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DECLARATION OF WAR ON MISSOURIAN REBELS (TG ENTRY, MT)

A staging-point for declarations of war and other major diplomatic events. [In character]

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Missourian Rebels
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Postby Missourian Rebels » Wed Nov 17, 2010 8:07 pm

you say so, but what government would be so corrupt as to block access to the river that keeps a country going? how would the international community respond to this? an unlawful Tax on river barges? Let us secure the waterway on OUR River, the river that takes up 300-600 miles of our shores and banks? also, we wish that we be able to take memphis, and some parts of mississippi, just small islands along the river, to protect our people from river-bound threats.

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Holy Roman Confederate
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Postby Holy Roman Confederate » Wed Nov 17, 2010 8:12 pm

You seem to forget that this war was fought because of your failure to consider the thoughts of the international community towards your way of doing things. You were defeated and territory has been claimed as is the right of the victor. The river is still yours within the state of Missouri, but ceases to be under your sphere of influence in Louisiana. Corruption has nothing to do with taxation for all traffic on the waterway. Memphis is no longer yours either. If you find these measures not to your liking perhaps you should have considered that before forcing a war which you ended up not winning. You seek mercy where their is none. Feel glad your nation is being allowed to rebuild any type of military power as we could easily impose the restriction of no military forces forevermore.
http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=78531
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Postby Teccor » Wed Nov 17, 2010 8:37 pm

Holy Roman Confederate wrote:You seem to forget that this war was fought because of your failure to consider the thoughts of the international community towards your way of doing things. You were defeated and territory has been claimed as is the right of the victor. The river is still yours within the state of Missouri, but ceases to be under your sphere of influence in Louisiana. Corruption has nothing to do with taxation for all traffic on the waterway. Memphis is no longer yours either. If you find these measures not to your liking perhaps you should have considered that before forcing a war which you ended up not winning. You seek mercy where their is none. Feel glad your nation is being allowed to rebuild any type of military power as we could easily impose the restriction of no military forces forevermore.

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Postby Holy Roman Confederate » Wed Nov 17, 2010 8:38 pm

Or just ignore you away and remind you of the fact you were asked to leave.
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Missourian Rebels
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Postby Missourian Rebels » Wed Nov 17, 2010 8:40 pm

I just demand free travel on ALL of the river of my cargo ships, they will hold weapons, but unarmed, shipped for Selling purposes

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Postby Holy Roman Confederate » Wed Nov 17, 2010 8:42 pm

Your ships can travel freely on the portion of the river within your country, but not within Louisiana as it is no longer your territory.
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Postby Missourian Rebels » Wed Nov 17, 2010 8:48 pm

Holy Roman Confederate wrote:Your ships can travel freely on the portion of the river within your country, but not within Louisiana as it is no longer your territory.

They Will Travel Freely Down the River into the gulf, as that is the only way they have unless you want me to invade Nebraska and idaho and all the way out to the Pacific

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Holy Roman Confederate
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Postby Holy Roman Confederate » Wed Nov 17, 2010 8:50 pm

The will travel down the river until the river crosses into Louisiana, then they will either pay the toll of they will turn around and go home.
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Missourian Rebels
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Postby Missourian Rebels » Wed Nov 17, 2010 8:53 pm

they will pay no toll, the River does not belong to anyone, it is a waterway, and any attacks on our cargo will be regarded as a threat on the international community

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Postby Holy Roman Confederate » Wed Nov 17, 2010 8:56 pm

The portions of the river that pass through HRC controlled territory require a toll. It's that simple. Do you believe in real life no toll is present for use of the panama canal? If you do not like having to pay a toll for your traffic on the river then you should have considered that when opting to go ahead with the war instead of surrendering your government for trial.
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Postby Missourian Rebels » Wed Nov 17, 2010 8:58 pm

we will send all remaining forces up the missouri and then down the columbia to control those rivers for trade, don't stop us, this is our only way to keep a free trade route after your Illegal War

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Postby Holy Roman Confederate » Wed Nov 17, 2010 8:59 pm

Our war was far from illegal. Invade anywhere and you will return to a state of war with the coalition.
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Postby Missourian Rebels » Wed Nov 17, 2010 9:01 pm

invade what? you call Capturing an important river invading? countering the Illegal Mockery of our main waterway, and now you will stop us from moving into an empty area to control the only rivers we can use? Your corrupt Government is trying to cut off my nation, a nation Voluntarily Surrendered in an ILLEGAL WAR, a war based off of one blockade, when you could've simply forced my Fleet to leave?

