Nationstates Olympic Games Discussion Thread

[Chenkorya]

Can I suggest a demonstration sport? What do you think of Inline Skating?

[New Palmouth (Ancient)]

This is how I see it:

Main events would be all the popular sports (Atheltics, Tennis, Rugby etc.)

Demostration sports should be unpopular sports AND/OR rare sports played in the host country.

You know, others have been doing this for years. It's not like we're starting from scratch here, there have been five Summer Games and six Winter Games. The main events are the RL IOC program, the demonstration sports are those that others suggest and approve and that the hosts are willing to do.

I know you been doing this for years, it's just that there comes a time where the situation becomes risky. I would prefer if we make a list of sports we would like to see as main sports, and then put others as demoration. It's time for a change to these Olympic events.

[Chenkorya]

You know, others have been doing this for years. It's not like we're starting from scratch here, there have been five Summer Games and six Winter Games. The main events are the RL IOC program, the demonstration sports are those that others suggest and approve and that the hosts are willing to do.

I know you been doing this for years, it's just that there comes a time where the situation becomes risky. I would prefer if we make a list of sports we would like to see as main sports, and then put others as demoration. It's time for a change to these Olympic events.

New Palmouth, stop giving suggestions! You're just a newbie, you did not even entered the Olympics once, you've never scorinated an event... You can't change something which is already running longer then that you are on NS!

[New Palmouth (Ancient)]

I know you been doing this for years, it's just that there comes a time where the situation becomes risky. I would prefer if we make a list of sports we would like to see as main sports, and then put others as demoration. It's time for a change to these Olympic events.

New Palmouth, stop giving suggestions! You're just a newbie, you did not even entered the Olympics once, you've never scorinated an event... You can't change something which is already running longer then that you are on NS!

Calm down man, I have been on NationStates before, I played as Palmouth for a few years, then changed to this nation, alright!

[Delaclava]

I know you been doing this for years, it's just that there comes a time where the situation becomes risky. I would prefer if we make a list of sports we would like to see as main sports, and then put others as demoration. It's time for a change to these Olympic events.

How is there any possible way it becomes risky? The reason we do it is to avoid the politics of inclusion and exclusion of certain sports. Stop just throwing suggestions around to sound impressive, actually try to explain them, otherwise there's no chance at them being helpful.

(And to say that you played for "a few years" is an utter joke, but I'll ignore that.)

[Sorthern Northland]

I know you been doing this for years, it's just that there comes a time where the situation becomes risky. I would prefer if we make a list of sports we would like to see as main sports, and then put others as demoration. It's time for a change to these Olympic events.

Surely by making such a drastic change as you're suggesting would change it from being the Olympics.

[Bears Armed]

There's a competition that I'd really like to see as a demonstration event but that I suspect none of the various scorinator programmes currently available has rules for handling yet: I'd therefore like to ask the developers to look at the possibility of modifying their systems to handle 'Command Field Gun'....


(I've seen this performed at the Royal Tournament, and it's a pretty spectacular event...)

This event could probably be done with a simple mod to an existing xkoranate file. I'm going to experiment with auto racing, qualifying mode, using the existing record time supplied in the article. That might be workable with no mods at all.

Great!


(Now we'll just need to persuade whoever's hosting these games that it's worthy of inclusion...)

[Wolfmanne]

I'm considering modding Boxing and Karate, and if required the other martial arts scripts in Xkoranate by merging them into one, thus creating several Kickboxing events which can be used as demonstration sports. However I'm not sure about that right now.

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This event could probably be done with a simple mod to an existing xkoranate file. I'm going to experiment with auto racing, qualifying mode, using the existing record time supplied in the article. That might be workable with no mods at all.

Great!


(Now we'll just need to persuade whoever's hosting these games that it's worthy of inclusion...)

I must say, I looked this up on youtube after reading this, and it is pretty cool. I think if someone hosted a military tournament, like the Royal Tournament, that would be cool. I might consider hosting it, but I think someone more experienced would be much better and would make it run smooth. along with the Command Field Gun, you could have a Comando course, a Parade, a Paintball tournament, etc.

