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Postby The Fanboyists » Thu Feb 17, 2011 8:10 pm

I'm extremely confused, now.

From the bracket you posted in your host bid, Bluth, it appears that I will play the proper winner of the losers bracket, and the winner of that game will go on to play in the World Bowl.

F1 Insanity has just posted something contrary to this, stating that I will play simply for third place, or will simply be the third-place team.

I am not objecting if that is the case, but I am extremely confused as to which is correct, at the moment. Could you please clarify?
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Postby Bluth Corporation » Thu Feb 17, 2011 9:06 pm

You are correct.
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Postby Qazox » Thu Feb 17, 2011 9:06 pm

The Fanboyists wrote:I'm extremely confused, now.

From the bracket you posted in your host bid, Bluth, it appears that I will play the proper winner of the losers bracket, and the winner of that game will go on to play in the World Bowl.

F1 Insanity has just posted something contrary to this, stating that I will play simply for third place, or will simply be the third-place team.

I am not objecting if that is the case, but I am extremely confused as to which is correct, at the moment. Could you please clarify?


I think that F1 didn't understand how the LB is going to work. the ASMV-Sarz winner faces me, while the Cass-F1 winner faces BC. The winners of those 2 matches will then face off with the winner of that one to face you for the right to play Delaclava.
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Postby The Fanboyists » Thu Feb 17, 2011 10:29 pm

Qazox wrote:
The Fanboyists wrote:I'm extremely confused, now.

From the bracket you posted in your host bid, Bluth, it appears that I will play the proper winner of the losers bracket, and the winner of that game will go on to play in the World Bowl.

F1 Insanity has just posted something contrary to this, stating that I will play simply for third place, or will simply be the third-place team.

I am not objecting if that is the case, but I am extremely confused as to which is correct, at the moment. Could you please clarify?


I think that F1 didn't understand how the LB is going to work. the ASMV-Sarz winner faces me, while the Cass-F1 winner faces BC. The winners of those 2 matches will then face off with the winner of that one to face you for the right to play Delaclava.

I get it, but that seems needlessly complicated. Now I have a headache. Good night, everyone. (PS, Qaz, if you don't mind, let me knock off Plutoni. :p )
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Postby Voltronica » Thu Feb 17, 2011 10:39 pm

The Fanboyists wrote:
Qazox wrote:
I think that F1 didn't understand how the LB is going to work. the ASMV-Sarz winner faces me, while the Cass-F1 winner faces BC. The winners of those 2 matches will then face off with the winner of that one to face you for the right to play Delaclava.

I get it, but that seems needlessly complicated. Now I have a headache. Good night, everyone. (PS, Qaz, if you don't mind, let me knock off Plutoni. :p )

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Postby The Fanboyists » Thu Feb 17, 2011 10:40 pm

Voltronica wrote:
The Fanboyists wrote:I get it, but that seems needlessly complicated. Now I have a headache. Good night, everyone. (PS, Qaz, if you don't mind, let me knock off Plutoni. :p )

i resent killing the planet

You should be angrier about my attempts to kill the element than the former planet.
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Postby Voltronica » Thu Feb 17, 2011 10:41 pm

The Fanboyists wrote:
Voltronica wrote:i resent killing the planet

You should be angrier about my attempts to kill the element than the former planet.

mad at that too
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Postby Whittoria » Thu Feb 17, 2011 10:45 pm

F1-Insanity wrote:Whittoria, I apologize for the trolling behaviour of F1-Insanity sports press :)

It's okay, I'm kinda used to it by now. RP is RP. I'm beginning to imagine your nation as some kind of stalinist dictatorship New York/Alaska run by the New York Jets front office and a really old guy in white robes who gets pissy at just about everything. How close am I?

Speaking of RP, can I do one where a livid Coach Whitt (realizing Massey might die before he has a chance to beat him) makes his way into the hospital they're keeping Massey at and grabs and shakes him while shouting things like "Breathe dammit!" and "Don't you die on me!" ?
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Postby F1-Insanity » Fri Feb 18, 2011 11:18 am

Go right ahead...

and though the government doesn't see it that way, from the outside and the way the system is set up F1-Insanity is a one party state and effectively an one-man dictatorship which is Stalinist in everything except ideology. Dissenters tend to vanish at night :)

Though I wish coach Whitt good luck in trying to get into the Mulcahey Hospital... ;)
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Postby Bluth Corporation » Fri Feb 18, 2011 3:00 pm

Should I win tonight, would anyone be available to scorinate the game I will be playing tomorrow night?
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Postby Cassadaigua » Fri Feb 18, 2011 8:29 pm

Nevermind on the thought that I deleted that a couple may have read.

There is some business to take care of though as some of you know my World Bowl Committee President term is up at the end at this World Bowl. I am going to open up nominations now and have them run until the morning of the 24th. Please send these nominations to my puppet Cheergirls.

I am not seeking re-election, so if you were thinking of nominating me please do not.
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Postby Buffalostan » Sun Feb 20, 2011 9:36 am

Scorination "tonight" (from an American perspective) will again be a bit later than it would be if Bluth were doing it. Hopefully about 1000 UTC, or whatever time I get the first free minute at work. I guess this only applies to The Fanboyists, however.

