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Darner Peninsula War (OOC MT OPEN)

PostPosted: Fri Jan 19, 2024 3:26 pm
by Finarune Valley
IC:https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=545630

Finarune Border near Sun Hill


A light freezing rain softly battered the huge collection of military personal setting out from Cadlin Barrack. The night pierced by various headlights from armored carriers, tanks, and various vehicles ready to bounce across the border from the Republic of the Finarune Valley to the United Socalist States of Crysuko. It was to be a surprise and one to quickly shatter the hope of any defender that was in the way for reclamation. Reclamation for the lands that the Finarunians rightfully deserved, whose inhabitants craved to reunite with its mother nation and now with a well armed military, the time for this great expansion echoed through the Republic. The call was now and even in its small statue, the Finarune Valley would make a shocking statement in just a hour by crossing the border and taking what it was owned...

INFO AND PREMISE OOC


The Republic of Finarune Valley (population 440,594) is a very small country bordering on city-state like status with nearly the entire population living in Finarune City its capital. While officially a Republic, the country has been ruled by President Ledger Uouston for 20 years growing the country into a rich state from its oil reserves offshore that it sells to anyone that can afford it. This abundance of cash has brought along with it a modern and well prepared military with mandatory one year conscription for all citizens before the age of 22.

While the majority of native Finarunians live within the border, a sizable and vocal minority are located across the border on the Crysuko side. Many of the Finaurians living in the Cyrsuko side of the Darner Peninsula (the peninsula that Finarune occupies) feel a strong urge to reunite with the Republic and have formed the Darner-Finarune Unification Front (DFUF) to rebel against the Crysuko government and reunite with the homeland. However, until recently the acts of rebellion were usually limited to formal acts such as petitions or protest but as all these options were met with indifference. This was replaced by gunfights and hostage taking within the last year and with the possibility of the Crysuko government punishing the DFUF a plan has been hatched between the DFUF and The Republic of Finarune Valley.

Operation Wildfire, a military operation to invade the Darner Peninsula and secure it for the Republic. The justification for the invasion being that the land was unjustly taken in a series of invalid land successions to Crysuko and to protect native Finarunians living on the peninsula with a start date being January 19th 2024 at 0200 hours. It will push through the rolling hills and forests that make up the area east of the Rune River, once securing the area the next phase will capture all towns east of the Mural River. This area between the rivers is made up of plains with agriculture lands. If captured the Finarune military will begin to entrench itself until peace can be reached. Operation Opulent will launch simultaneously with a landing ship launching towards Port Hickory to the secure the town and surrounding area. While this conflict will mostly be between Crysuko and the Finarune Valley, like any conflict it might have some benefit for your nation...

RULES AND APP

1. Crysuko and Me are the GMs of this RP. Whatever we say regarding the war is the law.
2. No Godmod, nukes, PMT, and nonhumans are not allowed in this RP.
3. If you would like to assist in the conflict you are limited to 500 troops on the ground and supplies given must be reasonable.
4. Lets have some fun with this!


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[b]NATION NAME:[/b]
[b]LEADER:[/b]
[b]SIDE SUPPRORTING:[/b]
[b]REASON FOR ENTERING CONFLICT:[/b]
[b]ORBAT (IF SENDING TROOPS):[/b]
[b]ANY NOTES?:[/b]


1-5th Light Infantry Battalions
2 Artillery Battalions
2 Motorized Battalions
2 Marine Regiments
1 Anti-Aircraft Regiment
1 Tank Regiment
1 Engineering Battalion
Various DFUF Rebels
Various Reserves
(12k soldiers available)

Air Force
4 Mil Mi-25 Attack Helicopters
4 F-16 Fighting Falcons
Numerous reconnaissance drones and

Navy
3 Patrol Vessels
2 Fast Attack Craft
1 Landing Craft
1 Corvette
1 Submarine

Crysukon ORBAT:

land forces:
1st-10th light infantry regiments
2 divisional artillery battalions (24 towed artillery pieces)
1 divisional engineering battalion
1 divisional logistics battalion
1 divional motorised recon battalion
(Approx 10k men total)

Air forces
20 fixed wing jet fighters

Naval forces
3 missile destroyers
1 missile cruiser
1 air defence frigate

https://postimg.cc/Hr3499tQ
RED Lines indicate the border between Finarune Valley and Crysuko

January 19th 0200
A buildup of Finarune military forces is about to cross the border to secure the towns of Sun Hill, Braunt, and Narrow Ridge. A troop carrier will also head to Port Hickory to secure to town. DFUF forces start to assault police stations and other Crysuko government buildings.

