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Postby Bavin » Sun Nov 29, 2009 2:59 am

The Eurydicean Empire wrote:
Bavin wrote:North and South Korea Argentina eh? Sounds like fun....


I think it would be fun, we'd have a few proxy wars after I get my claim on Chile (Their are some supporters of the Pan-Latin movement that I would like to unite).

After a unified struggle against RomeW to break their control over South America, to be sure.
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Postby Layarteb » Sun Nov 29, 2009 10:19 am

I would strongly suggest you review the decrees because it seems neither of you have read them.
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Postby Cotland » Sun Nov 29, 2009 11:33 am

New uniforms for the Royal Cottish Army

OK, so I'm not really satisfied with the uniforms I've currently got for the Army, so I made some new ones based on the new Norwegian Army service uniform that will begin being issued in early 2010. Since quite a few of my military traditions and stuff are based on those of the Norwegian Armed Forces, it seemed only fair to use the new service uniform as an inspiration.

There are four types of soldier classifications in the Cottish Army:

- Generals, here represented by a Major General
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- Officers, here represented by a Lieutenant in the Cavalry
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- Non-Commissioned Officers, here represented by a Sergeant 1st Class in the Artillery
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- Enlisted, here represented by a Vice Corporal in the Infantry
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As you can see, the uniforms are mostly identical, save for minor details such as rank and branch insignia, branch-coloured piping on the collar, and the beret. Almost all soldiers in the Army are issued the mountain blue beret, relying on the beret flash to reveal the branch of the individual soldiers. The exception are the Cavalry, who are permitted to wear a black beret; the Special Forces, who are permitted to wear a tan beret instead of the standard issue; and the Military Police, who are permitted to wear a red beret instead of the standard issue beret.

The beret flash has branch colours which indicate which of the branches the soldier belongs to, with the monogram of the Cottish monarch over the flash. Currently, the Armed Forces are transitioning beret monograms from that of the late King Haakon VIII to the new monarch, Sverre II who despite his young age is officially the Monarch of the Realm of Cotland, and thus Supreme Commander of the Armed Forces.

- The Beret Flashes currently in service with the Army.
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A little note. The Artillery Corps includes both normal artillery, air defence artillery, tactical missile artillery, and radar troops, while the Cavalry Corps includes both armoured, reconnaissance, intelligence and aviation troops.

All pictures can be seen here (link)

Any thoughts?

(Apologies for the slightly blurry images. Photobucket is acting up.)
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Postby Brydog » Sun Nov 29, 2009 11:40 am

EDIT: I saw the beret thing
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Postby The Eurydicean Empire » Sun Nov 29, 2009 11:43 am

Layarteb wrote:I would strongly suggest you review the decrees because it seems neither of you have read them.


I've only claimed lands that are open. Although, if you could be more specific on what I should read so I'm not continuously making the same mistakes.

PS, I have read all the first few posts.
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Postby Layarteb » Sun Nov 29, 2009 11:50 am

The Eurydicean Empire wrote:
Layarteb wrote:I would strongly suggest you review the decrees because it seems neither of you have read them.


I've only claimed lands that are open. Although, if you could be more specific on what I should read so I'm not continuously making the same mistakes.

PS, I have read all the first few posts.


Decree 13.
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Postby The Eurydicean Empire » Sun Nov 29, 2009 12:18 pm

thank you. Although i wasn't planning on attacking anyone until after I've finished my intro RP.

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Postby Bavin » Sun Nov 29, 2009 12:38 pm

The Eurydicean Empire wrote:thank you. Although i wasn't planning on attacking anyone until after I've finished my intro RP.

