Continued. Ooc thread.
The Prophet's Song. (Ooc: Parts of this post contributed by Mokastana, Holy Marsh and Gortenia.)
Southport City, The Ice States.
The actions of the Golden Throne were, to put it simply, unacceptable. With various nations already contacted for a diplomatic response to the matter, there could be no delay in the Ice response to the matter. Given the GDRC legislation the nation was planning to propose, the nation would have to prepare militarily, both for any military attack by or on the Golden Throne.
The primary goal of any military action would be to recover those items the Golden Throne had stolen from the Ice States. Another goal would be to stop the Golden Throne from having a border near the Ice States, and thereby have a means to easily violate Ice sovereignty as they have already. However, engaging in such action ab initio would pose an unnecessary danger to the Ice States: the Golden Throne had many allies and was very powerful itself. It could, if it truly desired, take the Ice States as a mere colony. If the Golden Throne tried to escalate the conflict itself, then it would be proportionate and reasonable to directly attack Nicaro to claim it.
A diplomatic response, for now, was the best course of action. Which is why the Icers would have a meeting with the Marshites and Mokans regarding this urgent matter. With those contacted nations already agreeing to engage with the meeting, the Ice delegation promptly escorted the Marshite and Mokan delegations to the diplomatic negotiation room.
As usual for such meetings, Lyda Straub introduced the meeting as Minister of Foreign Affairs. "We have all come here to discuss what are unpleasant circumstances for us all. What was previously a respected and trusted nation in this region has decided to loot our nation after vowing to end an occupation of part of our sovereign territory. They have stolen culturally and economically significant items, including paintings such as "Piepowder's Moss-Weed Court" and "The Lizards of Eden". We have found buildings and museums emptied."
"We have called this mission to discuss a unified response to this matter. If the Golden Throne can get away with this act against the Ice States, what is there to say that they will not do this to the PUF, or even its closest allies such as...Holy Marsh? Nor can we continue trying to appease the Golden Throne, as we did to end the Green Zone occupation. What we propose is a statement signed by all our nations condemning the looting, and demanding the prompt return of all confiscated items. Having regional superpowers such as the PUF or Holy Marsh, including some of their closest allies, will undoubtedly at least cause significant consideration within the highest echelons of the Macabean government. In this meeting, we can draft a statement and, once a consensus statement is reached, sign it as being a multinational statement condemning the looting."
Ashala Illahee took a seat, the old Ambassadress returning again as the new Ambassadress. Despite the change of government, the uphill battle against fate was the same. Plus, she was tired. "It can get away with this for it is strong and does not fear your response. And you are in no position to offer it a true threat. This does not hold for other nations," she said glumly before shaking her head and taking off her glasses, cleaning them, and returning them to use.
"Do not take this bluntness as a lack of sympathy for your cause. We find it beneath the Throne that it would steal your artefacts over base concerns of debt relief, a claim we find as implausible as we do weak. We are more than willing to work with you to conduct a diplomatic program to recover these artefacts, through our dealings with the Throne as well as other means. We are willing to sign a statement calling for the return of these cultural artefacts," she ended positively, ready to sign her name to a statement concerning those matters.
There was however something larger at play. "Economically, our best advice for your position is to succeed. I know the urge to seek immediate relief is strong, but rash actions lead to rash endings. We will not engage against the Throne militarily on the behalf of the Communal Union- we are allies with them, and would be more likely to work with them if you were to attack. If you commit yourselves to becoming the best state you can be, succeeding ideologically and politically at home and abroad, you will find your station improved. The Throne mocks you for being communist, but it deals with many on a level of respect who hold many of the same ideals. Success at home will be your greatest victory."
Straub patiently listened to the Marshite representative speak. She was privy to far more than the Marshite was; although naturally could not disclose much of her knowledge here. Why would she disclose war plans against a nation to the representative of an ally of that nation? Once the Marshite finished her speech, Straub thought what she would say next for a few seconds, before speaking again.
