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Legeonas
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Postby Legeonas » Sun Dec 19, 2010 3:06 pm

Of the Quendi wrote:
Velgrae3 wrote:Free stuff here. Take your pick.

http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=84906

Please tell me you are joking?


He got banned.
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Legeonian Greece

The Holy Roman Empire is the total sum of the above colonies and protectorates.
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Siberian_Peoples
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Postby Siberian_Peoples » Sun Dec 19, 2010 3:06 pm

My soldiers are simply called Operators, the army is simple called the Siberian Army, apart from the militia/colony forces. They're called Siberian Colonist Militia Forces.
"Benevolent is the Monarchy, Loyal are the People"
The Factbook of the Dual Diarchy of Russo-Siberia
Colony: Siberian_Greenland
Member of: The Colonial Powers Association and the Sovereign Empires Coalition
My First Store-Front: The Trans-Orbis Trade Co.
Marquesan wrote:Oh, and please keep your willies in your pants. This sort of dick-waving contest is hazardous. A terrorist is liable to shoot it off.

Marquesan wrote:
Siberian_Peoples wrote:Kalasparata Is too liberal. it's basically anarchy. It's a land filled with homeless people and corpses.


Kalasparata seems to be full of shit to me. I mean...why else would they need so many toilets?


Latnya wrote:Whoa whoa whoa, why the hell is their a dildo here?

*Takes and burns item*

No Sexual shit like this, I don't want this place locked for bull crap. :lol:

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St George of England
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Postby St George of England » Sun Dec 19, 2010 3:07 pm

Siberian_Peoples wrote:My soldiers are simply called Operators, the army is simple called the Siberian Army, apart from the militia/colony forces. They're called Siberian Colonist Militia Forces.

Bah! Where's the Pomp! Where's the Arrogance!
The Angline-Guanxine Empire
Current Monarch: His Heavenly Guanxine The Ky Morris
Population: As NS Page
Current RP: Closure of the Paulianus Passage
The United Coven of the Otherworlds
Current Leader: Covenwoman Paige Thomas
Population: 312,000,000
Military Size: 4,000,000
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Of the Quendi
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Postby Of the Quendi » Sun Dec 19, 2010 3:08 pm

Legeonas wrote:
Of the Quendi wrote:Please tell me you are joking?


He got banned.

So he wants to get back by disturbing the global economy? Selling stuff cheap to friends is one thing giving stuff away is just plain annoying. And considering that some of these things where actually quite nice I suggest you sell them instead of giving them away Velgrae.
Nation RP name
Arda i Eruhíni (short form)
Alcarinqua ar Meneldëa Arda i Eruhíni i sé Amanaranyë ar Aramanaranyë (long form)

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Velgrae3
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Postby Velgrae3 » Sun Dec 19, 2010 3:08 pm

Of the Quendi wrote:
Velgrae3 wrote:Free stuff here. Take your pick.

http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=84906

Please tell me you are joking?


Nope.
I'm Velgrae. I got banned for spamming, which I thoroughly regret.

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Legeonas
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Postby Legeonas » Sun Dec 19, 2010 3:08 pm

St George of England wrote:
Siberian_Peoples wrote:My soldiers are simply called Operators, the army is simple called the Siberian Army, apart from the militia/colony forces. They're called Siberian Colonist Militia Forces.

Bah! Where's the Pomp! Where's the Arrogance!


Where's the use? :P
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Colonies - Legeonian Verona
Legeonian Greece

The Holy Roman Empire is the total sum of the above colonies and protectorates.
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Siberian_Peoples
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Postby Siberian_Peoples » Sun Dec 19, 2010 3:09 pm

St George of England wrote:
Siberian_Peoples wrote:My soldiers are simply called Operators, the army is simple called the Siberian Army, apart from the militia/colony forces. They're called Siberian Colonist Militia Forces.

Bah! Where's the Pomp! Where's the Arrogance!


Over inflation of ability and flaunting skill is just, as you said yourself, arrogant and we're a very modest nation.
"Benevolent is the Monarchy, Loyal are the People"
The Factbook of the Dual Diarchy of Russo-Siberia
Colony: Siberian_Greenland
Member of: The Colonial Powers Association and the Sovereign Empires Coalition
My First Store-Front: The Trans-Orbis Trade Co.
Marquesan wrote:Oh, and please keep your willies in your pants. This sort of dick-waving contest is hazardous. A terrorist is liable to shoot it off.

