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Postby Layarteb » Tue Nov 10, 2009 12:43 am

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^^ Scene V ^^

What is that about the Emperor you hear?
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Postby Cotland » Tue Nov 10, 2009 4:27 am

Nice. Can I RP some resistance on Man?

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Postby Layarteb » Tue Nov 10, 2009 10:28 am

Cotland wrote:Nice. Can I RP some resistance on Man?


Yarp
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Postby United States of Brink » Tue Nov 10, 2009 11:36 pm

Klievan wrote:In light of all the new people joining, I need to claim some lands sooner than I had planned, before they are all taken. Brink, you have Liechtenstein which is surrounded by my land and far from the rest of your nation. Would you be willing to let it transfer hands?

I am also now claiming Egypt, Libya, and the following parts of France: Rhone-Alpes, Paca, Auvergne, Languedoc-Roussilion, Limousin, Midi-Pyrenees, Poitou-Charentes, and Aquitaine. Also, in an effort to increase my control in the Mediterranean Sea, I am claiming the Islands of Sardinia, Malta, Crete, and Rhodes.

Note to Zeyditch: You claimed Cyprus and the Sinai Penninsula, both of which I find desirable lands. Perhaps we can work out some sort of agreement or land swap or something of the sort.


What's the deal with your government again?

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Postby Layarteb » Wed Nov 11, 2009 2:22 am

Brink I left two things for you off-site FYI.
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Postby Costa Paz » Wed Nov 11, 2009 11:11 am

Hey, I'm sort of interested in this, but despite having seen EII tags on and off over the years I don't know much about how it works. This won't be an application post, then, but a lot of questions and pondering, if you'll indulge me.

If I were interested in setting-up República de Costa Paz in Veracruz and Tamaulipas, in Mexico (assuming I'm seeing the colours correctly and the middle of Mexico is free, not a current claim in itself), what sort of things would I have to take into account in terms of history and culture? From what I've read, I gather it wouldn't necessarily be like imposing my state on a completely blank slate, right? The little form thing to be filled out by applicants does include a founding/independence date, but I assume that I couldn't just stick in any old date without knowing the history of EII... I see an, 'at your discretion' qualifier that doesn't entirely clarify matters for me.

A quick consultation of Wiki suggests that such a claim as proposed would cover 151,083km2... does the land/population matrix hold true in reverse? That is to say, falling into the second-lowest population range on the chart, would I then be free to choose any population up to 101,000,000, or would there not be any particular limit on population, just land?

Oh, and then, does EII assume that natural resources, terrain, climate et cetera are based upon what would be found in the RL territory covered?

I hope these don't seem like stupid questions!

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Postby Layarteb » Wed Nov 11, 2009 12:41 pm

Costa Paz wrote:Hey, I'm sort of interested in this, but despite having seen EII tags on and off over the years I don't know much about how it works. This won't be an application post, then, but a lot of questions and pondering, if you'll indulge me.

If I were interested in setting-up República de Costa Paz in Veracruz and Tamaulipas, in Mexico (assuming I'm seeing the colours correctly and the middle of Mexico is free, not a current claim in itself), what sort of things would I have to take into account in terms of history and culture? From what I've read, I gather it wouldn't necessarily be like imposing my state on a completely blank slate, right? The little form thing to be filled out by applicants does include a founding/independence date, but I assume that I couldn't just stick in any old date without knowing the history of EII... I see an, 'at your discretion' qualifier that doesn't entirely clarify matters for me.

A quick consultation of Wiki suggests that such a claim as proposed would cover 151,083km2... does the land/population matrix hold true in reverse? That is to say, falling into the second-lowest population range on the chart, would I then be free to choose any population up to 101,000,000, or would there not be any particular limit on population, just land?

Oh, and then, does EII assume that natural resources, terrain, climate et cetera are based upon what would be found in the RL territory covered?

I hope these don't seem like stupid questions!


1. Well most of Mexico was held by "The Russian Federation," which set it up as an autonomous republic so while that would largely influence perhaps your claiming RP it is up to you or not if you want to have it influence your nation. As far as the date of independence goes, that isn't rigorously enforced, if that were the case most of the new people would have to claim 2009 and what not but I don't really worry much about that, it's more for informative purposes.

