The World Bowl Discussion Thread (OOC)

[Equestrian States]

A slightly belated congrats to Fanboyists, and thanks to M7 for another interesting World Bowl.

Also, sorry that I wasn't able to RP, RL is a bit crazy for me right now thanks to school stuff.

[Free South Califas]

Congratulations to both fanboyists, and Micheal on a job well done.

The way I have been playing recently in the Playoffs, not sure which team I fit into, maybe the Atlanta Falcons of the past two years? Chargers pre 2011? Idk, as they say, 12 times a charm

Actually, not only does Free South Califas wholly contain San Diego in the RP universe, but our dawning regular-season success, out of nowhere, followed by a crash in the playoffs, is starting to look like the Chargers circa 2005.

That team has changed identity so many times in the last 22 years and it's about to change again, probably not for the better. Actually, we've (FSC) had a change of quarterback to boot...

Well, I was thinking the early 2000's New England Patriots. I hope to never be associated with the Cowgirls.

(BTW, Qaz, for stats purposes, I believe that brings me to total win #113...putting me squarely in the 100 Club. Aaaand I believe I'm just knocking on the door of top win percentages (I'm just below #5...actually, if ties count for half of a win, giving me 114.5/140...I'm at .818.)... Total World Bowl Record, by my calculations, is 113-3-24; 3.)

Thank ye, kindly. Now I just need one more to beat Dancougar...

Props and congratulations to Michael VII for running another excellent tournament!
Commiserations to Yeso and Qazox (and EQS, too).

Re: Stats since I can't edit anything on wikistates at the moment I can't update anything there. and the '90's Cowboys is more appropriate, 'cause I don't want to compare your run of success with my NFL team's success. Would you settle for '60's Packers?

"...No? How about the late 1990s Broncos? No? How about late 80s USC? No? How about a dozen boy scouts with pop guns?"

It's a reference to "Get Smart", an old spy comedy from before my time that used to be regularly re-run on cable (television).

[The Fanboyists]

Congratulations to both fanboyists, and Micheal on a job well done.

The way I have been playing recently in the Playoffs, not sure which team I fit into, maybe the Atlanta Falcons of the past two years? Chargers pre 2011? Idk, as they say, 12 times a charm

Actually, not only does Free South Califas wholly contain San Diego in the RP universe, but our dawning regular-season success, out of nowhere, followed by a crash in the playoffs, is starting to look like the Chargers circa 2005.

That team has changed identity so many times in the last 22 years and it's about to change again, probably not for the better. Actually, we've (FSC) had a change of quarterback to boot...

Re: Stats since I can't edit anything on wikistates at the moment I can't update anything there. and the '90's Cowboys is more appropriate, 'cause I don't want to compare your run of success with my NFL team's success. Would you settle for '60's Packers?

"...No? How about the late 1990s Broncos? No? How about late 80s USC? No? How about a dozen boy scouts with pop guns?"

It's a reference to "Get Smart", an old spy comedy from before my time that used to be regularly re-run on cable (television).

Late 90's Broncos I can do. I hope to never be compared to USC, either. There's another program I can't stand. Actually, all goes well, on 1/7/2013, a Regulars-Crimson Tide comparison might be the most appropriate. Which would be fitting, because for a long time, I sort of modeled the type of players the Regulars had on 2010 Alabama...

So, current cycle line-up, we're looking at starting sign-ups and the process of finding a host for the next World Bowl in...what, early March? Late February? Does that sound about right?

[Qazox]

next sign-ups should be just after the Super Bowl at the earliest.

[The Royal Kingdom of Quebec]

next sign-ups should be just after the Super Bowl at the earliest.

Gotta agree.

[The Fanboyists]

Okay. Late February it is.

On a side note, and there is no pressure to actually do this, would people be interested in officially establishing the IC time elapse between World Bowls? At the moment, that is a matter of player discretion; I know several people RP the World Bowl as having the same frequency of the real-life World Cup, and some people have other sliding time scales (I know at least one person has used a two-year lapse), and I know that I personally treat the World Bowl as an annual occurrence.

Naturally, we can leave this state of affairs as is; I don't personally gain anything from establishing a concrete time-lapse, but I thought it might be good to at least float the idea, see if there's any interest in doing that.

[Qazox]

Okay. Late February it is.

On a side note, and there is no pressure to actually do this, would people be interested in officially establishing the IC time elapse between World Bowls? At the moment, that is a matter of player discretion; I know several people RP the World Bowl as having the same frequency of the real-life World Cup, and some people have other sliding time scales (I know at least one person has used a two-year lapse), and I know that I personally treat the World Bowl as an annual occurrence.

Naturally, we can leave this state of affairs as is; I don't personally gain anything from establishing a concrete time-lapse, but I thought it might be good to at least float the idea, see if there's any interest in doing that.

I use a 2-year lapse. We shouldn't offically establish a IC time-frame. Just like some people in the NSWC use 4-year, 2-year, 1-year, Real Time for determining it, it should be up to each nation how frequently the World Bowl occurs in their nation. (I do 2-year, 'cause then I can get at least 4-6 WB's from my roster before turning it over... )

[Maklohi Vai]

Okay. Late February it is.

