Slave trade internationally

[Nickel Empire]

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The Nation of Corpa declare that they slaves trade are fair and legal. Otherwise, the Corpa leader says that the WU are a terror organization, spreading anything they want to other nations. The declaration may cause controversy and tension among the WU and Corpa.

This is officially becoming unacceptable. The WU is a peacekeeping region that respects the laws of both the WA and the Union itself. Internationally, this form of human trafficking is entirely illegal: as are the threats to kill infants. I refuse to accept this as an option. However, I am willing to speak diplomatically with the slave nations and negotiate new terms of economic support, to wean aforementioned slave nations off of slavery.

What if you have a mixture of slavery and non-slavery for workers?

[Cruxa]

This is officially becoming unacceptable. The WU is a peacekeeping region that respects the laws of both the WA and the Union itself. Internationally, this form of human trafficking is entirely illegal: as are the threats to kill infants. I refuse to accept this as an option. However, I am willing to speak diplomatically with the slave nations and negotiate new terms of economic support, to wean aforementioned slave nations off of slavery.

What if you have a mixture of slavery and non-slavery for workers?

I believe it is highly possible to remove the implementation of slavery and salvage your economy.

[Corpa]

I love the proposal to condem corpa so I decided to kill 39 people for every nation that votes to condem me.I also will send you there corpses.I also know how much you love slave labor groups so I created The Slavers Union viewtopic.php?f=6&t=360843. Love corpa

[The Rpublic of Ireland]

I love the proposal to condem corpa so I decided to kill 39 people for every nation that votes to condem me.I also will send you there corpses.I also know how much you love slave labor groups so I created The Slavers Union viewtopic.php?f=6&t=360843. Love corpa

Your aircraft, naval vessels, and land vehicles have no reason to enter the airspace of any WU nation. Doing so eill result in them being attacked and all immigrants residing in WU nations to be held as PoW's

[Cruxa]

I love the proposal to condem corpa so I decided to kill 39 people for every nation that votes to condem me.I also will send you there corpses.I also know how much you love slave labor groups so I created The Slavers Union viewtopic.php?f=6&t=360843. Love corpa

Your aircraftm naval vessels, and land vehicles have no reason to enter the airspace of any WU nation. Doing so eill result in them being attacked and all immigrants residing in WU nations to be held as PoW's

On top of this, any attempt to bring any form of corpse near my nation will cause heavy blockading to commence.

[Brasil Novo]

Slavers union is a criminal organization. All their members need to be punished.

[The Hairy Men of God]

Leaders of the nations, listen and understand. Imposing your morality on a country that is not your own and then trying to bully the nation into submission is no less than Terrorism.

Corpa has made many allies and surely for their own sake they shall back corpa, If you really care you would stop harrassing them before they commit a genocide to prove a point.

[The Rpublic of Ireland]

They started threatening WU member nations way before we did..

[Palmyrion]

How about Corpa just starts to turn the slaves into paid workers with standard pay, lodging, and food? That's it. How do we get it down their throats? Leave it to me.

[Common Territories]

How about Corpa just starts to turn the slaves into paid workers with standard pay, lodging, and food? That's it. How do we get it down their throats? Leave it to me.

Those are called workers, not slaves. Defeats the entire point - nay, it ignores it.

[Palmyrion]

How about Corpa just starts to turn the slaves into paid workers with standard pay, lodging, and food? That's it. How do we get it down their throats? Leave it to me.

Those are called workers, not slaves. Defeats the entire point - nay, it ignores it.

I guess that's my point. You turn those slaves into workers with decent pay and living conditions. That should stop nations from hounding down on them.

[The Hairy Men of God]

Those are called workers, not slaves. Defeats the entire point - nay, it ignores it.

I guess that's my point. You turn those slaves into workers with decent pay and living conditions. That should stop nations from hounding down on them.

Or maybe Corpa can just continue keeping them as slaves, as that is their right as a sovereign nation.

