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The 2nd Meeting of the JSF (OOC, with a littleICsprinkledin)

A staging-point for declarations of war and other major diplomatic events. [In character]

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Postby Obamacain » Sun Jan 23, 2011 6:51 am

Novograd IV wrote:newbie idjit gets higher rank than vet. for whatever reason (inactivity, ect.)

newbie messes up operation, by changing plans in the middle of a firefight and ruining the team's plan.

people rage.

Ooc: that's why it's not just a measur of number of missions but also participation and teamwork
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Postby Novograd IV » Sun Jan 23, 2011 6:53 am

Obamacain wrote:
Novograd IV wrote:newbie idjit gets higher rank than vet. for whatever reason (inactivity, ect.)

newbie messes up operation, by changing plans in the middle of a firefight and ruining the team's plan.

people rage.

Ooc: that's why it's not just a measur of number of missions but also participation and teamwork


read the first line again
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Postby Obamacain » Sun Jan 23, 2011 6:56 am

Veterans won't get demoted but if they don't participate they won't ever get promoted. If they never get promoted it allows a "newbie" to Over time to move up ranks and maybe surpass the veteran but it would take numerous missions
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Postby Novograd IV » Sun Jan 23, 2011 6:57 am

Obamacain wrote:Veterans won't get demoted but if they don't participate they won't ever get promoted. If they never get promoted it allows a "newbie" to Over time to move up ranks and maybe surpass the veteran but it would take numerous missions


so you agree that that situation is entirely possible
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Postby Obamacain » Sun Jan 23, 2011 8:48 am

OOC: By the time a newbie surpassed a veteran he/she would no longer be a newbie. Therefore no, a veteran would surpass a veteran in rank
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Postby Novograd IV » Sun Jan 23, 2011 8:49 am

Obamacain wrote:OOC: By the time a newbie surpassed a veteran he/she would no longer be a newbie. Therefore no, a veteran would surpass a veteran in rank


Phonencia? :p

who's name i STILL can't spell :lol:
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Postby Obamacain » Sun Jan 23, 2011 8:52 am

OOC: Ah the phonencia defense. If he participates well he deserves to be called a veteran I assume
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Postby Novograd IV » Sun Jan 23, 2011 8:55 am

Obamacain wrote:OOC: Ah the phonencia defense. If he participates well he deserves to be called a veteran I assume


and if a n00b outranks a true veteran?
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Postby Obamacain » Sun Jan 23, 2011 9:10 am

Novograd IV wrote:
Obamacain wrote:OOC: Ah the phonencia defense. If he participates well he deserves to be called a veteran I assume


and if a n00b outranks a true veteran?

OOC: Whats your definition of a true veteran? It seems your main concern is someone jumping through the system without actually contributing. That is why as I said before it won't just be a count of the number of RP's you've had but your participation (which can include dedication and quality work) and teamwork (so we don't have any rogue commandos like Bedke was in OGP)
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"Alright lets do this thing" --James Bondera


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Postby Novograd IV » Sun Jan 23, 2011 9:12 am

Obamacain wrote:
Novograd IV wrote:
and if a n00b outranks a true veteran?

OOC: Whats your definition of a true veteran? It seems your main concern is someone jumping through the system without actually contributing. That is why as I said before it won't just be a count of the number of RP's you've had but your participation (which can include dedication and quality work) and teamwork (so we don't have any rogue commandos like Bedke was in OGP)


Veteran - someone with a good knowledge of the group AND of tactics/combat

n00b - someone with poor knowledge of combat and tactics, generally an ass.

If V plays less than N, and N overtakes V in rank due to them being there (because let's be honest, there'll be SOME reason to promote him, even if he's awful) N can demolish the system by being an ass to not only V, but any other NEW PLAYER to enter.
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Postby Strykla » Sun Jan 23, 2011 11:08 am

Novograd IV wrote:
Obamacain wrote:OOC: Whats your definition of a true veteran? It seems your main concern is someone jumping through the system without actually contributing. That is why as I said before it won't just be a count of the number of RP's you've had but your participation (which can include dedication and quality work) and teamwork (so we don't have any rogue commandos like Bedke was in OGP)


Veteran - someone with a good knowledge of the group AND of tactics/combat

n00b - someone with poor knowledge of combat and tactics, generally an ass.