On a side note, and there is no pressure to actually do this, would people be interested in officially establishing the IC time elapse between World Bowls? At the moment, that is a matter of player discretion; I know several people RP the World Bowl as having the same frequency of the real-life World Cup, and some people have other sliding time scales (I know at least one person has used a two-year lapse), and I know that I personally treat the World Bowl as an annual occurrence.

Naturally, we can leave this state of affairs as is; I don't personally gain anything from establishing a concrete time-lapse, but I thought it might be good to at least float the idea, see if there's any interest in doing that.

I think it's best to leave it up to individual discretion. It allows people more RP room, which is always an important consideration. Not having as many restrictions also encourages newcomers, which is a good thing.

[The Royal Kingdom of Quebec]

Okay. Late February it is.

On a side note, and there is no pressure to actually do this, would people be interested in officially establishing the IC time elapse between World Bowls? At the moment, that is a matter of player discretion; I know several people RP the World Bowl as having the same frequency of the real-life World Cup, and some people have other sliding time scales (I know at least one person has used a two-year lapse), and I know that I personally treat the World Bowl as an annual occurrence.

Naturally, we can leave this state of affairs as is; I don't personally gain anything from establishing a concrete time-lapse, but I thought it might be good to at least float the idea, see if there's any interest in doing that.

I typically use 4-year time lapses for WCoH and WB, but since the opinions will vary a lot, I don't support having a concrete time-lapse.

[Karditan]

It's probably better to leave fluid time intact.

[Darmen]

It's probably better to leave fluid time intact.

Seconded. I've always RP'd with 1 RL day = 1 IC day. In fact my domestic gridiron league goes along with that. In fact, it's my only league that doesn't conform with the deadlines set by their respective international competition deadlines. I've been thinking of changing this, but I think it takes away from the IC tradition of 1 game a week, much different than my baseball league, where triple headers (and sometimes quadrupleheaders) are the norm, and even from my assoc. football league, where secret government technology allows the teams to play multiple matches in a single day, in order to get the season done by the deadline.

Fluid Time and Creativity my friends.

[Vettrera]

I use 2 yr.

[Sucrati]

Hmm... I haven't played this in a while, thought I'm glad it's relatively active

[Free South Califas]

I say we stick with fluid time, but it's an interesting idea nonetheless.

It's probably better to leave fluid time intact.

Seconded. I've always RP'd with 1 RL day = 1 IC day. In fact my domestic gridiron league goes along with that. In fact, it's my only league that doesn't conform with the deadlines set by their respective international competition deadlines.

If you haven't already, might I ask you to weigh in over at the domestic gridiron discussion thread about what tournament timeline would work for you? I'd hate to disadvantage you because of something like that, and it might kill the point a bit if you miss half the editions, but YMMV. I know I fumbled a bit by scheduling IGCL 2 and 3 so close.

Anyway, sorry for the sudden turn off-topic, all. We now return you to your regularly scheduled thread.

[The Fanboyists]

Okay; thanks for the input. The consensus would seem to be leaving the fluid time scale intact.

I just thought it would be good to discuss it. Thanks for everyone's help resolving the issue!

[New West Guiana]

I don't really remember if finally some one has taken charge of the updating of the rankings(or not) but here's the formula (for the 100th time). So there wont be a wild goose chase trying to find it.

TBI Foreign Service wrote:
There's no problem here. Unlike the WCC-cycle events and the World Baseball Classic, the revised World Bowl formula doesn't care about how many games everyone else played; it uses straight winning percentage, multiplied by 10 for non-playoff teams and 15 for teams that advanced. (And yes, I treat ties as 1/2 win and 1/2 loss, just as the NFL did back in the day.)
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The Babbage Islands wrote:
After giving the situation some more thought, I put forward the following modest proposal. It keeps ratings within the bounds of a familiar scale, remedies the perception of injustice with the not infrequent situation ASMV described (I outpointed Tocrowkia in the WB where I lost to them in the final), and preserves the ease of computation that is the hallmark of Arroza's design.

Proposal for revised World Bowl rankings

The champion of the World Bowl receives 15 ranking points.
Other teams that attain the knockout stage of the World Bowl receive (Winning Percentage) x 15 ranking points.
Teams that played in the World Bowl preliminary stage but failed to reach the knockouts receive (Winning Percentage) x 10 ranking points.
Participants in the Baptism of Iron receive 1/10 of the ranking points that would be earned for a corresponding World Bowl performance. These Baptism of Iron ranking points are used for an initial rank in the associated World Bowl. They are also included with the ranking points earned in that World Bowl in future calculations as outlined below.
A team's full World Bowl ranking is then equal to the sum of:
a. Ranking points earned in the last World Bowl.
b. One-half of ranking points earned in the next-to-last World Bowl.
c. One-quarter of ranking points earned in the second-from-last World Bowl.

