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Tezdriani War (OOC thread)

A staging-point for declarations of war and other major diplomatic events. [In character]

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Postby Dark Waters Inc » Sat Feb 26, 2011 2:37 am

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Issue I believe we are having is that if Lyras okays it, I have no issue with people boarding as long as they have cause. But DWI ships are not military cargo vessels and if the agreement I posted earlier is agreed upon, then they won';t be involved in the transportation of slaves to GT either, so unless you have cause, it would be unlawful.


I think in war, any cargo vessel headed to an enemy nation can be boarded and checked for anything that might aid the enemy. Of course, if nothing is found, we'd have to allow you to continue your journey.


Oh, I understand. I'm just saying it'd be unlawful, not that you can't do it.
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Postby Aquilinia » Sat Feb 26, 2011 2:40 am

Dark Waters Inc wrote:
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I think in war, any cargo vessel headed to an enemy nation can be boarded and checked for anything that might aid the enemy. Of course, if nothing is found, we'd have to allow you to continue your journey.


Oh, I understand. I'm just saying it'd be unlawful, not that you can't do it.


In my opinion, though, it's better safe than sorry. Who knows that that civilian cargo vessel there isn't smuggling weaponry disguised as something else? Although, hey, that'd be unlawful as well....also, in war, in my opinion, the law may sometimes be, let's say, interpreted differently.
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Postby Maltropia » Sat Feb 26, 2011 2:43 am

Aquilinia wrote:
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Oh, I understand. I'm just saying it'd be unlawful, not that you can't do it.


In my opinion, though, it's better safe than sorry. Who knows that that civilian cargo vessel there isn't smuggling weaponry disguised as something else? Although, hey, that'd be unlawful as well....also, in war, in my opinion, the law may sometimes be, let's say, interpreted differently.

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Postby Lamoni » Sat Feb 26, 2011 3:39 am

My contribution to this effort stands at:

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Furthermore, I will be asking Wanderjar to handle my forces on this front, as i'll soon be heavily involved on another front.


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Lamoni I understand fully, of course. The two are more inseparable than the Clinton family and politics.


ROFL! I didn't know that said reputation had made it that far. While Lyras and I are both IC and OOC friends, I would think that the Kennedy family was much more heavily into politics.
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Postby Of the Quendi » Sat Feb 26, 2011 3:53 am

I have now made two posts where my fleet comes very very close to be within firing range of your capital Tezdrian. Is the reason that you aren't replying that you are busy or that there is no defenses so I can just start firing?
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Postby Secantrine » Sat Feb 26, 2011 4:31 am

OOC: Is this war going to continue? I'm joining in if so.
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Postby Greater Tezdrian » Sat Feb 26, 2011 9:31 am

Of the Quendi wrote:I have now made two posts where my fleet comes very very close to be within firing range of your capital Tezdrian. Is the reason that you aren't replying that you are busy or that there is no defenses so I can just start firing?

A fair bit of both, actually. Busy with IASEN, but since our Air Force was wiped out in the Allean attack, you can pretty much start firing.
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Postby Of the Quendi » Sat Feb 26, 2011 9:38 am

Greater Tezdrian wrote:
Of the Quendi wrote:I have now made two posts where my fleet comes very very close to be within firing range of your capital Tezdrian. Is the reason that you aren't replying that you are busy or that there is no defenses so I can just start firing?

A fair bit of both, actually. Busy with IASEN, but since our Air Force was wiped out in the Allean attack, you can pretty much start firing.

No navy either?
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Postby Greater Tezdrian » Sat Feb 26, 2011 9:39 am

Of the Quendi wrote:
Greater Tezdrian wrote:A fair bit of both, actually. Busy with IASEN, but since our Air Force was wiped out in the Allean attack, you can pretty much start firing.

No navy either?

Not really, no.
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Postby Aquilinia » Sat Feb 26, 2011 9:47 am

So it's safe to say nothing will stop my forces from landing, either?
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Postby Novikov » Sat Feb 26, 2011 10:23 am

Of the Quendi wrote:I have now made two posts where my fleet comes very very close to be within firing range of your capital Tezdrian. Is the reason that you aren't replying that you are busy or that there is no defenses so I can just start firing?

