Steel Pact Thread (3.0)

[Stoklomolvi]

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23 DECEMBER 2010

 
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Subject: Steel Pact

For many months, the Stoklomolvi Liaoist Federation ignored the Steel Pact, thinking that it was a small communist alliance seeking to harm and harm from nobody. Only now do we realise that this Steel Pact was an alliance doing the very opposite: it sought the destruction of all communists and leftists in the world, the same objective many other warmongering fascists attempted to achieve. We cannot stand for this threat against our friends and comrades, nor will we stand for this threat against nature and humanity. Thus, with a rapid vote conducted in the National People's Congress and the Standing People's Committee, the entire government of Stoklomolvi has motioned to declare war on the Steel Pact, and with the approval of the Commissar of Stoklomolvi and the State Council the declaration of war passed and is now in effect. We will not issue ultimatums to the Steel Pact, as we know that it will reject them; the only way to resolve this conflict is through force and clash of arms.

We hereby declare that a state of war exists between Stoklomolvi and the Steel Pact. Until this pact is dissolved or until the Steel Pact sues for peace, we will relentlessly seek to destroy the Steel Pact in its entirety.

[Crontor]

Speaking of military stuff, i have been giving my military an overhall. I used to have 35,000,000 (edit: supposed to be million) total military Personal, not including logistics, but i have reduced the size of my army, and this is my new classification, can you tell me what you all think? (I have only done the army, not the navy or air force)

Crontorian Army:

Crontorian Army Infantry CAI

Crontorian Mechanized Infantry CMI

Crontorian Artillery Corps CAC

Crontorian Armored Support CAS

Crontorian Anti-Air Support CAAP

Organizational Command of the CA:

Crontorian Army Infantry CAI: 10,000,000 Infantry

Crontor has 5 Army Groups each with 2,000,000 soldiers

Each Army has 5 Field Armies with: 400,000 soldiers

Each Field Army has 10 Corps with: 40,000 soldiers

Each Corps has 4 Divisions with: 10,000 soldiers

Each Division has 2 Legions with: 5,000 soldiers

Each Legion has 10 Battalions with: 500 soldiers

Each Battalion has 5 Companies: 100 soldiers

Each Company has 2 Platoons with: 50 soldiers

Each Platoon has 5 Squads with: 10 soldiers

Crontorian Mechanized Infantry CMI: 500,000 Soldiers

2,000- IAV Strykers M1127 Reconnaissance Vehicle
6,000- IAV Strykers M1126 Infantry Carrying Vehicles
1,000- IAV Strykers M1133 Medical Evacuation Vehicle
1,000- IAV Strykers M1131 Fire Support Vehicle

20,000 Crew and Drivers

100,000 Mechanics and Technicians

60,000 Stryker Deployed Troops (SDT) Allocated Into Fire Teams Assigned To Individual Vehicles (6,000- IAV Strykers M1126 Infantry Carrying Vehicles)

100,000 Combat Marksmen Allocated Into:

(10 Marksmen Divisions of 10,000)

(100 Marksmen Companies of 100)

(10 Marksmen Squads of 10)

200,000 Reconnaissance and Retrieval Soldiers RRS

40 Legions of 500 Equipped With:

50- IAV Strykers M1127 Reconnaissance Vehicles

Each Legion Has 5 Companies of 100 Soldiers And:

10- IAV Strykers M1127 Reconnaissance Vehicles

Each Company Has 5 Squads With 10 Soldiers

40,000 Logistical Personal

10,000 Geographical Analyst and Advisory Troops GAAD

30,000 Medical Evacuation and Treatment Staff METS

Crontorian Artillery Corps CAC: 500,000 Soldiers

3,000- M109A6 Howitzers

3,000- M270 Multiple Launch Rocket Systems

3,000- M198 Howitzers

3,000- Mobile SAM Trucks

6,000- M777 Howitzers

Artillery is Organized by Grouping:

5 Artillery Regiments with:

1 ADC Division

600- M109A6 Howitzers

600- M270 Multiple Launch Rocket Systems

600- M198 Howitzers

600- Mobile SAM Trucks

1,200- M777 Howitzers

100,000 Crew Members and Operators

10,000 Transport Coordination Officers

25,000 Technicians

50,000 Geographical Defensive Planners

100,000 Artillery Defense Corps ADC

10 Divisions of 10,000

(Standard Organization There forward)

30,000 Artillery Reconnaissance Organized into Fire Teams

100,000 Logistical Personal

85,000 Munitions Transport and Allocation Unit

Crontorian Armored Support: 2,000,000 Soldiers
Armor:

12,000- M1A2 Abrams Main Battle Tanks
6,000- Leopard 2A7 Main Battle Tanks
6,000- M2A3 Bradley’s
250,000- HMMWV (Humvees) modified to fit many different roles
1,000- IAV Strykers M1129 Mortar Carrier Vehicle
1,000- IAV Strykers M1131 Fire Support Vehicle
1,000- IAV Strykers M1134 Anti-Tank Guided Missile Vehicle
12,000- IAV Strykers M112 Mobile Gun System

Armored units are organized into 10 Armored Legions two per army with:
1,200- M1A2 Abrams Main Battle Tanks
600- Leopard 2A7 Main Battle Tanks
600- M2A3 Bradley’s
25,000- HMMWV (Humvees) modified to fit many different roles
100- IAV Strykers M1129 Mortar Carrier Vehicle
100- IAV Strykers M1131 Fire Support Vehicle
100- IAV Strykers M1134 Anti-Tank Guided Missile Vehicle
1,200- IAV Strykers M112 Mobile Gun System

Each Legion has 5 Armored Battalions with:
240- M1A2 Abrams Main Battle Tanks
60- Leopard 2A7 Main Battle Tanks
120- M2A3 Bradley’s
5,000- HMMWV (Humvees) modified to fit many different roles
20- IAV Strykers M1129 Mortar Carrier Vehicle
20- IAV Strykers M1131 Fire Support Vehicle
20- IAV Strykers M1134 Anti-Tank Guided Missile Vehicle
240- IAV Strykers M112 Mobile Gun System

Each Armored Battalion has 5 Armored Companies with:
48- M1A2 Abrams Main Battle Tanks
12- Leopard 2A7 Main Battle Tanks
24- M2A3 Bradley’s
1,000- HMMWV (Humvees) modified to fit many different roles
4- IAV Strykers M1129 Mortar Carrier Vehicle
4- IAV Strykers M1131 Fire Support Vehicle
4- IAV Strykers M1134 Anti-Tank Guided Missile Vehicle
48- IAV Strykers M112 Mobile Gun System

Each Armored Company has 2 Armored Platoons with:
24- M1A2 Abrams Main Battle Tanks
6- Leopard 2A7 Main Battle Tanks
12- M2A3 Bradley’s
500- HMMWV (Humvees) modified to fit many different roles
2- IAV Strykers M1129 Mortar Carrier Vehicle
2- IAV Strykers M1131 Fire Support Vehicle
2- IAV Strykers M1134 Anti-Tank Guided Missile Vehicle
24- IAV Strykers M112 Mobile Gun System

Total Crew Required For All Vehicles: 1,010,000

Technicians and Engineers: 350,000

Crontorian Federal Rocket Troops CFRT: 500,000

100 Legions of 5,000

(Organized accordingly after using standard classification)

Crontorian Demolition Corps: 100,000

Artillery and Air Coordination Corps AACC: 20,000

Crontorian Anti-Tank Defense Command CATDC: 20,000

Crontorian Anti-Air Support CAAP: 1,000,000

Crontorian Air Defense Grid CADG: 200,000

(Allocated at different airfields across the nation where they serve as a first response warning system)

Crontorian Mechanized Anti-Air Forces CMAAF: 30,000

5,000 M-6 Linebackers
5,000 Gepard 1A2s

Allocated Into:

1,000 Armored AA Platoons Of:

5 M-6 Linebackers
5 Gepard 1A2s

Crontorian Anti-Air Infantry CAAI:
200,000 Troops Armed With Stinger Missiles

200,000 Troops Armed With MP7s

Standard Legion As Follows:

2,500 Crontorian Stinger Infantry

2,500 Crontorian Anti-Air Protection

(Standard Organization Then Applies)

[Bokaya]

Very cool army, Crontor!
Anyhows, can I please strike against these communist jokers who've just declared war on us?

