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Postby DANIAL2 » Thu Feb 06, 2014 4:51 am

hi guys plz buy flying aircraft carriers 1 fac price is 1 billion$

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Postby Neo Philippine Empire » Thu Feb 06, 2014 5:29 am

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Postby Mitheldalond » Thu Feb 06, 2014 10:36 am

How big is it? How many aircraft can it hold? What kinds of aircraft can operate from it? Are there fail safes in place to allow it to land safely if one or more of the rotors are damaged? Where and how can it land? What safety features are there to keep people from falling off or being sucked into the giant rotors? How does the massive airflow and turbulence caused by the rotors affect aircraft takeoff and landing? What kind of fuel does it use? How often does it have to land to refuel? What is its range when fully fueled? What is its operational altitude? Its maximum altitude? What is its top speed? What defenses does it have? Why are they so cheap? Anyone else have any more questions to add?

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Postby Polski Swiety Imperium » Thu Feb 06, 2014 10:38 am

Well take everything.
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Postby New Aerios » Thu Feb 06, 2014 1:28 pm

hai all u guise lol we alreddy hav flying arcraft carriurs lolololol butt we wil sel them 2 u for 999 million dolarz that is a dolar cheepar than teh op lololololoL!!!!!1!!111!!

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Postby The Aspari Syndicate » Thu Feb 06, 2014 1:33 pm

Where are they manufactured? Do you offer domestic production rights for them, and if so, how much do they cost? How long can we expect construction to take if we purchase one, and if you have spares on hand, how long until they can believered?

If you can answer these and Mitheldalond's questions, I will absolutely buy from you. As it is though, there isn't enough information to make a good judgement on the quality of the product.
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Postby Dewhurst-Narculis » Thu Feb 06, 2014 7:14 pm

To be a voice of reason, it's cheaper and considerably safer to invest in mid flight refueling than a flying aircraft carrier which seems very unlikely looking at the largest helicopter RL had rotors only a bit smaller and could only lift a few dozen tons, that aircraft carrier looks to be landbound with it's immense mass. Also what is the weakest point of a helicopter? The rotor! As is the "flying aircraft carrier's". (hence to this day the airship ironically remains the largest airborne aircraft carrier) one good burst of 20mm or even a small missile would doom such a rotor carrier.

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Postby Icatus » Thu Feb 06, 2014 7:17 pm

Not to be offensive, but I think there might be a problem if your opponent has a half-decent air force...

I don't think that would be very cost-effective either. It very well could be, but I have a hard time picturing how I could use that effectively and cheaply... It has to spend fuel to remain in the air, while I could have aircraft carriers simply anchor in the water and use no fuel...

Good idea, though. Just needs a bit more thought put into it, and that might be PMT. Please read the stickies, if you haven't yet.
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Postby Eemeria » Thu Feb 06, 2014 7:51 pm

OOC: These Flying Aircraft Carriers may not be as unrealistic as you may think. The Eemerian Air Force operates about twelve of these (albeit upgraded due to obvious flaws, some stated by above posts) and they operate quite efficiently. They use some of the same power systems seen in nuclear powered naval vessels which eliminates SOME of the refueling issues. Now yes our nations leans to PMT more so then MT which can lead some MT nations to seeing these as unfeasible. I personally think if the thread was reworked a bit then these items could make much more sense.
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Postby Pharthan » Fri Feb 07, 2014 10:47 am

Eemeria wrote:OOC: These Flying Aircraft Carriers may not be as unrealistic as you may think. The Eemerian Air Force operates about twelve of these (albeit upgraded due to obvious flaws, some stated by above posts) and they operate quite efficiently. They use some of the same power systems seen in nuclear powered naval vessels which eliminates SOME of the refueling issues. Now yes our nations leans to PMT more so then MT which can lead some MT nations to seeing these as unfeasible. I personally think if the thread was reworked a bit then these items could make much more sense.

((The nuclear reactors would either have to be very different, or you'd have to carry a lot of water with you and have an efficient way of cooling it quickly.))
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Postby Eemeria » Fri Feb 07, 2014 10:57 am

Pharthan wrote:
Eemeria wrote:OOC: These Flying Aircraft Carriers may not be as unrealistic as you may think. The Eemerian Air Force operates about twelve of these (albeit upgraded due to obvious flaws, some stated by above posts) and they operate quite efficiently. They use some of the same power systems seen in nuclear powered naval vessels which eliminates SOME of the refueling issues. Now yes our nations leans to PMT more so then MT which can lead some MT nations to seeing these as unfeasible. I personally think if the thread was reworked a bit then these items could make much more sense.