2. All that Land-Population Matrix does is limit the maximum amount of land you can claim, it has no settings on the minimum claim. You can claim whatever you want so long as it doesn't exceed that number and, also, the population you select can be whatever you want so long as it is remotely realistic (i.e. don't have 100,000,000 people in an area the size of New York City) and it does not exceed your maximum NS population.

3. E2 does assume RL terrain and resources and climate sure but there is so leeway with resources and what not but generally pretty much what RL has.
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Postby The Fanboyists » Wed Nov 11, 2009 1:24 pm

...I'm still in, right? I'm sorry I havn't done an RP in a while... I'll try and fix that fairly soon...
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Postby United States of Brink » Wed Nov 11, 2009 3:26 pm

Lay, having trouble with my password offsite

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Postby Cotland » Wed Nov 11, 2009 3:30 pm

Cotland, throwing its weight around? What?

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Postby Layarteb » Wed Nov 11, 2009 3:31 pm

United States of Brink wrote:Lay, having trouble with my password offsite


No problem I'll reset it for you and leave it in your TG.

As a side note I just put in Windows 7. I fail to see the hype about it but so far I haven't ran to my Windows XP disc yet.
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Postby Rhodesian States » Wed Nov 11, 2009 5:04 pm

Sorry about the rather small delay, have begun working on the Eyes of Heaven Thread in earnest again

Lol incidentally I am making a shameless landgrab for the Republic of Congo.

heres the thread: viewtopic.php?f=5&t=24325&p=928795#p928795
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Postby United States of Brink » Wed Nov 11, 2009 8:27 pm

I'd look again. It isn't so shameless now, or rather just isn't.

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Postby Layarteb » Wed Nov 11, 2009 9:02 pm

Sounds good. Alright some new things.

>> New claims of land will expire in two weeks without any posts or activity
>> Space RPs can be done so long as they remain within the bounds of modern-tech realism and if you have a question whether or not it is MT realistic, just ask. Landing on Mars = PMT so leave that one out. Moon mission landing that would be MT. Satellite launches, duh MT. Rocket launches in general, also MT.
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Postby Klievan » Wed Nov 11, 2009 9:36 pm

United States of Brink wrote:
Klievan wrote:Brink, you have Liechtenstein which is surrounded by my land and far from the rest of your nation. Would you be willing to let it transfer hands?


What's the deal with your government again?


The executive branch is the main power in the government, along with a strong judicial system. The legislature is given little actual power because the people tend to view it as corrupt and inefficient. The government is mainly a one party government (the Eagles of Honor) which tends to lean more to the right, although it is moderate. Civil rights regarding personal freedoms, equality, and fair trials are good. One note to put in is that due to the recent formation of my nation, much of the country is under martial law and vigilante justice is common, but this will lessen over time as the legal authorities become more emplaced.

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Postby United States of Brink » Wed Nov 11, 2009 10:46 pm

Well I have been looking to offload it but not without an RP.

Lich is a strongly independent republic (has no ties whatsoever with my actual African nation). It values democracy but values money more. We can start an RP and see where it goes. I should also make mention that they have no army but I've just been begging to RP an insurgency so use force at your own rish

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Postby Costa Paz » Thu Nov 12, 2009 6:48 am

Layarteb wrote:snip


Thanks, that answers most of it, for me. I think I might put together a claim for Veracruz and Tamaulipas, then.

Where might I go to figure out what influence The Russian Federation might have on my claim? Or has anyone any advice on the matter for a complete newcomer to EII canon?

I'm thinking I may start off with the increasingly corrupt aparatus of regional government under the Russian-influenced autonomous republic running a de facto independent Hispanic, Roman Catholic state, so long as that doesn't conflict with anything already established...

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Postby Layarteb » Thu Nov 12, 2009 7:10 am

Costa Paz wrote:
Layarteb wrote:snip


Thanks, that answers most of it, for me. I think I might put together a claim for Veracruz and Tamaulipas, then.

