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Sarzonia
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Postby Sarzonia » Wed Nov 03, 2021 2:03 pm

I'm going to name the arena where Sarzonia plays its home games The Henry West Center (it's still the same building as The Palestra, but it's named in memory of the first Sarzonian hoops manager).

If anyone wants to include the name of the arena in Woodstock, that's going to be the new name.
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Postby Bollonich » Fri Nov 12, 2021 9:53 am

Just wanted to let you all know that from next cutoff onwards, my window will move later in the evening for me (4 PM UTC to 6 PM UTC).
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Postby International Basketball Organization » Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:03 am

IBO membership updates. Eligibility reminder:

Section 1: To be a member of the IBO, a nation must have posted a roster and at least 1 RP in each of the previous 2 IBCs.

Section 2: Nations which do not post a roster for 2 consecutive IBCs will lose their membership.

Section 3: Any previous hosts of the IBC are automatically members of the IBO, so long as they successfully hosted the tournament to its conclusion and posted a roster in the most recently completed edition of the IBC.


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Banija
Bollonich*
Chromatika
Delaclava†
Equestria†
Graintfjall
Hebitaka†
Hispinas
Indusse
Kohnhead†
Ko-oren*
Lisander
Mytanija
Nova Anglicana
Quebec & Shingoryeo
Sarzonia
Srednjaci†
TJUN-ia
Trolleborg*
Valanora
Valentine Z*


* New additions
† Must post a roster in IBC 34 to retain membership.

The following nations will earn membership if they post a roster and an RP during IBC34:

Ardengard
Brookstation
Commonwealth of Baker Park
Southwest Eastnorth
StrayaRoos
The Orion Islands
United Adaikes


Having failed to keep up with membership requirements, the following nations have been removed as IBO members. They can regain IBO membership through renewed participation.

Cassadaigua
Drawkland
Juvencus
Kriegiersien
Newmanistan
Northwest Kalactin
Qasden
Rwekazaland
Squidroidia


Please notify us directly of any errors.


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Postby Hispinas » Sat Nov 27, 2021 6:15 am

Proposing an amendment to the IBO membership eligibility that should be effective before IBC34 starts.
Specific changes include changing Section 1 and adding several clauses in italics.

International Basketball Organization wrote:
International Basketball Organization (IBO) Constitution

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Article I: IBO Eligibility

Section 1: To be admitted as a member of the IBO, a nation should meet the following criteria:
Clause a. The nation must have posted a roster and at least 1 RP in each of the previous 2 IBCs, and
Clause b. The nation must be subjected to a vote by the incumbent IBO members to be admitted to the organization, and should not get more than 1/3 of the votes against admitting the said nation to the organization.
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Postby International Basketball Organization » Sat Nov 27, 2021 6:31 am

Noted. So that we don't have to run multiple votes, I'm going to exercise my rights as I interpret them under Article III Section 4 to say: Please submit any further constitutional amendments within the next 3 days (30 November 1300 UTC). Then, all amendments will be voted on. In this way we will avoid having to run multiple consecutive votes, which can be tedious.
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Postby Sarzonia » Sat Nov 27, 2021 9:27 am

I'm against adding a voting requirement for Council membership.

In theory I can understand it if we have concerns about the maturity of a player or players who might join the Council, but it often turns into a popularity contest rather than an avenue to weed out people who genuinely don't belong in decision-making.

For one thing, the WBC is pretty unique in having a mechanism to require voting. Posting a roster and a RP gets you membership in the WCC, the IBC, the World Bowl, the WCoH Federation, and the WLC. So far, we've followed the precedent set by the councils in every large sport besides baseball. What's the exigence behind bucking that precedent and going to a voting requirement?
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Postby International Basketball Organization » Tue Nov 30, 2021 6:19 am

With no further amendments being proposed, we will now vote. I'd like to request any future constitutional amendments wait until the next cycle.

The question is: Accept or Reject the amendment by Hispinas here?

Members of the IBO (listed here) may vote. Please send votes to this account by telegram by 5 December 1300 UTC.
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Postby Equestrian States » Tue Nov 30, 2021 6:24 am

Sarzonia wrote:I'm against adding a voting requirement for Council membership.

In theory I can understand it if we have concerns about the maturity of a player or players who might join the Council, but it often turns into a popularity contest rather than an avenue to weed out people who genuinely don't belong in decision-making.

For one thing, the WBC is pretty unique in having a mechanism to require voting. Posting a roster and a RP gets you membership in the WCC, the IBC, the World Bowl, the WCoH Federation, and the WLC. So far, we've followed the precedent set by the councils in every large sport besides baseball. What's the exigence behind bucking that precedent and going to a voting requirement?

Agreed. I’m firmly opposed to this proposal.
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Postby International Basketball Organization » Thu Dec 09, 2021 3:47 pm

Voting results:

Accept the amendment - 1
Reject the amendment - 7

Therefore the amendment is not adopted.




In terms of the next IBC, I am considering opening signups in the New Year.
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Postby International Basketball Organization » Thu Jan 13, 2022 6:27 am

It's my intention to open signups for the next IBC soon. According to the IBO constitution when I do so, I must set a deadline for signups, so I'm mentioning this intention as an advanced warning.

I realize the football World Cup is going on and tends to suck all the oxygen out of the room, but I don't feel every single tournament on NS needs work around it. Additionally, I would like the next IBC to happen before the next NSCAA tournament, which is scheduled to run through March.
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Postby IUBC » Fri Jan 14, 2022 6:09 pm

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