[The Rpublic of Ireland]

I guess that's my point. You turn those slaves into workers with decent pay and living conditions. That should stop nations from hounding down on them.

Or maybe Corpa can just continue keeping them as slaves, as that is their right as a sovereign nation.

Too little, too late. The Worldwide Union passed a ruling stating that because of Corpa's threats, the WU will be initiating sanctions and blockades on Corpa until they end their trading, which is a direct violation of HUMAN RIGHTS

[Common Territories]

Those are called workers, not slaves. Defeats the entire point - nay, it ignores it.

I guess that's my point. You turn those slaves into workers with decent pay and living conditions. That should stop nations from hounding down on them.

My point is is that making them workers and not slaves is the opposite of what he wills them to be - slaves. He sells slaves and operates a business that does such actions; not a freelance workers storefront. It's like saying back in 1850 that US States with legal slavery should instead also pay their slaves. It doesn't change a thing other then give you that fuzzy feeling of 'I did better for the NS world, yay!'. He could pay them and give them a nice space to live but why would he? They're slaves, not citizens. It would be like the Egg/Chicken industry being demanded to make each chick a nice home, being fed better, and be getting paid of the eggs they lay and death benefits to their surviving chicks once they are slaughtered. Do you see the futility in this yet?

Or maybe Corpa can just continue keeping them as slaves, as that is their right as a sovereign nation.

Too little, too late. The Worldwide Union passed a ruling stating that because of Corpa's threats, the WU will be initiating sanctions and blockades on Corpa until they end their trading, which is a direct violation of HUMAN RIGHTS

Your region has little to no right or authority to be deciding what policies a country in another region does. Quite frankly, I find people who get all outraged over threads like this childish (and by that I mean EVERY DAMN SLAVE STOREFRONT HERE ON GE&T). For example, where was your outrage over the last dozens of slaver threads here throughout the years? Where's your outrage over real slaver scumbags like Scandinvans who more then likely has the worst slavery record of anyone on this website - He's sitting there laughing at how pathetic this slave operation is, vowing to continue his own brutality on his own slavery program. As for me, for example, I've sold weapons to legit and non-legit nations over the year+ and established a PMC before that (which is the largest on this site FYI) which has done far worse then what Corpa dreams to do; that's all my GE&T activity alone that has probably harmed more people IC then his slavery operations - I've done countless evil shit over my career as a writer here on NS that pales many nations here. What im getting at is that I have grown tired of these "I sell slaves. Send reactions to me now" threads where things end up not as an economic RP or storefront but instead develop into a "This guy is bad, he has slaves which make him bad. Lets invade killing millions so they can be liberated!". I suppose slavery is just that soft spot people really dislike to see untouched, cause I've seen, done, and helped to conduct much worse things then Corpa's 2.something million slavery operation without any recourse like this - and im just one of many on this site who's probably played the bad guy role.

Don't get me wrong, im not supporting slavery or Corpa; quite frankly Corpa doesn't deserve the honor of a condemnation badge like many of us wish we had, nor do I care for what the WA or what regions like to preach in terms of their rules. But im frankly sick of slave storefronts getting this kind of attention - it comes off to me like its just one big fish for attention. Im not bashing any side really, im just getting my thoughts out clearly since this thread has been reduced to nothing but an OOC arena.

Now what Corpa should do if he truly just wants to operate this storefront is to ignore cannon all this shit and ban idle chatter here (you can do so by making a request on the Moderation forum to clean the thread and to remove posts that you'd like gone). If he seriously wants this to go forward, meaning he wants the RP, then you guys should handle your affairs in a new thread in the correct place (wars like your blockades in II and economic talks/economic diplomacy either here or in NationStates). If it were me and I didn't care about your region's intentions (which I suppose im already in said position but im not Corpa, so take this advice as a grain of salt if you'd rather not deal with this), I'd not care about an embargo since my country likely has no trade with your region to begin with and a blockade means sending fleets to cover every portion of my sea and air borders. Im not really going to go into detail but I'd squash such an attempt without mercy, or if I didn't want it to happen OOC I'd ignore cannon it. My suggest for Corpa is to choose whether he wants to go through an RP or not and if he does to follow the above suggestions I made above.

