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A staging-point for declarations of war and other major diplomatic events. [In character]

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Postby Holy Marsh » Wed Mar 02, 2011 12:47 pm

Anemos Major wrote:This went too quickly for me, to be honest...

Much too quickly. Cities are taken in the span of one-two posts. :lol:
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Postby Greater Tezdrian » Wed Mar 02, 2011 12:48 pm

Holy Marsh wrote:
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Me, too. I have enemies to fight and war crimes to commit. If Teccor wants to stop me, he is welcome to try, but I'm eager to get moving.


I mean no offense to y'all, but take a gander at the really good, really serious RPs by the "big boys". Those RPs, more often than not, are lucky to have two posts a day. More than a few of the best RPed wars in the history of this game have lasted OOCly for months and months and yet ICly only covered days.

Indeed, I've seen RP's so long, you'd think the RP'er were either unemployed or had died at some point. But in regards to this particular RP: If the Home Island is conquered, what will become of the colonies?
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Postby Holy Marsh » Wed Mar 02, 2011 12:49 pm

Greater Tezdrian wrote:
Holy Marsh wrote:
I mean no offense to y'all, but take a gander at the really good, really serious RPs by the "big boys". Those RPs, more often than not, are lucky to have two posts a day. More than a few of the best RPed wars in the history of this game have lasted OOCly for months and months and yet ICly only covered days.

Indeed, I've seen RP's so long, you'd think the RP'er were either unemployed or had died at some point. But in regards to this particular RP: If the Home Island is conquered, what will become of the colonies?


Point me in their direction. :p
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Postby Greater Tezdrian » Wed Mar 02, 2011 12:51 pm

Holy Marsh wrote:
Greater Tezdrian wrote:Indeed, I've seen RP's so long, you'd think the RP'er were either unemployed or had died at some point. But in regards to this particular RP: If the Home Island is conquered, what will become of the colonies?


Point me in their direction. :p

Ah, but they won't be such a pushover. Nearly six billion people reside within the colonies, and they are all fully nuclear.
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Postby Aquilinia » Wed Mar 02, 2011 12:54 pm

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Point me in their direction. :p

Ah, but they won't be such a pushover. Nearly six billion people reside within the colonies, and they are all fully nuclear.


Maybe they go "Yay! Independence!"
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Postby Holy Marsh » Wed Mar 02, 2011 12:56 pm

Greater Tezdrian wrote:
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Point me in their direction. :p

Ah, but they won't be such a pushover. Nearly six billion people reside within the colonies, and they are all fully nuclear.

All that means is that we get to have more fun killin' evildoers. As for what I'll really do, it depends- if the main slaver govt is toppled and replaced with non-slaver govt and the colonies follow suit, then no reason for the full hammer of the Marshite state(that is currently still being mobilized) to fall upon them.
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Postby Greater Tezdrian » Wed Mar 02, 2011 1:00 pm

Aquilinia wrote:
Greater Tezdrian wrote:Ah, but they won't be such a pushover. Nearly six billion people reside within the colonies, and they are all fully nuclear.


Maybe they go "Yay! Independence!"

The "Island Negroes" as we kindly refer to them in the Home Isle, have been taught from birth that secession will have them burning in the fires of hell for all eternity. It'd take some serious work to convince them otherwise. This is the most likely scenario: The Home Isle is raped, the republican government is utterly annihilated, but the conies are left untouched. Insane filibuster from the colonies sets himself up as Emperor of the new Greater Tezdrian, and slavery continues, albeit quietly.
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Postby Aquilinia » Wed Mar 02, 2011 1:01 pm

Well, actually I think there will be a proper occupation and we will tell you what your government will be after we win the war. It would make far more sense.
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Postby Greater Tezdrian » Wed Mar 02, 2011 1:04 pm

Aquilinia wrote:Well, actually I think there will be a proper occupation and we will tell you what your government will be after we win the war. It would make far more sense.

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Don't crush my dreams with your realism...
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Postby Aquilinia » Wed Mar 02, 2011 1:06 pm

Greater Tezdrian wrote:
Aquilinia wrote:Well, actually I think there will be a proper occupation and we will tell you what your government will be after we win the war. It would make far more sense.

