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Postby Chetssaland » Sat Jul 04, 2009 4:18 pm

Dude, if you go to the beach you could get your ass blown off by a mine!

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Postby Allied Governments » Sat Jul 04, 2009 4:20 pm

Comaack, the cost of all this, not to mention the sheer logistics, tech required, and other practical points, is laughably against you on this.
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Postby Trefoilland » Sat Jul 04, 2009 4:20 pm

History repeats itself. Don't fall in to the same traps as Hitler and the Atlantic Wall did!

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Postby Fatatatutti » Sat Jul 04, 2009 4:22 pm

Comaack wrote:We have some beaches for civilian use.

If I was going to attack you, I think I'd invade the civilian beaches.

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Postby Trefoilland » Sat Jul 04, 2009 4:24 pm

OOC: And I think you should strengthen your Air Force and Navy, rather than building huge bunkers easily blown to pieces by jets.

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Postby Chetssaland » Sat Jul 04, 2009 4:25 pm

Comaack wrote:Well, civilians never go to the beach anyway, most are at home playing Call of Duty or at work. Also, they are too small to establish a stable beachead.


Theres an exuse for everything isn't there. If I said I was spraying nerve gas you would say your people are fish or dont breathe or something.

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Postby Third Spanish States » Sat Jul 04, 2009 4:28 pm

Comaack wrote:will disable all approachin vessels in a 2 KM Radius. Although we will only use it as a last resort, we will use our nuclear weapons if provoked, but to prevent civilian deaths, will attempt to give warning an hour before use.


(OOC: Although I will only use it as a last resort, I will use the IGNORE CANNON if necessary, but to prevent Internet Drama, will give a warning first about how this is totally unrealistic and wanked.)
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Postby Allied Governments » Sat Jul 04, 2009 4:28 pm

Comaack wrote:They wear gas masks :)


This is VX Nerve gas, it seeps into the skin.
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Postby Cukarica » Sat Jul 04, 2009 4:39 pm

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Comaack you should use those funds to equip your forces better, massive forts aren't gonna do shit against modern fleets and artillery.

Atlantic wall was FAIL, don't make that mistake.

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Postby Trefoilland » Sat Jul 04, 2009 4:44 pm

Comaack wrote:
Trefoilland wrote:OOC: And I think you should strengthen your Air Force and Navy, rather than building huge bunkers easily blown to pieces by jets.


You do have a point. I will do that instead.


So... that means the Wall is cancelled?

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Postby Volzgrad » Sat Jul 04, 2009 4:46 pm

Cukarica wrote:[OOC]
Comaack you should use those funds to equip your forces better, massive forts aren't gonna do shit against modern fleets and artillery.

Atlantic wall was FAIL, don't make that mistake.

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OOC: To be fair, coastal defenses still most certainly have their uses. However, that doesn't mean they are undefeatable bastions of ownage; they still need to be supported by local aircraft, artillery, mobile infantry, and naval forces. Pouring all of your resources into a single giant wall of concrete forts is just begging for your opponent to turn them to rubble using airpower and naval bombardment; and lets not even talk about if your enemy decides to drop paratroopers or other airborne infantry behind your lines like in Normandy.

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Postby Salzland » Sat Jul 04, 2009 4:53 pm

OOC: Or an invading nation could simply sit safely off-shore as Comaack attempts to supply his 20 million men holding these positions, fails horribly because the logistics capacity for maintaining said positions would be hard to meet for a nation five times his size, and walk ashore once the defenders had starved to death. Or simply hit the massive logistics depots, railyards, etcetra necessary to even attempt to supply these soldiers with cruise missiles, stealth bombers or even God Rods, and wait for the defenders to either abandon their positions or starve/die of dehydration.

Or simply drop tactical nuclear weapons all along the line and wipe out the entirety of Comaack's army in one fell swoop.
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Postby Comorostan » Sat Jul 04, 2009 4:58 pm

OOC-Or just glass his whole country and be done with it.
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Postby Allied Governments » Sat Jul 04, 2009 5:00 pm

Comorostan wrote:OOC-Or just glass his whole country and be done with it.


