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War RP idea/discussion thread - MT war idea(OOC, OPEN)

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War RP idea/discussion thread - MT war idea(OOC, OPEN)

Postby Astholm » Mon Oct 25, 2010 10:20 am

I'm fairly new to war RP's, so would appreciate help here.
What I've thought about doing is, creating a new war RP, but with help from experienced RP'ers.

The difference is, this nation will not be participating in the war - instead it'll be a puppet nation of mine that is meant to be an island nation (roughly about the size of Australia, well, for now, anyway, unless anyone has an original idea!)

The aim would be for it to be semi-realistic, written as either like a news broadcast/journal etc. and a character RP, but since I'm weak in this area, I would appreciate the help.

I've used this as my guidelines/benchmark, but would be interested to see what people's ideas are on this, and who would be interested in this RP.

By the way, it would be a long-term RP, just for additional realism, to represent how long a war takes in real life, but I'll leave the finer details down to what people suggest here.

However, I do have some things that are certain:
Location: Island nation
Period: Modern-day, i.e. 2010
Type of roleplay: Character RP, non-romance RP.

I will be interested to see what people come up with!

(Final note: Any better thread title ideas for this thread?)
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Postby Astholm » Mon Oct 25, 2010 12:56 pm

Is anyone interested? :(
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Postby Power and Stability » Mon Oct 25, 2010 1:27 pm

I would be interested. So, this RP, I would be invading you and you(your puppet) would be defending the island?
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Postby Astholm » Mon Oct 25, 2010 2:03 pm

Well, sort of that way, yes, I can't use this nation since it's not an island as such. It would be a multiplayer RP but we need to work out the best amount of people to play to make for a good RP.
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I have multiple puppets here; only a select few are used to represent the continent of Astholm; others used represent Westholme, and do not artificially boost my nation's statistics.Previously i used puppets with nation names that did not identify as Astholm (e.g. Australis Australia; now all new puppets use ASTHLM, NORTHLM, SOUTHLM, WESTHLM (HLM denoting The Holmes.
NOTE: Other uses of Astholm here have a different continuity and refer to work created by the user Astholm, not the nation

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Postby Power and Stability » Mon Oct 25, 2010 3:10 pm

From my previous experience, too many players can be a bad idea. You'l have to regulate how many players you're gonna accept.
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Postby Astholm » Tue Oct 26, 2010 11:32 am

I'll say 5 players is the limit.
A practice RP could be done first, with experienced RP'ers pointing out mistakes etc. then the proper RP which would be a longer-term thing.

Hopefully this will explain it.
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I have multiple puppets here; only a select few are used to represent the continent of Astholm; others used represent Westholme, and do not artificially boost my nation's statistics.Previously i used puppets with nation names that did not identify as Astholm (e.g. Australis Australia; now all new puppets use ASTHLM, NORTHLM, SOUTHLM, WESTHLM (HLM denoting The Holmes.
NOTE: Other uses of Astholm here have a different continuity and refer to work created by the user Astholm, not the nation

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Postby Malkyer » Tue Oct 26, 2010 12:09 pm

I'd be interested in offering my services, both as an experienced RPer and as a participant in a long-term thread. My exact level of involvement would of course depend on some IC factors (economic and political factors determining which side I join with, etc) but I'd be willing to help out OOC to a larger degree.

My first piece of advice would be to have a more clearly-defined scenario laid out before beginning, so that full attention can be paid to the story once the RP starts, rather than having the players get bogged down in details. Even if we know the outcome before we begin, that's not a problem in RP, since the focus should be on the narrative itself, rather than just who wins and who loses.

So Astholm (or your puppet rather) is an island nation; why is it under threat from a foreign power? Does it straddle a vital trade route, or is it the source of valuable resources (oil, gold, or perhaps something less cliche like bauxite, uranium, or even grain)? Maybe the aggressor is out for revenge for a past defeat, or is the island simply an unfortunate target picked at random by a dictatorship looking to flex its muscle? Even the reverse could be true, with the island being home to a murderous regime that a coalition of more liberal nations are seeking to overthrow.