Also with WB 20 comes the election of a new WB President, but that isn't the point here (big deal still, not like anyone didn't know). However though concerning [F] any World Bowl Committee member which is some one who's posted a roaster for the last two WBs. So my amendment to the World Bowl Constitution is around concerning the official bearer of up dating the rankings. It derives heavily from the WC Constitution as it is one of the most organized Constitutions of its kind in NS Sports then again there are as I know of (which is minimum) only two.

Rankings
[1]
1) Every World Bowl shall use the World Bowl Rankings
2) The formula for the rankings must be public.
3) The updated rankings shall be displayed publicly in a organized fashion.
[1.1[]
Updating the Rankings

1) The rankings must be updated no more than two weeks after the latest World Bowl and no more than one week after the latest Baptism of Iron

I would post more but i'm tried as it is.

e) The World Bowl Committee will have a President that will be the spokesperson for the competition during their tenure, which will last three World Bowl Cycles. Once the World Bowl Committee is officially formed, nominations for the President can be made on this thread by WBC members. Any person receiving two nominations will be put in a vote. The winner of the vote is elected President, and the second place finisher shall serve as the vice-president. Only WBC members may vote.
f) Amendments to this document need to be requested by three WBC members within a span of two weeks. If so, it will go to a vote and must be passed by a 2/3rds majority.

And by the way while searching around the thread I came upon this which I don't think was ever put up to a vote.

EDIT: Added clarification that to Rules Clause regarding default overtime rules.

Revised:

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[The Fanboyists]

Did I ever actually do the revisions that weren't voted on? Or did you snip them for space?

On a side note, I would like to get the ball rolling on nominations for President. We're not at the stage of anything formal just yet, but I'd like people to start thinking about nominations.

[New West Guiana]

Did I ever actually do the revisions that weren't voted on? Or did you snip them for space?

No, you did them back in April (2012) I couldn't find if they were ever voted on so I assume they never were. I did also find a more in depth revision for the BoI that was approved and it was passed.

Be it resolved by the World Bowl Committee that:

1. The words "The Baptism of Iron Tournament shall be operated" are to be stricken from Article I of the Baptism of Iron Amendment to the World Bowl Constitution and replaced with "At the discretion of the World Bowl President, and with the concurrence of the duly selected World Bowl host once such is named, a Baptism of Iron Tournament may be operated"
2. Article II of the Baptism of Iron Amendment to the World Bowl Constitution is to be renumbered Article VI
3. Article III of the Baptism of Iron Amendment to the World Bowl Constitution is to be renumbered Article VII
4. The following text is to be added to the Baptism of Iron Amendment to the World Bowl Constitution and is to be inserted immediately after Article I of the Baptism of Iron Amendment to the World Bowl Constitution:
   
   • Article II: The World Bowl President shall, when he or she opens host bidding for the World Bowl, announce his or her determination of whether or not a Baptism of Iron may be held provided the other requirements listed in Article I above are met.
   • Article III: If the World Bowl President announces that a Baptism of Iron may be held, then host bidding and voting for the Baptism of Iron shall take place concurrently with host bidding and voting for the World Bowl.
   • Article IV: If the World Bowl President announces that a Baptism of Iron may be held, then the duly selected World Bowl host, once named, shall, upon acknowledging his or her selection as World Bowl Host, announce whether or not he or she consents to having a Baptism of Iron tournament should all other requirements listed in Article I above be met.
   • Article V: If there are no active host bids for the Baptism of Iron on the date initially set by the World Bowl President as the end of Baptism of Iron host bidding, or if all active host bids withdraw during host voting or the duly selected Baptism of Iron host withdraws after voting, a Baptism of Iron tournament shall not be held.
5. This resolution shall not go into effect until after an election for World Bowl President and Vice-President shall have intervened, unless both the World Bowl President and World Bowl Vice-President serving at the time of this resolution's adoption individually and expressly agree to the modifications to the World Bowl President's duties introduced by this resolution.

Any one think this thread should be used more often?

[The Fanboyists]

*looks sheepish*

Yeah, it probably should be...

[New West Guiana]

On a side note, I would like to get the ball rolling on nominations for President. We're not at the stage of anything formal just yet, but I'd like people to start thinking about nominations.

Ironically there were nominations back in October, but I don't think we ever voted, you were nominated by one person.

nip

[The Fanboyists]

Ladies and Gentlemen! Sign-ups for the Twentieth World Bowl have opened!

And also on that note, since we seemed to have let it languish once again, re-opening nominations for World Bowl President, seeing as my term expires after this tournament.

[The Fanboyists]

On the subject of nominations: I nominate Yesopalitha.

[Qazox]

Qazox nominates Michael VII

[World Bowl]

Sign-ups have been moved to a new thread due to maintenance reasons.

viewtopic.php?f=7&t=226926

Sorry for any inconvenience.

~Fanboy

[Free South Califas]

I hereby OOCly report that, ICly, the Gridiron Assembly has voted to nominate Michael VII if a second nomination is meaningful. Otherwise, they will obviously have to reconvene, and we all know how FSC meetings can get