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The Amistad Declaration on Slavery and the Rights of Man

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Postby Allanea » Thu Jun 14, 2012 2:56 pm

As I've said, I'm having issues editing the main post so I'm just using the thread as such as a list of signatories.
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Postby Atalem » Thu Jun 14, 2012 6:33 pm

We must bring your attention to this dastardly operation by those Valkmarian curs!
viewtopic.php?t=185398&f=6&view=unread#unread
Truly, it is a work of evil, and must be stopped soon!

Unfortunately, the Emirate's forces are not yet equipped to intervene, mainly due to the enemy's distance from us!

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Postby Former Wellboneland » Thu Jun 14, 2012 6:35 pm

Atalem wrote:We must bring your attention to this dastardly operation by those Valkmarian curs!
viewtopic.php?t=185398&f=6&view=unread#unread
Truly, it is a work of evil, and must be stopped soon!

Unfortunately, the Emirate's forces are not yet equipped to intervene, mainly due to the enemy's distance from us!

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Postby Allanea » Thu Jun 14, 2012 6:40 pm

I, on the other hand, have posted there.
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Postby Sitalbi » Thu Jun 14, 2012 6:40 pm

Chief of Army, President-Elect, Alexandri Hawkens wishes to sign this.

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Postby Galonica » Thu Jun 14, 2012 7:09 pm

The Confederacy of Galonica supports the Amistad Declaration.

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Postby McNernia » Fri Jun 15, 2012 5:06 am

From:King EMilion IV
To: Who this concerns

I King Emilion IV King of Mcnernia, with the full support of the Government do add my name to the list of signatories of the Amistad decleration. You have the resources of Mcnernias Empire to combat slavery.
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Postby Voegen » Sat Jun 16, 2012 4:56 am

OOC; We adhere to this treaty, please add the following signatories:

King of Voegen, Friedrich Øjrkeld I
Queen of Voegen, Elizabeth Øjrkeld
Prime Minister, William Väsen
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Postby Woodstead » Sun Jun 17, 2012 10:35 am

On behalf of the government which I head: the executive, the legislative, the judiciary, I sign this not only on behalf of our political institutions, but also the citizens of the state which I head.

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Postby Allanea » Sun Jun 17, 2012 10:55 am

We welcome new signatories to the Amistad Declaration.
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Postby Korrodos » Tue Jun 19, 2012 8:11 pm

From: Korrodos

The full weight of our swords, the sweat from our brows and the blood that runs through my people's veins supports this noble declaration.

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Postby Maltropia » Tue Jul 03, 2012 11:13 am

The Royal Kingdom of Maltropia is taking steps to blockade a slaver state which, in addition to the horror of this crime, is defying WA Resolutions by doing so. We encourage other signatories of the Amistad Declaration to follow suit.


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Postby Somali Caliphate » Tue Jul 03, 2012 1:23 pm

We agree to this agreement, but reserve the right to take slaves in war as this is more humane than wholesale slaughter and not doing so will leave us at a disadvantage.
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Postby Urmanian » Tue Jul 03, 2012 1:34 pm

Somali Caliphate wrote:We agree to this agreement, but reserve the right to take slaves in war as this is more humane than wholesale slaughter and not doing so will leave us at a disadvantage.


"You are still a slaver. So, you are in an official state of war with the Herd and all other signatories of the Amistad Declaration.

I still do not understand why are slavers so eager to inform us, the abolitionists, of their crimes themselves...is that some form of national masochism?"


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Postby Maltropia » Tue Jul 03, 2012 2:16 pm

Somali Caliphate wrote:We agree to this agreement, but reserve the right to take slaves in war as this is more humane than wholesale slaughter and not doing so will leave us at a disadvantage.



Communique of the Royal Kingdom of Maltropia

From: Ministry of Foreign Affairs,
Corcaigh Nua,
Royal Kingdom of Maltropia
Date: 3/07/2012 AD
Encryption = None

To: The Somali Caliphate

What sort of disadvantage could possibly be accrued by not practicing slavery? Maybe you say it is cheaper to have virtually free labour, but is it not better to stimulate economic growth by having free and free-thinking entrepreneurs rather than simply labour? Know you anything of simple economics? Perhaps you are unaware of that Amistad signatories regularly assist those nations which renounce slavery. Any alternative is better than that which you appear to esteem.

But the monetary aspect of your statement is not what most concerns us. The whole concept of the Amistad Declaration is that slavery is vile. If it is humaneness for which you are concerned, I suggest that liberation be an alternative to slaughter, not simply changing the tyrant. Slaves are not a commodity - they are oppressed people, undeserving of the positions they are in. You cannot take them as loot, and any attempt - any attempt - will be met with immediate and terrible war.

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Postby Somali Caliphate » Tue Jul 03, 2012 2:24 pm

Maltropia wrote:
Somali Caliphate wrote:We agree to this agreement, but reserve the right to take slaves in war as this is more humane than wholesale slaughter and not doing so will leave us at a disadvantage.



