The World Bowl Discussion Thread (OOC)

[F1-Insanity]

I didn't know he was based on Rex Ryan; that changes EVERYTHING!

I picked Rex to base my head coach on because Rex is such an interesting guy. I'm actually a Giants fan myself.

[Bluth Corporation]

I didn't know he was based on Rex Ryan; that changes EVERYTHING!

I picked Rex to base my head coach on because Rex is such an interesting guy. I'm actually a Giants fan myself.

I find the KSK Rex Ryan to be much more interesting than the real Rex Ryan, myself

[Newmanistan]

Because unlike yourself apparently, people RP because they enjoy RP. Your lack of motivation to RP a game against a lowly team is a problem of your own, and something that, believe it or not, is not shared by frequent RPers.

We RP because we enjoy RP. I have no problem RP'ing a game, because there is a story that surrounds my team. If you read the RP's of other nations they do the same thing.... Cassadaigua, Sarzonia, Qazox, Secristan, Rennidan, QoD/Free Austin, The Fanboyists, F1-Insanity, TBI, Whittoria, Dancougar when he's not hosting, Tocrowkia.... these regular RPers have themes or stories with their RP. And there are others probably that I did not list. These nations do it in everything they participate in. The opponent's stature means nothing. RP allows for creativity; opponents don't matter.

As you like to say, you're on a boat. And there's only a couple, if anyone, on it; of people that RP just to get a bonus.

[F1-Insanity]

Here's my suggestion, for future World Bowl tournaments (since it's of course too late to implement it for this one):

Make only RPs for games against teams that have roleplayed themselves (by whatever definition, perhaps including active roleplay throughout the tournament) count towards cumulative RP bonus.

I do not agree with this bit. Whether or not the opponent "RPs" should, frankly speaking, be irrelevant. No RP = no RP bonus. I can use the games against the non-RP teams to build up characters/storylines etc... to use for those games with opponents that do RP. Once you get towards the knock out stages, there will be less and less non-RP teams.

[Dancougar]

... Dancougar when he's not hosting...

... Which is actually me being a lazy ass more than anything, to be honest. I should actually start my planned storyline for this thing after work today.

[F1-Insanity]

I didn't know he was based on Rex Ryan; that changes EVERYTHING!

I picked Rex to base my head coach on because Rex is such an interesting guy. I'm actually a Giants fan myself.

I find the KSK Rex Ryan to be much more interesting than the real Rex Ryan, myself

KSK Rex is hilarious

Rex: Washington, your nickname is Tiny, because you’re fucking small. Keller, your nickname is Pussymangler. Ferguson, your nickname is Da Brick. And I got a special nickname for our opponent this week: FAGGOTS! YOU’RE PLAYING THE NEW ENGLAND FAGGOTS!

Sanchez: What’s the game plan, Coach?

Rex: Well son, we’re gonna go six DB’s against these guys. We’re gonna sit back, force them to drive down the field. We’re gonna lay off the blitz, and we’re go with straight umbrella coverage.

Sanchez: Really?

Rex: Nah. I was just fuckin’ was ya. WE’RE GONNA FUCKING MUTILATE THOSE FUCKERS! KILLLLLLLLL!!!!!

(everyone cheers)

Rex: We’re blitzing every play! I’m bringing the house, boys. Actually, FUCK THE HOUSE. WE’RE BRINGING THE WHOLE GODDAMN BLOCK. You’re blitzing too, Dirty Chimichanga!

Sanchez: But I play offense.
Rex: WHO GIVES A JUMPING FUCK? I want EVERY GODDAMN PLAYER ON THIS SQUAD READY TO FUCKING KILL!

(hands out bayonets)

(straps Belichick dummy to tackling sled)

LET’S GO. FUCKING KILLLLLLLLLLL IT!

(everyone stabs it)

Good. That’s good fucking work, boys! Next order of business: Bounties! Any you fellas know this Adalius Thomas? $50 TO THE MAN WHO FUCKS HIS SISTER AND BRINGS ME A SNAPSHOT OF HER NAKED! Everyone who doesn’t is fined $1,000. You guys! I’m so fucking jazzed for this game. WE’RE GONNA RAPE ‘EM! AND THEN WE’RE GOIN’ TUBING!