Marquesan wrote:
Siberian_Peoples wrote:Kalasparata Is too liberal. it's basically anarchy. It's a land filled with homeless people and corpses.


Kalasparata seems to be full of shit to me. I mean...why else would they need so many toilets?


Latnya wrote:Whoa whoa whoa, why the hell is their a dildo here?

*Takes and burns item*

No Sexual shit like this, I don't want this place locked for bull crap. :lol:

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Velgrae3
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Postby Velgrae3 » Sun Dec 19, 2010 3:10 pm

Of the Quendi wrote:
Legeonas wrote:
He got banned.

So he wants to get back by disturbing the global economy? Selling stuff cheap to friends is one thing giving stuff away is just plain annoying. And considering that some of these things where actually quite nice I suggest you sell them instead of giving them away Velgrae.



I do not see the reason for even keeping money on a frozen account.
I'm Velgrae. I got banned for spamming, which I thoroughly regret.

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Of the Quendi
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Postby Of the Quendi » Sun Dec 19, 2010 3:10 pm

Velgrae3 wrote:
Of the Quendi wrote:Please tell me you are joking?


Nope.

Well if you mean that about giving back to the community I suggest you stop giving free stuff away. It is both godmodding an pretty annoying for serious storefront operators. Considering the quality of especially your aviation products (I might even buy some) I suggest you stop. Now.

EDIT: Lets take the discussion to your thread in GE&T
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Arda i Eruhíni (short form)
Alcarinqua ar Meneldëa Arda i Eruhíni i sé Amanaranyë ar Aramanaranyë (long form)

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Postby Velgrae3 » Sun Dec 19, 2010 3:12 pm

Of the Quendi wrote:
Velgrae3 wrote:
Nope.

Well if you mean that about giving back to the community I suggest you stop giving free stuff away. It is both godmodding an pretty annoying for serious storefront operators. Considering the quality of especially your aviation products (I might even buy some) I suggest you stop. Now.

EDIT: Lets take the discussion to your thread in GE&T


Fine. For your sake I'll stop.
I'm Velgrae. I got banned for spamming, which I thoroughly regret.

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St George of England
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Postby St George of England » Sun Dec 19, 2010 3:13 pm

Siberian_Peoples wrote:
St George of England wrote:Bah! Where's the Pomp! Where's the Arrogance!


Over inflation of ability and flaunting skill is just, as you said yourself, arrogant and we're a very modest nation.

Bah! Leave the "democracies" to modesty! What's the point of being an Empire if you can't flaunt it?
The Angline-Guanxine Empire
Current Monarch: His Heavenly Guanxine The Ky Morris
Population: As NS Page
Current RP: Closure of the Paulianus Passage
The United Coven of the Otherworlds
Current Leader: Covenwoman Paige Thomas
Population: 312,000,000
Military Size: 4,000,000
New to NS? TG me if you have questions.

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Legeonas
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Postby Legeonas » Sun Dec 19, 2010 3:14 pm

St George of England wrote:
Siberian_Peoples wrote:
Over inflation of ability and flaunting skill is just, as you said yourself, arrogant and we're a very modest nation.

Bah! Leave the "democracies" to modesty! What's the point of being an Empire if you can't flaunt it?


Hell yeah! Hey... there's an idea. A heavy metal society. Would be interesting enough to do.
Legeonas Factbook

Colonies - Legeonian Verona
Legeonian Greece

The Holy Roman Empire is the total sum of the above colonies and protectorates.
Leader of The Brotherhood

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Siberian_Peoples
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Postby Siberian_Peoples » Sun Dec 19, 2010 3:14 pm

St George of England wrote:
Siberian_Peoples wrote:
Over inflation of ability and flaunting skill is just, as you said yourself, arrogant and we're a very modest nation.

Bah! Leave the "democracies" to modesty! What's the point of being an Empire if you can't flaunt it?


