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Postby Sibirska » Fri Dec 11, 2009 4:10 pm

Layarteb wrote:
Sibirska wrote:I added a leader and a few more things that weren't on the last post.

Nation Name: The Republic of Sibirska
Demonym: Sibirskan or Sibersk
Population: 5,000,000
military size: 50,000ish (just a general number, I'll organize the military soon)
Independence/Founding Date: September 15, 1910
Maritime Boundary: 15 nautical miles
Capital: Tiblisi
Government Type: Parliamentary Democracy
Economy Type: mixed
Head of State: Chairman Noe Ramishvili
Head of Government: Chairman Noe Ramishvili
Official Language(s) Georgian
Official Religion: none
Largest Religion: Roman Catholic and islam
Constitution (yes/no): yes
Currency: lari: (ლ)(GEL)
Summer Time: no
Time Zone(s): (UTC+4)
Calling Code: 995
Internet TLD: .ge

Georgia:
South Ossetia, Abkhazia, and Adjara. I will have an RP up really soon, but I would rather do it one a good computer.
Turkey:
Artvin Province, Ardahan Province, Rize Province


And all of this is under 50,000 sq/mi?


Yes, Georgia and the Turkish parts are exactly 83997 km 2

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Postby Layarteb » Fri Dec 11, 2009 4:20 pm

Alright
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Postby Layarteb » Fri Dec 11, 2009 4:38 pm

Sibirska wrote:here is my intro.
viewtopic.php?ns=1&f=5&t=28285


Just an FYI I operate out of Incirlik but I don't think you're taking that part. The Empire would be willing to lend a hand perhaps.

If you want some backstory it was all controlled by the United Federation of Eurasia, along with the rest of the Middle East and Central Asia. They were a Parliamentary Democracy and secular. Capital was Ankara. Very close allies with the Empire.
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Postby Layarteb » Fri Dec 11, 2009 4:55 pm

Yeah I just blew up a satellite over the Pacific.
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Postby Sibirska » Fri Dec 11, 2009 5:25 pm

Layarteb wrote:
Sibirska wrote:here is my intro.
viewtopic.php?ns=1&f=5&t=28285


Just an FYI I operate out of Incirlik but I don't think you're taking that part. The Empire would be willing to lend a hand perhaps.

If you want some backstory it was all controlled by the United Federation of Eurasia, along with the rest of the Middle East and Central Asia. They were a Parliamentary Democracy and secular. Capital was Ankara. Very close allies with the Empire.


I wouldn't mind some help, but not until we invade our part of turkey.

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Postby Layarteb » Fri Dec 11, 2009 5:44 pm

Alright just give me a head's up when you need.

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Here's the ORBAT.
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Postby Arnhelm » Fri Dec 11, 2009 6:19 pm

Layarteb wrote:Yeah I just blew up a satellite over the Pacific.

Damn. I'm thinking this is going to turn into a dick-waving competition.

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Arnhelm wrote:
Layarteb wrote:Yeah I just blew up a satellite over the Pacific.

Damn. I'm thinking this is going to turn into a dick-waving competition.


We aren't really comparing military hardware to military hardware it's more like a game of Battle Chess.
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Postby Sibirska » Fri Dec 11, 2009 6:50 pm

The National Sibirskan Army: 35,700 personal
The National Sibirskan Navy: 5080 personal
The National Sibirskan Air Force: 1360 personal
Total: 42,140


That is the number of my military personal. And we do not have a national guard, it's not needed.

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Postby Layarteb » Fri Dec 11, 2009 7:03 pm

Sibirska wrote:The National Sibirskan Army: 35,700 personal
The National Sibirskan Navy: 5080 personal
The National Sibirskan Air Force: 1360 personal
Total: 42,140


That is the number of my military personal. And we do not have a national guard, it's not needed.


I think you're forgetting support personnel tool.
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Postby Sibirska » Fri Dec 11, 2009 7:20 pm

Layarteb wrote:
Sibirska wrote:The National Sibirskan Army: 35,700 personal
The National Sibirskan Navy: 5080 personal
The National Sibirskan Air Force: 1360 personal
Total: 42,140


That is the number of my military personal. And we do not have a national guard, it's not needed.


I think you're forgetting support personnel tool.


Let me fix that, I forgot that the air force and navy need communications and medical people, and a few armed guards.

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Postby Layarteb » Fri Dec 11, 2009 7:26 pm

Sibirska wrote:
Layarteb wrote:
Sibirska wrote:The National Sibirskan Army: 35,700 personal
The National Sibirskan Navy: 5080 personal
The National Sibirskan Air Force: 1360 personal
Total: 42,140


That is the number of my military personal. And we do not have a national guard, it's not needed.


I think you're forgetting support personnel tool.


