The World Bowl Discussion Thread (OOC)

[Football Officials]

These games must have been intense to watch and media fanfare...
woot were #2!...I'm not wholly sure if that's a good thing

The officials are CHEATERS! TOTAL FRAUDS!

(Points at F-1 Insanity)


LIAR! LIAARRRRRR!!!!!!!!

[F1-Insanity]

The officials are CHEATERS! TOTAL FRAUDS!

(Points at F-1 Insanity)


LIAR! LIAARRRRRR!!!!!!!!

Can we get an article in the World Bowl constitution that requires the names of participants to be spelled properly? I mean, how difficult is it to start with 'F1-' instead of 'F-1'? Or does our secret service have to send men with poisoned umbrella tips abroad?

[Voltronica]

(Points at F-1 Insanity)


LIAR! LIAARRRRRR!!!!!!!!

Can we get an article in the World Bowl constitution that requires the names of participants to be spelled properly? I mean, how difficult is it to start with 'F1-' instead of 'F-1'? Or does our secret service have to send men with poisoned umbrella tips abroad?

"Poisoned Tips" (btw did i ever do the F-1 thing other than now?)

[Whittoria]

(Points at F-1 Insanity)


LIAR! LIAARRRRRR!!!!!!!!

Can we get an article in the World Bowl constitution that requires the names of participants to be spelled properly? I mean, how difficult is it to start with 'F1-' instead of 'F-1'? Or does our secret service have to send men with poisoned umbrella tips abroad?

Well I'll be deadgummed, it IS F1-, not F-1.

You know it's funny because subconsciously every time I have to type your name I always remind myself to spell it right, because there was this one time at the world cup where I killed a man where the score posting spelled it wrong every week. So yeah, whoops.

I also think it's time NSG was introduced to Ron Llave. RP time!

[Qazox]

I couldn't find anything on Wikipedia that would work.

I found an eight-team dbl-elim bracket on wikipedia. I might be able to alter it to a 32-team bracket... I'll give it a shot later.

Should be as easy as extending both halves of the bracket four-fold (in theory) ... but because double-elim brackets are "unorthodox" we'll say, then it could be tricky.

Actually i'd need to expand it 3-fold (24 teams). I saw the template and while a bit unwieldy (editing-wise), I can probably use it. Thanks Osarius!

[Bluth Corporation]

Did anyone happen to save the old World Bowl (including the retroactively-named World Bowl 0) threads from the Jolt days? I have an idea for something, but I'd need the information they included.

[Qazox]

Did anyone happen to save the old World Bowl (including the retroactively-named World Bowl 0) threads from the Jolt days? I have an idea for something, but I'd need the information they included.

Not that I know of.

[Bluth Corporation]

And the Wayback Machine massively fails to disappoint me...

What I'm trying to do is some sort of "unofficial world championship," similar to a boxing or wrestling title, where defeating the current holder--in any game--causes the title to go to the challenger. Obviously, we have the individual-game playoff results from the Wikistates pages for these earlier competitions. However, group-stage games would be relevant here as well, and while I might be (in some instances, at least) able to work out who lost to whom from the whole of the group-stage records, what I would not get from that is the order in which those games were played, which is of course relevant for a matter such as this.

[Voltronica]

And the Wayback Machine massively fails to disappoint me...

What I'm trying to do is some sort of "unofficial world championship," similar to a boxing or wrestling title, where defeating the current holder--in any game--causes the title to go to the challenger. Obviously, we have the individual-game playoff results from the Wikistates pages for these earlier competitions. However, group-stage games would be relevant here as well, and while I might be (in some instances, at least) able to work out who lost to whom from the whole of the group-stage records, what I would not get from that is the order in which those games were played, which is of course relevant for a matter such as this.

hey wasn't it F1 that won the last WB?

[Bluth Corporation]

Yes, but I'm wanting to start from the very beginning for this. The winner of the most recent World Bowl might be, perhaps often will be, but is not necessarily the current holder of the unofficial world championship under this system.

[Delaclava]

Yes, but I'm wanting to start from the very beginning for this. The winner of the most recent World Bowl might be, perhaps often will be, but is not necessarily the current holder of the unofficial world championship under this system.

Wouldn't you only need to know that it was Taeshan that won World Bowl 0? You can't really start this succession until you have an official world champion...

[Bluth Corporation]

Yes, but I'm wanting to start from the very beginning for this. The winner of the most recent World Bowl might be, perhaps often will be, but is not necessarily the current holder of the unofficial world championship under this system.

Wouldn't you only need to know that it was Taeshan that won World Bowl 0? You can't really start this succession until you have an official world champion...

For World Bowl 0, yes; though of course it'd be nice to have archives of that thread too, just for its own sake.

[Qazox]

Wouldn't you only need to know that it was Taeshan that won World Bowl 0? You can't really start this succession until you have an official world champion...

For World Bowl 0, yes; though of course it'd be nice to have archives of that thread too, just for its own sake.

I Know that Aguazul had a bunch of old jolt files on google docs. There might be World Bowl threads located within.

[Voltronica]

For World Bowl 0, yes; though of course it'd be nice to have archives of that thread too, just for its own sake.

I Know that Aguazul had a bunch of old jolt files on google docs. There might be World Bowl threads located within.

I think you guys are looking to hard at this...

To me it seems natural for the "liquid" title to flow to the WB tourney winner. But on the Off chance of a team not making it to the playoffs wins that last week game against the previous champion...It would most likely rest in the hands of the next years winner.

If you look at it mathematically or philosophically its near impossible for it to be anywhere else.

[Sarzonia]

I've never seen the purpose for an unofficial world champion. I don't care for the idea in the WBC and I don't support the idea here.

