The World Bowl Discussion Thread (OOC)

[Cassadaigua]

In my final act as World Bowl Committee President, I hereby announce the voting results for my successor:

The Babbage Islands: 5 votes
The Fanboyists: 2 votes
Re-open nomination process: 1 vote

So there you have it, TBI is the new president and The Fanboyists (Allamunnic States) shall be the VP.

Don't mess it up, guys.

[The Babbage Islands]

In my final act as World Bowl Committee President, I hereby announce the voting results for my successor:

The Babbage Islands: 5 votes
The Fanboyists: 2 votes
Re-open nomination process: 1 vote

So there you have it, TBI is the new president and The Fanboyists (Allamunnic States) shall be the VP.

Don't mess it up, guys.

I'll try not to, Cass. Thank you for your service.

My only question for everyone is when we might like to see the next World Bowl take place. I'm open to suggestions.

[Civil Citizenry]

Congrats to TBI and The Fanboyists!

If I had to make a suggestion, I'd say signups open in two weeks, and the World Bowl begins the first or second week of April.

[Buffalostan]

If I had to make a suggestion, I'd say signups open in two weeks, and the World Bowl begins the first or second week of April.

I hope you're joking.

My vote'd be two months.

[Newmanistan]

Keep in mind that a World Baseball Classic is imminent. Very, very, imminent. I would suggest the next World Bowl is set up to begin after the next Classic concludes, or is at least in the latter stages.

[Bluth Corporation]

I agree that two weeks is far too soon.

That said, over the last couple of years we've been averaging four tournaments a year, or roughly one every three months. In light of this, it's worth noting that registration for WBXIII began on December 21.

Of course, our perception is distorted because the last World Bowl was considerably longer than any we've had before.

Might it be time to consider creating a regular timetable for these? The every-three-months rotation seems to be quite workable.

Perhaps we shoot for something along the lines of:

• April 1: Open registration, call for host bids
• April 15: Host bidding closed
• April 22: Host voting concludes, registration concludes
• April 29: BoI begins (if it is being held)
• May 13: World Bowl begins

If past tournaments are a guide (WBXIII was an anomaly), then the World Bowl should be done by the end of May, possibly early June depending on off days. That'd still give the rest of June off, and then the whole thing begins again on July 1?

[German Zerabithea]

I agree that two weeks is far too soon.

That said, over the last couple of years we've been averaging four tournaments a year, or roughly one every three months. In light of this, it's worth noting that registration for WBXIII began on December 21.

Of course, our perception is distorted because the last World Bowl was considerably longer than any we've had before.

Might it be time to consider creating a regular timetable for these? The every-three-months rotation seems to be quite workable.

Perhaps we shoot for something along the lines of:

• April 1: Open registration, call for host bids
• April 15: Host bidding closed
• April 22: Host voting concludes, registration concludes
• April 29: BoI begins (if it is being held)
• May 13: World Bowl begins

If past tournaments are a guide (WBXIII was an anomaly), then the World Bowl should be done by the end of May, possibly early June depending on off days. That'd still give the rest of June off, and then the whole thing begins again on July 1?

That would actually work for me,since it would mean that we would not be doing anything in august, and I will be gone late July- early August.

[Colmark]

I agree that two weeks is far too soon.

That said, over the last couple of years we've been averaging four tournaments a year, or roughly one every three months. In light of this, it's worth noting that registration for WBXIII began on December 21.

Of course, our perception is distorted because the last World Bowl was considerably longer than any we've had before.

Might it be time to consider creating a regular timetable for these? The every-three-months rotation seems to be quite workable.

Perhaps we shoot for something along the lines of:

• April 1: Open registration, call for host bids
• April 15: Host bidding closed
• April 22: Host voting concludes, registration concludes
• April 29: BoI begins (if it is being held)
• May 13: World Bowl begins

If past tournaments are a guide (WBXIII was an anomaly), then the World Bowl should be done by the end of May, possibly early June depending on off days. That'd still give the rest of June off, and then the whole thing begins again on July 1?