"Rest assured that we will consider your statements regarding how to economically progress from this incident. In any case, it is precisely because of the standing of the Golden Throne that a statement publicising this incident and thereby condemning it to the international community is necessary. We appear to be on the same page in that regard. Regarding a statement itself, we have drafted a first version of a statement, although naturally it is relatively...unpolished as a draft." She pressed a few buttons below the desk before a text appeared on the screen at the centre of the desk.
The text read as follows,
Illahee looked it over. "It is a fine statement. I understand your government's view on it, but the line about capitalistic greed would need to be changed for us to sign it. The ideological underpinnings of governments are near-meaningless, and we'd rather not be mired in the debate of 'communism vs capitalism' once more. We also think it invites those who may otherwise have sympathy for you on moral grounds to stand against you in the name of pointless ideology. No need to make your job harder than it will be."
Meanwhile, Elizabeth Franshaw-Serain listened to the Ice diplomat. As an avid socialist since secondary school, she understood the rage, but also, as a diplomat and student of history, had the wisdom of time.
"Before I was born, Mokastana was but a former colony trying to find its feet. We had many civil wars as different ideologies fought to prove they would be the best for our islands. During those civil wars we had foreign empires come to claim what they could from us… we did not have the ability to fight them off at the best of times, much less during a civil war. One such invader, Kroando, claimed Juventud Island and turned it into an island fortress and training ground. We were forced to recognize their claim, less they continue to bomb us into submission. Everyone who lived there was given two weeks to leave, or be forcibly removed by bayonet."
"For years we were forced to live with this foreign colony on our island, just a hundred kilometers from our shores. We worked hard to build up our military, fought in foreign wars to learn by blood. All with the intention of one day taking back our occupied island. My own Uncle spent his life turning our aging rusted fleet into a modern navy, capable of fighting off fleets three times its size. He died in battle, leading that very Navy in defense of another long forgotten nation."
"I was just five years old when Kroando finally left Juventud. Not by force, but by their own internal struggles back home. They abandoned it without a shot fired. The entire country celebrated as we retook the island, finally planting a Mokan Flag on its soil once again. Today it is the seat of military power for the Federation."
"I tell you this story so you know that my people know your pain of occupation and being looted. We've worked very hard to ensure we would never be put in that position again."
"That said, what is the plan for when they say no? We can join you in asking politely for your cultural artifacts, but what will you ask from us when TGT refuses your request? The PUF has no intention of war with TGT, and economic sanctions are also off the table, as they are one of our largest trade partners. The only other thing we can offer is paying whatever price TGT asks for, unless you have another idea."
The Ice diplomat turned to the Mokan representative and replied. "I believe it is best to cross that bridge until we come to it. For now, a measured diplomatic response is the best course of action. If it fails, any further action or response can be decided and organised. That said, there is no plan to buy the items from the Golden Throne at this time. Doing so would merely reward this capitalistic greed; we seek the items to be returned unconditionally, rather than for a price."
The Ice diplomat then turned to the Marshite. "We understand your concerns. Of course, we do strongly believe that capitalistic greed is the reason for this, although we can remove that line." Pressing another few buttons below the desk, the text changed, with the line "in capitalistic greed" removed. "Does the updated draft address the Marshite concerns?"
Elizabeth Franshaw-Serain listened to her Ice counterpart, and while she admired their optimism, it was borderline foolish. "With all due respect, when you are dealing with the Golden Throne, you need to think three steps ahead. Especially when you are planning on going against what they are asking for. Yes, The Golden Throne is looking to stamp out communism, they despise it. Robbing you and forcing you to buy back your cultural artifacts is "compromise" to them.
You seek the items back unconditionally, you will need to find a way to convince them that giving you the items back is either less painful, or more profitable, than selling them on the open market. I'll be honest, you cannot do either well and threats will likely end in your regime. They have you cornered. They have no reason to give in to a small nation, especially a communist one. It would look bad to them."