Well over complication is, well complicated. I'll probably forget their names for ages - I couldn't even remember the name of my nation leader until at least a few days after making my account.
"Benevolent is the Monarchy, Loyal are the People"
The Factbook of the Dual Diarchy of Russo-Siberia
Colony: Siberian_Greenland
Member of: The Colonial Powers Association and the Sovereign Empires Coalition
My First Store-Front: The Trans-Orbis Trade Co.
Marquesan wrote:Oh, and please keep your willies in your pants. This sort of dick-waving contest is hazardous. A terrorist is liable to shoot it off.

Marquesan wrote:
Siberian_Peoples wrote:Kalasparata Is too liberal. it's basically anarchy. It's a land filled with homeless people and corpses.


Kalasparata seems to be full of shit to me. I mean...why else would they need so many toilets?


Latnya wrote:Whoa whoa whoa, why the hell is their a dildo here?

*Takes and burns item*

No Sexual shit like this, I don't want this place locked for bull crap. :lol:

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Of the Quendi
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Postby Of the Quendi » Sun Dec 19, 2010 3:17 pm

Velgrae3 wrote:
Of the Quendi wrote:Well if you mean that about giving back to the community I suggest you stop giving free stuff away. It is both godmodding an pretty annoying for serious storefront operators. Considering the quality of especially your aviation products (I might even buy some) I suggest you stop. Now.

EDIT: Lets take the discussion to your thread in GE&T


Fine. For your sake I'll stop.

Don't do it for my sake. I couldn't care less. I am just trying to look out for your reputation.
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Arda i Eruhíni (short form)
Alcarinqua ar Meneldëa Arda i Eruhíni i sé Amanaranyë ar Aramanaranyë (long form)

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Postby Siberian_Peoples » Sun Dec 19, 2010 3:19 pm

Of the Quendi wrote:
Velgrae3 wrote:
Fine. For your sake I'll stop.

Don't do it for my sake. I couldn't care less. I am just trying to look out for your reputation.


I don't get how it effects people? I'm a bit of a newb, so all this global economics shit is confusing - just because he's giving things away doesn't mean he'll fuck the economy up, surely?
"Benevolent is the Monarchy, Loyal are the People"
The Factbook of the Dual Diarchy of Russo-Siberia
Colony: Siberian_Greenland
Member of: The Colonial Powers Association and the Sovereign Empires Coalition
My First Store-Front: The Trans-Orbis Trade Co.
Marquesan wrote:Oh, and please keep your willies in your pants. This sort of dick-waving contest is hazardous. A terrorist is liable to shoot it off.

Marquesan wrote:
Siberian_Peoples wrote:Kalasparata Is too liberal. it's basically anarchy. It's a land filled with homeless people and corpses.


Kalasparata seems to be full of shit to me. I mean...why else would they need so many toilets?


Latnya wrote:Whoa whoa whoa, why the hell is their a dildo here?

*Takes and burns item*

No Sexual shit like this, I don't want this place locked for bull crap. :lol:

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Legeonas
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Postby Legeonas » Sun Dec 19, 2010 3:21 pm

Siberian_Peoples wrote:
Of the Quendi wrote:Don't do it for my sake. I couldn't care less. I am just trying to look out for your reputation.


I don't get how it effects people? I'm a bit of a newb, so all this global economics shit is confusing - just because he's giving things away doesn't mean he'll fuck the economy up, surely?


If you're giving stuff away, that means everybody will go for your stuff, and nobody will buy from the people trying to use the Global trade and Economics to make money.
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Colonies - Legeonian Verona
Legeonian Greece

The Holy Roman Empire is the total sum of the above colonies and protectorates.
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Postby Velgrae3 » Sun Dec 19, 2010 3:21 pm

Of the Quendi wrote:
Velgrae3 wrote:
Fine. For your sake I'll stop.

Don't do it for my sake. I couldn't care less. I am just trying to look out for your reputation.


My reputation? I'M BANNED, there's no reputation.
I'm Velgrae. I got banned for spamming, which I thoroughly regret.

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Of the Quendi
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Postby Of the Quendi » Sun Dec 19, 2010 3:25 pm

Siberian_Peoples wrote:
Of the Quendi wrote:Don't do it for my sake. I couldn't care less. I am just trying to look out for your reputation.