Neither was I.
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Postby Achesia » Sun Nov 29, 2009 4:15 pm

Heres my factbook: Link WIP

Intro RP to finish soon.
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Postby Earth_ Two » Sun Nov 29, 2009 4:19 pm

Updates


Last Official Update: Sun Nov 15, 2009 7:20 pm EST

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New Claim Status
Achesia
  • Claim Posted [Yes]
  • RP Posted [Yes]
  • Spreadsheet Info Posted [Yes]
  • RP Completed [No]

Bavin
  • Claim Posted [Yes]
  • RP Posted [Yes]
  • Spreadsheet Info Posted [Yes]
  • RP Completed [No]

Costa Paz
  • Claim Posted [Yes]
  • RP Posted [Yes]
  • Spreadsheet Info Posted [Yes]
  • RP Completed [No]

Drvarska
  • Claim Posted [Yes]
  • RP Posted [Yes]
  • Spreadsheet Info Posted [Yes]
  • RP Completed [No]

Irakalla
  • Claim Posted [Yes]
  • RP Posted [Yes]
  • Spreadsheet Info Posted [Yes]
  • RP Completed [No]

Nalodine
  • Claim Posted [Yes]
  • RP Posted [Yes]
  • Spreadsheet Info Posted [Yes]
  • RP Completed [No]

No Taxes
  • Claim Posted [Yes]
  • RP Posted [Yes]
  • Spreadsheet Info Posted [Yes]
  • RP Completed [No]

The Eurydicean Empire
  • Claim Posted [Yes]
  • RP Posted [Yes]
  • Spreadsheet Info Posted [Yes]
  • RP Completed [No]

Veyska
  • Claim Posted [Yes]
  • RP Posted [Yes]
  • Spreadsheet Info Posted [Yes]
  • RP Completed [No]

Zeyditch
  • Claim Posted [Yes]
  • RP Posted [Yes]
  • Spreadsheet Info Posted [Yes]
  • RP Completed [No]


General Updates
  • Achesia: Factbook added.
  • Bavin: Claim, RP, and spreadsheet information added but calling code 54 is already taken.
  • Irakalla: The spreadsheet needs the time zones of your nation and your military size.
  • Khorsun: RP added. I updated the spreadsheet with your population and military but you do realize that is a military size of 4.24% so you are higher than RL North Korea.
  • Klievan: The spreadsheet needs your military size and the RP for your claim.
  • Leavatia: The spreadsheet needs your military size and your claim has not had any updates in nearly 30 days. Will you be continuing with Earth II?
  • Nalodine: The spreadsheet needs your military size.
  • Rhodesian States: The spreadsheet needs your independence date, official language(s), economy type, and military size.
  • Riveara: RP & Factbook thread added.
  • The Eurydicean Empire: The spreadsheet needs your largest religion. RP added. Name changed.
  • The Fanboyists: The spreadsheet needs your heads of state and government.
  • Veyska: The spreadsheet needs your nation time zone(s).
  • Zeyditch: Your claim could be invalidated before the next update due to inactivity.

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Postby Layarteb » Sun Nov 29, 2009 5:43 pm

Cot, a few things for your post:

  • Rangers are wearing Ghillie suit camouflage with the same IR/Thermal-blocking netting applications as the defenders
  • No Rangers deployed to the runway, only the perimeter
  • Rangers haven't traversed to the runway yet likewise the AC-32B Atlas hasn't opened fire yet either
  • All vehicles on the runway have been destroyed by the Little Bird strafing runways and emplaced sandbagged positions (if there were any) got their own as well
  • Tarmac vehicles are in the same shape but some of the more hidden ones are probably still okay
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Postby Cotland » Sun Nov 29, 2009 6:17 pm

Right.
- Ignore the vehicles being blown up then, as the end results should be more or less the same (cratered and thus useless runway).
- Thermal/IR blocking techniques employed by military uniforms don't cover the face, and they don't completely block the thermal radiation emitted by the body. They subdue it greatly and help the wearer blend in with the surroundings, but they don't completely camouflage them. The muzzle flashes from the weapons being fired are also tell-tale give-aways of the Ranger's position. Snipers will engage them as they become visible and enter range.
- Landmines will be detonated by the Rangers as they step onto them, as they aren't remotely detonated but rather triggered by pressure detonation.
- I wrote my post under the assumption that you were already on the tarmac/runway, as would be the logical and textbook course of action for an airfield assault. I don't think you specified that you weren't landing on the tarmac/runway in your post, since your Rangers were taking cover behind the burning trucks and what-not that were, you guessed it, on the tarmac and runway...