The Mokan certainly had a good point, although the plans of the Ice States still could not be disclosed. Straub waited for Franshaw-Serain to finish, before speaking to the representative. "We believe a public statement signed not only by the Ice States, but by multiple other notable powers in the region, will provide a very strong reputational incentive to return the items. If that is not the case, we can plan further action then. We note that we do plan on increasing our military defense near the Nicaroan border should the dictatorship of the bourgeoisie we border decide to engage in aggression against our nation. We may even elect to terminate the agreement to meet a quota of annual purchases, which per our calculations is even greater than the market value of the items removed, so as to provide a financial net disincentive to the Golden Throne for keeping the items. We assure you that take these arguments under consideration, should the time come. But for now we are here to draft a statement, and we want to make sure that such a statement can be issued promptly."
Elizabeth sighed, "We will sign a request to return the cultural artifacts in question, and agree with our Marshite comrades about removing any reference to economic systems. If you want the sympathy of the international community, do not make enemies of neutral capitalist nations. Unofficially, I find your lack of a planning ahead foolish, but the Communal Union is Sovereign, after all." Illahee herself did acknowledge that the draft by and large would pass Marshite approval. "This will be acceptable. We will sign."
An additional signature was received by the government of Gortenia, which had elected not to send diplomats participate in the meeting in-person, yet still sign on to the statement. It was thus issued as follows,
Despite the meeting, a military response was organised. The border with Nicaro, as well as the coast with the Sea of Ice, had a significant amount of military personnel and resources given, with supply chains being reinforced from Wingcaster, Deephedge and other nearby sites to the areas, through the rocky, low-lying terrains of Northwestern Ormont. Thousands of reserves were activated; now there were over 1 million active personnel throughout the Ice States. In Surisjardinar and Hinnaland, reserves were called up to train in case they needed to be activated. A quarter of the entire active military of the Ice States was now deployed around the Ormontian border, ready to stop any attempted attack from the Golden Throne.
If the Golden Throne attempted any military action, the Ice forces were there to stop them in their tracks. Macabean forces would have to get through a marine deployment in the coast of the Sea of Ice, and then a land deployment around the same coast, were they to attempt any invasion. Along the direct border with the Golden Throne, land forces also were stationed around the area. Finally, there were air forces patrolling the entire area, which would be regularly reloaded and refueled from Wingcaster and Deephedge; with automated systems being present to detect need for fuel and weaponry for each aircraft. Any Macabean attempt to invade the Ice States would face fire from both air and the surface. Air patrols were also reinforced throughout the rest of the Ice States, in case invasion was attempted from another part than the Sea of Ice and Nicaroan border.
The Gortenian government had sent a letter to the Ice government, promising monetary support to Ice war efforts,
The monies indeed promptly reached the Ice States, although comparatively speaking, they were a relatively small amount, especially compared to what the war would cost. This was the start of a new period in Ice history; that of the Battle of Glass Tears...
The Prophet's Song. (Ooc: Parts of this post contributed by Mokastana, Holy Marsh and Gortenia.)
Southport City, The Ice States.
The actions of the Golden Throne were, to put it simply, unacceptable. With various nations already contacted for a diplomatic response to the matter, there could be no delay in the Ice response to the matter. Given the GDRC legislation the nation was planning to propose, the nation would have to prepare militarily, both for any military attack by or on the Golden Throne.
The primary goal of any military action would be to recover those items the Golden Throne had stolen from the Ice States. Another goal would be to stop the Golden Throne from having a border near the Ice States, and thereby have a means to easily violate Ice sovereignty as they have already. However, engaging in such action ab initio would pose an unnecessary danger to the Ice States: the Golden Throne had many allies and was very powerful itself. It could, if it truly desired, take the Ice States as a mere colony. If the Golden Throne tried to escalate the conflict itself, then it would be proportionate and reasonable to directly attack Nicaro to claim it.
A diplomatic response, for now, was the best course of action. Which is why the Icers would have a meeting with the Marshites and Mokans regarding this urgent matter. With those contacted nations already agreeing to engage with the meeting, the Ice delegation promptly escorted the Marshite and Mokan delegations to the diplomatic negotiation room.