[Crontor]

Very cool army, Crontor!
Anyhows, can I please strike against these communist jokers who've just declared war on us?

Thanks, i konw that it is a lot of info to go through, but i was thinking to myself, i have all these troops that never get deployed, i don't need them. Plus, i didn't have an efficient way to organize my AA, Armor, and artillery alongside troops. My plan was to organize everything so that every legion of infantry that goes in, is supported by a legion from each of the other divisions so it would work like this:

First Legion is deployed with 5,000 infantry

Supported by:

First Mechanized Infantry
First Armored Platoon
First AA Legion
First Artillery Corps

About the commies, go ahead...but i would talk to NL

[The Black Plains]

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23 DECEMBER 2010

 
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To: [OPEN COMMUNIQUÉ]
Subject: Steel Pact

For many months, the Stoklomolvi Liaoist Federation ignored the Steel Pact, thinking that it was a small communist alliance seeking to harm and harm from nobody. Only now do we realise that this Steel Pact was an alliance doing the very opposite: it sought the destruction of all communists and leftists in the world, the same objective many other warmongering fascists attempted to achieve. We cannot stand for this threat against our friends and comrades, nor will we stand for this threat against nature and humanity. Thus, with a rapid vote conducted in the National People's Congress and the Standing People's Committee, the entire government of Stoklomolvi has motioned to declare war on the Steel Pact, and with the approval of the Commissar of Stoklomolvi and the State Council the declaration of war passed and is now in effect. We will not issue ultimatums to the Steel Pact, as we know that it will reject them; the only way to resolve this conflict is through force and clash of arms.

We hereby declare that a state of war exists between Stoklomolvi and the Steel Pact. Until this pact is dissolved or until the Steel Pact sues for peace, we will relentlessly seek to destroy the Steel Pact in its entirety.

OOC: this time just don't launch "A million nukes" and claim that it's "Realistic cuz I'm much bigger than the United States or Russia." . Oh and uh tag.

[Unicario]

*walks around, carrying the Soviet flag*
Oh, sorry.

[Crontor]

*walks around, carrying the Soviet flag*
Oh, sorry.

*Shakes head*

Oh Unicario, your the best

[Greater Tezdrian]

OOC: I will advise that IGNORE missiles are launched at Stok. That is a road that we really don't need to go down. Plus, as far as I'm concerned his nation is a radioactive shit heap and nothing more.

[Crontor]

OOC: I will advise that IGNORE missiles are launched at Stok. That is a road that we really don't need to go down. Plus, as far as I'm concerned his nation is a radioactive shit heap and nothing more.

It would seem that way

[New Lusitaniagrad]

OOC: I will advise that IGNORE missiles are launched at Stok. That is a road that we really don't need to go down. Plus, as far as I'm concerned his nation is a radioactive shit heap and nothing more.

OOC:
Was his nation recently attacked via nuclaer warheads and so unable to conduct war?

[Stoklomolvi]

[GT is just butthurt because I IC-ignored GWO with a good glassing.]

[Teccor]

[GT is just butthurt because I IC-ignored GWO with a good glassing.]

OOC: From a more-or-less neutral party on the issue, Stok's a noob. GWO is too. They both are. RPing with either is a bad idea, especially if you don't want to get nuked in two posts.

So, my advice is to the Steel Pact: Ignore noobs. Don't let them in your ranks, don't fight them, don't associate with them. Just ignore them and they'll eventually disappear.