PostPosted: Fri Jan 19, 2024 3:32 pm
by Parouty
NATION NAME: Parouty
LEADER: King Serperior XIV
SIDE SUPPRORTING: Finarune Valley
REASON FOR ENTERING CONFLICT: We hate rebels.
ORBAT (IF SENDING TROOPS): N/A
ANY NOTES?: We only will send financial aid, may change soon.

PostPosted: Fri Jan 19, 2024 3:35 pm
by Kostane
NATION NAME: Kostane
LEADER: Admiral James Port
SIDE SUPPRORTING: Republic of the Finarune Valley
REASON FOR ENTERING CONFLICT: I don't like socialists.
ORBAT (IF SENDING TROOPS): 500 elite Kostan infantry on one Shark-Class submarine. They have a specialized infantry set designed specifically for this war and are veterans of multiple wars. They are equipped with sniper rifles, light machine guns, food and supplies, and camouflage. Between them they have around twenty military vehicles with mounted heavy artillery and machine guns. They also have various explosive kits, such as mines. The destroyer will also have various other gear sets on it to switch out if they need to entire into urban combat or anything else.

EDIT for Orbat: Landing for these troops will be near Port Dusk, to get behind enemy lines.
ANY NOTES?: What do you consider to be MT? Some of my ships use more advanced weapons, but its generally nothing more advanced than the US military could have as a prototype today.

PostPosted: Fri Jan 19, 2024 4:22 pm
by Stella Nera
NATION NAME:Stella Nera
LEADER: The Iron Supreme/Ferra Suprema
SIDE SUPPRORTING:The Reclamators
REASON FOR ENTERING CONFLICT: Support of reclamation, to expand influence and holdings, gain allies, test military equipment, war profiteering, and securement of valuable resources
ORBAT (IF SENDING TROOPS): Stella Nera supports this reclamation ands sends the maximum amount of troops it is allowed, 500 Stella Neran Elite Iron Guard Soldiers, and understands that the AN may have its reasons, such as security, for not allowing more. Since only human troops are allowed, only human forces have been sent, and the Mechanical Android army has remained in the mother nation. In terms of supplies, 2 Railgun Model II's, electromagnetic kinetic projectile launchers, capable of launching steel rods at speeds up to Mach 4, have been sent to accompany the soldiers as artillery. We purposefully sent an old design, and only 2 in number, as it seems reasonable alongside the small force of 500.

Note: Some nations may consider railguns to be a form of WMD's. The latest models indeed are, no doubt, the likes of the Railgun XC are indeed WMD's. However older models, whose speed and restriction to less difficult terrain, makes them arguably, in comparison to such beasts like the Model XC, inferior weaponry, however if you decided to classify Railguns, even the first models, as WMD's, Stella Nera understands the decision.

Alongside that are medical and food supplies to last the soldiers up to a month, as well as $500 million in SN currency, (Scintilla's) which can be converted into local currency.
ANY NOTES?: The Ferra Suprema sends her regards

PostPosted: Sat Jan 20, 2024 2:48 am
by Stella Nera
I will help to take the peninsula, or I could create a diversion and open a front up north, and seize control of the Rune River and the lake it leads into, and the other river that also connects to it.

This is the region I want to invade as a diversion, on the condition I can keep it afterwards

https://ibb.co/wrxN1Ry

PostPosted: Sat Jan 20, 2024 3:16 am
by Socialist Gestachia
NATION NAME:The People's Republic of Socialist Gestachia
LEADER:Chairman of the Presidium of the People's Assembly
SIDE SUPPRORTING:United Socialist States of Crysuko
REASON FOR ENTERING CONFLICT:Defending a fellow socialist state.
ORBAT (IF SENDING TROOPS):500 X8 Heavy Main Battle Tanks, 5 Quantum Class Battleships, 5 guided-missile battlecruisers, 14 light cruisers, 20 destroyers, and 25 missile destroyers, 5000 mechanized infantry, 5500 Lh-54 fighters.
ANY NOTES?:Can we please not have this be like the Kostane civil war? (AKA not have it end as quick as it started) Oh and also let me know if this is too much.