:(
Don't crush my dreams with your realism...


You can probably tell us what to tell you. It's your nation after all ;)
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Postby Holy Marsh » Wed Mar 02, 2011 1:10 pm

Aquilinia wrote:
Greater Tezdrian wrote: :(
Don't crush my dreams with your realism...


You can probably tell us what to tell you. It's your nation after all ;)


Pretty much. As long as you keep in mind what our aims are and how fervent some of us are about it, there are options.
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Postby Greater Tezdrian » Wed Mar 02, 2011 1:12 pm

Holy Marsh wrote:
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You can probably tell us what to tell you. It's your nation after all ;)


Pretty much. As long as you keep in mind what our aims are and how fervent some of us are about it, there are options.

Kept in mind they are, do not you worry. My comment was meant as a joke, although tone does not travel through the wires.
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Postby Holy Marsh » Wed Mar 02, 2011 1:13 pm

Greater Tezdrian wrote:
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Pretty much. As long as you keep in mind what our aims are and how fervent some of us are about it, there are options.

Kept in mind they are, do not you worry. My comment was mean't as a joke, although tone does not travel through the wires.

I was being reassuring. :p
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Postby Greater Tezdrian » Wed Mar 02, 2011 1:16 pm

Holy Marsh wrote:
Greater Tezdrian wrote:Kept in mind they are, do not you worry. My comment was mean't as a joke, although tone does not travel through the wires.

I was being reassuring. :p

Oh, well you failed. :p
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Postby Aquilinia » Wed Mar 02, 2011 1:18 pm

Can someone sum up what the IC situation is right now? I haven't looked at the thread in a while and lost track...ain't got the time to read all of it again.
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Postby Kaelmark » Wed Mar 02, 2011 1:19 pm

Aquilinia wrote:Can someone sum up what the IC situation is right now? I haven't looked at the thread in a while and lost track...ain't got the time to read all of it again.


I have to ask, and I'm not trying to seem mean.. but if you don't "have time" to read the thread, why are you participating in it? It's quite unfair to those involved.

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Postby Aquilinia » Wed Mar 02, 2011 1:22 pm

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Aquilinia wrote:Can someone sum up what the IC situation is right now? I haven't looked at the thread in a while and lost track...ain't got the time to read all of it again.


I have to ask, and I'm not trying to seem mean.. but if you don't "have time" to read the thread, why are you participating in it? It's quite unfair to those involved.


Look at my post again, and let me clarify. I do not have the time at this very moment to re-read the entirety of the IC thread, therefore I would like a summary of where we are right now.
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Postby Kaelmark » Wed Mar 02, 2011 1:27 pm

Well, nothing has changed since yesterday. Lyran forces still haven't done much, Uni pretty much godmodded and decided to occupy/capture a whole city in just a single post, someone else is slaughtering civilians, Pudite and Kaelmark forces fought each other not realizing they were on the same team and Tezdrian launched nukes. Oh, also there's about 10 different nations who've decided to dogpile on and help Lyras do something he needed absolutely no help in doing. :eyebrow:

That's about it.

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Postby Maltropia » Wed Mar 02, 2011 1:29 pm

Maltropia hasn't moved since the last post I made. So nothing going on in Leinster Bay.
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Postby Aquilinia » Wed Mar 02, 2011 1:30 pm

Right, then I did not forget anything important. Also, AFAIK Unilisia had GT's permission (via TG) to occupy that city without resistance. We (Uni and myself) took Ostgaard in a few posts and nobody really complained after the shitload of artillery we had put on it...

And also, there is quite something going on in Leinster Bay - my fleet just got there.
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Postby Holy Marsh » Wed Mar 02, 2011 1:32 pm

Aquilinia wrote:
Kaelmark wrote:
I have to ask, and I'm not trying to seem mean.. but if you don't "have time" to read the thread, why are you participating in it? It's quite unfair to those involved.


Look at my post again, and let me clarify. I do not have the time at this very moment to re-read the entirety of the IC thread, therefore I would like a summary of where we are right now.