Let me fix that, I forgot that the air force and navy need communications and medical people, and a few armed guards.


And mechanics, engineers, painters, deck hands, etc. An airbase alone may have up to 4,000 or 5,000 personnel attached to it in total if it's a big airbase.
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Postby Sibirska » Fri Dec 11, 2009 7:27 pm

The National Sibirskan Army: 35,700 personal
The National Sibirskan Navy: 8080 personal
The National Sibirskan Air Force: 3360 personal
Total: 47,140


Now the problem is fixed

By the way Layarteb, you can come in with right now if you want. I've just started the attack on South Ossetia.

In fact, anyone can join in either for or against me (although they'll have to recognize that I'm going to win).
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Postby Layarteb » Fri Dec 11, 2009 9:41 pm

You know why is my cable bill going up again? I do believe Monday I will be having a conversation with Cablevision. This is ridiculous. Why is it that customers of 4+ years get screwed but people coming in brand new reap the benefits we ought to be getting and thanks to NYC fail, I can't even get Time Warner. At least if Time Warner could compete with Cablevision then I'd see something. I could go through all the hassle of switching to Verizon though, that ought to save me some bucks.
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Postby Bavin » Fri Dec 11, 2009 10:10 pm

Layarteb wrote:You know why is my cable bill going up again? I do believe Monday I will be having a conversation with Cablevision. This is ridiculous. Why is it that customers of 4+ years get screwed but people coming in brand new reap the benefits we ought to be getting and thanks to NYC fail, I can't even get Time Warner. At least if Time Warner could compete with Cablevision then I'd see something. I could go through all the hassle of switching to Verizon though, that ought to save me some bucks.

This is FiOS eh?
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Postby Turkish Novera » Fri Dec 11, 2009 10:27 pm

Been watching this for a while, seems like a good way to work on my Rping:

Earth II Spreadsheet Information
Nation Name: The Federal Republic of Turkish Novera
Demonym Turkish Noveran
Population 5,000,000
Military Size 600,000 (War time) 50,000 (Peace Time)
Independence/Founding Date: December 19, 1944
Capital Iseria
Government Type Federal Republic
Economy Type Mixed
Head of State: Commissar Siraj Al-Din
Head of Government: Premier Kadhaf Gustovi
Official Language(s) Turkish
Official Religion: Christianity and Islam
Largest Religion: Roman Catholicism
Constitution Yes
Currency IIeroi ͤ
Summer Time (yes/no) No
Time Zone(s) -6
Calling Code 964
Internet TLD .nov

As for my Claims, if it is possible I would like to have the nation known as Turkey or at least parts of it. I will be begin to make thread soon.
The Federal Republic of Turkish Novera

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Postby Bavin » Fri Dec 11, 2009 10:28 pm

Turkish Novera wrote:Been watching this for a while, seems like a good way to work on my Rping:

Earth II Spreadsheet Information
Nation Name: The Federal Republic of Turkish Novera
Demonym Turkish Noveran
Population 5,000,000
Military Size 600,000 (War time) 50,000 (Peace Time)
Independence/Founding Date: December 19, 1944
Capital Iseria
Government Type Federal Republic
Economy Type Mixed
Head of State: Commissar Siraj Al-Din
Head of Government: Premier Kadhaf Gustovi
Official Language(s) Turkish
Official Religion: Christianity and Islam
Largest Religion: Roman Catholicism
Constitution Yes
Currency IIeroi ͤ
Summer Time (yes/no) No
Time Zone(s) -6
Calling Code 964
Internet TLD .nov

As for my Claims, if it is possible I would like to have the nation known as Turkey or at least parts of it. I will be begin to make thread soon.

I suggest you look into which parts of Turkey are claimed bu Sibirska.
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Postby Sibirska » Fri Dec 11, 2009 10:36 pm

I only claim a small part of Turkey.

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Postby Achesia » Fri Dec 11, 2009 10:40 pm

Hey sorry for not being able to post anything today Riverea, but I should be able to do something tomorrow.

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Postby Sibirska » Fri Dec 11, 2009 10:41 pm

I'm actually going to change my name to the Republic of Georgia.

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Postby Bavin » Fri Dec 11, 2009 11:24 pm

This may seem like a random question, but what's the status on Siberia?
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Postby Drvarska » Sat Dec 12, 2009 1:50 am

Sibirska wrote:The National Sibirskan Army: 35,700 personal
The National Sibirskan Navy: 8080 personal
The National Sibirskan Air Force: 3360 personal
Total: 47,140


Now the problem is fixed

By the way Layarteb, you can come in with right now if you want. I've just started the attack on South Ossetia.

In fact, anyone can join in either for or against me (although they'll have to recognize that I'm going to win).