I don't get how it effects people? I'm a bit of a newb, so all this global economics shit is confusing - just because he's giving things away doesn't mean he'll fuck the economy up, surely?

Because the people who operate arms manufacturing storefronts is probarbly not going to like it when someone give weapons away for free.

Another issue is that so called "free stuff" tend to attract small newbie nations. I remember running around GE&T to get people to stop selling thousands of nukes to Hayaba.

Thirdly, and most importantly, giving away free stuff is godmoding. You can't have zero production costs when you make something therefore any storefront giving away stuff for free will run with a net loss. If we say that I decided to buy a trillion of Velgrae's planes then his nation would experience a budget loss far exceding the total GDP of his nation. Therefore an indirect godmod.

For the fourth having your defunct nation do stuff for you is also godmoding. You can't puppet wank thats cheating. I have had way over ten puppets if I revived them all and made them all give my nation free stuff. Well you can see how that would be a problem.
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Alcarinqua ar Meneldëa Arda i Eruhíni i sé Amanaranyë ar Aramanaranyë (long form)

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Postby Marquesan » Sun Dec 19, 2010 3:26 pm

St George of England wrote:
Siberian_Peoples wrote:
Over inflation of ability and flaunting skill is just, as you said yourself, arrogant and we're a very modest nation.

Bah! Leave the "democracies" to modesty! What's the point of being an Empire if you can't flaunt it?


Mmm... I suppose I can see the point. Especially in much older nations that have hundreds of years of history. Some pomp is in order for that. If you have a brand new nation, there's no pomp to be had, no history to be celebrated. The simpler the better. My soldiers are referred to as Operators in a tactical sense, Gendarmes in a formal sense. It really ties nicely into the long history of Marquesan as French Polynesia, so the french influence will be pretty heavy in places. Then again, we did fight a military coup against french rule and won, so we're not their biggest fans. Just that it's part of the culture.
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Of the Quendi
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Postby Of the Quendi » Sun Dec 19, 2010 3:26 pm

Velgrae3 wrote:
Of the Quendi wrote:Don't do it for my sake. I couldn't care less. I am just trying to look out for your reputation.


My reputation? I'M BANNED, there's no reputation.

Well then maybe you should try to behave well while the mods are looking instead of giving them more reason to disapprove?
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Alcarinqua ar Meneldëa Arda i Eruhíni i sé Amanaranyë ar Aramanaranyë (long form)

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Postby Siberian_Peoples » Sun Dec 19, 2010 3:28 pm

Of the Quendi wrote:
Siberian_Peoples wrote:
I don't get how it effects people? I'm a bit of a newb, so all this global economics shit is confusing - just because he's giving things away doesn't mean he'll fuck the economy up, surely?

Because the people who operate arms manufacturing storefronts is probarbly not going to like it when someone give weapons away for free.

Another issue is that so called "free stuff" tend to attract small newbie nations. I remember running around GE&T to get people to stop selling thousands of nukes to Hayaba.

Thirdly, and most importantly, giving away free stuff is godmoding. You can't have zero production costs when you make something therefore any storefront giving away stuff for free will run with a net loss. If we say that I decided to buy a trillion of Velgrae's planes then his nation would experience a budget loss far exceding the total GDP of his nation. Therefore an indirect godmod.

For the fourth having your defunct nation do stuff for you is also godmoding. You can't puppet wank thats cheating. I have had way over ten puppets if I revived them all and made them all give my nation free stuff. Well you can see how that would be a problem.


Yeah, I've heard of this Hayaba guy, but nobody has told me what he did. What did he do?
"Benevolent is the Monarchy, Loyal are the People"
The Factbook of the Dual Diarchy of Russo-Siberia
Colony: Siberian_Greenland
Member of: The Colonial Powers Association and the Sovereign Empires Coalition
My First Store-Front: The Trans-Orbis Trade Co.
Marquesan wrote:Oh, and please keep your willies in your pants. This sort of dick-waving contest is hazardous. A terrorist is liable to shoot it off.

Marquesan wrote:
Siberian_Peoples wrote:Kalasparata Is too liberal. it's basically anarchy. It's a land filled with homeless people and corpses.