I don't want to tell you what to do with your own RP, but having a more concrete idea of where you want the story to begin and end will go a long way toward preventing the thread from stagnating, and will help to keep it a decent RP rather than degenerating into a numbers/tech wankfest.
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Postby Astholm » Tue Oct 26, 2010 2:09 pm

Winning and losing is not important, in this case. Semi-realistic RP is; it's not intended to be an all-action, or overdramatised RP with unrealistic things or any cliched ideas.
The time period is defined though, so one thing is certain - it's set in 2010 and may go into 2011 if people are interested - this is meant to be a long-term RP, split into several threads, just to reflect its semi-realistic nature.

However, the reasons for the attack can be one of the following - to be decided by all players via a voting process that would last for a defined period, a week possibly:
  • Economic reasons - goods like wheat, wine, oil (olive oil, not oil as in petroleum), bauxite, aluminium/metals
  • Dictatorship has picked it at random (Note: To Malkyer, good idea there!)
  • Attack on Eastern European or other diaspora due to hatred by island across the water of the peoples on the island nation in the RP
    (Disclaimer: This is not intended to be racism against them, and communism etc. would not be a factor but it adds a semblance of semi-reality to it. This is not intended as a racist slight)
  • Nation trying to topple capitalist nation (possible good scenario there?)

Malkyer, thanks for your help. :)

There's some ideas to play with. Hope this helps.

As for the training RP, what's everyone's thoughts on that?
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I have multiple puppets here; only a select few are used to represent the continent of Astholm; others used represent Westholme, and do not artificially boost my nation's statistics.Previously i used puppets with nation names that did not identify as Astholm (e.g. Australis Australia; now all new puppets use ASTHLM, NORTHLM, SOUTHLM, WESTHLM (HLM denoting The Holmes.
NOTE: Other uses of Astholm here have a different continuity and refer to work created by the user Astholm, not the nation

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Postby The Union of Tetrika » Tue Oct 26, 2010 2:12 pm

I'd certainly be interested in taking part in this.

Would it be possible for a Union Warship to be in port at the Island on a supply mission when the attack happens and by guys get caught in the middile and unable (Convinetly) to contact my Government for a while. My Captain offers his assisstance.

It'd give me a chance to roleplay on a much lower, more character based level.
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Postby Astholm » Tue Oct 26, 2010 2:26 pm

The Union of Tetrika wrote:I'd certainly be interested in taking part in this.

Would it be possible for a Union Warship to be in port at the Island on a supply mission when the attack happens and by guys get caught in the middile and unable (Convinetly) to contact my Government for a while. My Captain offers his assisstance.

It'd give me a chance to roleplay on a much lower, more character based level.



Yes, you are accepted for this RP, and your scenario is accepted.

As for the island concerned, here's some idea of its size:
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but it wouldn't be a direct copy of, or even based on, New Zealand, it would be its own distinct nation. The other islands would be separate from it - it's not a nation split in half.
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I have multiple puppets here; only a select few are used to represent the continent of Astholm; others used represent Westholme, and do not artificially boost my nation's statistics.Previously i used puppets with nation names that did not identify as Astholm (e.g. Australis Australia; now all new puppets use ASTHLM, NORTHLM, SOUTHLM, WESTHLM (HLM denoting The Holmes.
NOTE: Other uses of Astholm here have a different continuity and refer to work created by the user Astholm, not the nation

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Postby Power and Stability » Tue Oct 26, 2010 3:34 pm

Okay, those are soom good ideas. I like the one about the Dictator, an invasion for economic reasons or overthrowing the goverment has been done many times before. Maybe there's a country nearby, who sees you as a possible threat and decides to strike first?
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Postby Malkyer » Thu Oct 28, 2010 1:53 pm

Any further thoughts here?
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I reserve the right to ignore any and all IC posts that I find excessively unrealistic and/or stupid.

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Postby Astholm » Fri Oct 29, 2010 11:42 am

In reply to Malkyer; yes, we would have a training RP first, then the proper thing.
The training RP could be used to point out errors in RPing, and constructive criticism etc. - and mods are invited to play too.