If V plays less than N, and N overtakes V in rank due to them being there (because let's be honest, there'll be SOME reason to promote him, even if he's awful) N can demolish the system by being an ass to not only V, but any other NEW PLAYER to enter.

I've got an idea.
Okay, so let's assume a n00b gets a high rank and starts giving out KP duty for no reason. In that case, the CO of the JSF (Or XO, depending on who's online) would start an impeachment process. A jury would be asked to come, comprised of non-JSFers(JSFers might want to defend their friends or something, and not be truthful). The verdict would be decided, and punishment could range from demotion to booting.
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Postby Novograd IV » Sun Jan 23, 2011 11:13 am

Strykla wrote:
Novograd IV wrote:
Veteran - someone with a good knowledge of the group AND of tactics/combat

n00b - someone with poor knowledge of combat and tactics, generally an ass.

If V plays less than N, and N overtakes V in rank due to them being there (because let's be honest, there'll be SOME reason to promote him, even if he's awful) N can demolish the system by being an ass to not only V, but any other NEW PLAYER to enter.

I've got an idea.
Okay, so let's assume a n00b gets a high rank and starts giving out KP duty for no reason. In that case, the CO of the JSF (Or XO, depending on who's online) would start an impeachment process. A jury would be asked to come, comprised of non-JSFers(JSFers might want to defend their friends or something, and not be truthful). The verdict would be decided, and punishment could range from demotion to booting.


because we're easily going to find a bunch of people on NS for jury duty?
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Postby Strykla » Sun Jan 23, 2011 11:50 am

Novograd IV wrote:
Strykla wrote:I've got an idea.
Okay, so let's assume a n00b gets a high rank and starts giving out KP duty for no reason. In that case, the CO of the JSF (Or XO, depending on who's online) would start an impeachment process. A jury would be asked to come, comprised of non-JSFers(JSFers might want to defend their friends or something, and not be truthful). The verdict would be decided, and punishment could range from demotion to booting.


because we're easily going to find a bunch of people on NS for jury duty?

Hey, I'm not the people person. I didn't think there would need to be that many, maybe 5 at the most.
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Postby Novograd IV » Sun Jan 23, 2011 12:00 pm

Strykla wrote:
Novograd IV wrote:
because we're easily going to find a bunch of people on NS for jury duty?

Hey, I'm not the people person. I didn't think there would need to be that many, maybe 5 at the most.


and we're going to find 5 people on NS for jury duty?

that will actually take it seriously.
and not quit the job in the first minute?
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Postby Rodama » Mon Jan 24, 2011 4:25 pm

OOC: *slips in quietly since she is.... a week late*
uh.... yeah, the siggy explains my absence, but what have I missed?
besides Lahio showing up to the first meeting drunk as heck :P
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Postby Obamacain » Mon Jan 24, 2011 5:06 pm

New mission
I believe I sent you link
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Postby Rodama » Tue Jan 25, 2011 3:09 pm

you did and I posted in it
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Postby Phonencia » Wed Jan 26, 2011 8:43 pm

Novograd IV wrote:
Obamacain wrote:OOC: By the time a newbie surpassed a veteran he/she would no longer be a newbie. Therefore no, a veteran would surpass a veteran in rank


Phonencia? :p

who's name i STILL can't spell :lol:



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Postby Phonencia » Wed Jan 26, 2011 8:50 pm

Bedke strode into the small room, wearing his unusually neat L-Cam BDU.
He sat down at the table.
"Sorry I'm late, had to call my girlfriend, her Pug, scooter, just died."
He stretched. "So what'd I miss?"
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