PostPosted: Sat Jan 20, 2024 4:03 am
by The Dan Dynasty
NATION NAME: The Dan Dynasty
LEADER: Dan D. Dan
SIDE SUPPRORTING: Finarune
REASON FOR ENTERING CONFLICT: Peace can only be achieved through warfare. This is one of those situations (literally just peacekeeping)
ORBAT (IF SENDING TROOPS): 100 APCs and 400 infantry.
ANY NOTES?: We will be providing financial support if it allows us to keep one or two provinces after the war.

PostPosted: Sat Jan 20, 2024 6:03 am
by The Fortunian Islands
NATION NAME: The Federal Republic of The Fortunian Islands
LEADER: President Carl Mïlïam
SIDE SUPPRORTING: The Finarune Valley
REASON FOR ENTERING CONFLICT: Ethnicities should be united under the same banner.
ORBAT (IF SENDING TROOPS): Not sending troops yet, But a vote in the Congress will be held shortly.
ANY NOTES?: Economic aid will be sent and maybe Humanitarian Aid if things start to get rough.


I got your back! :hug:

PostPosted: Sat Jan 20, 2024 6:09 am
by Crysuko
Crysukon ORBAT:

land forces:
1st-10th light infantry regiments
2 divisional artillery battalions (24 towed artillery pieces)
1 divisional engineering battalion
1 divisional logistics battalion
1 divional motorised recon battalion
(Approx 10k men total)

Air forces
20 fixed wing jet fighters

Naval forces
3 missile destroyers
1 missile cruiser
1 air defence frigate

The Autonomous Crysukon Socialist Republic (ACSR) of Qaerinthia shall be defended!

Socialist Gestachia wrote:NATION NAME:The People's Republic of Socialist Gestachia
LEADER:Chairman of the Presidium of the People's Assembly
SIDE SUPPRORTING:United Socialist States of Crysuko
REASON FOR ENTERING CONFLICT:Defending a fellow socialist state.
ORBAT (IF SENDING TROOPS):500 X8 Heavy Main Battle Tanks, 5 Quantum Class Battleships, 5 guided-missile battlecruisers, 14 light cruisers, 20 destroyers, and 25 missile destroyers, 5000 mechanized infantry, 5500 Lh-54 fighters.
ANY NOTES?:Can we please not have this be like the Kostane civil war? (AKA not have it end as quick as it started) Oh and also let me know if this is too much.

The limit for ground forces is 500 men, so it'll have to fit within that. Ease up on the air force also.

Stella Nera wrote:NATION NAME:Stella Nera
LEADER: The Iron Supreme/Ferra Suprema
SIDE SUPPRORTING:The Reclamators
REASON FOR ENTERING CONFLICT: Support of reclamation, to expand influence and holdings, gain allies, test military equipment, war profiteering, and securement of valuable resources
ORBAT (IF SENDING TROOPS): Stella Nera supports this reclamation ands sends the maximum amount of troops it is allowed, 500 Stella Neran Elite Iron Guard Soldiers, and understands that the AN may have its reasons, such as security, for not allowing more. Since only human troops are allowed, only human forces have been sent, and the Mechanical Android army has remained in the mother nation. In terms of supplies, 2 Railgun Model II's, electromagnetic kinetic projectile launchers, capable of launching steel rods at speeds up to Mach 4, have been sent to accompany the soldiers as artillery. We purposefully sent an old design, and only 2 in number, as it seems reasonable alongside the small force of 500.

Note: Some nations may consider railguns to be a form of WMD's. The latest models indeed are, no doubt, the likes of the Railgun XC are indeed WMD's. However older models, whose speed and restriction to less difficult terrain, makes them arguably, in comparison to such beasts like the Model XC, inferior weaponry, however if you decided to classify Railguns, even the first models, as WMD's, Stella Nera understands the decision.

Alongside that are medical and food supplies to last the soldiers up to a month, as well as $500 million in SN currency, (Scintilla's) which can be converted into local currency.
ANY NOTES?: The Ferra Suprema sends her regards

Tech level is MT, so bear that in mind.

PostPosted: Sat Jan 20, 2024 6:19 am
by Chia Dal
NATION NAME: The European Federation
LEADER: President Alexis Potter
SIDE SUPPORTING : Finarune Valley
REASON FOR ENTERING CONFLICT: Gain new ally and eliminate the socialists
ORBAT (IF SENDING TROOPS): 6 Platoons of European SAS special forces
ANY NOTES?: Since these are Special forces, I won't be announcing their arrival publicly. I will send your military high command an encrypted message letting them know they are coming.

