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Postby Kylarnatia » Sat Feb 26, 2011 12:29 pm

Jbeil wrote:
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It'd be a very 'tight' Roleplay - as the tention will be very high. That being because you'll get the majority of us pouring support to the Principality with open trade and stuff - and then you'll get the Republic getting support from all those strange, pro-american democrats out there :P

Indeed...I believe I will implement that idea...It seems perfect.
Except...The Theocracy isn't going to get as much support as the Monarchy and Republic...


It could just watch everything unfold - then take advantage during a weak moment...
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Postby Jbeil » Sat Feb 26, 2011 12:37 pm

Kylarnatia wrote:
Jbeil wrote:Indeed...I believe I will implement that idea...It seems perfect.
Except...The Theocracy isn't going to get as much support as the Monarchy and Republic...


It could just watch everything unfold - then take advantage during a weak moment...

Hm...I don't think there would be a "weak" moment.
The Republic and Principality will join together in almost everything.
They will have a common customs-union, they will use the same currency, their militaries(The Principality will have a MUCH weaker military) will be in a complete alliance etc.
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Postby Aquilinia » Sat Feb 26, 2011 12:37 pm

Well, there could be the situation that maybe some nations will refuse to recognize some of your part-nations, which will make it even more interesting. Good idea, that.
Etat Liber Aquilini - Freistaat Aquilinien - Free State of Aquilinia
Libertas et Unitas - Freiheit und Einheit - Freedom and Unity

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Postby Kylarnatia » Sat Feb 26, 2011 12:39 pm

Aquilinia wrote:Well, there could be the situation that maybe some nations will refuse to recognize some of your part-nations, which will make it even more interesting. Good idea, that.


Indeed ;)
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Postby Aquilinia » Sat Feb 26, 2011 12:55 pm

Kylarnatia wrote:
Aquilinia wrote:Well, there could be the situation that maybe some nations will refuse to recognize some of your part-nations, which will make it even more interesting. Good idea, that.


Indeed ;)


Aquilinia, in fact, will not recognize the theocratic part of the nation, for various reasons. Also, we will only recognize the Republic because it is recognized by the Empire/Principality.
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Etat Liber Aquilini - Freistaat Aquilinien - Free State of Aquilinia
Libertas et Unitas - Freiheit und Einheit - Freedom and Unity

Praetor: Lucille Silvanus Aquili
Consul: Dr. Zoé Metelli

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Postby Kylarnatia » Sat Feb 26, 2011 12:57 pm

Aquilinia wrote:
Kylarnatia wrote:
Indeed ;)


Aquilinia, in fact, will not recognize the theocratic part of the nation, for various reasons. Also, we will only recognize the Republic because it is recognized by the Empire/Principality.


What are the reasons for not recognising the theocracy?
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Postby Aquilinia » Sat Feb 26, 2011 1:01 pm

Kylarnatia wrote:
Aquilinia wrote:
Aquilinia, in fact, will not recognize the theocratic part of the nation, for various reasons. Also, we will only recognize the Republic because it is recognized by the Empire/Principality.


What are the reasons for not recognising the theocracy?


We do not recognize a state that exists plainly because a group of religious nutjobs demands a piece of land to govern. Also, we do not see the Republic of Jbeil (or however it will be called) as the rightful state in Jbeil - we only recognize them because the monarchy does - and therefore they have no right to give away lands that rightfully belong to the Jbeili Empire. Lastly, Aquilinia does not accept purely religious claims of leadership - we only rarely accept theocracies in general, depending on what their populace (and the rest of the world) thinks of that theocracy.
Etat Liber Aquilini - Freistaat Aquilinien - Free State of Aquilinia
Libertas et Unitas - Freiheit und Einheit - Freedom and Unity

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Consul: Dr. Zoé Metelli

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Postby Kylarnatia » Sat Feb 26, 2011 1:03 pm

Aquilinia wrote:
Kylarnatia wrote:
What are the reasons for not recognising the theocracy?


We do not recognize a state that exists plainly because a group of religious nutjobs demands a piece of land to govern. Also, we do not see the Republic of Jbeil (or however it will be called) as the rightful state in Jbeil - we only recognize them because the monarchy does - and therefore they have no right to give away lands that rightfully belong to the Jbeili Empire. Lastly, Aquilinia does not accept purely religious claims of leadership - we only rarely accept theocracies in general, depending on what their populace (and the rest of the world) thinks of that theocracy.