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Postby Layarteb » Sun Nov 29, 2009 6:55 pm

Cotland wrote:Right.
- Ignore the vehicles being blown up then, as the end results should be more or less the same (cratered and thus useless runway).
- Thermal/IR blocking techniques employed by military uniforms don't cover the face, and they don't completely block the thermal radiation emitted by the body. They subdue it greatly and help the wearer blend in with the surroundings, but they don't completely camouflage them. The muzzle flashes from the weapons being fired are also tell-tale give-aways of the Ranger's position. Snipers will engage them as they become visible and enter range.
- Landmines will be detonated by the Rangers as they step onto them, as they aren't remotely detonated but rather triggered by pressure detonation.
- I wrote my post under the assumption that you were already on the tarmac/runway, as would be the logical and textbook course of action for an airfield assault. I don't think you specified that you weren't landing on the tarmac/runway in your post, since your Rangers were taking cover behind the burning trucks and what-not that were, you guessed it, on the tarmac and runway...


* Yeah I said they would be on the perimeter and when they made their advance on the runway they would be using the blown up vehicles as cover and they would have help (A-15s)
* Those with sniper rifles have suppressors and those with the assault rifles have the flash suppressors on the muzzle already but some have actual suppressors, the LMGs & SAWs have flash suppressors as well obviously the MGL and the Shotguns won't have these at all and neither will most pistols (save for the sniper guys)
* They have the uniforms + Ghillie suits over + IR camouflage netting within that to keep them down, more of the same stuff your guys are using and when you use facepaint you can hide your face (in lieu of mud which is amazingly good against thermal IR but I don't have any of that here, no rivers, that would be more of a sniper or LRRP thing and this ain't that)
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Postby Layarteb » Sun Nov 29, 2009 6:59 pm

I think I might be retiring the 28 Earthquake Flight II BBGNs and 36 Mexia BCN/BCGNs but what to replace them with since I'm losing a shit ton of VLS cells with them

Each Earthquake Flight II carries 80 VLS cells
Each Mexia Flight IV carries 48 VLS cells
Each Mexia Flight V carries 248 VLS cells

I could replace them with the Unforgiven CGN (212 VLS cells) or Voodoo DDGN (128 VLS cells) or mix them in you know...Hmmm...
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Postby Cotland » Sun Nov 29, 2009 7:22 pm

Buy moar destroyers to replace them. Not only do you
- get as many if not more VLS cells spread out over several more platforms, thus increasing survivability
- get at least as much bang for a fraction of the buck and tonnage
- require only a fraction of the manpower, thus cutting operating and pay costs by a lot

You also get more escorts for your capital ships, which is always a good thing.

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Postby Layarteb » Sun Nov 29, 2009 7:25 pm

Cotland wrote:Buy moar destroyers to replace them. Not only do you
- get as many if not more VLS cells spread out over several more platforms, thus increasing survivability
- get at least as much bang for a fraction of the buck and tonnage
- require only a fraction of the manpower, thus cutting operating and pay costs by a lot

You also get more escorts for your capital ships, which is always a good thing.


Yeah I could replace the Earthquake and Mexia Flight IV with Voodoo destroyers and the Flight V with the Unforgiven specifically...Voodoo's also have a 155mm AGS/ETC and the Unforgiven has 127mm AGS/ETC I mean it's no 18" or whatever the Mexia had like 14" maybe but it's still good... If I want the OMG firepower I'll use one of the four Overburdened's that I have floating around.
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Postby Layarteb » Sun Nov 29, 2009 8:08 pm

Alright that's done leaving my navy now with 1,573 total ships (not including 308 HLCAC and 160 LST) and 8,559 aircraft. I think I'm definitely done on the Navy for a long while. I've also just retired all of my F-41C Defenders for F-57B Wraiths (Havenfighter).

HNM how is this?

