Nationstates Olympic Games Discussion Thread

[Krytenia]

And you make this claim based on what authority?

Oh, we need an authority? Apparently I’m in charge for the moment, since neither president Kelssek nor vice-president Krytenia is around. (Kelssek ought to be back in time to put any forthcoming bids to a vote, though.)

Todd McCloud, I don’t think there’s anything wrong with doing that.

If you want to hold off till 7/7/11, I should have broadband back then.

EDIT: Voting, I mean hold off voting.

[New Palmouth (Ancient)]

It was a very nice bid from Carasatoga, espically when they are newbie bidding for the first time. Oursleves would not risk it however, I would only bid with Chernokya.

[Carasatoga]

It was a very nice bid from Carasatoga, espically when they are newbie bidding for the first time. Oursleves would not risk it however, I would only bid with Chernokya.

You mean Chenkorya?

[Chenkorya]

It was a very nice bid from Carasatoga, espically when they are newbie bidding for the first time. Oursleves would not risk it however, I would only bid with Chernokya.

I'll never bid with you if you stay spelling my name wrong. You did not spelled it correct once!
Btw, I don't even THINK about a host bid for the Olympics.

[New Palmouth (Ancient)]

It was a very nice bid from Carasatoga, espically when they are newbie bidding for the first time. Oursleves would not risk it however, I would only bid with Chernokya.

I'll never bid with you if you stay spelling my name wrong. You did not spelled it correct once!
Btw, I don't even THINK about a host bid for the Olympics.

OK calm down, I'm sorry CHENKORYA! Anyway, I was not even ready to bid, I was just saying if I was.

[Carasatoga]

Why do you have this weird obsession about partnering with Chenkorya? You two fought about on the Wadomia Athletics thread as well.

[New Palmouth (Ancient)]

Why do you have this weird obsession about partnering with Chenkorya? You two fought about on the Wadomia Athletics thread as well.

It's only because we're in the same region. That's all.

[Commerce Heights]

To anyone who bids: Will all of the events on the extended list be held? If not, which of these events will be held? Will there be a single event in the women’s 25 m pistol, incorporating both precision and rapid-fire components (as is done IRL, and was done at the last Games in Outineau), or will there be separate precision and rapid-fire events (as is done for the men’s events, and was done at Querzakhi, Columbia, and Aeropag)? Will the women’s keelboat sailing event be held in a fleet race format (as was done IRL prior to 2012, and is still the case for the men’s keelboat event), a match race format (as will be done IRL in 2012), or will there be separate fleet and match race events? If the latter, will there also be a men’s match race event?

To Cafundéu: Will the organizing committee reïmburse the participating Olympic committees for their delegations’ expenses?

To Carasatoga: If you want to “practice” for a bid to host the next Olympic Winter Games, would you not be better served by hosting another competition which approaches the complexity of the winter Games, rather than putting in a hopeless bid for the most difficult competition in all of NS Sports?

[Wolfmanne]

Alright... I promised to, so I'm doing it - Lasft's bid for the next Olympics:

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Scorination and Schedule
Nothing new in this part. Xkoranate will be used, and for entries and sign-up process the same method of previous Olympics will be used, with the 0.5 average limit still on and the same limit on number of entries.

As for scorination, the idea is to scorinate only once per day, for an entire month. The competition will be long this way, but that's the necessity in order for me to guarantee a fine hosting process. The schedule will depend on when the announcement of Olympics' host will be released, but the plan is to have it as early as possible, early August as the worst deadline.

Stance on demonstration events
Practically any event that receives enough support will be transformed into a demonstration event, and they can be freely suggested as long as the one suggesting gives all the necessary data in order to the event to be held (set of scores, way of scorinating, competition format, etc.). The necessary support will be from 6-8 users, depending on the amount of sports being suggested.


Less-important part below:
The Country and the City
Cafundéu is a country fanatic for sports, and one with a remarkable history in the Olympic Games. Competing since the II Winter Olympics, right now Cafundéu has the status of being the nation with most gold medals and overall medals in the history of the Games, with the country's best performance being in the III Summer Olympics. The country has already hosted one Olympic Games, the V Winter Olympics in São Jorge, and it was only a matter of time before the COC - Comitê Olímpico Cafundelense decided to attempt to host the Summer Olympics. There was a long time of hesitation, but at last the awaited Lasft bid is being released.

