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Postby Raven Corps » Wed Jul 08, 2009 9:27 pm

This one has a different helmet and connections:

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Postby Reijvajik » Wed Jul 08, 2009 9:28 pm

[Those suits are so not a turn on. At least the people in our navy are mildly attractive.]
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Postby Comorostan » Wed Jul 08, 2009 9:32 pm

Comrostan hereby expresses it's support for it's allies Ralkovia and Griffencrest Corporation, and also asks that the CAG try and avoid pointless bloodshed and surrender.
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Postby Cantr VI » Wed Jul 08, 2009 9:33 pm

OOC: My problem with them is that they're needlessly bulky and cumbersome. The size of those pauldrons, the excessive armor on the arms..But really, you've only got so much to work with when you're skimming the internet for "scary soldier of DEATH" so I'm not going to raise a fuss about how they look, just about how they're used.

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Postby Raven Corps » Wed Jul 08, 2009 9:40 pm

You wouldn't want one of those guys to turn you on...what they go through to wear that armor is horriblely painful, and would make other cringe. For under that armor is skin that hasn't seen sunlight in 10 years, much less open air.... Their eye lids are removed so they do not blink and are constantly inhaling Vaporized Steriods and hyper-hydrated air, with concentrate morphine injections for aches and pains. The surface of the skin, before armor is applied, is flash burned to kill off all nerve endings to eliminate any pain felt from wounds received during battle.... unless you like that kinky stuff

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The thing about my armor is that Titainium is extremely light. a one lbs brick of iron would be nearly 3x as large as a 1 LBS brick of Titianium. All the ARMOR would weight about 100 LBS fully assembled. The weapon, ammo-pack and bonus armor attachments add about 100 LBS. equalling a gran total of 200 or so LBS of armor and equipment which is about how much the standard U.S. Infantryman carries on ruck marches. a U.S. Cav. Scout carries about 250 with Radio added. so is feasible. But for use... these are many basic soldier. They simply attack in regular fashions and my personel fav... the Line and File death march. But remember those pics show everything that CAN be attached and used. Most SF dont use that much, thus makes them weight less.


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Postby Daiwiz » Wed Jul 08, 2009 9:42 pm

OOC:Aint this technically spam lol? I didn't mean that it takes 100 men to kill 1 death guard. It's more that the kill death ratio seems alot like 100 kills to 1 death against the average NS infantryman. Now, against Elite commandos with tank support, and high calibre rifles/MGs...That's a different story. You gotta admit though, most soldiers would be wondering wtf, and poorly trained troops would break and run seeing those dudes.

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Postby Raven Corps » Wed Jul 08, 2009 9:47 pm

Daiwiz wrote:OOC:Aint this technically spam lol? I didn't mean that it takes 100 men to kill 1 death guard. It's more that the kill death ratio seems alot like 100 kills to 1 death against the average NS infantryman. Now, against Elite commandos with tank support, and high calibre rifles/MGs...That's a different story. You gotta admit though, most soldiers would be wondering wtf, and poorly trained troops would break and run seeing those dudes.


Thats normally all Super-soldiers are used for in most N.S. wars- morale boosters and enemy demotivators. I have no super soldiers My SF do a good enough job all by their lonesome.


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Postby Kagetora » Wed Jul 08, 2009 9:47 pm

You wouldn't want one of those guys to turn you on...what they go through to wear that armor is horriblely painful, and would make other cringe. For under that armor is skin that hasn't seen sunlight in 10 years, much less open air.... Their eye lids are removed so they do not blink and are constantly inhaling Vaporized Steriods and hyper-hydrated air, with concentrate morphine injections for aches and pains. The surface of the skin, before armor is applied, is flash burned to kill off all nerve endings to eliminate any pain felt from wounds received during battle.... unless you like that kinky stuff


The loss of nerves is a horrible thing. For one, you probably won't notice you're bleeding to death. Another is the loss of coordination requiring fine nerve endings, like in the fingers. Not to mention, a bullet will penetrate the skin, so not feeling it on the skin won't make a difference.