In other news, I'm not sure whether I have World Bowl Committee status. I participated (with Free Austin) in VIII and IX, thus gaining Committee status, and then in X. I didn't participate in XI, but did (with Buffalostan) in XII and XIII. So Free Austin has by now lost Committee status and Buffalostan won't earn it until XIV, but taking me the player as controller of both accounts (as per Barnettsville/Lycrabon, for example) my status didn't lapse. Can anyone offer a ruling?

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Postby Sarzonia » Sun Feb 20, 2011 9:46 am

Hmm...

If I were to venture a guess, I'd have to guess that you're not on the WB committee based on the fact that you the player lost your status after not participating in World Bowl XI.
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Postby Buffalostan » Sun Feb 20, 2011 9:49 am

Why would I lose my status for failing to participate in XI, when the Constitution specifies that "[n]ations, excluding prior hosts, will be removed from the World Bowl Committee after failure to participate (posting a roster at minimum) in two consecutive World Bowls"?

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Postby Sarzonia » Sun Feb 20, 2011 12:48 pm

Here's where the wording gets murky.

If we take the wording to mean the player behind the nation must participate, then Free Austin/Buffalostan remains in place. However, if the wording means the same nation, then Free Austin/Buffalostan is NOT on the committee.

Here is another reason why I argue that our language must be precise in these rule sets.
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Postby Voltronica » Sun Feb 20, 2011 12:53 pm

Sarzonia wrote:Here's where the wording gets murky.

If we take the wording to mean the player behind the nation must participate, then Free Austin/Buffalostan remains in place. However, if the wording means the same nation, then Free Austin/Buffalostan is NOT on the committee.

Here is another reason why I argue that our language must be precise in these rule sets.

agreeing with the proposal of precise legality that would be a whole nuther page of words...for each bylaw...well maybe not that precise. :blush:
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Postby Sarzonia » Sun Feb 20, 2011 1:00 pm

Sometimes, rules get wordy. That's just the way it goes.

Right now, we have a situation where the rules aren't precise enough and it's leading to a question that may have an effect on future votes BY the World Bowl Committee.

I'll be honest. I'm disinclined to say Buffalostan/Free Austin keeps the WBC spot because I just now learned that the two nations are run by the same player. However, that is anything but a formal proposal or statement of support or anything of the sort. I'd be willing to go along with a consensus vote on the part of the Committee as to Buffalostan's status.
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Postby Bluth Corporation » Sun Feb 20, 2011 1:17 pm

It seems like it's no longer a relevant question, as after this tournament, Buffalostan will have participated in two consecutive World Bowls as Buffalostan anyway.

Unless either (a) the relevant clauses in the Constitution post linked in the first post of this thread have been superseded by a later decision that I have forgotten about and which has not been incorporated into said post, or (b) I'm misreading it.
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Postby Sarzonia » Sun Feb 20, 2011 1:20 pm

In that case, it's more of a matter of tightening the language for the future than a matter needing our attention now. Fair dos.
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Postby Bluth Corporation » Sun Feb 20, 2011 1:30 pm

Oh, absolutely.

My suggestion is, allow it in cases where it can be verified (through both accounts confirming that they are controlled by the same person; e.g. A posts "I am controlled by B" and B posts "I am controlled by A"). Since non-deleted accounts can be resurrected without moderator intervention, it shouldn't be too much trouble (short of forgetting the password) to resurrect the old account to make one last post.
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Postby Buffalostan » Sun Feb 20, 2011 1:34 pm

Sarzonia wrote:Here's where the wording gets murky.

If we take the wording to mean the player behind the nation must participate, then Free Austin/Buffalostan remains in place. However, if the wording means the same nation, then Free Austin/Buffalostan is NOT on the committee.
I don't see how that relates to your initial contention that I would have lost my status through failure to participate in a single World Bowl tournament.

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Postby Bluth Corporation » Sun Feb 20, 2011 1:39 pm

I suspect he just overlooked you saying that you had participated in WBX. Which, I missed too until I went back and re-read your post just now.
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Postby Cassadaigua » Mon Feb 21, 2011 6:12 am

Cassadaigua wrote:There is some business to take care of though as some of you know my World Bowl Committee President term is up at the end at this World Bowl. I am going to open up nominations now and have them run until the morning of the 24th. Please send these nominations to my puppet Cheergirls.

I am not seeking re-election, so if you were thinking of nominating me please do not.


Please do not forget to nominate someone! So far only three nominations have been placed, and all three are for different people!
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Postby Voltronica » Mon Feb 21, 2011 12:11 pm

Cassadaigua wrote:
Cassadaigua wrote:There is some business to take care of though as some of you know my World Bowl Committee President term is up at the end at this World Bowl. I am going to open up nominations now and have them run until the morning of the 24th. Please send these nominations to my puppet Cheergirls.

I am not seeking re-election, so if you were thinking of nominating me please do not.


Please do not forget to nominate someone! So far only three nominations have been placed, and all three are for different people!

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Postby Whittoria » Mon Feb 21, 2011 12:52 pm

Has anyone else received nominations for the All Star Game that don't make sense? So far out of all the starters on my team people have nominated a back-up who didn't really see the field, my Defensive Ends coach as a player, and someone who isn't even on my roster. I know this seems kinda bad seeing as how I haven't finished my all star vote, but is anyone having a similar experience?


EDIT: at least one has been fixed
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