PostPosted: Sat Jan 20, 2024 11:18 am
by Finarune Valley
Parouty wrote:NATION NAME: Parouty
LEADER: King Serperior XIV
SIDE SUPPRORTING: Finarune Valley
REASON FOR ENTERING CONFLICT: We hate rebels.
ORBAT (IF SENDING TROOPS): N/A
ANY NOTES?: We only will send financial aid, may change soon.


Accepted

Kostane wrote:NATION NAME: Kostane
LEADER: Admiral James Port
SIDE SUPPRORTING: Republic of the Finarune Valley
REASON FOR ENTERING CONFLICT: I don't like socialists.
ORBAT (IF SENDING TROOPS): 500 elite Kostan infantry on one Shark-Class submarine. They have a specialized infantry set designed specifically for this war and are veterans of multiple wars. They are equipped with sniper rifles, light machine guns, food and supplies, and camouflage. Between them they have around twenty military vehicles with mounted heavy artillery and machine guns. They also have various explosive kits, such as mines. The destroyer will also have various other gear sets on it to switch out if they need to entire into urban combat or anything else.

EDIT for Orbat: Landing for these troops will be near Port Dusk, to get behind enemy lines.
ANY NOTES?: What do you consider to be MT? Some of my ships use more advanced weapons, but its generally nothing more advanced than the US military could have as a prototype today.


I will accept this but what exactly is this tech?

Socialist Gestachia wrote:NATION NAME:The People's Republic of Socialist Gestachia
LEADER:Chairman of the Presidium of the People's Assembly
SIDE SUPPRORTING:United Socialist States of Crysuko
REASON FOR ENTERING CONFLICT:Defending a fellow socialist state.
ORBAT (IF SENDING TROOPS):500 X8 Heavy Main Battle Tanks, 5 Quantum Class Battleships, 5 guided-missile battlecruisers, 14 light cruisers, 20 destroyers, and 25 missile destroyers, 5000 mechanized infantry, 5500 Lh-54 fighters.
ANY NOTES?:Can we please not have this be like the Kostane civil war? (AKA not have it end as quick as it started) Oh and also let me know if this is too much.


You got way to much stuff in your ORBAT including going over 500 troops and the amount of ships. Just fix it up and we will be good to go!

The Dan Dynasty wrote:NATION NAME: The Dan Dynasty
LEADER: Dan D. Dan
SIDE SUPPRORTING: Finarune
REASON FOR ENTERING CONFLICT: Peace can only be achieved through warfare. This is one of those situations (literally just peacekeeping)
ORBAT (IF SENDING TROOPS): 100 APCs and 400 infantry.
ANY NOTES?: We will be providing financial support if it allows us to keep one or two provinces after the war.


You can provide aid but the Finarune Valley would not be fighting in this war just to give back significant chucks of territory to other nations :p. If terms after this conflict are favorable towards FV perhaps you could negotiate for a leased port but that is a big if FV wins this conflict. So just don't expect anything.

The Fortunian Islands wrote:NATION NAME: The Federal Republic of The Fortunian Islands
LEADER: President Carl Mïlïam
SIDE SUPPRORTING: The Finarune Valley
REASON FOR ENTERING CONFLICT: Ethnicities should be united under the same banner.
ORBAT (IF SENDING TROOPS): Not sending troops yet, But a vote in the Congress will be held shortly.
ANY NOTES?: Economic aid will be sent and maybe Humanitarian Aid if things start to get rough.


I got your back! :hug:


Accepted Welcome!

Chia Dal wrote:NATION NAME: The European Federation
LEADER: President Alexis Potter
SIDE SUPPORTING : Finarune Valley
REASON FOR ENTERING CONFLICT: Gain new ally and eliminate the socialists
ORBAT (IF SENDING TROOPS): 6 Platoons of European SAS special forces
ANY NOTES?: Since these are Special forces, I won't be announcing their arrival publicly. I will send your military high command an encrypted message letting them know they are coming.


Platoons can vary in size could you give a rough number?

