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Millsa
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Postby Millsa » Sun Jan 30, 2011 10:53 am

So any wars going on with you guys

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Postby St George of England » Sun Jan 30, 2011 11:01 am

Millsa wrote:So any wars going on with you guys

Apparently, CAPITERN has been ordered to disband by a commie alliance, I'd like someone to have a search for it.
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Postby Millsa » Sun Jan 30, 2011 11:05 am

St George of England wrote:
Millsa wrote:So any wars going on with you guys

Apparently, CAPITERN has been ordered to disband by a commie alliance, I'd like someone to have a search for it.

CAPITERN? I've never heard of it but I'll scope it out.

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Postby Millsa » Sun Jan 30, 2011 11:10 am

Upon looking into it, CAPITERN is definately being called out by a Communist Alliance. Thats all that has happened. At this point we should probably just watch and wait before we throw ourselves in.
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Postby St George of England » Sun Jan 30, 2011 11:14 am

Millsa wrote:Upon looking into it, CAPITERN is definately being called out by a Communist Alliance. Thats all that has happened. At this point we should probably just watch and wait before we throw ourselves in.

Agreed.
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Postby Millsa » Sun Jan 30, 2011 11:17 am

St George of England wrote:
Millsa wrote:Upon looking into it, CAPITERN is definately being called out by a Communist Alliance. Thats all that has happened. At this point we should probably just watch and wait before we throw ourselves in.

Agreed.

Damn has there ever been a full scale world war like the May Day War?

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Postby St George of England » Sun Jan 30, 2011 11:19 am

Millsa wrote:
St George of England wrote:Agreed.

Damn has there ever been a full scale world war like the May Day War?

Quendishpere War maybe?
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Postby Millsa » Sun Jan 30, 2011 11:49 am

St George of England wrote:
Millsa wrote:Damn has there ever been a full scale world war like the May Day War?

Quendishpere War maybe?

Not really, it was snuffed out early on. It seems that Nations hate getting in to large scale war because keeping tabs on 15 to 30 Nations actions and movements is nearly impossible not to mention communication becomes very difficult with several nations.

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Postby Aquilinia » Sun Jan 30, 2011 11:59 am

They want to do a new May Day War, I think...
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Postby Laneige » Sun Jan 30, 2011 12:00 pm

I had read the charter and there is no articles relating to the issue of under what circumstances a nation is classified as a provisional member. So I guess I can only ask. *shrugs*

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Postby Millsa » Sun Jan 30, 2011 12:02 pm

Aquilinia wrote:They want to do a new May Day War, I think...

Yeah but I dont want to get involved in that I think

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Postby Bokaya » Sun Jan 30, 2011 1:05 pm

I'll talk to NL about it, obviously, but I want it known that Bokaya pledges her full support to CAPITERN and will do everything in her power to steer the Pact down a similar route.

Someone post a link to the thread, and the threat.

SGoE, I want a full report on the state of the UPF by tuesday at the latest.

NL, if you're reading this, please update the OP so we can get a better idea of who'se who and what our resources are.

Crontor, since you're the awesome one around here, I want you to draft up a non-aggression pact between us and the Conglomerate. Don't want them sticking their noses in when we're at war.

All Pact members are henceforth advised to pull out of any conflicts that they are currently involved in. Such a lull is not in my power to order as it would violate our rules on National Soverignty, but I strongly reccomend that you do as I say. Deputy founder, and all that jazz.

New members and provisionals, any emergency donations to either the coffers or the UPF are welcome.

Trade and economics are all well and good, but it's time to take some direct action against the communist threat. Let this be our message to the world, and let no-one ignore it.

Hail to the Pact!
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Postby Legeonas » Sun Jan 30, 2011 1:42 pm

Bokaya wrote:I'll talk to NL about it, obviously, but I want it known that Bokaya pledges her full support to CAPITERN and will do everything in her power to steer the Pact down a similar route.

Someone post a link to the thread, and the threat.

SGoE, I want a full report on the state of the UPF by tuesday at the latest.