There can't be much there, anyways, as his capitol was hit with a "55 gigaton*" nuclear device last year.
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Postby Aquilinia » Sat Feb 26, 2011 10:34 am

I think he established a new capital after that incident. As any nation would.
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Postby Allanea » Sat Feb 26, 2011 8:54 pm

Greater Tezdrian:

You have not responded to my second attack on your capital's AA system. You have posted for other people and even started a new IASEN thread and posted in it. It's clearly not an issue of time.

Please either make an IC response, or at least inform me of the results so I can write another post for your thread based on that.
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Postby Secantrine » Sat Feb 26, 2011 9:04 pm

Okay put me in, I'm going on a vacuum here.
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Postby Of the Quendi » Sun Feb 27, 2011 5:29 am

Aquilinia wrote:I think he established a new capital after that incident. As any nation would.

So it would appear. The city I am targeting is called Venko and the one that was hit by a 55 gigaton nuclear weapon (55? Thats more then even a Tsar Bomba, how can Greater Tezdrian even exist?) was called Estancia de Baxio, what a beautiful name by the way, so I guess it is two different cities.
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Postby Anemos Major » Sun Feb 27, 2011 5:31 am

Of the Quendi wrote:So it would appear. The city I am targeting is called Venko and the one that was hit by a 55 gigaton nuclear weapon (55? Thats more then even a Tsar Bomba, how can Greater Tezdrian even exist?) was called Estancia de Baxio, what a beautiful name by the way, so I guess it is two different cities.


Quendi;

Czar Bomba was 25 MEGAtons.

If he was hit by a 55 gigaton nuclear weapon, his nation wouldn't exist, and half the NS world would have been destroyed by the explosion alone.

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Postby United States of PA » Sun Feb 27, 2011 5:31 am

Just a lil fyi, Tsar Bomba was 50 Megatons. 55 Gigatons is 55,000 megatons. Thats enough to split the earth in half.
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Postby Of the Quendi » Sun Feb 27, 2011 5:35 am

Anemos Major wrote:
Of the Quendi wrote:So it would appear. The city I am targeting is called Venko and the one that was hit by a 55 gigaton nuclear weapon (55? Thats more then even a Tsar Bomba, how can Greater Tezdrian even exist?) was called Estancia de Baxio, what a beautiful name by the way, so I guess it is two different cities.


Quendi;

Czar Bomba was 25 MEGAtons.

If he was hit by a 55 gigaton nuclear weapon, his nation wouldn't exist, and half the NS world would have been destroyed by the explosion alone.

:palm: I confused mega with giga. So a nuclear bomb a thousand times the size of of the Tsar Bomba was detonated on the surface? Sound like all non Earth based nations should RP being a wasteland then.
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Postby United States of PA » Sun Feb 27, 2011 5:37 am

No, its probably enough to split the RL planet in half with a surface burst.
In other words, conservatives are generous with their own money, and liberals are generous with other peoples money.
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Postby Anemos Major » Sun Feb 27, 2011 5:38 am

United States of PA wrote:No, its probably enough to split the RL planet in half with a surface burst.


The RL planet. Not the NS planet.

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Postby United States of PA » Sun Feb 27, 2011 5:41 am

Anemos Major wrote:
United States of PA wrote:No, its probably enough to split the RL planet in half with a surface burst.


The RL planet. Not the NS planet.


Notice i did say RL Planet.
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Postby Anemos Major » Sun Feb 27, 2011 5:46 am

United States of PA wrote:Notice i did say RL Planet.


You also used the word 'no'.

Believe or not, that generally leads into a contradiction or rebuttal.

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Postby Of the Quendi » Sun Feb 27, 2011 5:48 am

I realize that 55 gigatons is a very powerful explosion and I don't question for a second that even the most resilient life forms on the RL earth would seize to exist if such a bomb ever went of. But split the planet in half?
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Postby Blademasters765 » Sun Feb 27, 2011 5:49 am

Anemos Major wrote:
United States of PA wrote:Notice i did say RL Planet.


You also used the word 'no'.

Believe or not, that generally leads into a contradiction or rebuttal.

he used a comma...
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Postby Anemos Major » Sun Feb 27, 2011 5:53 am

Blademasters765 wrote:he used a comma...


... and?

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