Unilisia has launched an attack on Iu, mostly from the beachhead they had secured.
GT has launched twelve ICBMs towards Ostgaard.
There is a lot of stuff going on near the southwest corner, where most of the other nations are involved.
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1- Massive bombing raids of Inka, Iu, Abyelon, Griffigaard, and Sophiagrad. These raids also target numerous bridges, as seen on the map, as well as dozens of unnamed highway junctions and other chokepoints.
2- An unknown number of Sariels(GT was supposed to give a number of silos hit) destroyed all but one of his nuclear silos. With that one being found, Sariels from the main bombing campaign will be split off to destroy that.
3- 3rd Army Group is moving west rapidly now as the 7th and 10th start their disembarkation. One Army of the 10th will be sent to Ostgaard to begin the dismantling the slave structure. Beyond that,k the rest will be heading west, destination Abyelon and Iu.
4- Ten Army Groups and unknown naval forces are heading towards Hawk's Nest Bay-Maho Bay. They will land and begin operations to cut off the southwest/former capital area from the rest, Sophiagrad/that area off from the north, and pacify the area under their control so future forces(allied and otherwise) can set up in the northwest. There will also be engineers and other more specialized forces so air bases and larger army bases can be set up for long-term use.


And Aquilina, I'm not saying y'all didn't have permission. It is just the city that took the least effort in the history of NS RP to capture is all, and I have seen cities getting hit by far more firepower than that. :lol:
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Postby Aquilinia » Wed Mar 02, 2011 1:35 pm

True, but I disagree - I was involved in a war that ended within two pages and no big battles on any side. My own Civil War, that is. Assassinating the entire enemy leadership does have some nice effects if the sixth-in-command is on your side...
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Postby Greater Tezdrian » Wed Mar 02, 2011 1:36 pm

I feel I didn't clarify my launch post as well as I could have. Twelve nuclear tipped ICBM's were laucned at two primary locations: Ostgaard and the Coral Inlet. Six are screaming towards Ostgaard, and I'm expecting for 4-5 of those to be put out of action, while the rest are heading towards the Unilisian zone on the Coral Inlet, fortifications currently unknown/
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Postby Holy Marsh » Wed Mar 02, 2011 1:44 pm

Aquilinia wrote:True, but I disagree - I was involved in a war that ended within two pages and no big battles on any side. My own Civil War, that is. Assassinating the entire enemy leadership does have some nice effects if the sixth-in-command is on your side...

90% of the Marshite leadership was killed in the early days of the Marshite Civil War(Jolt days), and he war still dragged on for three years. It depends on the people and their convictions; leaders matter little when the cause is close to the heart and soul of billions. It wasn't until the third year that any side was able to capture any cities; dense, heavy, total, unrelenting urban warfare for three years.

But beyond that, the issue I think is just that GT is caught between a rock and a hard place. With no air force, little to no AA, no Navy, and outdated military(based on what I know of, at least), poor communication systems, he can't really do much and try to win. However, he should at least make us pay for taking cities. No matter how shell-shocked the populace and destroyed the city is, you would expect more than a small percentage to become hardened by this and you would expect rather brutal street battles amongst the rubble.

It may look like a lost cause so I understand his desire to not RP when the outcome is already decided, but we should all look on the bright side of that- with the outcome not really in doubt, how we get there is now our joint vocal point.

And it is a lot more fun for all if he presents a threat during urban battles. I wanna see lone survivors from his platoons charging tanks with pocket knives, one wounded soldier jumping up from a pile of his dead comrades to fire an anti-tank weapon as he takes aim at a whole armored company, suicide bombers, continued sniper warfare, torture and death of captured enemies at the hands of outraged citizens, etc.

That would be a lot more fun for all involved rather than taking a city in two posts. :lol:

@GT- Both areas are under the Marshite ABM net, so I expect eleven out of the twelve to be knocked out when other ABM nets are considered. Where would you prefer the missile, and one of its warheads, hit?
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Postby Aquilinia » Wed Mar 02, 2011 1:46 pm

That is true, Marsh...I would love to actually use my Sylvari's stealth abilities and marksmanship in the battle for Ableyon.

The problem is, though, when millions of soldiers are involved (look at Uni's numbers) that gets a tad difficult.
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