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Postby Romextly » Wed Oct 28, 2020 6:29 pm

The United States of Ibica wrote:
Romextly wrote:What do you mean by "where each nation pays in a percentage based on the size of their economy,"


A percentage of the operating costs. The soldiers themselves would continue being paid by the military they are part of, but the fuel, munitions, and administration of the force would be covered by the IFTC, with a fund paid into by member nations, based of the size of their economies. So that each nation could afford the cost, and the costs would be proportionate to the impact of trade on each nation's economy.

That's pretty fair

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Postby Nova Kartago » Wed Oct 28, 2020 6:43 pm

The United States of Ibica wrote:
Romextly wrote:What do you mean by "where each nation pays in a percentage based on the size of their economy,"


A percentage of the operating costs. The soldiers themselves would continue being paid by the military they are part of, but the fuel, munitions, and administration of the force would be covered by the IFTC, with a fund paid into by member nations, based of the size of their economies. So that each nation could afford the cost, and the costs would be proportionate to the impact of trade on each nation's economy.



I do not support the rotating system because of the uneven balance of power in the member states
There are countries that are militarily strong and others other than that, and there are countries that have experiences against piracy and others in regular war, and this will lead to disparities and the pirates may exploit this loophole, I suggest a joint defense where all member states participate under the banner of the highest ranking officer in Navy a certain country that we choose

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Postby Romextly » Wed Oct 28, 2020 6:47 pm

Nova Kartago wrote:
The United States of Ibica wrote:
A percentage of the operating costs. The soldiers themselves would continue being paid by the military they are part of, but the fuel, munitions, and administration of the force would be covered by the IFTC, with a fund paid into by member nations, based of the size of their economies. So that each nation could afford the cost, and the costs would be proportionate to the impact of trade on each nation's economy.



I do not support the rotating system because of the uneven balance of power in the member states
There are countries that are militarily strong and others other than that, and there are countries that have experiences against piracy and others in regular war, and this will lead to disparities and the pirates may exploit this loophole, I suggest a joint defense where all member states participate under the banner of the highest ranking officer in Navy a certain country that we choose

You both have good points. How about we put in in the polls. I feel like Florida in elections, a swing state.

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Postby South Cayriya » Wed Oct 28, 2020 6:47 pm

Nova Kartago wrote:
The United States of Ibica wrote:
A percentage of the operating costs. The soldiers themselves would continue being paid by the military they are part of, but the fuel, munitions, and administration of the force would be covered by the IFTC, with a fund paid into by member nations, based of the size of their economies. So that each nation could afford the cost, and the costs would be proportionate to the impact of trade on each nation's economy.



I do not support the rotating system because of the uneven balance of power in the member states
There are countries that are militarily strong and others other than that, and there are countries that have experiences against piracy and others in regular war, and this will lead to disparities and the pirates may exploit this loophole, I suggest a joint defense where all member states participate under the banner of the highest ranking officer in Navy a certain country that we choose


By voting?
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Postby Romextly » Wed Oct 28, 2020 6:50 pm

I say put it in the polls

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Postby Nova Kartago » Wed Oct 28, 2020 6:52 pm

South Cayriya wrote:
Nova Kartago wrote:

I do not support the rotating system because of the uneven balance of power in the member states
There are countries that are militarily strong and others other than that, and there are countries that have experiences against piracy and others in regular war, and this will lead to disparities and the pirates may exploit this loophole, I suggest a joint defense where all member states participate under the banner of the highest ranking officer in Navy a certain country that we choose


By voting?


Wait, maybe The United States of Ibica has another idea or opinion

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Postby The United States of Ibica » Wed Oct 28, 2020 6:53 pm

Nova Kartago wrote:
The United States of Ibica wrote:
A percentage of the operating costs. The soldiers themselves would continue being paid by the military they are part of, but the fuel, munitions, and administration of the force would be covered by the IFTC, with a fund paid into by member nations, based of the size of their economies. So that each nation could afford the cost, and the costs would be proportionate to the impact of trade on each nation's economy.



I do not support the rotating system because of the uneven balance of power in the member states
There are countries that are militarily strong and others other than that, and there are countries that have experiences against piracy and others in regular war, and this will lead to disparities and the pirates may exploit this loophole, I suggest a joint defense where all member states participate under the banner of the highest ranking officer in Navy a certain country that we choose


Under the system I proposed all members capable of participating would be involved at all times. The rotating commanding officer would be more a ceremonial role that would focus on the administrative side. Meanwhile the more experienced officers in the groups of ships would oversee the actual operations. The rotating commanding officer would serve more to demonstrate equality in the force among its members.


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Postby Romextly » Wed Oct 28, 2020 6:55 pm

first we need to find someone with a piracy problem.

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Postby Romextly » Wed Oct 28, 2020 6:55 pm

And how do we determine how much to put in the fund

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Postby South Cayriya » Wed Oct 28, 2020 6:55 pm

Romextly wrote:first we need to find someone with a piracy problem.

dont think anyone here does
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Postby The United States of Ibica » Wed Oct 28, 2020 7:06 pm

''It does appear that piracy does not affect the shores of any of our members, or at least that none of them have spoken up if so. However trade between our nations does not only go along our own shores. Perhaps the Maritime Security Force would be tasked with a patrolling international trade routes, and partnering with other organizations to protect free trade. Perhaps having an international helpline available so that the MSF could respond to reports of privacy from non members as well. As that would also serve our own interests.