As usual for such meetings, Lyda Straub introduced the meeting as Minister of Foreign Affairs. "We have all come here to discuss what are unpleasant circumstances for us all. What was previously a respected and trusted nation in this region has decided to loot our nation after vowing to end an occupation of part of our sovereign territory. They have stolen culturally and economically significant items, including paintings such as "Piepowder's Moss-Weed Court" and "The Lizards of Eden". We have found buildings and museums emptied."
"We have called this mission to discuss a unified response to this matter. If the Golden Throne can get away with this act against the Ice States, what is there to say that they will not do this to the PUF, or even its closest allies such as...Holy Marsh? Nor can we continue trying to appease the Golden Throne, as we did to end the Green Zone occupation. What we propose is a statement signed by all our nations condemning the looting, and demanding the prompt return of all confiscated items. Having regional superpowers such as the PUF or Holy Marsh, including some of their closest allies, will undoubtedly at least cause significant consideration within the highest echelons of the Macabean government. In this meeting, we can draft a statement and, once a consensus statement is reached, sign it as being a multinational statement condemning the looting."
Ashala Illahee took a seat, the old Ambassadress returning again as the new Ambassadress. Despite the change of government, the uphill battle against fate was the same. Plus, she was tired. "It can get away with this for it is strong and does not fear your response. And you are in no position to offer it a true threat. This does not hold for other nations," she said glumly before shaking her head and taking off her glasses, cleaning them, and returning them to use.
"Do not take this bluntness as a lack of sympathy for your cause. We find it beneath the Throne that it would steal your artefacts over base concerns of debt relief, a claim we find as implausible as we do weak. We are more than willing to work with you to conduct a diplomatic program to recover these artefacts, through our dealings with the Throne as well as other means. We are willing to sign a statement calling for the return of these cultural artefacts," she ended positively, ready to sign her name to a statement concerning those matters.
There was however something larger at play. "Economically, our best advice for your position is to succeed. I know the urge to seek immediate relief is strong, but rash actions lead to rash endings. We will not engage against the Throne militarily on the behalf of the Communal Union- we are allies with them, and would be more likely to work with them if you were to attack. If you commit yourselves to becoming the best state you can be, succeeding ideologically and politically at home and abroad, you will find your station improved. The Throne mocks you for being communist, but it deals with many on a level of respect who hold many of the same ideals. Success at home will be your greatest victory."
Straub patiently listened to the Marshite representative speak. She was privy to far more than the Marshite was; although naturally could not disclose much of her knowledge here. Why would she disclose war plans against a nation to the representative of an ally of that nation? Once the Marshite finished her speech, Straub thought what she would say next for a few seconds, before speaking again.
"Rest assured that we will consider your statements regarding how to economically progress from this incident. In any case, it is precisely because of the standing of the Golden Throne that a statement publicising this incident and thereby condemning it to the international community is necessary. We appear to be on the same page in that regard. Regarding a statement itself, we have drafted a first version of a statement, although naturally it is relatively...unpolished as a draft." She pressed a few buttons below the desk before a text appeared on the screen at the centre of the desk.
The text read as follows,
Statement On Looting Of Ice Territory By The Golden Throne
To all ladies, gentlemen, foreigners, Icers, and all others around the region, we come to issue a statement regarding recent actions by the Golden Throne within our nation. We wish to emphasise that the actions of the Golden Throne occurred without our knowledge or consent, until we discovered it after it had already concluded. The acts are undoubtedly shocking, especially when done by a nation of such stature within the region.
The ending of the "Green Zone" occupation of Ice territories in Ormont by the Golden Throne is one which should relieve us all; yet, in capitalistic greed, the Golden Throne has elected to conduct its withdrawal in an ultimately bad-faith manner which violates the trust we afforded to it. Specifically, it turns out that Macabean forces had looted the territory they had occupied during their withdrawal from the Green Zone.