((The nuclear reactors would either have to be very different, or you'd have to carry a lot of water with you and have an efficient way of cooling it quickly.))


ooc: yes as I said. We're more PMT then MT. Technologies different with us. You've seen our love for PMT seeing as you've worked with us before xD. So yes realistically 2014 these wouldn't work.
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Postby United States of Devonta » Fri Feb 07, 2014 11:02 am

Eemeria wrote:
Pharthan wrote:((The nuclear reactors would either have to be very different, or you'd have to carry a lot of water with you and have an efficient way of cooling it quickly.))


ooc: yes as I said. We're more PMT then MT. Technologies different with us. You've seen our love for PMT seeing as you've worked with us before xD. So yes realistically 2014 these wouldn't work.


(Occ: Even in PMT maybe like plus 75 years they won't have flying carriers. For many reasons technology want be they're still. Also the practicality of having one is useless because of the danger and modern air defenses. Any air carrier would be more then easy to shoot down. Lets just say many would die. I don't think we will ever actually see a flying carrier in are lifetime. I'm 15.
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Postby Eemeria » Fri Feb 07, 2014 11:11 am

United States Of Devonta wrote:
Eemeria wrote:
ooc: yes as I said. We're more PMT then MT. Technologies different with us. You've seen our love for PMT seeing as you've worked with us before xD. So yes realistically 2014 these wouldn't work.


(Occ: Even in PMT maybe like plus 75 years they won't have flying carriers. For many reasons technology want be they're still. Also the practicality of having one is useless because of the danger and modern air defenses. Any air carrier would be more then easy to shoot down. Lets just say many would die. I don't think we will ever actually see a flying carrier in are lifetime. I'm 15.


I'm not going to get into some huge argument about this with you. Are they possible 2014? No. Are they possible in the future? Yes. PMT can express 10 to (for example) 100 years in the future. I personally feel that they will be available in the next 100 years. We may have a difference in opinion and that's fine but I'd rather not start an argument like these threads usually do.
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OOC: Sorry, was I being the troll? I didn't mean to...
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Icatus wrote:OOC: Sorry, was I being the troll? I didn't mean to...

no u werent
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Icatus wrote:OOC: Sorry, was I being the troll? I didn't mean to...


I was pointing out the original poster

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Postby Marsisian » Fri Feb 07, 2014 6:15 pm

I own, like 10,000. The HAC-014 is much better.
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Postby Mizialand » Sat Feb 08, 2014 5:11 am

DANIAL2 wrote:hi guys plz buy flying aircraft carriers 1 fac price is 1 billion$

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Hi there! I understand that you are new to NS. Things might seem confusing at the first glance but once you get acquainted with the basis, the forums are a lot of fun.

First of all, welcome to Global Economics and Trade (GE&T). This is a sub-forum wherein you can browse through, buy and/or sell stuff, merge with other companies and much more - much like real world shops or corporations. Such one liners posts as yours are generally considered as bad RP and attract a lot of criticism. I suggest that you create a storefront first of all before you attempt to sell this product. Imagine that you are the owner of a corporation which sells, in your case, flying aircraft carriers. You won't just manufacture one such carrier, puts its big picture, quote some arbitrary price and expect someone to buy it. Also, being a company you'd manufacture many such carriers and perhaps 3 to 4 other products. Also, you wouldn't see your aircraft carrier for just a billion dollars. Modern aircraft carriers cost around $4.5 billion dollars in construction alone. You are selling something that weighs tons and flies and is so very technologically advance. You'd have to think about the profits too.

I advise you to go through Guide to creating a storefront, and Guide to creating a product. You might also want to see this to understand the various tech levels (Future Tech or FT in your case).

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Postby Australian rePublic » Sat Feb 08, 2014 6:38 am

Mitheldalond wrote:How big is it? How many aircraft can it hold? What kinds of aircraft can operate from it? Are there fail safes in place to allow it to land safely if one or more of the rotors are damaged? Where and how can it land? What safety features are there to keep people from falling off or being sucked into the giant rotors? How does the massive airflow and turbulence caused by the rotors affect aircraft takeoff and landing? What kind of fuel does it use? How often does it have to land to refuel? What is its range when fully fueled? What is its operational altitude? Its maximum altitude? What is its top speed? What defenses does it have? Why are they so cheap? Anyone else have any more questions to add?

Yes, which tech level (though I assume FT)? How many planes can it support? How much weight can it handle? When fully stocked/supplied, how many crew can it support? For how long? Can it remain stationary mid-flight? How does it take off? Can it be used on the ground? What are the benifits of it flying? How armed could it be? How good is it's defence, What temperature range can it handle? Is it verticle take-off/landing? (If not) how steep can it go? Can it re-fuel planes? How would planes stick to it during take-off and landing? How many planes and helicopters does it hold? Size (length, breath and height), how long is the runway? How would people escape if there were a disaster mid-air, how many people are requred to operate it? Is it easy to operate in comparison with other aircraft, how much free space does it require? How heigh could it go? How effective are radors? Could it get detected by foreign rador? How much fuel does it use? What is it's fuel capacity? How much does operating it cost?
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