2nd Fleet
Pacific Ocean

  • Arsenal: 9
  • County: 8
  • Dnalkrad Flight II: 18
  • Emperor: 9
  • Enterprise Flight II: 3
  • Gotham: 8
  • Hampton: 9
  • Heretic: 18
  • Hunter*: 15
  • Independence: 4
  • Jackal: 16
  • Luna: 2
  • Ocean: 8
  • Odin Flight II: 8
  • Overburdened: 2
  • Relief: 3
  • Supply: 13
  • Unforgiven: 22
  • Venom*: 27
  • Verrazano Flight II: 18
  • Vigilant: 3
  • Virginia Flight II: 20
  • Virginia Flight III: 9
  • Voodoo: 29
  • Wilson: 41
  • AH-99B Anasazi: 96
  • CH-53K Super Stallion II: 200
  • EF-35E Lightning II: 40
  • F-14F Super Tomcat: 72
  • F-19D Ghostrider*: 36
  • F-24D Knightowl*: 36
  • F-35F Lightning II: 144
  • F-56B Savage: 120
  • F-57B Wraith: 96
  • HV-24C Bulldog: 160
  • MC-11B CSA: 20
  • ME-11C CSA: 20
  • MH-60R Sea Hawk: 156
  • MH-60S Knight Hawk: 115
  • MK-11F CSA: 20
  • MQ-14A Firefly*: 44
  • MQ-8C Fire Scout: 337
  • MQ-8D Fire Scout: 36
  • MS-11A CSA: 20
  • RA-5E Vigilante: 12
  • SH-102A Sea Lord: 161
  • UH-95A Super Huey: 160



3rd Fleet
Indian Ocean
  • Acheron: 1
  • Arsenal: 8
  • Azazel: 1
  • Caracas: 1
  • County: 6
  • Dnalkrad Flight II: 17
  • Emperor: 9
  • Enterprise Flight II: 4
  • Gotham: 6
  • Hampton: 9
  • Heretic: 18
  • Hunter*: 15
  • Independence: 3
  • Jackal: 12
  • Luna: 1
  • Ocean: 6
  • Odin Flight II: 6
  • Overburdened: 1
  • Relief: 3
  • Supply: 12
  • Unforgiven: 21
  • Venom*: 26
  • Verrazano Flight II: 17
  • Vigilant: 3
  • Virginia Flight II: 18
  • Virginia Flight III: 10
  • Voodoo: 27
  • Wilson: 32
  • Ynoga: 1
  • AH-99B Anasazi: 82
  • CH-53K Super Stallion II: 150
  • EF-35E Lightning II: 40
  • F-14F Super Tomcat: 96
  • F-19D Ghostrider*: 48
  • F-24D Knightowl*: 48
  • F-35F Lightning II: 114
  • F-56B Savage: 120
  • F-57B Wraith: 108
  • HV-24C Bulldog: 126
  • MC-11B CSA: 20
  • ME-11C CSA: 20
  • MH-60R Sea Hawk: 138
  • MH-60S Knight Hawk: 103
  • MK-11F CSA: 20
  • MQ-14A Firefly*: 52
  • MQ-8C Fire Scout: 311
  • MQ-8D Fire Scout: 34
  • MS-11A CSA: 20
  • RA-5E Vigilante: 16
  • SH-102A Sea Lord: 146
  • UH-95A Super Huey: 120


* denotes that the system is Top Secret IC and not even its existence is known to the public

616 ships between the two (476 surface, 140 submarine)
4,033 aircraft (1,688 fixed wing, 2,345 rotary wing)
Total displacement: 19,849,013 long tons

HLCAC (88 in 2nd & 66 in 3rd)
LST-1100 (44 in 2nd & 33 in 3rd)
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Postby Cresilia » Sun Nov 29, 2009 8:18 pm

I would like to claim Eritrea

Nation Name: The Grand Duchy of Cresilia
Demonym: Cresilian
Population: 6 million
Largest Religion: Islam
Military Size: ~2% of population
Independence/Founding Date: November 30th 2009
Capital: Asmara
Government Type: Monarchy/Plutocracy
Economy Type: Capitalism
Head of State: His Majesty Emperor Christos the IV
Head of Government: Prime Minister Mahmoud al-Fatib
Official Language: Arabic
Official Religion: Christianity
Constitution (yes/no): Yes
Currency: Cresilian Standard Pound- $CSP
Summer Time (yes/no): No
Time Zone(s): UTC+3
Calling Code: +33
Internet TLD: .crs
The Republic of Cresilia