Sanchez: Snow tubing or water tubing?

Rex: PUSSY TUBING! Next order of business: Brady’s knee. Now, that fucking dipshit was wearing a brace last night. Keller, I want you to sneak into Brady’s hotel room the night before the game and carefully remove the screws from that brace.

Keller: Uh, isn’t that illegal?

Rex: Goddamn right it is. THAT’S THE BEST PART! Tear that asshole’s leg in half and I’m taking all of you out for STEAKS AND BLOWJOBS!

(everyone cheers)

[Sarzonia]

Agreed with Newmanistan's comment above. If you had paid attention to the last World Cup, you would have noticed that I RP'd a couple of times after I was eliminated in the second round.

I didn't do it because I was hoping for more RP bonus. I knew I wouldn't get any since my team was no longer in it. I did it because I had a storyline I wanted to wrap up. I RP'd at least twice to bring that storyline to a close. And I did it purely because I enjoy creating storylines and developing characters and the like.

To me, your proposal is a poor solution for the wrong problem.

[The Babbage Islands]

Here's my suggestion, for future World Bowl tournaments (since it's of course too late to implement it for this one):

Make only RPs for games against teams that have roleplayed themselves (by whatever definition, perhaps including active roleplay throughout the tournament) count towards cumulative RP bonus. You can still RP against a team that doesn't RP and get a bonus for the next day, but that won't count towards your cumulative bonus. So, continuing with the example of this tournament, I could make RPs in my games against Arroza, which are actually competitive and fun to RP without being forced, thanks to the aforementioned dilemma, to figure out how I'm going to RP yet another 50-0 shutout against a team that's probably not even paying attention anymore anyway--which gets old fast.

And then, so that teams that come from groups with few (or no) other roleplayers aren't unfairly penalized, cumulative RP bonus resets for the playoff stage; and all playoff games count towards the new cumulative RP bonus.

No. For several reasons.

First, we should be encouraging RP, not discouraging it. Making a policy to discount some RPs but not others flies in the face of encouraging RP.

Second, the proposal is on its face inequitable. Two examples:

• Big Team opens against Little Team, and Little Team doesn't RP. Then Contender plays Little Team who puts in an RP. Contender now has a permanent advantage in that group for the duration whether Big Team RPed game one or not.
• Group A Big Team plays in a quiet group and RPs twice in ten games since they won't count anyway. Group B Big Team plays in an active group and RPs nine games out of ten. Do we nullify B's hard work to put A and B level for the knockouts? Or do we penalise A for acting rationally given system constraints?

Third, for a host this adds another layer of unnecessary complexity. It can be challenging enough to read all the RPs and score them fairly, without introducing another go-back-and-see-which-ones-don't-accumulate-because-of-the-opponent factor.

I have sympathy for your position, but this cure is worse than the disease.

[Free Austin]

Dancougar, going by the table, Qazox should be bolded as winner in Group A, not QPM.

[Qazox]

Dancougar, going by the table, Qazox should be bolded as winner in Group A, not QPM.

I agree.

[Toiletdonia]

Wahoo! 2 wins!

[Arroza]

Ract 21-10 Arroza

Well at least I won't have to worry about rping blowouts.

FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUuuuuuu

[Whittoria]

Hopefully Group D won't end up like the Big 12 in 2008, or that the top 3 teams all go 1-1 with each other.

Glad to see my Mayors back to their winning ways, and with domination too!

[Dancougar]

Dancougar, going by the table, Qazox should be bolded as winner in Group A, not QPM.

So they should. I don't know how I managed to read that as "23-20", and the excuse "it was 1 AM" doesn't quite fly given how often I'm online that late. So... interns.

[Toiletdonia]

I'm sorry I won't be able to RP for this world bowl I'm very busy. I will RP in the next one sorry.

[Free Austin]

edit: no point

[The Fanboyists]

Hopefully Group D won't end up like the Big 12 in 2008, or that the top 3 teams all go 1-1 with each other.