[Corpa]

I guess that's my point. You turn those slaves into workers with decent pay and living conditions. That should stop nations from hounding down on them.

My point is is that making them workers and not slaves is the opposite of what he wills them to be - slaves. He sells slaves and operates a business that does such actions; not a freelance workers storefront. It's like saying back in 1850 that US States with legal slavery should instead also pay their slaves. It doesn't change a thing other then give you that fuzzy feeling of 'I did better for the NS world, yay!'. He could pay them and give them a nice space to live but why would he? They're slaves, not citizens. It would be like the Egg/Chicken industry being demanded to make each chick a nice home, being fed better, and be getting paid of the eggs they lay and death benefits to their surviving chicks once they are slaughtered. Do you see the futility in this yet?

Too little, too late. The Worldwide Union passed a ruling stating that because of Corpa's threats, the WU will be initiating sanctions and blockades on Corpa until they end their trading, which is a direct violation of HUMAN RIGHTS

Your region has little to no right or authority to be deciding what policies a country in another region does. Quite frankly, I find people who get all outraged over threads like this childish (and by that I mean EVERY DAMN SLAVE STOREFRONT HERE ON GE&T). For example, where was your outrage over the last dozens of slaver threads here throughout the years? Where's your outrage over real slaver scumbags like Scandinvans who more then likely has the worst slavery record of anyone on this website - He's sitting there laughing at how pathetic this slave operation is, vowing to continue his own brutality on his own slavery program. As for me, for example, I've sold weapons to legit and non-legit nations over the year+ and established a PMC before that (which is the largest on this site FYI) which has done far worse then what Corpa dreams to do; that's all my GE&T activity alone that has probably harmed more people IC then his slavery operations - I've done countless evil shit over my career as a writer here on NS that pales many nations here. What im getting at is that I have grown tired of these "I sell slaves. Send reactions to me now" threads where things end up not as an economic RP or storefront but instead develop into a "This guy is bad, he has slaves which make him bad. Lets invade killing millions so they can be liberated!". I suppose slavery is just that soft spot people really dislike to see untouched, cause I've seen, done, and helped to conduct much worse things then Corpa's 2.something million slavery operation without any recourse like this - and im just one of many on this site who's probably played the bad guy role.

Don't get me wrong, im not supporting slavery or Corpa; quite frankly Corpa doesn't deserve the honor of a condemnation badge like many of us wish we had, nor do I care for what the WA or what regions like to preach in terms of their rules. But im frankly sick of slave storefronts getting this kind of attention - it comes off to me like its just one big fish for attention. Im not bashing any side really, im just getting my thoughts out clearly since this thread has been reduced to nothing but an OOC arena.

Now what Corpa should do if he truly just wants to operate this storefront is to ignore cannon all this shit and ban idle chatter here (you can do so by making a request on the Moderation forum to clean the thread and to remove posts that you'd like gone). If he seriously wants this to go forward, meaning he wants the RP, then you guys should handle your affairs in a new thread in the correct place (wars like your blockades in II and economic talks/economic diplomacy either here or in NationStates). If it were me and I didn't care about your region's intentions (which I suppose im already in said position but im not Corpa, so take this advice as a grain of salt if you'd rather not deal with this), I'd not care about an embargo since my country likely has no trade with your region to begin with and a blockade means sending fleets to cover every portion of my sea and air borders. Im not really going to go into detail but I'd squash such an attempt without mercy, or if I didn't want it to happen OOC I'd ignore cannon it. My suggest for Corpa is to choose whether he wants to go through an RP or not and if he does to follow the above suggestions I made above.

Oh you,

Also guys if want to talk about me so much please link my storefront.