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Postby The Eurydicean Empire » Sun Nov 29, 2009 8:44 pm

I made a post that shows off our indigenous weapons. They're all real, but with different names. Kinda like the tanks I use, they're already being used by the Argentinian army but I have just changed the name and the company that builds them.
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Postby Khorsun » Sun Nov 29, 2009 11:20 pm

Ugh. Let's drop my military number to 450,000 then for now.
Hal Tabalkha dhala Mozhana Khorsunatum [The Republic of the Khorsuni Nation]
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Postby Phillippanoa » Mon Nov 30, 2009 1:54 pm

I'm eventually planning on expanding my territory now that I've reached 500 million pop. I will officially post my claims and possibly some spreadsheet changes once I've finished the take-over in West Africa. I was thinking of expanding to Burkina Faso, Togo, Benin, Cocos Islands, Chagos Archipelago, Gibraltar, Mayotte, Seychelles, Sumatra, which, unless my calculations are completely off, is well in my limit. I'm not too sure about how Sumatra would fit in with my story. But I suppose I can always replace it with Cameroon and other territories in Africa. Does anyone have any problems with this or any suggestions?

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Postby Achesia » Mon Nov 30, 2009 2:07 pm

So, I’m gonna try and post something in the intro thread sometime tomorrow as far as the diplomatic talks go, I plan on finishing it possibly Thursday. Still trying to struggle through my 9 page paper on Bernard Madoff.... could I have picked a more boring subject :P Martha Stewart prob would have been more exciting.

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Postby Hi No Moto » Mon Nov 30, 2009 2:42 pm

Phillippanoa wrote:I'm eventually planning on expanding my territory now that I've reached 500 million pop. I will officially post my claims and possibly some spreadsheet changes once I've finished the take-over in West Africa. I was thinking of expanding to Burkina Faso, Togo, Benin, Cocos Islands, Chagos Archipelago, Gibraltar, Mayotte, Seychelles, Sumatra, which, unless my calculations are completely off, is well in my limit. I'm not too sure about how Sumatra would fit in with my story. But I suppose I can always replace it with Cameroon and other territories in Africa. Does anyone have any problems with this or any suggestions?


The Cocos Islands are controlled by Khorsun. And interested in Sumatra are we?? Well you might have to prepare for some resistance to that claim, as you may have noticed I'm gunning for the Pacific.

On another note, I've finished the "Deepening Shadow" RP establishing my claims on some of the islands in the Pacifc. With that done I'll let you all know I've finished on plans for my Fourth Phase of Expansion and will be beginning them very shortly.

Indonesia will at last taste the fury of the Hi No Moton Empire! (That Includes Sumatara btw Phill :p)

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Postby Bavin » Mon Nov 30, 2009 6:33 pm

I'm setting up my post war military, and for no discernible reason began with my navy, which I allocated approx. 20,000 personnel. I just have a quick question, do you guys think that is enough personnel to operate these ships?

2x Helicopter Assault Ships
5x Missile Cruisers
23x Destroyers
4x Minesweepers
6x Attack Submarines
1x Missile Submarine
15x Utility vessels, various types.
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Postby Achesia » Mon Nov 30, 2009 6:43 pm

Bavin wrote:I'm setting up my post war military, and for no discernible reason began with my navy, which I allocated approx. 20,000 personnel. I just have a quick question, do you guys think that is enough personnel to operate these ships?

2x Helicopter Assault Ships
5x Missile Cruisers
23x Destroyers
4x Minesweepers
6x Attack Submarines
1x Missile Submarine
15x Utility vessels, various types.


I'd say your navy is just a tad big, Id cut down on the amount of destroyers and cruisers. The upkeep on those two platforms alone would kill your budget. I dont even think RL Argentina has that big of a navy.
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