[Stoklomolvi]

[You're not neutral at all. And besides, the incident with GWO was the only time I've ever done anything worthy of being noted as "godmodding." I don't otherwise godmod.]

[The Grand World Order]

[GT is just butthurt because I IC-ignored GWO with a good glassing.]

OOC: From a more-or-less neutral party on the issue, Stok's a noob. GWO is too. They both are. RPing with either is a bad idea, especially if you don't want to get nuked in two posts.

So, my advice is to the Steel Pact: Ignore noobs. Don't let them in your ranks, don't fight them, don't associate with them. Just ignore them and they'll eventually disappear.

((OOC: For the last time, I don't spam nukes... that was a one-time thing simply because I figured perhaps he'd be realistic about anything. And, I've TGed you dismissing each of your points claiming I'm a noob, so perhaps you can cease berating me for something you haven't held up once it was pressed?

However, of course, I do echo your claim that the Steel Pact, and II in general, should indeed flat out deny the existence of Stok. He has contributed literally nothing but detriment and OOC hostilities to the RP community at large, and the only decent RPs I've seen come from him are strictly within his little circle of (RL, from what they've told me) buddies and region-mates (though they are one and the same), who for the most part, have stopped RPing in II. That they refuse to even consider listening to logical points regarding why Stok has been nothing but a malefactor to II should prove enough that they are not at all a source for intelligent discussion over this matter.

It should be noted that if the Steel Pact does recognize Stoklomolvi as existing, I will have to remove myself from association with Steel Pact, per moderator recommendations.

However, this debate stops here. We are NOT going into this again.))

[Old Erisia]

Honestly, anyone who claims GWO is a n00b deserves to be ignored imo.

[Bokaya]

Fair enough. Set co-ordinates for the ignore missiles, Brothers!

Oh, and Quensi's restoring the Quendisphere. This is good? LINK

[Calmerica]

Government:
Full Name of Nation: Holy Diarchy of Calmerica
Short Name: HD/ Calmerica
WA Type of Government: Compulsory Consumerist State
WA Civil Rights Rating: Some
WA Political Rights Rating: Few
Type of Government: Federal Diarchy
Please Explain How Your Government Works: Two Kings rule the nation, a Panel containing eight Secretaries rule underneath them, and a Lord is assigned to each Province in order to govern it.
Head of State: Caleb Hawkins/ Ivan Moldavi
Head of Government: Caleb Hawkins/ Ivan Moldavi
Representative to the Pact: Selena Gretchen, Special Advisor to the Secretary of Foreign Affairs
Political Leaning: Authoritarian
Government Budget: Ç7,704,902,250,000.00
Administration Budget: 13% of GDP= Ç1,930,806,809,100
Population: RP, 553M, appx
Armed Forces:
Name of Armed Forces: Calmerica Military
Head of Armed Forces: Secretary of War, Chip Guldfalk
Size of Armed Forces: 37,050,000
Organization of Armed Forces: Calmerica Ground Army, Air Army, Naval Army, Special Forces, Border Patrol, Coastal Patrol, Militia
Defence Budget: 26% of GDP= Ç3,861,613,618,200
Number of WMDs: Classified
Economy:
Tax Rate: 46%
Government Waste: Ç616,392,180,000.00
Currency Used: Ç, Cal(s)
Exchange Rate: Ç1 = $1.1993
Make Up of Economies:
Major Industries: Arms manufacturing, gambling, information technology, farming, oil drilling, uranium mining, consumer goods, retail
Major Agriculture: Wheat, fruit, vegetables, meats, dairy, lots of fish
Major Exports: Weapons, computer/ information technology, uranium
Major Imports: Canned goods, automobiles, retail brands
National GDP: Ç14,852,360,070,000.00
GDP per Capita: Ç23,243.13
Questionnaire:
Is the government involved at all in your economy? It is a mixed economy, so yes.
What is the general opinion of socialism and communism in your nation? Socialism is acceptable. Communism is heavily frowned upon.
Does your government practice ANY socialist principles? (Universal Healthcare, etc) Yes
Will you fight to protect your fellow members of the Steel Pact if called upon? Hell yes.
Is your nation unstable or at risk of some sort of revolution? No, however the recent drug banning has caused somewhat of a disturbance...no revolution is approaching though.
Do you promise to be faithful to this alliance, responding to the call of the leader, no matter the circumstances? Yes.
Do you promise to participate in Pact Forums and events, realizing that extended unaccounted for absence may result in the termination of membership? Yes.
Do you promise to uphold the treaties and constitution of this alliance? Yes.
Do you promise to recognize the alliance, as a defensive one, not seeking large-scale conflict, and promise to, abiding by that, not become a warmonger? Yes.
Information About Your Nation You Want Us to Know, Or A Factbook: http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=85086