However, 10 players is the absolute limit for this RP - as that makes it easier to handle for all.
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I have multiple puppets here; only a select few are used to represent the continent of Astholm; others used represent Westholme, and do not artificially boost my nation's statistics.Previously i used puppets with nation names that did not identify as Astholm (e.g. Australis Australia; now all new puppets use ASTHLM, NORTHLM, SOUTHLM, WESTHLM (HLM denoting The Holmes.
NOTE: Other uses of Astholm here have a different continuity and refer to work created by the user Astholm, not the nation

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Postby Finnish North America » Fri Oct 29, 2010 12:25 pm

I'll take part in the RP.
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Postby Astholm » Fri Oct 29, 2010 12:26 pm

Finnish North America wrote:I'll take part in the RP.


Accepted.
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Postby Mytannion » Fri Oct 29, 2010 1:18 pm

If you wish for me to take part, I am in. This looks good. As long as I'm not on whichever side is fascist.
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Postby Astholm » Fri Oct 29, 2010 4:28 pm

Mytannion wrote:If you wish for me to take part, I am in. This looks good. As long as I'm not on whichever side is fascist.


Accepted. Feel free to contribute ideas to this thread. :)
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Postby Antarsia » Fri Oct 29, 2010 10:59 pm

Though you already seem to have your 5 players, I am willing to contribute whatever I know, if you wish.
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Postby Vortiaganica » Fri Oct 29, 2010 11:30 pm

I've had RP experience before, but not as serious as the stuff that happens here sometimes.

Plus, I need a chance to develop my national 'identity' (e.g. mannerisms and quirks of my citizens), since I still have no time to develop my nation's factbook itself yet.

If you have space for a semi-newbie, sign me up.
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Postby Astholm » Sat Oct 30, 2010 12:14 pm

Antarsia, Vortiganica - you are both accepted.
The limit of number of players for this RP - and the training RP - is 10 players, so you're within the rules.

Antarsia, glad to have someone like you along with Malkyer, this could be interesting.
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Postby Mytannion » Sat Oct 30, 2010 12:52 pm

Would it be okay, if I sort of act as a peacekeeping nation. And then someone makes a direct attack on a small unit of my army. Who are helping civilians or something similiar.

This would be good for if one nation had a natural disaster - say an earthquake for simplicities sake at the moment - and another nation decides to invade because the nation is vulnerable but still has natural resources or something...and then a few of us could be helping the nation get back on their feet whilst the other nations help invade...or something?
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Postby Astholm » Sat Oct 30, 2010 2:12 pm

Mytannion wrote:Would it be okay, if I sort of act as a peacekeeping nation. And then someone makes a direct attack on a small unit of my army. Who are helping civilians or something similiar.

This would be good for if one nation had a natural disaster - say an earthquake for simplicities sake at the moment - and another nation decides to invade because the nation is vulnerable but still has natural resources or something...and then a few of us could be helping the nation get back on their feet whilst the other nations help invade...or something?


Yes, you can be a peacekeeping nation, that's one thing I hadn't thought of.

As for the cause of the war, I'm looking for any ideas people could have....
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I have multiple puppets here; only a select few are used to represent the continent of Astholm; others used represent Westholme, and do not artificially boost my nation's statistics.Previously i used puppets with nation names that did not identify as Astholm (e.g. Australis Australia; now all new puppets use ASTHLM, NORTHLM, SOUTHLM, WESTHLM (HLM denoting The Holmes.
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Postby Astholm » Tue Nov 02, 2010 10:26 am

OK, is anyone still interested? I haven't posted it yet though...
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Postby Finnish North America » Tue Nov 02, 2010 2:02 pm

I'm still interested.
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Postby Astholm » Wed Nov 03, 2010 10:59 am

Finnish North America wrote:I'm still interested.


Anyone got any further ideas on developing this?
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I have multiple puppets here; only a select few are used to represent the continent of Astholm; others used represent Westholme, and do not artificially boost my nation's statistics.Previously i used puppets with nation names that did not identify as Astholm (e.g. Australis Australia; now all new puppets use ASTHLM, NORTHLM, SOUTHLM, WESTHLM (HLM denoting The Holmes.
NOTE: Other uses of Astholm here have a different continuity and refer to work created by the user Astholm, not the nation

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