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Oceangoing Pirates
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Postby Oceangoing Pirates » Sat Sep 26, 2009 2:32 pm

I'm kinda leaning towards Takaram here. I don't think they would fit in.

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Postby Carbarosia » Sat Sep 26, 2009 2:38 pm

Ok then, no drones.
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Postby Takaram » Sat Sep 26, 2009 2:39 pm

Carbarosia wrote:
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Oceangoing Pirates wrote:I know what the words mean. I was looking for more depth here, like are they MT? What kind of weapons do they have, etc


The subs have torpedo launchers and the mini ships and deployable ones have x40 Machine Guns.The light drones have 1 Light machine gun and the heavy ones have two heavy machine guns.The aircrafts are equipped with 2 heavy guns and 2 rocket launchers.


ooc: Wait, fully automated combat drones, and this is MT? Not likely


You do know that some nations invest alot in science don't you?


Indeed, and Takaram is one of them, but MT is basically what exists now, and completely autonomous drones are beyond modern technology. Not far, but far enough.

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Postby Seculartopia » Sun Sep 27, 2009 9:07 am

Takaram wrote:
Carbarosia wrote:
Takaram wrote:
Carbarosia wrote:
Oceangoing Pirates wrote:I know what the words mean. I was looking for more depth here, like are they MT? What kind of weapons do they have, etc


The subs have torpedo launchers and the mini ships and deployable ones have x40 Machine Guns.The light drones have 1 Light machine gun and the heavy ones have two heavy machine guns.The aircrafts are equipped with 2 heavy guns and 2 rocket launchers.


ooc: Wait, fully automated combat drones, and this is MT? Not likely


You do know that some nations invest alot in science don't you?


Indeed, and Takaram is one of them, but MT is basically what exists now, and completely autonomous drones are beyond modern technology. Not far, but far enough.


MT covers theoretically to the extent of the greatest scientist advances today in RL.
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Postby Vault 10 » Sun Sep 27, 2009 11:22 am

Seculartopia wrote:MT covers theoretically to the extent of the greatest scientist advances today in RL.

No.

Strict-MT, or Realistic-MT, or True-MT covers what exists IRL already, or what you could get built IRL this year (2009), if 2-5 years ago (2004-2007) you shelled out a number of megabucks and placed an order with a RL company.

High-MT, or loose MT, or general MT covers:
1) Everything covered by Strict-MT;
2) What we can actually see built IRL within ~5 years (2014) and deployed within ~10;
3) What could have been built by about now IRL, if some big nation bothered to start the project 5-30 years ago.

Most general MT stuff like tanks is explained by the 3rd clause, although aircraft usually fall under the 2nd.


The "greatest scientist advances" are PMT and Near-FT, since they won't be used until 2050-2100 and beyond.
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Postby Hahklallah » Tue Sep 29, 2009 9:31 pm

((OOC: Not much of a Battleship but could verymuch be used as a Capital Ship :lol: ))

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Early plans of the Geryon Class Landing Platform Dock


The Geryon Class L.P.D is an Amphibious Transport Dock (A.T.D) also called the Landing Platform Dock built for amphibious warfare and Humanitarian missions. Amphibious transport docks perform the mission of amphibious transports, amphibious cargo ships, and the older LPDs by incorporating both a flight deck and a well deck that can be ballasted and deballasted to support landing craft or amphibious vehicles.

There are currently fifty-five Geryon Class LPDs under construction and One-hundred in commission as of August 2009; LPDs 156 through 165 are planned, but have not been awarded to a shipyard or all named. The final unit cost for each ship is 950 Billion USD. The class's increased vehicle and substantial cargo carrying capacity will make it a key element of 21st century Amphibious Ready Groups, Expeditionary Strike Groups, or Joint task forces. The 12 ships of the new class integrate the latest in shipbuilding and warfighting technologies to support current and future Marine Corps aircraft, the Expeditionary Fighting Vehicles (EFVs) and both air cushion or conventional landing craft. The ship's ability to carry Landing Craft, Air Cushioned (LCACs) and EFVs, the Shipboard Wide Area Network with over 762 fiber optic drops, Total Ship's Training System, Integrated Bridge System, Engineering Control System, and Damage Control System all serve to ensure that sailors and Marines will be able to fully perform their expeditionary warfare missions.