Kalasparata seems to be full of shit to me. I mean...why else would they need so many toilets?


Latnya wrote:Whoa whoa whoa, why the hell is their a dildo here?

*Takes and burns item*

No Sexual shit like this, I don't want this place locked for bull crap. :lol:

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Postby St George of England » Sun Dec 19, 2010 3:29 pm

Marquesan wrote:
St George of England wrote:Bah! Leave the "democracies" to modesty! What's the point of being an Empire if you can't flaunt it?


Mmm... I suppose I can see the point. Especially in much older nations that have hundreds of years of history. Some pomp is in order for that. If you have a brand new nation, there's no pomp to be had, no history to be celebrated. The simpler the better. My soldiers are referred to as Operators in a tactical sense, Gendarmes in a formal sense. It really ties nicely into the long history of Marquesan as French Polynesia, so the french influence will be pretty heavy in places. Then again, we did fight a military coup against french rule and won, so we're not their biggest fans. Just that it's part of the culture.

Quite. We're ok. Because we took Paris after Poitiers, the French never dissolved the Templars, and we took our new found success to Spain, spanked the Moors, and then took (via Marriage) Sicily and Venice, and then onto the Holy Land. Mongol invasion is fought off, just, and the Mamluks never rebel in Egypt cos we've already taken it.

Hence the arrogance.
The Angline-Guanxine Empire
Current Monarch: His Heavenly Guanxine The Ky Morris
Population: As NS Page
Current RP: Closure of the Paulianus Passage
The United Coven of the Otherworlds
Current Leader: Covenwoman Paige Thomas
Population: 312,000,000
Military Size: 4,000,000
New to NS? TG me if you have questions.

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Legeonas
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Postby Legeonas » Sun Dec 19, 2010 3:29 pm

I believe he nuked everything to shit.
Legeonas Factbook

Colonies - Legeonian Verona
Legeonian Greece

The Holy Roman Empire is the total sum of the above colonies and protectorates.
Leader of The Brotherhood

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Siberian_Peoples
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Postby Siberian_Peoples » Sun Dec 19, 2010 3:32 pm

Legeonas wrote:I believe he nuked everything to shit.


In his imagination - you can't just say 'You're nuked.' If he did that to me I'd refuse to acknowledge it happened and be like 'Fuck off.'
"Benevolent is the Monarchy, Loyal are the People"
The Factbook of the Dual Diarchy of Russo-Siberia
Colony: Siberian_Greenland
Member of: The Colonial Powers Association and the Sovereign Empires Coalition
My First Store-Front: The Trans-Orbis Trade Co.
Marquesan wrote:Oh, and please keep your willies in your pants. This sort of dick-waving contest is hazardous. A terrorist is liable to shoot it off.

Marquesan wrote:
Siberian_Peoples wrote:Kalasparata Is too liberal. it's basically anarchy. It's a land filled with homeless people and corpses.


Kalasparata seems to be full of shit to me. I mean...why else would they need so many toilets?


Latnya wrote:Whoa whoa whoa, why the hell is their a dildo here?

*Takes and burns item*

No Sexual shit like this, I don't want this place locked for bull crap. :lol:

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Siberian_Peoples
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Postby Siberian_Peoples » Sun Dec 19, 2010 3:56 pm

So on a completely different note, what does your leader look like? Mine's modelled off of Tsar Nicholas II.

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"Benevolent is the Monarchy, Loyal are the People"
The Factbook of the Dual Diarchy of Russo-Siberia
Colony: Siberian_Greenland
Member of: The Colonial Powers Association and the Sovereign Empires Coalition
My First Store-Front: The Trans-Orbis Trade Co.
Marquesan wrote:Oh, and please keep your willies in your pants. This sort of dick-waving contest is hazardous. A terrorist is liable to shoot it off.

Marquesan wrote:
Siberian_Peoples wrote:Kalasparata Is too liberal. it's basically anarchy. It's a land filled with homeless people and corpses.


Kalasparata seems to be full of shit to me. I mean...why else would they need so many toilets?


Latnya wrote:Whoa whoa whoa, why the hell is their a dildo here?

*Takes and burns item*

No Sexual shit like this, I don't want this place locked for bull crap. :lol:

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