PostPosted: Sat Jan 20, 2024 1:28 pm
by Socialist Gestachia
Socialist Gestachia wrote:NATION NAME:The People's Republic of Socialist Gestachia
LEADER:Chairman of the Presidium of the People's Assembly
SIDE SUPPRORTING:United Socialist States of Crysuko
REASON FOR ENTERING CONFLICT:Defending a fellow socialist state.
ORBAT (IF SENDING TROOPS):500 X8 Heavy Main Battle Tanks, 5 Quantum Class Battleships, 5 guided-missile battlecruisers, 14 light cruisers, 20 destroyers, and 25 missile destroyers, 5000 mechanized infantry, 5500 Lh-54 fighters.
ANY NOTES?:Can we please not have this be like the Kostane civil war? (AKA not have it end as quick as it started) Oh and also let me know if this is too much.

Whoops I didn't see the limit for some reason :? anyways:
LEADER:Chairman of the Presidium of the People's Assembly
SIDE SUPPRORTING:United Socialist States of Crysuko
REASON FOR ENTERING CONFLICT:Defending a fellow socialist state.
ORBAT (IF SENDING TROOPS):100 X8 Heavy Main Battle Tanks, 5 Quantum Class Battleships, 5 guided-missile battlecruisers, 14 light cruisers, 20 destroyers, and 25 missile destroyers, 500 mechanized infantry, 3500 Lh-54 fighters. (I hope the tank crew doesn't count as troops)

PostPosted: Sat Jan 20, 2024 1:33 pm
by Kostane
Finarune Valley wrote:
Kostane wrote:NATION NAME: Kostane
LEADER: Admiral James Port
SIDE SUPPRORTING: Republic of the Finarune Valley
REASON FOR ENTERING CONFLICT: I don't like socialists.
ORBAT (IF SENDING TROOPS): 500 elite Kostan infantry on one Shark-Class submarine. They have a specialized infantry set designed specifically for this war and are veterans of multiple wars. They are equipped with sniper rifles, light machine guns, food and supplies, and camouflage. Between them they have around twenty military vehicles with mounted heavy artillery and machine guns. They also have various explosive kits, such as mines. The destroyer will also have various other gear sets on it to switch out if they need to entire into urban combat or anything else.

EDIT for Orbat: Landing for these troops will be near Port Dusk, to get behind enemy lines.
ANY NOTES?: What do you consider to be MT? Some of my ships use more advanced weapons, but its generally nothing more advanced than the US military could have as a prototype today.


I will accept this but what exactly is this tech?

Laser defense systems and AI automated drones. I won’t use drones with a destroyer because it’s not carrier capable, but so do believe they have some lasers. I can use conventional technology if you want me to. More details are in my navy factbook (my land forces factbook is outdated tho).

PostPosted: Sat Jan 20, 2024 2:43 pm
by Finarune Valley
Kostane wrote:
Finarune Valley wrote:

I will accept this but what exactly is this tech?

Laser defense systems and AI automated drones. I won’t use drones with a destroyer because it’s not carrier capable, but so do believe they have some lasers. I can use conventional technology if you want me to. More details are in my navy factbook (my land forces factbook is outdated tho).


I think more conventional tech would work well if you are alright with that!

PostPosted: Sat Jan 20, 2024 4:47 pm
by Kostane
Finarune Valley wrote:
Kostane wrote:Laser defense systems and AI automated drones. I won’t use drones with a destroyer because it’s not carrier capable, but so do believe they have some lasers. I can use conventional technology if you want me to. More details are in my navy factbook (my land forces factbook is outdated tho).


I think more conventional tech would work well if you are alright with that!

Ok, sounds good. Is what my soldiers are currently armed with (in the ORBAT) fine?

PostPosted: Sat Jan 20, 2024 5:01 pm
by Crysuko
Kostane wrote:
Finarune Valley wrote:
I think more conventional tech would work well if you are alright with that!

Ok, sounds good. Is what my soldiers are currently armed with (in the ORBAT) fine?

It gets a pass from me.

PostPosted: Sat Jan 20, 2024 5:55 pm
by Kostane
Is there an IC thread for this somewhere?

PostPosted: Sun Jan 21, 2024 1:20 am
by Chia Dal
Chia Dal wrote:NATION NAME: The European Federation
LEADER: President Alexis Potter
SIDE SUPPORTING : Finarune Valley
REASON FOR ENTERING CONFLICT: Gain new ally and eliminate the socialists
ORBAT (IF SENDING TROOPS): 6 Platoons of European SAS special forces
ANY NOTES?: Since these are Special forces, I won't be announcing their arrival publicly. I will send your military high command an encrypted message letting them know they are coming.