Now the removal of eyelids would make them prone to eye infections. Now you'll probably say "UH UH! MAI SOOT IZ PRESHURIZED!" Well a pressurized suit is easy to burst, and once it is burst, organisms will be going inside.
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Postby Cantr VI » Wed Jul 08, 2009 9:48 pm

OOC: Um, don't US infantrymen carry things like, say, food in those packs? If these guys need to head back to base every time they need to eat a meal (or ingest the needed nutrition, however creepy way they do that), they're going to have incredibly limited range. That being said, using them as shock troops makes sense (assuming you can supply them). It's using them as Warhammer 40K ubersoldiers that makes me fire up the IGNORE Cannons.

EDIT: Also, I would find it a lot easier to take you guys seriously if you didn't have the default nation flag. Just sayin'.
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Re: A war to End All Wars (attn: EVERYONE!)

Postby Raven Corps » Wed Jul 08, 2009 9:59 pm

Kagetora wrote:The loss of nerves is a horrible thing. For one, you probably won't notice you're bleeding to death. Another is the loss of coordination requiring fine nerve endings, like in the fingers. Not to mention, a bullet will penetrate the skin, so not feeling it on the skin won't make a difference.

Now the removal of eyelids would make them prone to eye infections. Now you'll probably say "UH UH! MAI SOOT IZ PRESHURIZED!" Well a pressurized suit is easy to burst, and once it is burst, organisms will be going inside.


These guys before their suits are applied go through about 2 years adaptive training to compensate for the loss. But as you state above you wouldn't notice if you where bleeding to death- percisely. I send hundred to their death to cities and thousands upon thousand to take nations on the ground. Thats why I save Troopers but bombarding the nation for weeks before actually invading. by the time the bombs stop falling most nations are a broken shell of their former selves. Famine and general anarchy normal ensues... normally. As for infections.... the average life expectancy is low I'm not worried about it.

Now for a long term-multi-week ground fight they would not likely win and would be overcome once they needed to eat. I really dont use them as infantry but more as Shock-Troopers I have another version which is suited more for the Infantry life if you want to see them...


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Postby Allied Governments » Wed Jul 08, 2009 10:02 pm

Kagetora wrote:
You wouldn't want one of those guys to turn you on...what they go through to wear that armor is horriblely painful, and would make other cringe. For under that armor is skin that hasn't seen sunlight in 10 years, much less open air.... Their eye lids are removed so they do not blink and are constantly inhaling Vaporized Steriods and hyper-hydrated air, with concentrate morphine injections for aches and pains. The surface of the skin, before armor is applied, is flash burned to kill off all nerve endings to eliminate any pain felt from wounds received during battle.... unless you like that kinky stuff


The loss of nerves is a horrible thing. For one, you probably won't notice you're bleeding to death. Another is the loss of coordination requiring fine nerve endings, like in the fingers. Not to mention, a bullet will penetrate the skin, so not feeling it on the skin won't make a difference.

Now the removal of eyelids would make them prone to eye infections. Now you'll probably say "UH UH! MAI SOOT IZ PRESHURIZED!" Well a pressurized suit is easy to burst, and once it is burst, organisms will be going inside.


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Postby Raven Corps » Wed Jul 08, 2009 10:05 pm

Make .... please my good sir they have existed for years... Plus How you take super-soldiers all depends on how you RP. I am a Story Rper- I RP to make a good story even if I have to lose, others RP to show off tech know-how others just do it to help their self-esteem.


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Postby Cantr VI » Wed Jul 08, 2009 10:10 pm

Raven corps wrote:
Kagetora wrote:The loss of nerves is a horrible thing. For one, you probably won't notice you're bleeding to death. Another is the loss of coordination requiring fine nerve endings, like in the fingers. Not to mention, a bullet will penetrate the skin, so not feeling it on the skin won't make a difference.

Now the removal of eyelids would make them prone to eye infections. Now you'll probably say "UH UH! MAI SOOT IZ PRESHURIZED!" Well a pressurized suit is easy to burst, and once it is burst, organisms will be going inside.


These guys before their suits are applied go through about 2 years adaptive training to compensate for the loss.