[Cafundeu]

Alright... I promised to, so I'm doing it - Lasft's bid for the next Olympics:

Scorination and Schedule
Nothing new in this part. Xkoranate will be used, and for entries and sign-up process the same method of previous Olympics will be used, with the 0.5 average limit still on and the same limit on number of entries.

As for scorination, the idea is to scorinate only once per day, for an entire month. The competition will be long this way, but that's the necessity in order for me to guarantee a fine hosting process. The schedule will depend on when the announcement of Olympics' host will be released, but the plan is to have it as early as possible, early August as the worst deadline.

Stance on demonstration events
Practically any event that receives enough support will be transformed into a demonstration event, and they can be freely suggested as long as the one suggesting gives all the necessary data in order to the event to be held (set of scores, way of scorinating, competition format, etc.). The necessary support will be from 6-8 users, depending on the amount of sports being suggested.


Less-important part below:
The Country and the City
Cafundéu is a country fanatic for sports, and one with a remarkable history in the Olympic Games. Competing since the II Winter Olympics, right now Cafundéu has the status of being the nation with most gold medals and overall medals in the history of the Games, with the country's best performance being in the III Summer Olympics. The country has already hosted one Olympic Games, the V Winter Olympics in São Jorge, and it was only a matter of time before the COC - Comitê Olímpico Cafundelense decided to attempt to host the Summer Olympics. There was a long time of hesitation, but at last the awaited Lasft bid is being released.

Lasft is the second biggest city of Cafundéu, only behind the capital of the country Cafundó do Juta. Capital of one of the eight states of Cafundéu, one that is called Lasft too, it is the centre of business and economic activity of the country. The biggest companies investing in the country have their headquarters in Lasft, and the commerce is intense, attracting tourists by its own. But there is more in Lasft than just money and business: the city has some nice beaches, even though some are being affected by pollution. Located on the seaside, Lasft gets crowded, even more than usual, during the summer. But there is another specific characteristic of this huge metropolis that made it a natural choice for tentative host of the Olympic Games: Lasft is considered the sports capital of Cafundéu, and is always holding decisive events of national and international competition. Due to this, the city has a lot of facilities already built for an Olympics.


Facilities
Due to the intense sporting activity in Lasft, with the city hosting many competitions, most of the facilities intended to be used for the Olympic Games already exist. But, in order to provide the best experience for the athletes and supporters, many will be improved and a few will be built. Let's take a look on the main places:

Obelisco Monumental
The 300,000 capacity stadium is known worldwide, as it has already hosted three World Cup finals to date, and several other important matches in the footballing world's history. Home of Petardos S/A, Cafundéu's most famous domestic club, the stadium is always being improved, and no plans are being made to change its infrastructure for the Olympics. This stadium would host both the opening and closing ceremony, plus the final match of the association football events. It may also host one or another shooting event if necessary.

Estádio Anchieta
Home of SC Lasft, this 60,000 capacity stadium will host most of the association football's matches and can also be used in several athletics' events. In truth, it is already the most used venue for the national athletics' championships. In case demonstration events in football or rugby be held, it will also host these, with the organizators having to desperately paint the field and curse the ones asking for these events.

Arena Terrão
Although the Estádio Anchieta has all the necessary to host the athletics' events, the Arena Terrão will be built in order to receive the main athletics' competitions. Focused only in athletics, the construction of such an arena will greatly benefit the supporters and athletes, who may finally say that there is a place designed only for their favourite sport.

Ginásio Cavadinha
Used only for volleyball, the Ginásio Cavadinha is probably the most modern sports-related structure in Cafundéu. With a high maintenance cost, it is hardly used in Cafundéu, but the Olympic Games will be the perfect opportunity for the politicians to say that it will have some use.

UFC (Universidade Federal Cafundelense)'s Facilities
The Lasft campus of the UFC, Cafundéu's main university, has many facilities for use in sports. The sports that are lesser known in Cafundéu and do not have other facilities available in the city will be held at the university, as well as others for which the university has the best place. Some examples include Badminton, Rowing and Gymnastics.

Complexo Aquático Peixe-Boi
Place of the swimming events and other water-related competitions, this complex is already top class and won't be changed for the Olympics. All the pools have the requested sizes and have their water temperature controlled. Also, the water used does not come from the sewers, like what happens in smaller cities of Cafundéu.