[Palmyrion]

Dish this out into the International Incidents, not GE&T.

[Allanea]

For example, where was your outrage over the last dozens of slaver threads here throughout the years?

Hello?

Where's your outrage over real slaver scumbags like Scandinvans who more then likely has the worst slavery record of anyone on this website -

My nation kidnapped Scandinvans' prince and tortured him, then we extradited him to another anti-slaver country where he is imprisoned to this day. I also founded the Amistad Declaration on Slavery and the Rights of Man, which everyone here is invited to sign.

I have also waged successful campaigns against Kraven and Pudu, and participated (jointly with other players) in the destruction of OHTO and the Slaver Union [at least I think it was called that].

So while I am not OOC outraged by this organization I'm totally up for some RP if any of them takes me up on it.

[Menelmacar]

Where's your outrage over real slaver scumbags like Scandinvans who more then likely has the worst slavery record of anyone on this website - He's sitting there laughing at how pathetic this slave operation is, vowing to continue his own brutality on his own slavery program.

I've been openly willing and eager to RP a war against Scandinvans for over ten years, in fact against anyone (or everyone!) in Gholgoth. My Prefect of War explicitly called them out. So far all have refused OOCly. They're terrified of me.

[Allanea]

More to the point, I have planned, declared, and commenced waging (the threads are still out there) war against the entirety of Gholgoth. Though they have agreed to the RP, they have ended up stopping posting to the threads within a week of the RP's start, and gave no explanation of this.

[Palmyrion]

More to the point, I have planned, declared, and commenced waging (the threads are still out there) war against the entirety of Gholgoth. Though they have agreed to the RP, they have ended up stopping posting to the threads within a week of the RP's start, and gave no explanation of this.

Count me in. You might as well need all the help you can get,

[Menelmacar]

More to the point, I have planned, declared, and commenced waging (the threads are still out there) war against the entirety of Gholgoth. Though they have agreed to the RP, they have ended up stopping posting to the threads within a week of the RP's start, and gave no explanation of this.

Count me in. You might as well need all the help you can get,

You're likely to be disappointed. Few slavers, not a courageous lot in general, and indeed few regions overall, surpass Gholgoth for its consistent record of glorious cowardice. I don't anticipate those RP's resuming anytime soon if ever, they're years and years dead.

[Allanea]

More to the point, I have planned, declared, and commenced waging (the threads are still out there) war against the entirety of Gholgoth. Though they have agreed to the RP, they have ended up stopping posting to the threads within a week of the RP's start, and gave no explanation of this.

Count me in. You might as well need all the help you can get,

This was years ago. The threads in question are dead.

[Palmyrion]

We pressure them into RPing, yes? We destroy their ships like crazy. Bombard their garrisons like there is no tomorrow. Kidnap slavers' relatives.

And that acts of kidnapping the Scandinvan prince, Al? Pull it off again nicely, and again, and again, so that you can pressure the Scandinvans into a war with you.

[Allanea]

Or, I will not try to pressure someone who doesn't like war RPs into a war with me.

[Common Territories]

I will be happy to bring this thread to their attention (I know some including Scand) who are still around who'd love to hear how Gholgoth is a bunch of cowards. Im not going to speak fully on the discussion I did have with Scand on the numerous discussions above, but I will say you got OOC agreements for said claims - the kidnapping, for example, was not done out of skill but out of an agreement you two came to. Im no representative of Gholgoth, granted I have fought on the same side of many of them for years, but I do want to ask you stop derailing this thread with bashing of their members; I can't assure or enlighten about activity they may or may not have either. If you want to war with Corpa or Scand, im sure they'll happily discuss a thread to take place sometime. At this rate, I'd happily join Scand's side even knowing his slave record simply because I dislike the attitude im seeing towards a friend.

Regardless of what im saying. I will contact Scand myself, but if you lot want a war RP so bad with the above slave nations, they're a TG inbox away.