I'm no expert, but I'm pretty sure that no amount of adaptive training is going to help you if your bodies defenses have been stripped away. That's like putting someone through adaptive training so they can live a normal life without an immune system. It just can't be done. The immune system is the defense.
But as you state above you wouldn't notice if you where bleeding to death- percisely. I send hundred to their death to cities and thousands upon thousand to take nations on the ground. Thats why I save Troopers but bombarding the nation for weeks before actually invading. by the time the bombs stop falling most nations are a broken shell of their former selves.
*cough*BattleofBritain*cough*
Famine and general anarchy normal ensues... normally. As for infections.... the average life expectancy is low I'm not worried about it.
The cost of creating and arming one of these soldiers is immense. Every single one takes a lifetime to create. And you're throwing them away like they're nothing? Keep in mind these guys are designed to die much faster than normal soldiers. A normal soldier gets a relatively light shrapnel wound, he hurts, he gets a medic, he's good to go in three days. These guys get killed by it. This is not a cost-effective strategy.

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Make .... please my good sir they have existed for years... Plus How you take super-soldiers all depends on how you RP. I am a Story Rper- I RP to make a good story even if I have to lose, others RP to show off tech know-how others just do it to help their self-esteem.


Have you considered making super soldiers who would actually make good characters, then? Ones with regular human emotions we could relate to and such? Because if you're playing as the Evil Empire, and that's the extent of your nations RP, you're ultimately going to lose every single war except when it's intentionally written as a tragedy.
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Postby Raven Corps » Wed Jul 08, 2009 10:18 pm

It takes a bit more then Sharpnel to penetrate these suits. Their Immune system is fine, they have no eye lids... not A.I.D.s.lol and they will never resume normal lives. Once they are birthed they go right into training. They are not all to expensive to make either. Conqured Garrison Locations produce the soldiers, armor, Weapons, and all the Items needed to train and deploy the soldiers. I spend nothing on labor as the workers are test-tube babies with only one purpose in life- make soldiers and their equipment. I could possiblly explian everything in one night All that goes into the SF Trooper. I could go through a Q & A like event through TG if you like to clear things up, I dought you care enough to do so.

Your more likely to see my SF soldier on the field anyways.

I am an evil Corporation... the Original evil Corporation. I have no homeland, no nation to call my own. I have Garrisons which are more like owned property. Just think of massive Super-complexes sprawling hundreds of miles all doing hundreds of different operations in support of the Corporations Assets Absorbtion Operations.
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Re: A war to End All Wars (attn: EVERYONE!)

Postby Allied Governments » Wed Jul 08, 2009 10:18 pm

Cantr VI wrote:
Raven corps wrote:
Kagetora wrote:The loss of nerves is a horrible thing. For one, you probably won't notice you're bleeding to death. Another is the loss of coordination requiring fine nerve endings, like in the fingers. Not to mention, a bullet will penetrate the skin, so not feeling it on the skin won't make a difference.

Now the removal of eyelids would make them prone to eye infections. Now you'll probably say "UH UH! MAI SOOT IZ PRESHURIZED!" Well a pressurized suit is easy to burst, and once it is burst, organisms will be going inside.


These guys before their suits are applied go through about 2 years adaptive training to compensate for the loss.


I'm no expert, but I'm pretty sure that no amount of adaptive training is going to help you if your bodies defenses have been stripped away. That's like putting someone through adaptive training so they can live a normal life without an immune system. It just can't be done. The immune system is the defense.
But as you state above you wouldn't notice if you where bleeding to death- percisely. I send hundred to their death to cities and thousands upon thousand to take nations on the ground. Thats why I save Troopers but bombarding the nation for weeks before actually invading. by the time the bombs stop falling most nations are a broken shell of their former selves.
*cough*BattleofBritain*cough*
Famine and general anarchy normal ensues... normally. As for infections.... the average life expectancy is low I'm not worried about it.
The cost of creating and arming one of these soldiers is immense. Every single one takes a lifetime to create. And you're throwing them away like they're nothing? Keep in mind these guys are designed to die much faster than normal soldiers. A normal soldier gets a relatively light shrapnel wound, he hurts, he gets a medic, he's good to go in three days. These guys get killed by it. This is not a cost-effective strategy.

Also...

Make .... please my good sir they have existed for years... Plus How you take super-soldiers all depends on how you RP. I am a Story Rper- I RP to make a good story even if I have to lose, others RP to show off tech know-how others just do it to help their self-esteem.