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Type: Amphibious transport dock
Displacement: 24,900 t
Length: 684 ft (208 m)
Beam: 105 ft (32 m)
Draft: 23 ft (7.0 m), full load
Propulsion: Four sequentially turbocharged marine Colt-Pielstick diesel engines, two shafts, 41,600 shp
Speed: In excess of 22 knots (41 km/h)
Boats and landingcraft carried: 2× LCACs (air cushion); or 1× LCU (conventional); and 14× Expeditionary Fighting Vehicles (EFV)
Complement: Crew: 28 officers, 333 enlisted
Landing force: 66 officers, 633 enlisted
Armament: 2× Bushmaster II 30 mm Close in Guns (Can be replaced by 1x 105mm cannons)
2× Rolling Airframe Missile launchers
Several twin M2 Browning Machine Gun turrets
Aircraft carried: Launch or land up to four CH-46 Sea Knight helicopters or four CH-47 Chinook; or up to two MV-22 Osprey tilt rotor aircraft simultaneously with room to spot four MV-22s on deck and one in the hangar
Cost: $950 Billion USD
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Brandonia II
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Postby Brandonia II » Thu Oct 01, 2009 4:56 pm

I need a strong battleship. One that can lead a navy to victory nobody would expect to happen! I need this ship as quick as possible and every time I win a navy battle I'll pay you. ;)

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Postby Gc1mak » Thu Oct 01, 2009 5:08 pm

OOC:If you got the money,buy the Longsword-Class from Lyran Arms,with proper escort the only thing on earth that can destroy it is another Longsword-class(Or nuke,if you really want it destroyed))

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Postby L3 Communications » Thu Oct 01, 2009 5:17 pm

Gc1mak wrote:OOC:If you got the money,buy the Longsword-Class from Lyran Arms,with proper escort the only thing on earth that can destroy it is another Longsword-class(Or nuke,if you really want it destroyed))


((OOC: Or a satellite-launched kinetic kill vehicle, but that's riding the fence on the MT-PMT scale. Some people don't consider it MT and others do. =\

I assume that would something according to VT's "Loose MT" definition, since it could have been deployed if the US actually started researching it more extensively about 20-30 years ago.))
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Postby Willman » Thu Oct 01, 2009 8:10 pm

L3 Communications wrote:
Gc1mak wrote:OOC:If you got the money,buy the Longsword-Class from Lyran Arms,with proper escort the only thing on earth that can destroy it is another Longsword-class(Or nuke,if you really want it destroyed))


((OOC: Or a satellite-launched kinetic kill vehicle, but that's riding the fence on the MT-PMT scale. Some people don't consider it MT and others do. =\

I assume that would something according to VT's "Loose MT" definition, since it could have been deployed if the US actually started researching it more extensively about 20-30 years ago.))

No. Just because its huge, doesn't mean it is indestructable. It is actually fairly easy to kill a ship of the size of the Longsword class, which is why most people don't use anything like that in the first place.
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Gc1mak
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Postby Gc1mak » Thu Oct 01, 2009 10:04 pm

OOC:Actually,the Longsword-class's advantage is that it got loads of weaponry,with proper escort that can protect it from most threat it is going to destroy a fleet by launching 500+Cruise Missiles

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Postby Belkan Provinces » Fri Oct 02, 2009 6:55 am

We can sell you an Admiral Kuznetsov class carrier for 100 million
OOC:the weapons and capabilities are listed on our store site
This is what they look like:

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heres our store: viewtopic.php?f=6&t=17810&p=650323&hilit=Commie+Weapons+for+sale#p650323
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Postby Willman » Fri Oct 02, 2009 12:38 pm

Belkan Provinces wrote:We can sell you an Admiral Kuznetsov class carrier for 100 million
OOC:the weapons and capabilities are listed on our store site
This is what they look like:

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heres our store: viewtopic.php?f=6&t=17810&p=650323&hilit=Commie+Weapons+for+sale#p650323

Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. Carriers cost BILLIONS OF DOLLARS. Not millions. The price of this is so far off its funny as hell.
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Postby Belkan Provinces » Sat Oct 03, 2009 1:52 pm

That's why it was CHEAP weapons for sale, then renamed Commie weapons ...
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Postby Atlaga » Sun Oct 04, 2009 10:11 pm

Your production costs would be immense. Depending on scale here, I wouldn't be surprised if laying the keel exceeded what you're charging for it.

Although I have completely designed my land and air forces, i have not totally designed my Navy. Which storefront is good for high quality naval vessels?
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Postby Mikoyan-Guryevich » Sun Oct 04, 2009 10:31 pm

Try Lyran Arms, Haruspex or Universal Defence. Not only do they sell quality stuff, its also realistic and of their own design.
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