Praia do Farofeiro
The selected beach where usually Beach Volleyball arenas are built on, and the same will happen for the Olympic Games. It is a very, very, but very crowded beach, but security strategies will be implemented to not let this harm the quality of the games. The sea, of course, is where Sailing events will be held. Also, the aquatic marathon will start in this beach, and the organizators are making sure that no sharks will be around.

Jóquei Clube Sangue Azul
An elite club for the lovers of Equestrian and Archery, it will be where these two competitions will be held. Expect very expensive tickets for these events, since the administrators of the club will be responsible for charging the prices. Shooting events are also planned to be in the club.

Clube de Campo Irmãos Metralha
A more popular club, it is the top place in all Cafundéu for Tennis, even Table Tennis. The courts are perfect, and the main Cafundelense athletes train there. As the club has many other facilities, it may even host another event, but no one is sure... it will depend on the state of the other existing places in Lasft, or if it'll be cheaper to host there.

Cassino Bons Investimentos
If boxing is a Olympic sport, then the Cassino Bons Investimentos has to be the place for the fights to take place. This way the fans can lose money... erm, I mean, entertain themselves before the fights and watch them in a place designed for it. Wrestling events will be also done in the cassino.

AREHSCA (Associação da Rede Hoteleira do Sul Cafundelense)
The main hotels of Lasft are part of the AREHSCA, the association of hotels of Cafundéu's southern part, in which the Lasft state is located. Since Lasft is a huge metropolis and a common destination for tourists during all year, it is believed that the city has the necessary infrastructure to receive the media, athletes and supporters.

Olympic Village
Unfortunately for the athletes and many other people, the Olympic Village in Lasft will have to be built away from the main sites of the city and of the most used facilities in the Games. This because there isn't any more space for a Village close to the facilities! Sorry guys.

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Sorry, ignore, double post

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Great!


(Now we'll just need to persuade whoever's hosting these games that it's worthy of inclusion...)

I must say, I looked this up on youtube after reading this, and it is pretty cool. I think if someone hosted a military tournament, like the Royal Tournament, that would be cool. I might consider hosting it, but I think someone more experienced would be much better and would make it run smooth. along with the Command Field Gun, you could have a Comando course, a Parade, a Paintball tournament, etc.

If no one here objects, I am thinking of making a military exercise competition interest thread for a competition hosted in ABK. I have a list of events that would be competed in, and if anyone wants that, just ask me to tg it to you. I am not sure what scorinator would be used or hwo scoring would be done, but I think i would be using xkoranate 0.3.2 with one of the events for scoring, not sure which yet. If anyone objects to this, just tell me, and I won't do it.

[Civil Citizenry]

I must say, I looked this up on youtube after reading this, and it is pretty cool. I think if someone hosted a military tournament, like the Royal Tournament, that would be cool. I might consider hosting it, but I think someone more experienced would be much better and would make it run smooth. along with the Command Field Gun, you could have a Comando course, a Parade, a Paintball tournament, etc.

If no one here objects, I am thinking of making a military exercise competition interest thread for a competition hosted in ABK. I have a list of events that would be competed in, and if anyone wants that, just ask me to tg it to you. I am not sure what scorinator would be used or hwo scoring would be done, but I think i would be using xkoranate 0.3.2 with one of the events for scoring, not sure which yet. If anyone objects to this, just tell me, and I won't do it.

What does this have to do with the Olympics?

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What does this have to do with the Olympics?

Sorry, they were talking about a military competition above, and this probably shouldn't belong here. I just wouldn't want to open a thread that goes to waste, and since they were on the topic of military competitions... But this shouldnt be here and I'll make a separate thread.

[The Babbage Islands]

Readers of the Scorinators OOC thread will have seen that I am having difficulties with importing text files to xkoranate. I've pulled multiple tricks out of the kit bag without success. This is a serious handicap for a prospective Olympics host. Serious enough, in fact, that the Charleston Olympics Organising Committee has proposed delaying any bid for an Olympics until at least the VII Winter Games.

Good luck, Caf.