Lasft is the second biggest city of Cafundéu, only behind the capital of the country Cafundó do Juta. Capital of one of the eight states of Cafundéu, one that is called Lasft too, it is the centre of business and economic activity of the country. The biggest companies investing in the country have their headquarters in Lasft, and the commerce is intense, attracting tourists by its own. But there is more in Lasft than just money and business: the city has some nice beaches, even though some are being affected by pollution. Located on the seaside, Lasft gets crowded, even more than usual, during the summer. But there is another specific characteristic of this huge metropolis that made it a natural choice for tentative host of the Olympic Games: Lasft is considered the sports capital of Cafundéu, and is always holding decisive events of national and international competition. Due to this, the city has a lot of facilities already built for an Olympics.


Facilities
Due to the intense sporting activity in Lasft, with the city hosting many competitions, most of the facilities intended to be used for the Olympic Games already exist. But, in order to provide the best experience for the athletes and supporters, many will be improved and a few will be built. Let's take a look on the main places:

Obelisco Monumental
The 300,000 capacity stadium is known worldwide, as it has already hosted three World Cup finals to date, and several other important matches in the footballing world's history. Home of Petardos S/A, Cafundéu's most famous domestic club, the stadium is always being improved, and no plans are being made to change its infrastructure for the Olympics. This stadium would host both the opening and closing ceremony, plus the final match of the association football events. It may also host one or another shooting event if necessary.

Estádio Anchieta
Home of SC Lasft, this 60,000 capacity stadium will host most of the association football's matches and can also be used in several athletics' events. In truth, it is already the most used venue for the national athletics' championships. In case demonstration events in football or rugby be held, it will also host these, with the organizators having to desperately paint the field and curse the ones asking for these events.

Arena Terrão
Although the Estádio Anchieta has all the necessary to host the athletics' events, the Arena Terrão will be built in order to receive the main athletics' competitions. Focused only in athletics, the construction of such an arena will greatly benefit the supporters and athletes, who may finally say that there is a place designed only for their favourite sport.

Ginásio Cavadinha
Used only for volleyball, the Ginásio Cavadinha is probably the most modern sports-related structure in Cafundéu. With a high maintenance cost, it is hardly used in Cafundéu, but the Olympic Games will be the perfect opportunity for the politicians to say that it will have some use.

UFC (Universidade Federal Cafundelense)'s Facilities
The Lasft campus of the UFC, Cafundéu's main university, has many facilities for use in sports. The sports that are lesser known in Cafundéu and do not have other facilities available in the city will be held at the university, as well as others for which the university has the best place. Some examples include Badminton, Rowing and Gymnastics.

Complexo Aquático Peixe-Boi
Place of the swimming events and other water-related competitions, this complex is already top class and won't be changed for the Olympics. All the pools have the requested sizes and have their water temperature controlled. Also, the water used does not come from the sewers, like what happens in smaller cities of Cafundéu.

Praia do Farofeiro
The selected beach where usually Beach Volleyball arenas are built on, and the same will happen for the Olympic Games. It is a very, very, but very crowded beach, but security strategies will be implemented to not let this harm the quality of the games. The sea, of course, is where Sailing events will be held. Also, the aquatic marathon will start in this beach, and the organizators are making sure that no sharks will be around.

Jóquei Clube Sangue Azul
An elite club for the lovers of Equestrian and Archery, it will be where these two competitions will be held. Expect very expensive tickets for these events, since the administrators of the club will be responsible for charging the prices. Shooting events are also planned to be in the club.

Clube de Campo Irmãos Metralha
A more popular club, it is the top place in all Cafundéu for Tennis, even Table Tennis. The courts are perfect, and the main Cafundelense athletes train there. As the club has many other facilities, it may even host another event, but no one is sure... it will depend on the state of the other existing places in Lasft, or if it'll be cheaper to host there.