Where might I go to figure out what influence The Russian Federation might have on my claim? Or has anyone any advice on the matter for a complete newcomer to EII canon?

I'm thinking I may start off with the increasingly corrupt aparatus of regional government under the Russian-influenced autonomous republic running a de facto independent Hispanic, Roman Catholic state, so long as that doesn't conflict with anything already established...


Question answered.
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Postby Hi No Moto » Thu Nov 12, 2009 9:36 am

Layarteb I'm a bit confused about what to do about your recent post in "Blue Skies and Blue Seas”. With your invasion of Palau and the Marshall Islands the Hi No Moton Empire is definitely going to react and I’ll make my claim on the Caroline Islands due to this. Should I post the claims in “Deepening Shadow” where most of my territorial gains are being made or should I post my reaction in “Blue Skies and Blue Seas”?

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Postby Layarteb » Thu Nov 12, 2009 9:44 am

Hi No Moto wrote:Layarteb I'm a bit confused about what to do about your recent post in "Blue Skies and Blue Seas”. With your invasion of Palau and the Marshall Islands the Hi No Moton Empire is definitely going to react and I’ll make my claim on the Caroline Islands due to this. Should I post the claims in “Deepening Shadow” where most of my territorial gains are being made or should I post my reaction in “Blue Skies and Blue Seas”?


Wherever you like I don't mind either way. It is your claim after all.
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Postby Costa Paz » Thu Nov 12, 2009 11:16 am

Layarteb wrote:Question answered.


Heh, oh. Cool :lol:

Introductory RP thread starting momentarily, then. For now, preliminary factsheet for a claim on the Mexican states of Veracruz and Tamaulipas:

* Nation Name: República de Costa Paz (local), Republic of Costa Paz (conventional)
* Demonym: Costa Pazan
* Population: 101,344,520
* Largest Religion: Roman Catholicism
* Military Size: ~0.25% of populace
* Independence/Founding Date: 10th of May, 2009 (#1)
* Capital: Santa María (#2)
* Government Type: democratic republic (#3)
* Economy Type: market (#4)
* Head of State: President Agapito Pizzi
* Head of Government: the President is both chief of state and head of government
* Official Language(s): Spanish (#5)
* Official Religion: Roman Catholicism
* Constitution: yes
* Currency: balboa, $
* Summer Time: yes
* Time Zone: UTC -6
* Calling Code: +527
* Internet TLD: .paz

#1: Mothers' Day, Republic declared; de facto independence from Mexican autonomous republic predates this
#2: located at RL Veracruz; regional government over Costa Pazan territory of Russian-backed Mexican autonomous republic formerly located at Concepción del Costa Paz at RL Ciudad Victoria
#3: officially; actually a corrupt authoritarian junta
#4: but institutional corruption and racketeering skews market norms
#5: nahuatl, totonaca and huasteco widely spoken in some rural areas

Other notes: I'm aware that this is quite a leap in population compared with the RL territory claimed, but the claim is marginally larger than Bangladesh, and the population approximately two-thirds of Bangladesh's, while density is about half that of Malta, similar to Palestine, and only marginally greater than that of Taiwan. The north contains several major rivers, and the south experiences heavy rainfall, so it isn't as if I'm placing a hundred million people in a desert.
The # tags will be included in my factbook, when completed, and I realise they may not be suitable for the spreadsheet.


Edit: Introductory RP started!
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Postby Layarteb » Thu Nov 12, 2009 12:00 pm

You and I share a border now.
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Postby -Centrazia- » Thu Nov 12, 2009 12:13 pm

I think I need ideas to keep my intro RP running..

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Postby Costa Paz » Thu Nov 12, 2009 12:39 pm

Layarteb wrote:You and I share a border now.


Indeed. And you've only got me outnumbered ~13 to 1, and outmatched economically ~9 to 1 per capita, so I think you may as well surrender now :P

Speaking of ominously large neighbours, is RomeW still active in E-II?

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Postby Layarteb » Thu Nov 12, 2009 1:18 pm

-Centrazia- wrote:I think I need ideas to keep my intro RP running..

-Valepian


If you're using Centrazia for your nation then your population of Centrazia determines your land.
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