I might follow you on that view ;)
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Postby Aquilinia » Sat Feb 26, 2011 1:10 pm

Kylarnatia wrote:
Aquilinia wrote:
We do not recognize a state that exists plainly because a group of religious nutjobs demands a piece of land to govern. Also, we do not see the Republic of Jbeil (or however it will be called) as the rightful state in Jbeil - we only recognize them because the monarchy does - and therefore they have no right to give away lands that rightfully belong to the Jbeili Empire. Lastly, Aquilinia does not accept purely religious claims of leadership - we only rarely accept theocracies in general, depending on what their populace (and the rest of the world) thinks of that theocracy.


I might follow you on that view ;)


The thing is, Grand Empress Lucille, who had seemed to be quite liberal, has started cutting down on political liberties, and is also starting to cut down on civil liberties - while people are still free to do what they want at home, public life is starting to become quite regulated, the press is slightly censored, etc.
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Libertas et Unitas - Freiheit und Einheit - Freedom and Unity

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Consul: Dr. Zoé Metelli

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Postby Kylarnatia » Sat Feb 26, 2011 1:14 pm

Aquilinia wrote:
Kylarnatia wrote:
I might follow you on that view ;)


The thing is, Grand Empress Lucille, who had seemed to be quite liberal, has started cutting down on political liberties, and is also starting to cut down on civil liberties - while people are still free to do what they want at home, public life is starting to become quite regulated, the press is slightly censored, etc.


Thats what it's like here in Kylarnatia - and we're voted in the 1% of the World for Nicest and Most Compassionate Citizens :P
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Postby Jbeil » Sat Feb 26, 2011 1:58 pm

Aquilinia wrote:
Kylarnatia wrote:
What are the reasons for not recognising the theocracy?


We do not recognize a state that exists plainly because a group of religious nutjobs demands a piece of land to govern. Also, we do not see the Republic of Jbeil (or however it will be called) as the rightful state in Jbeil - we only recognize them because the monarchy does - and therefore they have no right to give away lands that rightfully belong to the Jbeili Empire. Lastly, Aquilinia does not accept purely religious claims of leadership - we only rarely accept theocracies in general, depending on what their populace (and the rest of the world) thinks of that theocracy.

OK, let me clarify the situation.

The Republic and the Principality of Menaton will sign an "Independence" treaty, to consolidate each others sovereignty. The same will be done with the Republic and the Theocracy. The treaty will include the alliances, monetary business, customs-union and claim on land and much more.(All will claim the land given to them)
It is your choice who you wish to recognize, but the Theocracy is actually not formed because the Church wants land, but because the Secular Republic will no longer allow the Church to operate out of one of its cities.
La République Jbeili
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Demonym:Jbeili.
DEFCON: 1; 2; 3; 4; [5]
I RP with a population of 4,000,000,000.
In a Union with the Principality of Menaton and the Theocracy of -Albi.
Establish an embassy:http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=102284
Join the Jbeili Francophonie:http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=99496
Join the Jbeili Foreign Legion:http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=71952

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Postby Aquilinia » Sat Feb 26, 2011 2:13 pm

Is there actually a RP/thread for your revolution?
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Libertas et Unitas - Freiheit und Einheit - Freedom and Unity

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Postby Jbeil » Sat Feb 26, 2011 2:15 pm

Aquilinia wrote:Is there actually a RP/thread for your revolution?

Yes, there is:

http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=97767
La République Jbeili
Liberté,Égalité,Prospérité

Demonym:Jbeili.
DEFCON: 1; 2; 3; 4; [5]
I RP with a population of 4,000,000,000.
In a Union with the Principality of Menaton and the Theocracy of -Albi.
Establish an embassy:http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=102284
Join the Jbeili Francophonie:http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=99496
Join the Jbeili Foreign Legion:http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=71952

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Postby Aquilinia » Sat Feb 26, 2011 2:20 pm

Might post later.
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Libertas et Unitas - Freiheit und Einheit - Freedom and Unity

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Postby Jbeil » Sat Feb 26, 2011 3:33 pm

Well, it is done.