Glad to see my Mayors back to their winning ways, and with domination too!

Nothing wrong with that. It always makes way for the SEC of the World Bowl; Group I! After all, we've got Cass airing it out like the Gators and me running the ball like a good 'Bama boy does!

Who, in case you havn't realized, are who the team's based on, with Haanryk Stahlburg more or less being Mark Ingram and Maarkus Daalhulm being Greg McElroy. Gaarutt Fulvshundlur is Trent Richardson. Phillipa Demirici's is Leigh Tiffin, in case you couldn't tell. Miles Ryan is Rolando McClain.

And Theo Laansur is Mount Cody. And, well, Honorius Waalturs and Danny Rickenbacher are...well, the defensive ends. Mikel Dunn is Julio Jones, and Kiel Duskarr is Darius Hanks. Willy Theodore is Colin Peake. Eventually Markus Josephus will be like Mark Barron. Aandrik Ierunmungur is Kareem Jackson.

Then I broke off a bit; Eric Drake is Todd Heap. Of the Ravens, the 2010-2011 AFC Champions.

Ignoring all that, though, it's not possible; point differential is a tie-breaker before H2H record is in this WB. That's actually what we almost ended up with in my group last time, with Qazox losing getting me into the playoffs.

[Whittoria]

Hopefully Group D won't end up like the Big 12 in 2008, or that the top 3 teams all go 1-1 with each other.

Glad to see my Mayors back to their winning ways, and with domination too!

Nothing wrong with that. It always makes way for the SEC of the World Bowl; Group I! After all, we've got Cass airing it out like the Gators and me running the ball like a good 'Bama boy does!

Who, in case you havn't realized, are who the team's based on, with Haanryk Stahlburg more or less being Mark Ingram and Maarkus Daalhulm being Greg McElroy. Gaarutt Fulvshundlur is Trent Richardson. Phillipa Demirici's is Leigh Tiffin, in case you couldn't tell. Miles Ryan is Rolando McClain.

And Theo Laansur is Mount Cody. And, well, Honorius Waalturs and Danny Rickenbacher are...well, the defensive ends. Mikel Dunn is Julio Jones, and Kiel Duskarr is Darius Hanks. Willy Theodore is Colin Peake. Eventually Markus Josephus will be like Mark Barron. Aandrik Ierunmungur is Kareem Jackson.

Then I broke off a bit; Eric Drake is Todd Heap. Of the Ravens, the 2010-2011 AFC Champions.

Ignoring all that, though, it's not possible; point differential is a tie-breaker before H2H record is in this WB. That's actually what we almost ended up with in my group last time, with Qazox losing getting me into the playoffs.

Well, if I just don't lose anymore then all my problems are solved

Well, my team is basically the University of South Carolina (SEC) mixed with Presbyterian College (Blue Hose!) and some random people I made up. And Macho Harris.

Does Cass have the equivalent of Percy Harvin? If so that's probably why. B/c without Percy Harvin the Gators were way less productive.

And Tim Webb really did throw for 648 yards and 7 TD's in a game. That actually happened.


I was there.

[The Fanboyists]

Hopefully Group D won't end up like the Big 12 in 2008, or that the top 3 teams all go 1-1 with each other.

Glad to see my Mayors back to their winning ways, and with domination too!

Nothing wrong with that. It always makes way for the SEC of the World Bowl; Group I! After all, we've got Cass airing it out like the Gators and me running the ball like a good 'Bama boy does!

Who, in case you havn't realized, are who the team's based on, with Haanryk Stahlburg more or less being Mark Ingram and Maarkus Daalhulm being Greg McElroy. Gaarutt Fulvshundlur is Trent Richardson. Phillipa Demirici's is Leigh Tiffin, in case you couldn't tell. Miles Ryan is Rolando McClain.

And Theo Laansur is Mount Cody. And, well, Honorius Waalturs and Danny Rickenbacher are...well, the defensive ends. Mikel Dunn is Julio Jones, and Kiel Duskarr is Darius Hanks. Willy Theodore is Colin Peake. Eventually Markus Josephus will be like Mark Barron. Aandrik Ierunmungur is Kareem Jackson.