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Holy Roman Confederate
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Postby Holy Roman Confederate » Wed Nov 17, 2010 9:04 pm

Any attempt to expand the nation of Missourian Rebels in any way will be deemed offensive in nature and we will respond with force. It's that simple. Had you conducted yourself in a better manner on the world stage this would not be required but your nation utilized nuclear weapons over it's own territory, was a known human rights abuser, and is now paying the price for previous actions.
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Postby Missourian Rebels » Wed Nov 17, 2010 9:06 pm

also, What is to become of MR offshore Drilling rigs off the coast of Louisiana, you're going to destroy our income, of which new Hayeselia already damaged by burning a small area of our forests, forests that are needed to hunt deer from, which also threatened our crops!

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Holy Roman Confederate
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Postby Holy Roman Confederate » Wed Nov 17, 2010 9:08 pm

The rigs are now the property of another nation now as spoils of war. As for forests being burned down that was done in response to your nations deployment of irregular forces into said forests forcing their destruction So blame the cause not the effect.
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Missourian Rebels
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Postby Missourian Rebels » Wed Nov 17, 2010 9:12 pm

The People of East Prairie Demand Reparations, The government agrees that these simple and Honest Farmers be repayed, And New forests be planted by New Hayeselia, it was irresponsible and insensitive to the enviroment and the hardworking farmers and Hunters of southeast missouri

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Holy Roman Confederate
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Postby Holy Roman Confederate » Wed Nov 17, 2010 9:14 pm

The forests were utilized as fighting positions for irregular forces. Because they were utilized as a fighting position no compensation will be paid for the destruction of said forests.
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Postby Vetega » Wed Nov 17, 2010 9:24 pm

I seriously doubt that you could even back up any of these claims with any force. If you continue to threaten HRC the we will do what is necessary. I am in full support of my ally.
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Missourian Rebels
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Postby Missourian Rebels » Wed Nov 17, 2010 9:26 pm

So ye be insensitive to the working class farmers? I thought this was about Freeing the people, not removing their livelihood from the face of the earth without much as a check to help them replant the burnt fields and forests

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Holy Roman Confederate
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Postby Holy Roman Confederate » Wed Nov 17, 2010 9:28 pm

Forests are not farmland. They will regrow. As your nation elected to hide in these forests the burden of repayment rests with your nation.
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Postby United NW Canada » Wed Nov 17, 2010 9:31 pm

as with conquered Germany in 1918 and 1945, japan 1945, iraq 2002 as a few examples that is the price the masses pay for supporting mentally unstable neurotic leaders. they could have rose up at any time and overthrown their governments but they didnt so they paid the full price of their decisions . The same is the fate of those that backed the very same type of leader in the Missourian Rebels.

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Postby Vetega » Wed Nov 17, 2010 9:32 pm

Which is reason enough for you to cease your senseless babbling about fairness and reparations. It over.
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Missourian Rebels
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Postby Missourian Rebels » Wed Nov 17, 2010 9:36 pm

As the de facto Dictator of MR, mr Plight Plixton has to condemn new hayeselia for this action, you argue we violated human rights when you burnt the very forests that gave our countrymen a livelihood. The oil rigs must remain in the corporate hands that owned them in the first place, or shall you Encroach again on the godgiven rights of life, liberty, and property

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Holy Roman Confederate
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Postby Holy Roman Confederate » Wed Nov 17, 2010 9:38 pm

That property has been seized and turned over to another nation. Your request is denied. If you are indeed installing another dictator we will be forced to resume hostilities.
http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=78531
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