I will get a new flag, and the Empire will become the Republic.
Expect an application from the "Principality of Menaton" soon.
La République Jbeili
Liberté,Égalité,Prospérité

Demonym:Jbeili.
DEFCON: 1; 2; 3; 4; [5]
I RP with a population of 4,000,000,000.
In a Union with the Principality of Menaton and the Theocracy of -Albi.
Establish an embassy:http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=102284
Join the Jbeili Francophonie:http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=99496
Join the Jbeili Foreign Legion:http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=71952

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Postby Kylarnatia » Sat Feb 26, 2011 3:35 pm

Jbeil wrote:Well, it is done.

I will get a new flag, and the Empire will become the Republic.
Expect an application from the "Principality of Menaton" soon.


I'll have a post done tommorow ;)
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Postby The Matthew Islands » Sat Feb 26, 2011 3:45 pm

Responded to Jbeils announcement. I do hope a revolution will occur.
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Postby Jbeil » Sat Feb 26, 2011 3:48 pm

The Matthew Islands wrote:Responded to Jbeils announcement. I do hope a revolution will occur.

What revolution ? One just finished...
La République Jbeili
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Demonym:Jbeili.
DEFCON: 1; 2; 3; 4; [5]
I RP with a population of 4,000,000,000.
In a Union with the Principality of Menaton and the Theocracy of -Albi.
Establish an embassy:http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=102284
Join the Jbeili Francophonie:http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=99496
Join the Jbeili Foreign Legion:http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=71952

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Postby The Matthew Islands » Sat Feb 26, 2011 3:51 pm

Jbeil wrote:
The Matthew Islands wrote:Responded to Jbeils announcement. I do hope a revolution will occur.

What revolution ? One just finished...

A new one to remove the Theocracy and demolish the republic.
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Souseiseki wrote:as a posting career in the UK Poltics Thread becomes longer, the probability of literally becoming souseiseki approaches 1

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Postby Jbeil » Sat Feb 26, 2011 4:06 pm

The Matthew Islands wrote:
Jbeil wrote:What revolution ? One just finished...

A new one to remove the Theocracy and demolish the republic.

Pfftt...That's not happening anytime soon.
La République Jbeili
Liberté,Égalité,Prospérité

Demonym:Jbeili.
DEFCON: 1; 2; 3; 4; [5]
I RP with a population of 4,000,000,000.
In a Union with the Principality of Menaton and the Theocracy of -Albi.
Establish an embassy:http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=102284
Join the Jbeili Francophonie:http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=99496
Join the Jbeili Foreign Legion:http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=71952

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Postby Jbeil » Sat Feb 26, 2011 4:16 pm

The Jbeili Republic hereby offers its official resignation from the SEC...Expect the Principality of Menaton to apply soon.
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La République Jbeili
Liberté,Égalité,Prospérité

Demonym:Jbeili.
DEFCON: 1; 2; 3; 4; [5]
I RP with a population of 4,000,000,000.
In a Union with the Principality of Menaton and the Theocracy of -Albi.
Establish an embassy:http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=102284
Join the Jbeili Francophonie:http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=99496
Join the Jbeili Foreign Legion:http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=71952

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Postby Kylarnatia » Sat Feb 26, 2011 4:18 pm

Jbeil wrote:The Jbeili Republic hereby offers its official resignation from the SEC...Expect the Principality of Menaton to apply soon.


Damn Democrats! :evil:
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Postby Milograd » Sat Feb 26, 2011 4:53 pm

Jbeil joined Guanxi XD
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Postby Jbeil » Sat Feb 26, 2011 4:55 pm

Milograd wrote:Jbeil joined Guanxi XD

Yes, as my Monarchist nation has joined the League...
La République Jbeili
Liberté,Égalité,Prospérité

Demonym:Jbeili.
DEFCON: 1; 2; 3; 4; [5]
I RP with a population of 4,000,000,000.
In a Union with the Principality of Menaton and the Theocracy of -Albi.
Establish an embassy:http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=102284
Join the Jbeili Francophonie:http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=99496
Join the Jbeili Foreign Legion:http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=71952

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