The problem with people like this is that, if they went along with it the resulting attack on his nation via ten or so major nations would be probably the most awesome RP this forum has seen, but it would devolve into Comaack, or Arivada, ignoring the threats.
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Postby Techno-Soviet » Sat Jul 04, 2009 5:00 pm

Comorostan wrote:OOC-Or just glass his whole country and be done with it.


OOC: I fully endorse this course of action.
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Postby Soutona » Sat Jul 04, 2009 5:01 pm

Wow everbody is really ripping on him, give the guy a break.
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Postby Comorostan » Sat Jul 04, 2009 5:02 pm

Allied Governments wrote:
Comorostan wrote:OOC-Or just glass his whole country and be done with it.


The problem with people like this is that, if they went along with it the resulting attack on his nation via ten or so major nations would be probably the most awesome RP this forum has seen, but it would devolve into Comaack, or Arivada, ignoring the threats.

OOC-Perhaps, but should he participate that would be fucking epic.
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Postby Allied Governments » Sat Jul 04, 2009 5:03 pm

Comorostan wrote:
Allied Governments wrote:
Comorostan wrote:OOC-Or just glass his whole country and be done with it.


The problem with people like this is that, if they went along with it the resulting attack on his nation via ten or so major nations would be probably the most awesome RP this forum has seen, but it would devolve into Comaack, or Arivada, ignoring the threats.

OOC-Perhaps, but should he participate that would be fucking epic.


We need someone with the balls to play a role like that, true.
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Postby Ascelonia » Sat Jul 04, 2009 5:03 pm

Comaack wrote:
Trefoilland wrote:OOC: And I think you should strengthen your Air Force and Navy, rather than building huge bunkers easily blown to pieces by jets.


You do have a point. I will do that instead.


OOC: ahem.... you did forget

Comaack wrote:Massive Bunker Systems are being completed along our shorelines with our garrisons of 20 Million men preparing for war. Many civilians are preparing for an invasion and stockpiling weapons.


OOC: Rather convenient, that you are about to complete a series of massive bunker systems and then tear it down for a refund so you can spend money on strengthening your Air Force and Navy.

OOC: To everyone else, you should've let Comaack continue his course of action only to get torn apart by someone who holds a better understanding of modern military tactics.

Everyone assumes an invasion will come from the coast, but what about a land invasion or an airborne invasion?

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Allied Governments wrote:We need someone with the balls to play a role like that, true.

I'm kind of tempted to make a puppet just for that purpose.

Actually...
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Comorostan wrote:
Allied Governments wrote:We need someone with the balls to play a role like that, true.

I'm kind of tempted to make a puppet just for that purpose.

Actually...


Not a good idea, we'd need a large nation to do it, maybe an '08er or '07er.
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Postby Telvira » Sat Jul 04, 2009 5:06 pm

OOC-Yah.
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Postby Ascelonia » Sat Jul 04, 2009 5:10 pm

Allied Governments wrote:
Comorostan wrote:
Allied Governments wrote:We need someone with the balls to play a role like that, true.

I'm kind of tempted to make a puppet just for that purpose.

Actually...


Not a good idea, we'd need a large nation to do it, maybe an '08er or '07er.


OOC: Last off-topic thing I'll say, is that I'd be up for it, provided that it was alternate history or earlier in my nation's history.

Btw, Comaack, use OOC tags.

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Postby Sorgan » Sat Jul 04, 2009 5:14 pm

Allied Governments wrote:Comaack, the cost of all this, not to mention the sheer logistics, tech required, and other practical points, is laughably against you on this.

Why do you think we gained our independence from him?

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Postby Salzland » Sat Jul 04, 2009 7:07 pm

Allied Governments wrote:
Comorostan wrote:
Allied Governments wrote:We need someone with the balls to play a role like that, true.

I'm kind of tempted to make a puppet just for that purpose.

Actually...


Not a good idea, we'd need a large nation to do it, maybe an '08er or '07er.


OOC: I'd be tempted to do it as a non-canon training RP, like a government VIP wargames exercise. Like it would start with my President being informed of a nuclear attack on one of my carriers, the offender (most likely a sub) being detected, identified as belonging to Nation X, engaged and destroyed, and then have my President moved to a secure bunker and proceed from there.

The entire series of events would, however, ultimately be fictional (In Character) so as no actual damage would be inflicted, allies would not have to be drawn into a full-scale nuclear war, etcetera.
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