[New Palmouth (Ancient)]

Readers of the Scorinators OOC thread will have seen that I am having difficulties with importing text files to xkoranate. I've pulled multiple tricks out of the kit bag without success. This is a serious handicap for a prospective Olympics host. Serious enough, in fact, that the Charleston Olympics Organising Committee has proposed delaying any bid for an Olympics until at least the VII Winter Games.

Good luck, Caf.

If xkoranate is suffering problems, it probably needs another update.

[New Palmouth (Ancient)]

On the other hand, when will the host bidding for the next games begin. It's been a while since we've had one.

[The Babbage Islands]

On the other hand, when will the host bidding for the next games begin. It's been a while since we've had one.

Cafundeu just posted the first bid for the Games of the VI Olympiad. Each Olympics, summer and winter, runs about once a RL year.

[New Palmouth (Ancient)]

That's a very good bid from Cafendu, shame about the Olympic Village though. Here's who I suggest should bid:

Delaclava
Starbayda
Qazox
Wadomia

This is only a suggestion list, but I believe anyone of these four could do well at this time. Who hosted the previous Olympics?

[Polar Islandstates]

Might I suggest you learn to spell your fellow nations' names properly before playing master of puppets and orchestrating bids from nations who may have no intention of bidding?

I assume your intentions are probably all noble, but I'm sure I won't be the only user who will see a post phrased like that as a bit in bad taste. There is a huge difference between "_______ would run a good Olympics" and "Here's who I suggest should bid".

[Starblaydia]

That's a very good bid from Cafendu, shame about the Olympic Village though. Here's who I suggest should bid:

Delaclava
Starbayda
Qazox
Wadomia

This is only a suggestion list, but I believe anyone of these four could do well at this time. Who hosted the previous Olympics?

I am in esteemed company, indeed, assuming that's supposed to me up there. Especially considering I haven't even entered an Olympic Games in about 3 years.

Might I suggest you learn to spell your fellow nations' names properly before playing master of puppets and orchestrating bids from nations who may have no intention of bidding?

That might also be good advice. Though I have seen worse attempts than 'Starbayda', tbh.

[Carasatoga]

Bid to Host the Games of the VI Summer Olympiad in Queenstown, Carasatoga

Scorination
Xkoronate will be used, as usual, and the same sign up methods, number of sign ups and the limit of .5 will still be in use for these games as in the previous games.

Schedule
The schedule will be the same as in previous games, with perhaps two to three more days added to make the load somewhat easier. I would it to begin as soon as possible and it would last through most of August, perhaps into September.

Demonstration Sports
The view on demonstration events is that they are welcome to be proposed, but there must be a sign-up of at least 8 nations before it will be considered. Also, if there are more than 4 nations that oppose the demonstration event, it will NOT be played in Queenstown. The Olympic host is, however, willing to allow scorination of demonstration events that are not included in the games in other nations if there is the sign-up of 8 nations.

City
Queenstown is a city of about 32,000 year-round residents set in the center of Carasatoga on the Plains of Glory. Within the city limits is Queenstown International Airport (QNT) and CR-2 and CR-7, an interstate highway that leads North to the capital city of Caroga and South to Edmonton and Alexander. The Apoka Nation Reserve is also only three miles from downtown, home to many gambling institutions and cultural centers. The city center wraps around Lower Lake Queens, trisected by the North and South Queens Rivers, North Lake Queens also lies in the metropolitan area in Northern Queenstown. It has been named the most beautiful town in Carasatoga nine times, second only to Port Victoria's record twelve titles. Queenstown is home to the Carasatogan Olympic training complexes for all summer events, and also the Carasatogan youth sports academy. It is home to the Commonwealth's largest sports complex, spanning larger than the city itself, that is divided into four districts including:
South District

Queenstown International Speedway-More than likely will not be used in the VI Olympic Games, this is the largest speedway in Carasatoga housing a super speedway and a road track. It is so large that it itself makes up almost the entire South District.

Fusion Park-The facilities for Queenstown University's Baseball and Softball teams is here. Last year, the school allowed the complex to be taken over by the Carasatoga Olympic Council for these games, and as a result they have been renovated beautifully, able to house both sports with a capacity of 108,773. This complex also includes a training park next door with 5 fields and spectator space available.