Have you considered making super soldiers who would actually make good characters, then? Ones with regular human emotions we could relate to and such? Because if you're playing as the Evil Empire, and that's the extent of your nations RP, you're ultimately going to lose every single war except when it's intentionally written as a tragedy.


Reminds me of how I designed most of my "Supersoldiers" (not really supersoldiers in my opinion, they just serve niches in the military) Praetorians are simply men and women with intense training and excellent gear, nothing more, nothing less, they are subject to terror campaigns and things such as that.

Conclave Templars and Paladins are a little harder to explain, since I have never really described them other then they're appearance.
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Postby Democratic Federation » Wed Jul 08, 2009 10:23 pm

The closest thing my nation would have to supersoldiers are elite special operations forces like the Federal Navy's Seal Air Land commandos.

Then again, SEALs are pretty much supersoldiers so it doesn't make much of a difference besides the shiny suits your guys get. :P
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Postby Raven Corps » Wed Jul 08, 2009 10:25 pm

Thats why I rarely use my SF Troopers. I use my SF soldiers for most things... my Troopers are just good for general Slaughter of everyone and everything.


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Postby Bisgea » Thu Jul 09, 2009 1:21 am

I shall fight with CAG to the end!
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Postby OMGeverynameistaken » Thu Jul 09, 2009 1:33 am

As an FT nation, I feel I should say...

My super soldiers would be the Life Guard. They're selected for height, strength, and the ability to grow a really spiffing mustache. They are, however, completely human, unmodified, but quite well equipped. No fancy armor, though, just a kinetic shield per battalion, a linear musket per man and the undying loyalty to Mother Russia. They also have really awesome hats.
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Postby Tybra » Thu Jul 09, 2009 2:14 am

Imperial Letter of defence

To: Chetssaland
Subject: Aid in battle

The holy empire of Tybra has observed your struggle. Though we are currently involved with certain other affairs, we would offer a helping hand, be it economical humanitarian or military in form.

We do however not see how this is in our best interest, a war is costly, and requires intensive planning and information gathering. Ought this to change and would we be involved in some way that these wars would harm our economical or military interest then we would must certainly aid you.

However since it's currently not in the best interests of the holy empire we will remain neutral.

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Postby Ralkovia » Thu Jul 09, 2009 5:50 am

Comorostan wrote:
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Ralkovia wrote:You obviously are begging for a death guard curb stomp. Death Guard are trained almost since birth in the Kagetoranian Mts.


OOC: I'm curious to exactly where these Kagetoranian Mountains are. Based on the similarity to the proper demonym of my nation, Kagetorian, I assume they are within my nation, to which I wonder how exactly they got there and get out.

OOC-They're just that good.

Seriously, I have no idea. I'm not Ralkovia. Or am I :eyebrow: ....wait, nope.



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Postby Opola » Thu Jul 09, 2009 5:54 am

The Empire of Opola as a member of the CAG help any member that was attacked.
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Postby Ralkovia » Thu Jul 09, 2009 5:54 am

Raven corps wrote:Hey Ralkovia, you know I've been using that basic design for my Sf trooper for years.lol. I could post a better picture of my guys though. I'll see if I can find it... lost in the depths of my CPU....

Raven corps SF trooper:
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NICE!!! I LIKE IT. However its the only thing I can find that sort of fits what the death guard look like. Of course death guard come in all different colors...except for purple and green. We don't ever do those colors together...many men were lost...it will never happen again. Anyway, I use the death guard in different ways some are trained in Urban, some in desert, some in well everywhere else in the world.
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Postby Opola » Thu Jul 09, 2009 6:13 am

The empire of Opola will fight until defeat. The CAG must be preserved!
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Postby Augmark » Thu Jul 09, 2009 6:20 am

Death Guard......, you have any idea how much hell the people inside hat gear would go through in any combat situation? Its Bulky, cumbersome, heavy, and god forbid if you have to go through tight areas. From personal experience with heavy (though not armored) gear, which includes SCBA cylinders and masks, its not fun, and with added armor, it would be hell. Plus, add the heat of high intensity combat scenarios , and needed maneuverability and your done.....this is of course if you're only human

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