Cassino Bons Investimentos
If boxing is a Olympic sport, then the Cassino Bons Investimentos has to be the place for the fights to take place. This way the fans can lose money... erm, I mean, entertain themselves before the fights and watch them in a place designed for it. Wrestling events will be also done in the cassino.

AREHSCA (Associação da Rede Hoteleira do Sul Cafundelense)
The main hotels of Lasft are part of the AREHSCA, the association of hotels of Cafundéu's southern part, in which the Lasft state is located. Since Lasft is a huge metropolis and a common destination for tourists during all year, it is believed that the city has the necessary infrastructure to receive the media, athletes and supporters.

Olympic Village
Unfortunately for the athletes and many other people, the Olympic Village in Lasft will have to be built away from the main sites of the city and of the most used facilities in the Games. This because there isn't any more space for a Village close to the facilities! Sorry guys.

The best bid I've seen so far. You've had the most experience out of the bidders, so you've got my vote. Your stance on demonstration sports is something I like as well.

[Kelssek]

An Olympic Council president appears!

I'm away from home at the moment but I have found free wi-fi and do not consider the middle of a thunderstorm to be my idea of a good night out. Anyway, in addition to Commerce Heights's questions, if Carastoga were to elaborate on their hosting experience of other events it would certainly help me decide if the IC "technical requirements" are met by their bid.

[Demphor]

Can I be in the Olympics? I've been waiting for something like this!

[Wolfmanne]

Can I be in the Olympics? I've been waiting for something like this!

Sure! Everyone is welcome.

[Demphor]

Can I be in the Olympics? I've been waiting for something like this!

Sure! Everyone is welcome.

Awesomesuace

[Carasatoga]

Regarding my hosting experience I have hosted both Volleyball World Expos and also the World Indoor Soccer Championships and have begun my own domestic soccer league.

About the extended list:
BOTH Events in Men's Synchro Swimming would be held

The Women's 50 km walk would NOT be included, unless it is wanted as a demonstration event

NONE of the extended Women's Boxing Events would be included, unless they are wanted (separately) as demonstration events

NONE of the extended Women's Events in either Discipline of Canoeing would be included, unless they are wanted (separately) as demonstration events

BOTH the Men's and Women's extended Events in Fencing would be held

BOTH Events in the Men's Rhythmic Gymnastics Discipline would be held

BOTH extended Events in Women's Rowing would be held

BOTH extended Events in Women's Sailing would be held, and they would be fleet races, like the Men's

ALL extended Events in Women's Shooting would be held, and yes there would be separate Events for precision and rapid-fire

NONE of the Women's Events in the Greco-Roman Discipline would be held, unless they are wanted (as an entire discipline) as demonstration events

Also, Bergnovinaia has agreed, graciously, to help with some scorinating of events if I need the assistance. I believe it would help my credibility and my bid for someone like Bergnovinaia to offer to do something like that, thanks Bergnovinaia.
Also, Commerce, by "practice" I meant actually writing out and submitting the bid on the forum, making it look good and be technically sound, not practicing scorination of such a huge tournament.

[Bergnovinaia]

Regarding my hosting experience I have hosted both Volleyball World Expos and also the World Indoor Soccer Championships and have begun my own domestic soccer league.

About the extended list:
BOTH Events in Men's Synchro Swimming would be held

The Women's 50 km walk would NOT be included, unless it is wanted as a demonstration event

NONE of the extended Women's Boxing Events would be included, unless they are wanted (separately) as demonstration events

NONE of the extended Women's Events in either Discipline of Canoeing would be included, unless they are wanted (separately) as demonstration events

BOTH the Men's and Women's extended Events in Fencing would be held

BOTH Events in the Men's Rhythmic Gymnastics Discipline would be held

BOTH extended Events in Women's Rowing would be held

BOTH extended Events in Women's Sailing would be held, and they would be fleet races, like the Men's

ALL extended Events in Women's Shooting would be held, and yes there would be separate Events for precision and rapid-fire

NONE of the Women's Events in the Greco-Roman Discipline would be held, unless they are wanted (as an entire discipline) as demonstration events

Also, Bergnovinaia has agreed, graciously, to help with some scorinating of events if I need the assistance. I believe it would help my credibility and my bid for someone like Bergnovinaia to offer to do something like that, thanks Bergnovinaia.
Also, Commerce, by "practice" I meant actually writing out and submitting the bid on the forum, making it look good and be technically sound, not practicing scorination of such a huge tournament.