Communique of the Royal Kingdom of Maltropia

From: Ministry of Foreign Affairs,
Corcaigh Nua,
Royal Kingdom of Maltropia
Date: 3/07/2012 AD
Encryption = None

To: The Somali Caliphate

What sort of disadvantage could possibly be accrued by not practicing slavery? Maybe you say it is cheaper to have virtually free labour, but is it not better to stimulate economic growth by having free and free-thinking entrepreneurs rather than simply labour? Know you anything of simple economics? Perhaps you are unaware of that Amistad signatories regularly assist those nations which renounce slavery. Any alternative is better than that which you appear to esteem.

But the monetary aspect of your statement is not what most concerns us. The whole concept of the Amistad Declaration is that slavery is vile. If it is humaneness for which you are concerned, I suggest that liberation be an alternative to slaughter, not simply changing the tyrant. Slaves are not a commodity - they are oppressed people, undeserving of the positions they are in. You cannot take them as loot, and any attempt - any attempt - will be met with immediate and terrible war.

Máirín O' Rourke
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I meant in war, captured soldiers would be put to work, instead of being slaughtered
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Postby Maltropia » Tue Jul 03, 2012 2:27 pm

Somali Caliphate wrote:I meant in war, captured soldiers would be put to work, instead of being slaughtered



Communique of the Royal Kingdom of Maltropia

From: Ministry of Foreign Affairs,
Corcaigh Nua,
Royal Kingdom of Maltropia
Date: 3/07/2012 AD
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To: The Somali Caliphate

If you still mean as slaves, our message remains valid. It is entirely likely that soldiers have been conscripted, and may very well despise the ideology they fight for. Such things are difficult to judge.

However, if you mean as Prisoners of War, you cannot condemn them to a life of labour on your behalf, as said above. You have the right to punish them for war crimes, but it would be unjustly cruel not to repatriate them or to consider their crimes expunged eventually.

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Postby Somali Caliphate » Tue Jul 03, 2012 2:29 pm

Maltropia wrote:
Somali Caliphate wrote:I meant in war, captured soldiers would be put to work, instead of being slaughtered



Communique of the Royal Kingdom of Maltropia

From: Ministry of Foreign Affairs,
Corcaigh Nua,
Royal Kingdom of Maltropia
Date: 3/07/2012 AD
Encryption = None

To: The Somali Caliphate

If you still mean as slaves, our message remains valid. It is entirely likely that soldiers have been conscripted, and may very well despise the ideology they fight for. Such things are difficult to judge.

However, if you mean as Prisoners of War, you cannot condemn them to a life of labour on your behalf, as said above. You have the right to punish them for war crimes, but it would be unjustly cruel not to repatriate them or to consider their crimes expunged eventually.

Máirín O' Rourke
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Yes, we meant as POWs, however our punishment for war crimes consists of making them work, until our POWs are returned, exchanged or until the war ends.
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Postby Maltropia » Tue Jul 03, 2012 2:34 pm

Somali Caliphate wrote:Yes, we meant as POWs, however our punishment for war crimes consists of making them work, until our POWs are returned, exchanged or until the war ends.



Communique of the Royal Kingdom of Maltropia

From: Ministry of Foreign Affairs,
Corcaigh Nua,
Royal Kingdom of Maltropia
Date: 3/07/2012 AD
Encryption = None

To: The Somali Caliphate

That we can live with. Do not overstep what can be considered justice, though; doing so is very dangerous.

[ Sheeeesh, this post format looks really pretentious when I'm just putting a one-liner in. ]

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Postby Republic of munster » Tue Jul 03, 2012 2:44 pm

Official Statement from Office of the President.

I president C.S Parnell officially endorse this declaration on Behalf of the Federal Republic of Munster.

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Postby Unilisia » Tue Jul 03, 2012 2:47 pm

An Announcement From The Archon of Unilisia

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Written by the Grace of the Archon Herself



From: The Office of International Affairs of the Unilisian Imperium
Subj: The Amistad Declaration on Slavery and the Rights of Man

To Our Recipients:

Although a nation composed of an obviously non-human race, Unilisia has, in recent years, undergone radical changes. The era of the past when humans were looked down upon has passed swiftly, and those human beings which my forefathers had turned into nothing more than cattle have been freed. Now, they look to our species for guidance in a world of troublesome societies and behaviors. Many nations do not believe me now when I say that I respect the rights of the human race to peaceful coexistence, but with this message, I will show that I do.

Henceforth, the Unilisian Directorate, the overseas Imperium, and all constituent territories and protectorates adhere to the terms of this declaration and consider its signatories as common friends in a world of injustice.



Signed,

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Postby New Hayesalia » Fri Jul 27, 2012 8:20 pm

Something for Amistad:

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Postby Narn » Sun Jul 29, 2012 6:18 am

OOC: Is this treaty just MT or can FT be involved?

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Postby Salzland » Sun Jul 29, 2012 6:25 am

OOC: Several of the participants are involved in all three major tech levels (MT, PMT and FT), so the treaty is presumably open to all tech levels. With the caveat that whichever thread Amistad-backed actions are occurring in will be limited to specific tech levels on a case-by-case basis.
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OOC: This is correct.
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