Also, Buffalostan, I hope you don't mind my transferring my OOC wonder about your describing my team as "morbidly humourless" to IC.

[Qazox]

I Know that Aguazul had a bunch of old jolt files on google docs. There might be World Bowl threads located within.

I think you guys are looking to hard at this...

To me it seems natural for the "liquid" title to flow to the WB tourney winner. But on the Off chance of a team not making it to the playoffs wins that last week game against the previous champion...It would most likely rest in the hands of the next years winner.

If you look at it mathematically or philosophically its near impossible for it to be anywhere else.

I keep track of an UWC (unoffical World Champ) for the WBC. And so far there have been 3 occasions that the title DIDN'T go to the champions of the most recent WBC. The trend is towards the champions, but seeing as an UWC is just a way to see how such a title would have been flowing through the ranks. For instance, did Team X hold on to the UWC crown for 7 games and then lose it to n00btopia? Did the title get passed from n00btopia to N00bistan to n00bervile to nonrpingteam5 back to Team X? It's nothing serious, but an interesting way to see the random chances that do occur in a World Bowl. And it's a chance to see how many times I've held the UWC title!

[Bluth Corporation]

I've never seen the purpose for an unofficial world champion. I don't care for the idea in the WBC and I don't support the idea here.

It's called "unofficial" for a reason. Since it has no practical impact, the question of whether you "support" or "oppose" it is totally meaningless, since you're always free to ignore it.

[Bluth Corporation]

QUESTION: Can we expect Father Mulcahey to accompany Radar to the front any time soon?

[Bluth Corporation]

I Know that Aguazul had a bunch of old jolt files on google docs. There might be World Bowl threads located within.

I think you guys are looking to hard at this...

To me it seems natural for the "liquid" title to flow to the WB tourney winner. But on the Off chance of a team not making it to the playoffs wins that last week game against the previous champion...It would most likely rest in the hands of the next years winner.

If you look at it mathematically or philosophically its near impossible for it to be anywhere else.

You're absolutely correct--except in the (probably unusual, but certainly possible) case of an unofficial World Champion losing its final non-elimination game to a team that has already been eliminated from the playoffs, between World Bowls the unofficial world champion will almost certainly be the current World Bowl Champion.

But that doesn't tell us about who might hold it while the World Bowl tournament is ongoing, or of results from non-tournament friendlies or auxiliary tournaments (Silver Bowl, Qazox's invitational from a while back, etc.).

[Voltronica]

I think you guys are looking to hard at this...

To me it seems natural for the "liquid" title to flow to the WB tourney winner. But on the Off chance of a team not making it to the playoffs wins that last week game against the previous champion...It would most likely rest in the hands of the next years winner.

If you look at it mathematically or philosophically its near impossible for it to be anywhere else.

You're absolutely correct--except in the (probably unusual, but certainly possible) case of an unofficial World Champion losing its final non-elimination game to a team that has already been eliminated from the playoffs, between World Bowls the unofficial world champion will almost certainly be the current World Bowl Champion.

But that doesn't tell us about who might hold it while the World Bowl tournament is ongoing, or of results from non-tournament friendlies or auxiliary tournaments (Silver Bowl, Qazox's invitational from a while back, etc.).

OMG!! what if the holder is a dead team...Then all of this is meaningless...don't even think about Nihilism here...

[Delaclava]

You're absolutely correct--except in the (probably unusual, but certainly possible) case of an unofficial World Champion losing its final non-elimination game to a team that has already been eliminated from the playoffs, between World Bowls the unofficial world champion will almost certainly be the current World Bowl Champion.

But that doesn't tell us about who might hold it while the World Bowl tournament is ongoing, or of results from non-tournament friendlies or auxiliary tournaments (Silver Bowl, Qazox's invitational from a while back, etc.).

OMG!! what if the holder is a dead team...Then all of this is meaningless...don't even think about Nihilism here...

In the WBC, when Kazzoria earned the Unofficial World Championship and then did not participate in WBC16, the UWC title went to the WBC16, Cassadaigua. I'd assume the same would happen here.

[Qazox]

For the WBC UWC, i don't count the Olympics or the Keisler Cup; but for the World Bowl version, it's up to whomever is insane enough to d it. (lucky for me, i did most of the WBC version's work before the Jolt purge)

[Newmanistan]

Bluth, in a proper double elimination tournament, I should not be facing Lycrabon (the team that sent me here) this soon again. Don't think it's been set up properly.

[Newmanistan]

I just made up the bracket and advanced the results as they have been posted to this point. There are no discrepancies in the winner's bracket and nothing appears until now.

But the proper matchups in the losers bracket right now should be:

Newmanistan-German Zerabithea
Rennidan-Willink
(These winners advance to play one another)


Andossa se Mitrin Vega-Buffalostan
Voltronica-North Chicnan
(These winners advance to play one another)

Dorian & Sonya-Sibirsky
Osarius-D Land and Isles
(These winners advance to play one another)

Colmark-Krytenia
Lycrabon-The Babbage Islands
(These winners advance to play one another)


Bracket Setup
You don't have to use it, of course, but this is how it should be, conventionally.


To clarify, my "protest" is all IC. If you don't wish to change anything that's fine, though we still won't take the field for the reasons in the RP thread. You can consider it a forfeit win for Lycrabon but we will not see it that way IC... it will give me a RP theme for the future, anyway (as we will, IC, consider WB13 unfinished if not). I don't want you to think I am "forcing" you to do change this.... I think I might have made that impression.

[Sibirsky]

Bluth, in a proper double elimination tournament, I should not be facing Lycrabon (the team that sent me here) this soon again. Don't think it's been set up properly.

Yeah, I'm playing North Chicanan twice in 3 games.