Enemies of CAG(OOC/IC)

[Chetssaland]

Yeah theres the thing that I dont like about CAG. We accept too many people. I didnt want Commack, Augmark, or Opola, but we got them. We need to stop accepting everyone. Hell, we even accepted some one with half and application. I'll give you that, they do accept too many people.

I told you guys to stop doing that. Seriously, when this is over, and CAG happens to rise from the ashes, I need a bit more power there to stop this kind of thing happening again.

I know man I know. Next time either they get stricter about who gets in or I look over the application and decide.

[Gracefall]

Certainly not you, Chetty. I still believe you do need some training, no offense meant.

Revolvisa, yeah, you'd be good.

Perhaps a vote, actually?

[Unkerlantum]

Wow how did this divulge into this?

This whole jolters Vs New Forums thing is quite amusing though.

[Chetssaland]

Certainly not you, Chetty. I still believe you do need some training, no offense meant.

Revolvisa, yeah, you'd be good.

Perhaps a vote, actually?

But is training necessary for accepting or denying people? I know I need training for Rping still. We were gonna have votes but then it didnt happen. Yeah I have to say, theres a lot that needs to be done differently this time around. Maybe this attack is good for CAG.

[Leistung]

OOC: DT, I can't even tell you how tired I am of hearing that response. There comes a time where you have to realize that you're stacking the odds to the point where it's no longer fun for new players. It doesn't help that he's setting possibly the worst example I've seen for new players by teleporting a fleet 200 km off someone's shore, firing 600 anti-ship missiles at no particular targets from beyond the radar horizon, and then claiming that a super dreadnought which can launch heavy bombers and have 14 railguns is kosher on NS.

By the way, I notice that when a large player discovers a deposit of oil, Griffencrest is nowhere to be found. It's only when a tiny little guy who has no idea that there's some spiteful corporation lurking around discovers one that he jumps in and invades.

OOC: The odds really aren't stacked. It's part of Ralkovia's and Griffencrest's forces against at least half a dozen nations. And frankly, I personally have no problem with fluid time since 6 months of travel at sea is no fun to write about, but this is getting back into the rut of discussing other people's style and ability publicly. And as I said, Griffencrest's IC style includes wresting resources from smaller nations. Of course they don't attack bigger nations: there are limits on Griffencrest's IC power that its IC leaders know well.

OOC: The odds aren't stacked? Three massive nations against half a dozen tiny 09ers?

The fluid timing isn't what I have an issue with -- it's the fact that he assumes no one would notice him 200 km off the person's coast, or if they did, that they would assume war games.

[Deserted Territories]

OOC: when you look at the numbers people are committing, it's a fraction of the bigger nations against the smaller nations gearing up for a total war.

[Allied Governments]

OOC: when you look at the numbers people are committing, it's a fraction of the bigger nations against the smaller nations gearing up for a total war.

But the bigger nations not only know how to RP better, but they claim access to the most powerful technology conceivable.

[Democratic Federation]

This ship was approved by the NSdraftroom and if you have no idea how naval design works kindly stfu.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=551930

also if you think it's not plausible ask Lyras he designed it and he's one of the better equipment designers.

Also Gracefall i haven't said I'm not better then you,and also I'm here on your side but ok if you want more enemies good job you have one more.

Correction: Best Equipment Designer.

Except Third Spanish States/Confed. is better at jet planes. >_>

[Leistung]

The simple fact of the matter is that there's 3-4 huge nations facing a handful of smaller ones. The larger ones can always send reinforcements, and they know this well. Plus, those nations know how to RP wars (maybe not the specifics quite as well as I'd like, but who's to judge...), and they're claiming technology which is frankly ridiculous. Nothing from DMG should ever be used in an RP -- ever.

Out of curiosity, where's the war happening right now, if not near Sorgan?

[Allied Governments]

This ship was approved by the NSdraftroom and if you have no idea how naval design works kindly stfu.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=551930

also if you think it's not plausible ask Lyras he designed it and he's one of the better equipment designers.

Also Gracefall i haven't said I'm not better then you,and also I'm here on your side but ok if you want more enemies good job you have one more.

Correction: Best Equipment Designer.

Except Third Spanish States/Confed. is better at jet planes. >_>

Just because it's plausible doesn't mean you can build it in MT.

[Allied Governments]

The simple fact of the matter is that there's 3-4 huge nations facing a handful of smaller ones. The larger ones can always send reinforcements, and they know this well. Plus, those nations know how to RP wars (maybe not the specifics quite as well as I'd like, but who's to judge...), and they're claiming technology which is frankly ridiculous. Nothing from DMG should ever be used in an RP -- ever.

Out of curiosity, where's the war happening right now, if not near Sorgan?

DMG?

It's apparently over, since Sorgan gave up.

[Revolvisia]

Certainly not you, Chetty. I still believe you do need some training, no offense meant.

Revolvisa, yeah, you'd be good.

Perhaps a vote, actually?

But is training necessary for accepting or denying people? I know I need training for Rping still. We were gonna have votes but then it didnt happen. Yeah I have to say, theres a lot that needs to be done differently this time around. Maybe this attack is good for CAG.