NL, if you're reading this, please update the OP so we can get a better idea of who'se who and what our resources are.

Crontor, since you're the awesome one around here, I want you to draft up a non-aggression pact between us and the Conglomerate. Don't want them sticking their noses in when we're at war.

All Pact members are henceforth advised to pull out of any conflicts that they are currently involved in. Such a lull is not in my power to order as it would violate our rules on National Soverignty, but I strongly reccomend that you do as I say. Deputy founder, and all that jazz.

New members and provisionals, any emergency donations to either the coffers or the UPF are welcome.

Trade and economics are all well and good, but it's time to take some direct action against the communist threat. Let this be our message to the world, and let no-one ignore it.

Hail to the Pact!


Hail to the Pact? :eyebrow: I understand you're doing what you have to, and you're Deputy Founder (so I should really shut my mouth :P), but I'd get a better of idea of who the threat is, how strong they are, how the Cong is going to react, and what the members think, before you charge head first into battle. Communists are beaten through intelligence, which they lack, not through guns, which is the one thing they don't lack.

EDIT: That being said, you're Deputy Founder, so chain o' command and all that, the Pact will follow your decision (and NL's, obviously). I just advise caution before charging into a massive clusterfuck.
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Postby Bokaya » Sun Jan 30, 2011 1:55 pm

The threat is the Serovskaya Pact, whom we've come into contact with before. We (I) threatened them, and issued a cease and desist edict that was overturned by NL on the basis that they were a peaceful alliance dedicated to trade and not warmongering.

HOWEVER... after heading over to the thread to read the actual message that was sent, I've concluded that they're a bunch of liars and hyppocrites (yeah, I can't spell). It's nothing if not warmongering, matie. We need to nip it in the bud.

I agree with you wholeheartedly that, IRL, communism is best dealt with with brains, not brawn. But this is NS. War is the only thing that even attracts people's attentions, hehe. Besides, a lot of members have been spoiling for a fight lately, so why not give them one?

Oh, and you're right about the chain of command. You questioned me, so there must be consequences...

Deduct 3 awesome points from your chart. That's an order.
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Postby Millsa » Sun Jan 30, 2011 1:56 pm

Bokaya wrote:The threat is the Serovskaya Pact, whom we've come into contact with before. We (I) threatened them, and issued a cease and desist edict that was overturned by NL on the basis that they were a peaceful alliance dedicated to trade and not warmongering.

HOWEVER... after heading over to the thread to read the actual message that was sent, I've concluded that they're a bunch of liars and hyppocrites (yeah, I can't spell). It's nothing if not warmongering, matie. We need to nip it in the bud.

I agree with you wholeheartedly that, IRL, communism is best dealt with with brains, not brawn. But this is NS. War is the only thing that even attracts people's attentions, hehe. Besides, a lot of members have been spoiling for a fight lately, so why not give them one?

Oh, and you're right about the chain of command. You questioned me, so there must be consequences...

Deduct 3 awesome points from your chart. That's an order.

So what were going to war?

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Postby Bokaya » Sun Jan 30, 2011 1:57 pm

No. Just preparing.

For now.... *evil laugh*
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Postby St George of England » Sun Jan 30, 2011 1:58 pm

You want me to issues Communique when time comes?
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Postby Legeonas » Sun Jan 30, 2011 2:00 pm

Bokaya wrote:Deduct 3 awesome points from your chart. That's an order.


*cry*
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Postby Aquilinia » Sun Jan 30, 2011 2:42 pm

The Aquiline Guard will be ready when the Pact calls upon them.
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Postby Veceria » Sun Jan 30, 2011 2:47 pm

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Postby Crontor » Sun Jan 30, 2011 3:06 pm

Bokaya wrote:Crontor, since you're the awesome one around here, I want you to draft up a non-aggression pact between us and the Conglomerate. Don't want them sticking their noses in when we're at war.


I will do that asap. I will also draft up our new budget based on new provisional members and other members. Plus, if we are going to war, the war tax should be put into effect.