Each platoon has 16 members and are lead by 2 officers and 14 noncoms.

PostPosted: Sun Jan 21, 2024 3:20 am
by Stella Nera
I'll withdraw the railguns much to my dismay, they seem to futuristic. Instead I'll just send the 500 Elite Front Soldiers of the SN Army, and send them armed with slug rifles (traditional guns) and some kamikaze drones, nerfed to fit MT standards of this realm. 12 Kamikaze drones, all remotely operated, 2020s era in terms of tech.

Everyone is clear on the fact I claim that turf where the lake and Rune river meet, right? I'll invade that region as a diversion against Crysuko.

PostPosted: Sun Jan 21, 2024 7:39 am
by Crysuko
Stella Nera wrote:I'll withdraw the railguns much to my dismay, they seem to futuristic. Instead I'll just send the 500 Elite Front Soldiers of the SN Army, and send them armed with slug rifles (traditional guns) and some kamikaze drones, nerfed to fit MT standards of this realm. 12 Kamikaze drones, all remotely operated, 2020s era in terms of tech.

Everyone is clear on the fact I claim that turf where the lake and Rune river meet, right? I'll invade that region as a diversion against Crysuko.

Taking it is one thing, but holding it?

PostPosted: Sun Jan 21, 2024 8:46 pm
by Finarune Valley
Kostane wrote:Is there an IC thread for this somewhere?

It will be coming up shortly.

Chia Dal wrote:
Chia Dal wrote:NATION NAME: The European Federation
LEADER: President Alexis Potter
SIDE SUPPORTING : Finarune Valley
REASON FOR ENTERING CONFLICT: Gain new ally and eliminate the socialists
ORBAT (IF SENDING TROOPS): 6 Platoons of European SAS special forces
ANY NOTES?: Since these are Special forces, I won't be announcing their arrival publicly. I will send your military high command an encrypted message letting them know they are coming.

Each platoon has 16 members and are lead by 2 officers and 14 noncoms.


Great! Accepted

PostPosted: Sun Jan 21, 2024 11:04 pm
by Stella Nera
Crysuko wrote:
Stella Nera wrote:I'll withdraw the railguns much to my dismay, they seem to futuristic. Instead I'll just send the 500 Elite Front Soldiers of the SN Army, and send them armed with slug rifles (traditional guns) and some kamikaze drones, nerfed to fit MT standards of this realm. 12 Kamikaze drones, all remotely operated, 2020s era in terms of tech.

Everyone is clear on the fact I claim that turf where the lake and Rune river meet, right? I'll invade that region as a diversion against Crysuko.

Taking it is one thing, but holding it?


I need a reason/motivation to get involved. Don't worry Finarune, I promise that I'll make sure that me owning it doesn't harm your economy in any way, since you seemed worried about that.

PostPosted: Mon Jan 22, 2024 2:26 am
by Stella Nera
Okay fine, I won't take that area. I'll accept territory as a buffer between Crysuko and you Finarune then if the ethnicities pose a problem. I really wanted the lake though. Is there any way I can get it? If no then fine, I'll accept the buffer area and an island or two.

PostPosted: Mon Jan 22, 2024 3:47 am
by Crysuko
Stella Nera wrote:Okay fine, I won't take that area. I'll accept territory as a buffer between Crysuko and you Finarune then if the ethnicities pose a problem. I really wanted the lake though. Is there any way I can get it? If no then fine, I'll accept the buffer area and an island or two.

The Mortlake region is the area's breadbasket. Messing with that would probably cause a famine, and we wouldn't cede it for blood nor money.

PostPosted: Mon Jan 22, 2024 10:07 am
by Stella Nera
Crysuko wrote:
Stella Nera wrote:Okay fine, I won't take that area. I'll accept territory as a buffer between Crysuko and you Finarune then if the ethnicities pose a problem. I really wanted the lake though. Is there any way I can get it? If no then fine, I'll accept the buffer area and an island or two.

The Mortlake region is the area's breadbasket. Messing with that would probably cause a famine, and we wouldn't cede it for blood nor money.


Bruh who said anything about a famine? I just wanted to impose tariffs and take advantage of the region's resources, not close it off. Now I really want to take it seeing how important it is.