I, Selena Gretchen, promise to uphold all of the promises I have made in filling out this application, and to respect our Constitution, Founder, and other Council Members. By filling out this application, I am intent on joining the Steel Pact in order to end the cesspool of communism that is present in the world. I will participate in Pact events, and notify the Founder if I am to be on an extended leave of absence.

I promise I will do whatever It takes to further the goals of the Pact worldwide.

Signature:

Selena Gretchen

[Bokaya]

Accepted as a provisional member, as socialism is tolerated in your nation.

[New Lusitaniagrad]

Very well, Stock will be IGNORED for the fact that he is a n00b and a warmonger. He is hereby blacklisted and to be ignored by all member of the Steel Pact.

[Crontor]

Very well, Stock will be IGNORED for the fact that he is a n00b and a warmonger. He is hereby blacklisted and to be ignored by all member of the Steel Pact.

Glad that we have that out of the way, this is more for Bokaya and NL, but i think we should have some sort of quick response task forceto deal with ccommunist uprisings or to help member nations. My military operates something similar, we call ours the Crontorian Rapid Deployment Team, which is an army designed to be ready for combat at a hours notice, sort of like the American Revolutionary Minuteman.

Thoughts?

[St George of England]

Sounds good. I'd like to propose something to accompany that. Mobile Offshore Bases, made up of 3-7 aircraft carriers (supercarriers) attached together, in international waters, at strategic points in the world, fully staffed by Steel Pact personnel, complete with protection from other naval ships.

[Crontor]

Sounds good. I'd like to propose something to accompany that. Mobile Offshore Bases, made up of 3-7 aircraft carriers (supercarriers) attached together, in international waters, at strategic points in the world, fully staffed by Steel Pact personnel, complete with protection from other naval ships.

That is good, that way, the rapid reaction troops can be everywhere and anywhere with air cover!

[St George of England]

Sounds good. I'd like to propose something to accompany that. Mobile Offshore Bases, made up of 3-7 aircraft carriers (supercarriers) attached together, in international waters, at strategic points in the world, fully staffed by Steel Pact personnel, complete with protection from other naval ships.

That is good, that way, the rapid reaction troops can be everywhere and anywhere with air cover!

Exactly.

[New Bern99]

Sounds good. I'd like to propose something to accompany that. Mobile Offshore Bases, made up of 3-7 aircraft carriers (supercarriers) attached together, in international waters, at strategic points in the world, fully staffed by Steel Pact personnel, complete with protection from other naval ships.

Bad idea...an Aircraft Carriers greatest asset is that its mobile. A runway for aircraft that can be anywhere in the world. Tie half a dozen of them together and their just floating targets.

[St George of England]

Sounds good. I'd like to propose something to accompany that. Mobile Offshore Bases, made up of 3-7 aircraft carriers (supercarriers) attached together, in international waters, at strategic points in the world, fully staffed by Steel Pact personnel, complete with protection from other naval ships.

Bad idea...an Aircraft Carriers greatest asset is that its mobile. A runway for aircraft that can be anywhere in the world. Tie half a dozen of them together and their just floating targets.

Not if adequately protected. I'll point out that the only reason the US didn't take up the MOB system is the expense, which, spread across members, wouldn't be much.