How are you all selling your oil so cheap?

[Blackhelm Confederacy]

This is all OOC:

That pretty much says it all. Griffincrest is a massive, multi-national corporation with captive markets and POW forced labor, along with extortion and many other methods to procure its oil, and Coalition Oil is also a massive conglomerate of several nations who have come together to undercut Griffincrest, and so do all that they can to create methods of extraction cheaper than our own (at least this is how I understand it). Now my question, how are all the rest of you selling your oil for $30, or even the $28 I just saw. It seems impossible to me.

[Serbian_Soviet_Union]

yawwwwwwwwwwwnnnnn , go invade nations and steal their oil and have a cry because your oil company cannot compete in the international market.

[Blackhelm Confederacy]

Rather than attempt an insult, why don't you actually answer the question?

[Serbian_Soviet_Union]

Rather than attempt an insult, why don't you actually answer the question?

First answer mine, whats the point of having a oil company if your company cannot compete in the international market or it does not know how to?? If invading a nation and stealing other nation's oil because of them selling cheap oil is your answer of eliminating other competition or competing in the international market in the oil sector then perhaps it just isn't your nations thing to have an oil company in the first place.

[Blackhelm Confederacy]

Er...corporate takeover, of course on a scale much lower, has been a substantial capitalist idea for over a century. Look at the views of the robber barons of the 19th/20th century. If there is another business threatening your monopoly, you take them down however you can. Of course, they did not use vast armies, by they used what they were capable of. Was oil not the "thing" of Rockefeller, or steel not the "thing" of Carnegie? Perhaps railroads were just not Vanderbilt's "thing" either eh?

[Serbian_Soviet_Union]

Er...corporate takeover, of course on a scale much lower, has been a substantial capitalist idea for over a century. Look at the views of the robber barons of the 19th/20th century. If there is another business threatening your monopoly, you take them down however you can. Of course, they did not use vast armies, by they used what they were capable of. Was oil not the "thing" of Rockefeller, or steel not the "thing" of Carnegie? Perhaps railroads were just not Vanderbilt's "thing" either eh?

Thank god for the coalition oil to counter any measures which your nation and your oil corporation would undertake in the future. We are infact also a Capitalist Nation btw.

[Turkish Federation]

Even if you try to invade other nations for their cheap oil, there is the IGNORE CANNON that will create a shield of IGNORE covering the entire country. And guess what: It's MT.

[Serbian_Soviet_Union]

Even if you try to invade other nations for their cheap oil, there is the IGNORE CANNON that will create a shield of IGNORE covering the entire country. And guess what: It's MT.

I already ignored his attempt to plan an invasion of my nation just for selling cheap oil. The ignore cannon will be fired if he is to create an invasion thread declaring war on my nation for the sake of selling cheap oil.

[Blouman Empire]

This is all OOC:

That pretty much says it all. Griffincrest is a massive, multi-national corporation with captive markets and POW forced labor, along with extortion and many other methods to procure its oil, and Coalition Oil is also a massive conglomerate of several nations who have come together to undercut Griffincrest, and so do all that they can to create methods of extraction cheaper than our own (at least this is how I understand it). Now my question, how are all the rest of you selling your oil for $30, or even the $28 I just saw. It seems impossible to me.

Probably because it is a game and numbers are pretty much made up on the spot.

Since the NS world is so large it shouldn't matter what you sell your oil at there is always buyers wanting your oil, so you will sell it.

[Dostanuot Loj]

BC: It's easy, they sell in smaller barrels.

[Turkish Federation]

BC: It's easy, they sell in smaller barrels.

It's not a barrel in that case...

[Serbian_Soviet_Union]

Blackhelm has to face it that there is always going to be competition and if the corporation wishes to eliminate or undermine other competitors, it should do so through business and corporate practices such as advertisement, lowering the price down inorder to compete against other low price oil competitors and create a corporation favourable in the international market and why we should purchass oil from this corporation and not the other. A nation can plan an invasion however if under circumstances that it happen to be that a nation as large as 8 billion to plan an invasion against a nation of 800 million for the sake of selling cheap oil and the reason for Blackhelm is to steal other nation's resources, the other nation has the rights to role play or to simply ignore the invasion if the nation such as myself was to match against a nation of 8 billion, with an economy of frightening. The best defense is to ignore. Others have done it, many more will continue to use the ignore if the nation is no match against the invader unless otherwise having guarentee's that other nations will jump into your aid, help your nation through military as such etc.. Otherwise best and only solution is to ignore.

[Blackhelm Confederacy]

BC: It's easy, they sell in smaller barrels.