Certainly seems like a good idea to me

[The Fanboyists]

In my final act as World Bowl Committee President, I hereby announce the voting results for my successor:

The Babbage Islands: 5 votes
The Fanboyists: 2 votes
Re-open nomination process: 1 vote

So there you have it, TBI is the new president and The Fanboyists (Allamunnic States) shall be the VP.

Don't mess it up, guys.

I'll try not to, Cass. Thank you for your service.

My only question for everyone is when we might like to see the next World Bowl take place. I'm open to suggestions.

Thanks Cass. I don't think it's possible for the VP to screw things up too badly, though, so the pressure's off me! ;D

Don't worry, TBI, I got your back.

My two cents on the next one is our usual rotation (at least such as I understand it); about six to eight weeks, perhaps starting the sign-ups in April, and using the remaining two weeks there for sign-ups and hosting bids, and then the World Bowl starting at whatever time is determined from the winning host bid.

[Voltronica]

I agree that two weeks is far too soon.

That said, over the last couple of years we've been averaging four tournaments a year, or roughly one every three months. In light of this, it's worth noting that registration for WBXIII began on December 21.

Of course, our perception is distorted because the last World Bowl was considerably longer than any we've had before.

Might it be time to consider creating a regular timetable for these? The every-three-months rotation seems to be quite workable.

Perhaps we shoot for something along the lines of:

• April 1: Open registration, call for host bids
• April 15: Host bidding closed
• April 22: Host voting concludes, registration concludes
• April 29: BoI begins (if it is being held)
• May 13: World Bowl begins

If past tournaments are a guide (WBXIII was an anomaly), then the World Bowl should be done by the end of May, possibly early June depending on off days. That'd still give the rest of June off, and then the whole thing begins again on July 1?

[The Babbage Islands]

I think the idea of opening signups at the start of each RL quarter has a lot of merit. It conforms to our general rhythm of about four World Bowls per RL year and does not overcrowd the calendar. As for other events -- this schedule will keep us from stepping on the imminent World Baseball Classic. In the future the world can look out for us. (Or not.)

For my presidency I will open signups on 1 April (WB XIV), 1 July (WB XV), and 1 October (WB XVI), with bids due by the 15th of those months and a goal of starting the WB or associated BoI in early May, August, and November. We'll see how things go after those events end and a new president is elected.

[Bluth Corporation]

Something else that was brought up by Sarzonia that I agree needs to be addressed: the language regarding eligibility for and removal from the World Bowl Council is rather ambiguous. Specifically, whether membership eligibility is attached to the particular nation/account or to the individual human being behind the account.

[Civil Citizenry]

As you may or may not know, I have submitted a bid to host World Bowl XIV. I have edited my bid to reflect a slight change in format. The original and new copies of the changed section can be found below for all who wish to be aware.

Alright, this guy deserves a look. What would be the format?
For World Bowl XIII, Bluth Corporation introduced an original format. I would like to build off that a little bit.

Let us assume that 48 nations sign up to participate, as there were for the last edition (though any multiple of four will work fine). Teams will be split into four divisions of twelve teams each. Every team will play all the other teams in its group once, for a total of eleven games. Then each team will play three non-divisional games. These games will be determined based on division standing: #1 in Group A will play #1 in Groups B, C, and D; and so forth. That will give each team a grand total of fourteen games. The top four teams in each division will qualify for the playoff bracket. However, the order of these four teams will be determined by a pair of games - one per team - to take place after all fourteen games. For each division, #1 will play #2 and #3 will play #4; the results of these games will settle the seeds of the top four teams.

Then comes the playoffs, which will be a 16-team double-elimination bracket. The #1 team in Group A will play #4 in Group B; #2 in Group A will play #3 in Group B; and so forth, including the same for Groups C and D. A regular double-elimination playoff system will take place from there, with the victors of the winner's and loser's brackets facing off in the final (which could be one game or two). I have drafted a sample bracket for those who would like a visual representation of the playoffs.

Alright, this guy deserves a look. What would be the format?
Let us assume that 48 nations sign up to participate, as there were for the last edition (though any multiple of four will work fine). Teams will be split into four divisions of twelve teams each. Every team will play all the other teams in its group once, for a total of eleven games. Then the top six teams will take part in a straightforward, single-elimination bracket; this will allow bubble teams the opportunity to redeem themselves and qualify for the playoffs. The top four teams by record in each group (with tiebreakers being H2H record, H2H point differential, and H2H points scored) will make the playoffs.