I looked into your small arms inventory and I feel that this will be a large logistical nightmare. The firearms you have chosen vary over a broad range of calibers which would make it very difficult to supply your troops. Below I made it easier for you to see for yourself what I mean, they can be categorized in groups by which they have the same cartridge.

Assault Rifles:

AKS-74U - 5.45x39mm NATO

M4 Carbine - 5.56x45mm NATO
Tavor Tar-21 - 5.56x45mm NATO
H&K G-36 - 5.56x45mm NATO

Machine Guns:

PK - 7.62x54mm NATO

IMI Negev - 5.56x45mm NATO

NSV - 12.7x108mm (This can stay as the 50 cal. round is most common among all armies of the world)

You would be better off classifying your small arms arsenal by staying with Eastern or Western weapons, a mix of the two can turn out to be a lot of work and manpower in producing multiple calibres. When you researching to build a military, this is one vital factor you must adopt when choosing your firearms. Hope this helps.
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Postby Sibirska » Sat Dec 12, 2009 2:41 am

Oh i knew that, and I was actually going to post a tread (when I'm done with my intro.) about procuring more eastern weapons (russian style) cause my soldiers are better trained in soviet and other eastern styled weapons. the Serbian company Zastava would be a company which I would consider.

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Postby Cotland » Sat Dec 12, 2009 4:13 am

Drvarska wrote:
Sibirska wrote:The National Sibirskan Army: 35,700 personal
The National Sibirskan Navy: 8080 personal
The National Sibirskan Air Force: 3360 personal
Total: 47,140


Now the problem is fixed

By the way Layarteb, you can come in with right now if you want. I've just started the attack on South Ossetia.

In fact, anyone can join in either for or against me (although they'll have to recognize that I'm going to win).


I looked into your small arms inventory and I feel that this will be a large logistical nightmare. The firearms you have chosen vary over a broad range of calibers which would make it very difficult to supply your troops. Below I made it easier for you to see for yourself what I mean, they can be categorized in groups by which they have the same cartridge.

Assault Rifles:

AKS-74U - 5.45x39mm NATO

M4 Carbine - 5.56x45mm NATO
Tavor Tar-21 - 5.56x45mm NATO
H&K G-36 - 5.56x45mm NATO

Machine Guns:

PK - 7.62x54mm NATO

IMI Negev - 5.56x45mm NATO

NSV - 12.7x108mm (This can stay as the 50 cal. round is most common among all armies of the world)

You would be better off classifying your small arms arsenal by staying with Eastern or Western weapons, a mix of the two can turn out to be a lot of work and manpower in producing multiple calibres. When you researching to build a military, this is one vital factor you must adopt when choosing your firearms. Hope this helps.


Warsaw Pact type calibers are not NATO calibers, as they were developed and originally used by the nations of the Warsaw Pact, which you'll remember (unless you're too young to have had history in school yet or you simply suck in history) was created in 1955 by the Soviet Union as a reaction to the Western Allies' establishment of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) in 1949. There are quite a bit of wrong info in your post, so I'll fix it for you right away and keep it here for reference.

WARSAW PACT
- 5.45x39mm Russian
- 7.62x39mm Soviet
- 7.62x54mmR Soviet
- 12.7x108mm Soviet
- 14.5x115mm

NATO
- 5.56x45mm NATO
- 7.62x51mm NATO
- 12.7x99mm NATO

The 12.7mm caliber were used by both NATO and the Soviets, but they are not interchangable due to the larger Russian bullet and propellant charge, which would cause the barrel to blow if you were to try to fire one from say a M2 heavy machine gun. That is, if you could even get the bloody thing to fit, which you can't due to the 12.7x108mm being almost a full centimeter longer than the 12.7x99mm, and thus too big to get into the mechanism of a x99-operating weapon.

Your main issue with the many different types of rounds causing logistical nightmares is quite valid though, and I second that sentiment completely.

Additionally, you have WAY too few support personnel in the Air Force. Keep in mind that if you expect to have a half-way decent Air Force that can operate its aircraft, you need to have enough maintenance personnel to keep the aircraft going. Most fighters require between 15-20 personnel per aircraft to get this done, and many times that as the aircraft get bigger and more complicated. For instance, a AWACS type aircraft require over a hundred maintenance personnel per one aircraft in order to keep it operational and in optimal condition. A transport such as the C-130 require 40+ personnel per aircraft. This is in addition to the base personnel, which you need in order to keep an airbase operational, and include among other things air traffic controllers, engineers, security personnel, air defence personnel, logistical support personnel, food service personnel, clerks, medical personnel, et cetera. Granted, for a small country like Georgia you're probably not going to have much more than one to three airbases, but the point still stands.

Similar for the Navy. You need personnel on shore in order to maintain your ships when they're in port (between 40-80% of their lifetime, depending on how active your Navy is and how large your operations budget for the Navy is - fuel is expensive).

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