So this is not our end, simply a chance to learn what we did wrong and start again. And I'm quite happy to take over CAG or co-lead should it be in the interests of everyone.

Out of curiosity, where's the war happening right now, if not near Sorgan?

There was one in Sorgan, which I believe we retreated. A second in Gracefall, which we haven't really fought since Griffencrest has pulled out all these ships. And the third is against Kim Jong-Ilia, though I don't know where that is.

[The Scandinvans]

i will help Sorgan.

Not with epic godmods.

and you practice slavery. to keep it up in this world is sad.

Yet do I violate the rules of rp by doing so no?

There is a standard habit of people following the same set of rules.

[Georgetpwn]

who asked you for your opinion?

[The Scandinvans]

This ship was approved by the NSdraftroom and if you have no idea how naval design works kindly stfu.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=551930

also if you think it's not plausible ask Lyras he designed it and he's one of the better equipment designers.

Also Gracefall i haven't said I'm not better then you,and also I'm here on your side but ok if you want more enemies good job you have one more.

Correction: Best Equipment Designer.

Except Third Spanish States/Confed. is better at jet planes. >_>

Just because it's plausible doesn't mean you can build it in MT.

Sometimes, some nations build ships for bragging rights, but we cannot use them due to their inability to leave harbor.

[Leistung]

who asked you for your opinion?

Calm down, it's an online RPing game.

[The Scandinvans]

No destroying.....not very much at least. I know that the CAG members who join me will be able to restart their alliance. We are merely here to....educate....and conquer.

We are the Jolters. Lower your weapons and disband the CAG. We will educate you in the means of proper grammar and weapon designs. Your culture will adapt to serve us. Resistance is futile.

It is good to see that your sense of humor hasn't faded, and also that you are a Star Trekie.

[Deserted Territories]

The simple fact of the matter is that there's 3-4 huge nations facing a handful of smaller ones. The larger ones can always send reinforcements, and they know this well. Plus, those nations know how to RP wars (maybe not the specifics quite as well as I'd like, but who's to judge...), and they're claiming technology which is frankly ridiculous. Nothing from DMG should ever be used in an RP -- ever.

Out of curiosity, where's the war happening right now, if not near Sorgan?

OOC: My line of thought was that if it dragged on to necessitate reinforcements the investment would overshadow the gains and Griffencrest would most likely move on.

[Democratic Federation]

Just because it's plausible doesn't mean you can build it in MT.

It's the whole "MINE'S BIGGAR LOL" mentality.

Just like the Cold War.

[OMGeverynameistaken]

Just because it's plausible doesn't mean you can build it in MT.

It's the whole "MINE'S BIGGAR LOL" mentality.

Just like the Cold War.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Landkreuzer_P._1000_Ratte

Alright people, opinions...effective land warfare machine, or giant, ground-attack aircraft target?

YOU DECIDE.

In MT, the goal should be to achieve the ideal size, not the biggest size. In fact, your goal should be to build things as SMALL as possible. Preferably as cheaply as possible. Big things are big targets and anything that big will be the target of 20 cruise missiles the moment it appears on the field. Likewise "LOL GIGANTIC 100KM SHIP W/25 AWESOMEGUNS" should instantly be the subject of intense scrutiny by a number of explosive devices.

If the controller of said ship pulls some "DERP DERP 500 CIWS UR MISSLZ DIE" you're free to ignore them at that point. Or drop some godrods on their ship.

Am I the only one who remembers the heyday of godrods? Everybody had them. Good times. Of course, back then PMT/MT were the same thing and FT wasn't 'properly' separated.

[Chetssaland]

Certainly not you, Chetty. I still believe you do need some training, no offense meant.

Revolvisa, yeah, you'd be good.

Perhaps a vote, actually?

But is training necessary for accepting or denying people? I know I need training for Rping still. We were gonna have votes but then it didnt happen. Yeah I have to say, theres a lot that needs to be done differently this time around. Maybe this attack is good for CAG.

So this is not our end, simply a chance to learn what we did wrong and start again. And I'm quite happy to take over CAG or co-lead should it be in the interests of everyone.

I wasnt offering to lead CAG, I was just offering to accept and deny. Master M should still be our leader though.

[Unkerlantum]

I dont use DMG equipment. All of my equipment is NSD approved.

So is the ooc bitchfest over? Or is everything getting retconned or what?

[Lizardiar]

I dont use DMG equipment. All of my equipment is NSD approved.

So is the ooc bitchfest over? Or is everything getting retconned or what?

ooc: The bitchfest will never be over......you know that.

[Unkerlantum]

and what about my second question

[Lizardiar]

and what about my second question

I don't think we'll get there since the bitchfest will never end.


Also, to all those who want to run CAG.....

Everyone is in charge. We have voted on all our issues, and everyone got the same amount of votes. 1. And that is how much the members got, and how much the founders got.

We are all in charge, we made CAG to let the members never have to follow the leaders wishes. We are an alliance of choice and of democracy.