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Postby Hebitaka » Wed Oct 28, 2020 9:03 pm

The United States of Ibica wrote:
Romextly wrote:What do you mean by "where each nation pays in a percentage based on the size of their economy,"


A percentage of the operating costs. The soldiers themselves would continue being paid by the military they are part of, but the fuel, munitions, and administration of the force would be covered by the IFTC, with a fund paid into by member nations, based of the size of their economies. So that each nation could afford the cost, and the costs would be proportionate to the impact of trade on each nation's economy.


David Roberts Shows some Interest
"And what would be the percentage. Would it be fixed or changing according to time, region and situation?"
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Postby The United States of Ibica » Wed Oct 28, 2020 9:28 pm

Hebitaka wrote:
The United States of Ibica wrote:
A percentage of the operating costs. The soldiers themselves would continue being paid by the military they are part of, but the fuel, munitions, and administration of the force would be covered by the IFTC, with a fund paid into by member nations, based of the size of their economies. So that each nation could afford the cost, and the costs would be proportionate to the impact of trade on each nation's economy.


David Roberts Shows some Interest
"And what would be the percentage. Would it be fixed or changing according to time, region and situation?"


"It could be fluctuating based on each members economy at set intervals, say, updated once a year."

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Postby Hebitaka » Wed Oct 28, 2020 9:59 pm

"Alright" nods Robert, "Since we are already talking about the safety of the routes, I don't think navy would be enough. We should have a separate specially trained unit for battling the pirates and have special arms and ships. The ships should be more reliable than the navy ones as most of the battles would take place away from the shores in midwater, and separate safety measures like jet capsules for emergency escapes from such situations."
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Postby The Union of British North America » Wed Oct 28, 2020 10:17 pm

Nova Kartago wrote:
The United States of Ibica wrote:
A percentage of the operating costs. The soldiers themselves would continue being paid by the military they are part of, but the fuel, munitions, and administration of the force would be covered by the IFTC, with a fund paid into by member nations, based of the size of their economies. So that each nation could afford the cost, and the costs would be proportionate to the impact of trade on each nation's economy.



I do not support the rotating system because of the uneven balance of power in the member states
There are countries that are militarily strong and others other than that, and there are countries that have experiences against piracy and others in regular war, and this will lead to disparities and the pirates may exploit this loophole, I suggest a joint defense where all member states participate under the banner of the highest ranking officer in Navy a certain country that we choose


Mr. David Mason of the NAU raises a pointed finger up in the air to speak. "Ladies and gentlemen, on behalf of the Prime Minister and His Britannic Majesty's North American Government, we appreciate the opportunity to expand our trade with other nations to help them up and to foster strong connections to promote world peace. The NAU and the United Commonwealth wants to help its own members and entrepreneurs branch out to non-members of the UC. Perhaps the NAU and the UC can help out initially with developmental aid to low-income countries in their agricultural sectors in as well as reasonable reductions in our protection of our agricultural sectors. Technical aid to nations in producing important commodities such as grain and corn while the NAU will reduce quotas somewhat. We hope this can foster some great business and trade relationships.

As to the problem of piracy and illegal trafficking, the Royal North American Navy can contribute to a common security force. A couple light capital ships for the trade routes, and cooperation among NAU general police services and foreign customs and maritime law enforcement services to combat piracy."
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Postby South Cayriya » Thu Oct 29, 2020 12:26 pm

“Yes, I am sure we are all aware.”
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Postby Nova Kartago » Thu Oct 29, 2020 12:34 pm

The following were added to the list of those invited to the conference:

- Riyana Kumar, Minister of Trade in South Cayriya
- Brandon Gates, Minister of Trade in Hopal
- Alex Häfeli, Minister of Trade in Empirical Switzerland
- Dennistrein Arvteda, Minister of Trade in Coistashvia

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Postby Nova Kartago » Thu Oct 29, 2020 12:54 pm

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Commenting on Mr. David Mason, we agree to this kind initiative

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Postby Nova Kartago » Thu Oct 29, 2020 1:15 pm

Ikheria wrote:Minister Roman then open the door.
"I very sorry for late. So, i hear yours are discussing about anti-piracy programme, right?"


You are welcome , dont worry then yes :)

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Postby South Cayriya » Thu Oct 29, 2020 1:17 pm

“I also believe everybody is aware of the new Z-Day apocalypse right?”
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Postby Nova Kartago » Thu Oct 29, 2020 1:26 pm

So regarding the Maritime Security Force project, the idea that we came up with is:

- The formation of a joint defense in which all member states participate under the banner of the highest ranking officer in the navy, for a particular country that we choose, I nominate Countesia or The United States of Ibica
- All members capable of participating would be involved at all times as well. The rotating commanding officer would be more a ceremonial role that would focus on the administrative side. Meanwhile the more experienced officers in the groups of ships would oversee the actual operations. The rotating commanding officer would serve more to demonstrate equality in the force among its members.
- Fuel, ammunition and force management will be covered by IFTC, with funding to be paid by member states, based on the size of their economies updated once a year, and I am proposing a percentage of GDP for all member states.

And we have the following services and initiatives:

- 1 cruiser and 2 destroyers from Romextly
- A couple light capital ships for the trade routes, and cooperation among NAU general police services and foreign customs and maritime law enforcement services to combat piracy.

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