Then I broke off a bit; Eric Drake is Todd Heap. Of the Ravens, the 2010-2011 AFC Champions.

Ignoring all that, though, it's not possible; point differential is a tie-breaker before H2H record is in this WB. That's actually what we almost ended up with in my group last time, with Qazox losing getting me into the playoffs.

Well, if I just don't lose anymore then all my problems are solved

Well, my team is basically the University of South Carolina (SEC) mixed with Presbyterian College (Blue Hose!) and some random people I made up. And Macho Harris.

Does Cass have the equivalent of Percy Harvin? If so that's probably why. B/c without Percy Harvin the Gators were way less productive.

And Tim Webb really did throw for 648 yards and 7 TD's in a game. That actually happened.


I was there.

And Mark Ingram really won the Heisman Trophy. Alas, I was not there for it. But I watched the Championship games where the Tide made the Longhorns their dinner. Steak dinner, actually. ):D

[Cassadaigua]

Nothing wrong with that. It always makes way for the SEC of the World Bowl; Group I! After all, we've got Cass airing it out like the Gators and me running the ball like a good 'Bama boy does!

Since when are we airing it out?

The theme of my team has been the dominating play of the secondary (and their approximately 20 INT's total at this point) and with them probably having scored more points then some of the lower teams have in total and when they haven't been bringing it back for six our drives are beginning with excellent field position. I'm pretty sure I've balanced rushing and passing touchdowns pretty well. I haven't figured anyone having a huge receiving day or passing day yet.

Don't know where this 'we're airing it out' is coming from in all honesty.

[The Fanboyists]

Nothing wrong with that. It always makes way for the SEC of the World Bowl; Group I! After all, we've got Cass airing it out like the Gators and me running the ball like a good 'Bama boy does!

Since when are we airing it out?

The theme of my team has been the dominating play of the secondary (and their approximately 20 INT's total at this point) and with them probably having scored more points then some of the lower teams have in total and when they haven't been bringing it back for six our drives are beginning with excellent field position. I'm pretty sure I've balanced rushing and passing touchdowns pretty well. I haven't figured anyone having a huge receiving day or passing day yet.

Don't know where this 'we're airing it out' is coming from in all honesty.

I assume everyone's inherently weak, I guess. Like Tom Brady. ;D

Hence why I assume everyone airs it out unless they explicitly state otherwise. Hence why I assume you air it out (which, as you pointed out, not more than normal), Tocrowkia airs it out (OK, I'm actually right about that one), and that Arroza Bluth airs it out. Actually, with Bluth I figured because that's how Peyton does it. I'd insinuate that Secristan airs it out too, if I didn't think he'd post a nasty article about my offense. (*nudge nudges Secristan*)

Besides, that makes the Florida comparison more accurate; they run AND pass. And, in the case of this past year, come in second in both. Not that I'm implying anything. ;p

BTW, did you get my TG, Cass?

[Sarzonia]

I only air it out when teams start employing eight- and nine-man fronts against me.

Of course, if I were to employ a passing attack, Gavin Davis would not be a guy I'd be afraid to air it out with.

[The Fanboyists]

I only air it out when teams start employing eight- and nine-man fronts against me.

Of course, if I were to employ a passing attack, Gavin Davis would not be a guy I'd be afraid to air it out with.

I coulda swore you were one of the people with a passing-heavy offense. Not quite Tocrowkia-level of pass-devotion, obviously, but I thought you did.

But y'all should encourage my misconceptions; the last time I had a misconception like that, I got my ass handed to me by Newmanistan.

[The Fanboyists]

I only air it out when teams start employing eight- and nine-man fronts against me.

Of course, if I were to employ a passing attack, Gavin Davis would not be a guy I'd be afraid to air it out with.

Hey, if you're gonna do it, you might as well go all out. Whats the difference, really, between a 5-2 and a 5-3, or a 4-4? There's no secondary any more with any of 'em. You might as well just keep the corners there to cover, and just bring the safeties in to blitz too, while you're at it.

[Rennidan]

Steroga 10-7 Vephrall

Group C certainly is taking a dicking from Margaret.