East District
This is where most events would take place.

Olympic Stadium-Home to the American Football, Lacrosse, Clayball and Track and Field facilities, the only one which may be of use being the Track and Field facilities. This would also host the opening and closing ceremonies, as it is the largest outdoor stadium in Carasatoga, holding a maximum capacity of 321,628. It's unique shape has also given it the title of Carasatoga's Most Beautiful Building Award in 2009, when it was constructed.

Galaxy Field-Unusual for most Olympic venues, Galaxy Field was made for, and specifically houses the facilities for Association Football. All soccer matches will be played here, with a capacity of 98,253.

Giants Arena-With a seating of 65,000, this will hold the Basketball competition.

V Place-With a seating of 44,522 and four courts, this would hold the Volleyball competition.

Sand Sports Center-This stadium is floored with sand and is the home to both Beach Soccer and Volleyball with capacities of 35,900 and 26,226 respectively.

Glory Range-This would hold all shooting and other outdoor skills competitions. Spectator space will hold 3,700.

Queenstown Gardens-This complex is home to Carasatoga's most beautiful Tennis courts and Golf course, along with separate facilities for Fencing, Badminton, Table Tennis, Boxing and Wrestling.

North District
This is home to all water competitions, sometimes called the Queen's Crown because it lies upon Upper Lake Queens.

Upper Lake Queens-Home to the Rowing and Sailing competitions.

The Crown Pools-A beautiful, state of the art facility that is home to the Swimming and Diving facilities, newly built in 2020 for the Commonwealth Games. Capacities for both centers is 34,100.

West District
This is the only District that does not house any athletics complexes.

North Star Center-This is a training grounds and gymnasium for the Olympic athletes.

Olympic Village-This is where the athletes competing in the games will be housed, with adequate security and more than adequate amenities for the visitors.

Olympic Center-This is the center of the games, where the flame will be housed for the duration of the games, and is also on a 1,500 acre park newly made for these games that sits atop the banks of the Northern part of Lower Lake Queens.

Not in Queenstown
The only event not held in the city of Queenstown would be the Equestrian Competition, which will be held at the Apoka Nation Country Club, on the Apoka Nation Reservation. This is the home to Carasatoga's most beautiful, most prestigious and largest horse show, Equestrian competition, and is also home to the Apoka Grand Prix, the most watched Horse Race in Carasatoga. Because this facility is less than five miles away from the city center, the Olympic Council believed it was good fashion to allow the Apoka Nation to host an event, as they will be considered a co-host nation at the opening ceremonies.

Media Coverage
Carasatoga's most watched network, TVC, will be carrying the games in their entirety, whether they be hosted by Carasatoga or not, now with a new revamped logo.


X-Magazine, Carasatoga's leader in extreme sports coverage will also be present at the games, announcing and publishing the results daily.


Thank you for considering this bid by Queenstown, Carasatoga to host the VI Summer Olympic Games.
Signed, Milliarne Doonemore
President of Carasatoga National Olympic Council


Note: Schedule is subject to change as is Official SOG VI-Queenstown logo, as are venues. Also, Carasatoga plans on changing its flag especially for the games to show its sporting spirit and love of the games.

OOC: I know it is not likely that a newbie like me gets elected to host such a major and prestigious tournament, but I wanted to try, and I am using this as practice for future bids, especially for the next Winter Olympic Games which we will be trying like Hell to host.

[Abcdefghijklmnopqrstuk]

Sorry, but what does it mean by "the limit of .5", is that for skill, or rp bonus? or something else? sorry for being such a newbie

[Carasatoga]

The .5 limit refers to the average skill for all of your competitors. Usually there is a range of 0-1, but all together the average cannot be higher than .5.
For example:
I could have athletes with skills of:
Allen (1)
Brittany (0)
Courtney (.7)
Drew (.3)
Eric (.5)
And the average of the five is .5.

But I can't have:
Allen (1)
Brittany (.7)
Courtney (.2)
Drew (.9)
Eric (.85)
Because the average is greater than .5, which is unfair. It is made like that so that, like in RL, a nation can have good athletes and also horrible ones.

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ok, thanks for explaining.