This is the only answer I can see. The other guys have yet to actually answer the question.

[Bluth Corporation]

The costs involved with extracting oil are relatively static...market price is almost entirely a function of supply and demand.

The price of oil on the NS markets is still well above what the break-even point would be for a barrel of oil in the real world.

[Blackhelm Confederacy]

Blackhelm has to face it that there is always going to be competition and if the corporation wishes to eliminate or undermine other competitors, it should do so through business and corporate practices such as advertisement, lowering the price down inorder to compete against other low price oil competitors and create a corporation favourable in the international market and why we should purchass oil from this corporation and not the other. A nation can plan an invasion however if under circumstances that it happen to be that a nation as large as 8 billion to plan an invasion against a nation of 800 million for the sake of selling cheap oil and the reason for Blackhelm is to steal other nation's resources, the other nation has the rights to role play or to simply ignore the invasion if the nation such as myself was to match against a nation of 8 billion, with an economy of frightening. The best defense is to ignore.

Lowering the price to certain points eliminates profit, which is the goal of a corporation. Now if you could kindly state how your nation is successlully turning a profit rather than just spewing out how I am unable to compete in the international market, this would all go along much more smoothly.

[Blouman Empire]

This is the only answer I can see. The other guys have yet to actually answer the question.

I answered the question.

[Serbian_Soviet_Union]

Blackhelm has to face it that there is always going to be competition and if the corporation wishes to eliminate or undermine other competitors, it should do so through business and corporate practices such as advertisement, lowering the price down inorder to compete against other low price oil competitors and create a corporation favourable in the international market and why we should purchass oil from this corporation and not the other. A nation can plan an invasion however if under circumstances that it happen to be that a nation as large as 8 billion to plan an invasion against a nation of 800 million for the sake of selling cheap oil and the reason for Blackhelm is to steal other nation's resources, the other nation has the rights to role play or to simply ignore the invasion if the nation such as myself was to match against a nation of 8 billion, with an economy of frightening. The best defense is to ignore.

Lowering the price to certain points eliminates profit, which is the goal of a corporation. Now if you could kindly state how your nation is successlully turning a profit rather than just spewing out how I am unable to compete in the international market, this would all go along much more smoothly.

My prices are 30 dollars per barrel as opposed to the Coalition Oil selling a barrel at a price of 28 dollars.

[Blackhelm Confederacy]

This is the only answer I can see. The other guys have yet to actually answer the question.

I answered the question.

Yes, but I was looking for a kind of answer that is not just "I make my oil cheeper cuz I can in my mind!" This is virtually the same as a noob saying "I haz ubertanks that kill all uz!" except it is in a business world, not a military one. It is stat wank, pure and simple.

[Blackhelm Confederacy]

Once again, SSU dodges the question at hand.

[Turkish Federation]

TurkishOil is funded by the State, and operating costs, expected profits aren't that high.

[Blouman Empire]

if the nation such as myself was to match against a nation of 8 billion, with an economy of frightening.

Just to clarify, the economy thing you see at on your nation page refers to the amount of economic freedom, as opposed to the size of the economy.

[Ralkovia]

BC you have little hope in winning in this thing. Most of these people don't actually spend time thinking about all the money that goes in to pumping out oil and just pull a random number out of their ass or in this case lower their number.
What BC does was quite common in the day. What do you think fueled the imperialist powers of Britain, France, America, etc. resources and land. Have you ever heard of the British West India trading company they colonized parts of America. These are points but I am not putting the time or effort into supporting them mostly because I know people will bicker on and on.

[Serbian_Soviet_Union]

Once again, SSU dodges the question at hand.

What is the question that your asking?? Hasn't the answer already been given?? It's around every single corner and even under your nose. For the same reason why the Coalition Oil was formed, by the same reason why this has set a precedent for many other nation's to sell oil at a cheap price.

[Blouman Empire]

Yes, but I was looking for a kind of answer that is not just "I make my oil cheeper cuz I can in my mind!" This is virtually the same as a noob saying "I haz ubertanks that kill all uz!" except it is in a business world, not a military one. It is stat wank, pure and simple.

And that is probably all it is.

After all when people say $28 what dollar are we referring to here? They could be talking about their dollars when converted into your dollars is about the same as what you sell it for.

Since how much people sell oil for hardly matters to the same extent as saying I have 20 million tanks because frankly the NS market is unlimited.

[Serbian_Soviet_Union]

OOC: I believe that the only person having problems with all of this is Blackhelm Confederacy. By the way the exchange rate according to NS tracker is D$1 = NS$1.6001