Then comes the playoffs, which will be a 16-team double-elimination bracket. The #1 team in Group A will play #4 in Group B; #2 in Group A will play #3 in Group B; and so forth, including the same for Groups C and D. A regular double-elimination playoff system will take place from there, with the victors of the winner's and loser's brackets facing off in the final (which could be one game or two). I have drafted a sample bracket for those who would like a visual representation of the playoffs.

[Qazox]

Civil Citizenry. Just my opinion, If you get rid of the double-elimination playoffs, then it would be a better bid.

While World Bowl XIII's format was a different change of pace, it's not something I'd personally like to see again so soon. Maybe every 5 or 6 World bowls, but not for back-to-back ones.

I have no other problems regarding your bid.

[Sarzonia]

I think that F1 didn't understand how the LB is going to work. the ASMV-Sarz winner faces me, while the Cass-F1 winner faces BC. The winners of those 2 matches will then face off with the winner of that one to face you for the right to play Delaclava.

I just caught this.

Qazox, please do NOT call me Sarz. If you must, please call me Sarzonia.

[Qazox]

I think that F1 didn't understand how the LB is going to work. the ASMV-Sarz winner faces me, while the Cass-F1 winner faces BC. The winners of those 2 matches will then face off with the winner of that one to face you for the right to play Delaclava.

I just caught this.

Qazox, please do NOT call me Sarz. If you must, please call me Sarzonia.

Sorry Sarzonia. It will not happen again.

[The Babbage Islands]

Repeated from the signups thread for convenience.

Host bids are closed. Members of the World Bowl Committee may TG their votes to my puppet, TBI Foreign Service, between now and this time on Tuesday, April 19, a period of 72 hours. You have two votes to cast. Your choices are:

For World Bowl host:

1. Sarzonia
2. Mytannion
3. Reopen bidding process

For Baptism of Iron host:

1. Qazox
2. Reopen bidding process

[Teinohikira]

Kogvuron, go here for a fake name generator.

[Newmanistan]

Qazox, the upcoming Baptism of Iron is Baptism of Iron 8, not Baptism of Iron 14.

[Qazox]

Qazox, the upcoming Baptism of Iron is Baptism of Iron 8, not Baptism of Iron 14.

Will change it ASAP. (I thought we were still naming them after the World Bowl Number.... as was the case for the first 6...)

[Newmanistan]

Qazox, the upcoming Baptism of Iron is Baptism of Iron 8, not Baptism of Iron 14.

Will change it ASAP. (I thought we were still naming them after the World Bowl Number.... as was the case for the first 6...)

That was never the case. You just liked to do that on your own.

[Qazox]

Will change it ASAP. (I thought we were still naming them after the World Bowl Number.... as was the case for the first 6...)

That was never the case. You just liked to do that on your own.

The first one was Baptism of Iron V, the 2nd was BoI VII... I dunno I guess one of Dancougar's interns is still floating around...

[Newmanistan]

Baptism of Iron 2
Baptism of Iron 3
Baptism of Iron 4
Baptism of Iron 5
Baptism of Iron 6
Baptism of Iron 7

And I ran Baptism of Fire 1 on jolt, calling it as such. It's always been the conventional format we've used.

[Qazox]

Baptism of Iron 2
Baptism of Iron 3
Baptism of Iron 4
Baptism of Iron 5
Baptism of Iron 6
Baptism of Iron 7

And I ran Baptism of Fire 1 on jolt, calling it as such. It's always been the conventional format we've used.

I stand corrected, sir.

[Bluth Corporation]

I think it makes more sense to number them with their associated World Bowl. It's more useful to be able to think, "Oh, Baptism of Iron XIV, that means it went with World Bowl XIV" than "Oh, Baptism of Iron 8--I know that that means it was the eighth BoI, but that's mostly irrelevant--what really matters is what World Bowl it went with. Now I have to go and check."