And i would not call me awesome...
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Postby Crontor » Sun Jan 30, 2011 4:11 pm

Official Communique of the Federation of Crontor;

To the Esteemed and Honored Members of the Conglomerate;

The Federation of Crontor, acting on behalf of the Steel Pact, would see fit to inform the powerful and righteous entity known as the Conglomerate, that we seek to enter a treaty of non-aggression between our two powerful alliances. This treaty would be mutually beneficial, as we wish to ensure that no blood is shed due to our political, ideological, or other such differences. We hope that you see the benefits of such a treaty, as unecessary wars, fought for unecessary reasons, leave neither of us gaining anything worth the losses undertaken. The terms of the treaty would be as follows, but we are open to commentary and compromise:

1). All nations, whether provisional or full, of both the Steel Pact and the Conglomerate, are to henceforth cease any hostilities that as of now, may be present.

2). War is not to be declared on a member of both parties so long as that nation in question is still aligned with that party. To clarify, no Steel Pact nation is allowed, by this treaty, to enter into a state of war with a member nation of the Conglomerate, and vice versa.

3). Also in accordance with this treaty, no nation is to undertake acts of piracy against another nations shipping, or fund acts of terrorism. This goes for all nations in both alliances

We hope that you find the terms of the treaty acceptable, and we eagerly await your response.

Thank you;

Signed;

Alan Blackwell: Crontorian Representative to the Steel Pact

President Christian Cranico: President of the Federation of Crontor
Supreme Commander Rockepeller: Leader of the Crontorian Armed Forces
Prime Minister Albert Danstor: Acting Prime Minister



This is the communique i sent them...you like?

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Postby Millsa » Sun Jan 30, 2011 4:41 pm

Crontor wrote:Official Communique of the Federation of Crontor;

To the Esteemed and Honored Members of the Conglomerate;

The Federation of Crontor, acting on behalf of the Steel Pact, would see fit to inform the powerful and righteous entity known as the Conglomerate, that we seek to enter a treaty of non-aggression between our two powerful alliances. This treaty would be mutually beneficial, as we wish to ensure that no blood is shed due to our political, ideological, or other such differences. We hope that you see the benefits of such a treaty, as unecessary wars, fought for unecessary reasons, leave neither of us gaining 1). All nations, whether provisional or full, of both the Steel Pact and the Conglomerate, are to henceforth cease any hostilities that as of now, may be present.

2). War is not to be declared on a member of both parties so long as that nation in question is still aligned with that party. To clarify, no Steel Pact nation is allowed, by this treaty, to enter into a state of war with a member nation of the Conglomerate, and vice versa.

3). Also in accordance with this treaty, no nation is to undertake acts of piracy against another nations shipping, or fund acts of terrorism. This goes for all nations in both anything worth the losses undertaken. The terms of the treaty would be as follows, but we are open to commentary and compromise:

alliances

We hope that you find the terms of the treaty acceptable, and we eagerly await your response.

Thank you;

Signed;

Alan Blackwell: Crontorian Representative to the Steel Pact

President Christian Cranico: President of the Federation of Crontor
Supreme Commander Rockepeller: Leader of the Crontorian Armed Forces
Prime Minister Albert Danstor: Acting Prime Minister



This is the communique i sent them...you like?

I just read there responce back to us. It's not pretty

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Postby Crontor » Sun Jan 30, 2011 4:57 pm

Yea, i read that too. Maybe next time St George should post.

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Postby Cartavesqa » Sun Jan 30, 2011 5:23 pm

Crontor wrote:Yea, i read that too. Maybe next time St George should post.

The cong don't work like that. You should have known that they consider "non-agression pacts" as a sign of weakness. They will always do the following:

~Get pissed if you call them an alliance, because they are not
~If you offer non-agression or peace talks, because it shows how weak you are
~Compare yourselfs to them, The Steel Pact doesn't hold a candle to the Cong in terms of strength
~A bunch of other stuff I am to lazy to list.

It was a really bad move calling The Steel Pact and The Cong "two powerful alliances".

The best way to stay safe from the Cong is to leave them alone.
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