Although hypothetically, all I've ever really "hosted" is tennis championships, but I have done experimental work with other scorinators, such as xhonorate.

[New Palmouth (Ancient)]

I have tested out a few things, and I propose a new symbol to represent the games. A torch! More details later.....

[Cafundeu]

In answer to the questions:

All events of the extended list will be scorinated, with the exception being the Women's 25m Rapid Fire Pistol. This because, already answering another question, the 25m Pistol event will mix precision and rapid fire. As for the sailing, we'll do only a match race event in the Women's Keelboat.

About delegation expenses, the Cafundelense Olympic Committee has no plans to directly reimburse the participating committees for their expenses in Cafundéu. However, the organizators are working together with the government to encourage Cafundelense companies to sponsor delegations in need, paying most of their expenses in exchange for some exposure, and earning a tax cut in return. This way, the government won't lose much money and the national industry will get extra exposure.

[Vulshain]

I've been trying to follow along, but who's running to be elected the host nation?

[Darmen]

I've been trying to follow along, but who's running to be elected the host nation?

Curently there are two bids.
-Cafundeu
-Carasatoga

[The Archregimancy]

I know you been doing this for years, it's just that there comes a time where the situation becomes risky. I would prefer if we make a list of sports we would like to see as main sports, and then put others as demoration. It's time for a change to these Olympic events.

We use the official real life event list to avoid disputes over which events should be included. Having a neutral external standard avoids arguments.

I have tested out a few things, and I propose a new symbol to represent the games. A torch! More details later.....

I'm not sure I can really characterise your frequent unsolicited advice over the last few pages as 'spam' per se - it's more uncontrolled enthusiasm. There's certainly nothing wrong with enthusiasm, but I might recommend that you perhaps take a deep breath before making your next post and consider whether all of your contributions here are helpful and/or contribute positively to discussion.

[New Palmouth (Ancient)]

I have tested out a few things, and I propose a new symbol to represent the games. A torch! More details later.....

I'm not sure I can really characterise your frequent unsolicited advice over the last few pages as 'spam' per se - it's more uncontrolled enthusiasm. There's certainly nothing wrong with enthusiasm, but I might recommend that you perhaps take a deep breath before making your next post and consider whether all of your contributions here are helpful and/or contribute positively to discussion.

I apolgize immediatley, I should have said that I've already created a logo for the 7th Summer Games.

[Chenkorya]

I'm not sure I can really characterise your frequent unsolicited advice over the last few pages as 'spam' per se - it's more uncontrolled enthusiasm. There's certainly nothing wrong with enthusiasm, but I might recommend that you perhaps take a deep breath before making your next post and consider whether all of your contributions here are helpful and/or contribute positively to discussion.

I apolgize immediatley, I should have said that I've already created a logo for the 7th Summer Games.

No, that's even more worse.

[New Palmouth (Ancient)]

I apolgize immediatley, I should have said that I've already created a logo for the 7th Summer Games.

No, that's even more worse.

I only done it as a test, I was not gonna submit it. But I would like a change from the star logo.

[Chenkorya]

No, that's even more worse.

I only done it as a test, I was not gonna submit it. But I would like a change from the star logo.

Yeah, but that's not really possible, you know. You can't change something that's a tradition, especially if you're not very experienced.

[New Palmouth (Ancient)]

I only done it as a test, I was not gonna submit it. But I would like a change from the star logo.

Yeah, but that's not really possible, you know. You can't change something that's a tradition, especially if you're not very experienced.

I know, but I've seen the star logo, and compared it to the Olympic logo. The colours are meant to represent 5 continents, when we have 100's. Therefore after my tests, I suggest changing it to a torch.