This looting took the form of confiscating culturally and economically significant items found within the occupied areas. Cultural artefacts we have lost to this act of capitalistic greed include renowned paintings such as "Piepowder's Moss-Weed Court" and "The Lizards of Eden", literary items such as the original copies of "Larks' Tongues in Aspic", and even one of the oldest known copies of the Holy Book of Klyprer. We have also noted that the Golden Throne effectively bribed businesses under Ice jurisdiction to relocate to the Golden Throne, although given that to our knowledge the businesses themselves decided to relocate this is not as heinous as the looting of Ice territory.
In the strongest possible terms, the nations of The Ice States, Holy Marsh, and the People's Unified Federation, hereby condemn this looting of Ice territories as shocking and a gross violation of trust placed in the Golden Throne by the Ice States. To that end, we demand that all items removed during this looting be unconditionally returned to Ice jurisdiction as promptly as possible.
Signed,
Illahee looked it over. "It is a fine statement. I understand your government's view on it, but the line about capitalistic greed would need to be changed for us to sign it. The ideological underpinnings of governments are near-meaningless, and we'd rather not be mired in the debate of 'communism vs capitalism' once more. We also think it invites those who may otherwise have sympathy for you on moral grounds to stand against you in the name of pointless ideology. No need to make your job harder than it will be."
Meanwhile, Elizabeth Franshaw-Serain listened to the Ice diplomat. As an avid socialist since secondary school, she understood the rage, but also, as a diplomat and student of history, had the wisdom of time.
"Before I was born, Mokastana was but a former colony trying to find its feet. We had many civil wars as different ideologies fought to prove they would be the best for our islands. During those civil wars we had foreign empires come to claim what they could from us… we did not have the ability to fight them off at the best of times, much less during a civil war. One such invader, Kroando, claimed Juventud Island and turned it into an island fortress and training ground. We were forced to recognize their claim, less they continue to bomb us into submission. Everyone who lived there was given two weeks to leave, or be forcibly removed by bayonet."
"For years we were forced to live with this foreign colony on our island, just a hundred kilometers from our shores. We worked hard to build up our military, fought in foreign wars to learn by blood. All with the intention of one day taking back our occupied island. My own Uncle spent his life turning our aging rusted fleet into a modern navy, capable of fighting off fleets three times its size. He died in battle, leading that very Navy in defense of another long forgotten nation."
"I was just five years old when Kroando finally left Juventud. Not by force, but by their own internal struggles back home. They abandoned it without a shot fired. The entire country celebrated as we retook the island, finally planting a Mokan Flag on its soil once again. Today it is the seat of military power for the Federation."
"I tell you this story so you know that my people know your pain of occupation and being looted. We've worked very hard to ensure we would never be put in that position again."
"That said, what is the plan for when they say no? We can join you in asking politely for your cultural artifacts, but what will you ask from us when TGT refuses your request? The PUF has no intention of war with TGT, and economic sanctions are also off the table, as they are one of our largest trade partners. The only other thing we can offer is paying whatever price TGT asks for, unless you have another idea."
The Ice diplomat turned to the Mokan representative and replied. "I believe it is best to cross that bridge until we come to it. For now, a measured diplomatic response is the best course of action. If it fails, any further action or response can be decided and organised. That said, there is no plan to buy the items from the Golden Throne at this time. Doing so would merely reward this capitalistic greed; we seek the items to be returned unconditionally, rather than for a price."
The Ice diplomat then turned to the Marshite. "We understand your concerns. Of course, we do strongly believe that capitalistic greed is the reason for this, although we can remove that line." Pressing another few buttons below the desk, the text changed, with the line "in capitalistic greed" removed. "Does the updated draft address the Marshite concerns?"
Elizabeth Franshaw-Serain listened to her Ice counterpart, and while she admired their optimism, it was borderline foolish. "With all due respect, when you are dealing with the Golden Throne, you need to think three steps ahead. Especially when you are planning on going against what they are asking for. Yes, The Golden Throne is looking to stamp out communism, they despise it. Robbing you and forcing you to buy back your cultural artifacts is "compromise" to them.
You seek the items back unconditionally, you will need to find a way to convince them that giving you the items back is either less painful, or more profitable, than selling them on the open market. I'll be honest, you cannot do either well and threats will likely end in your regime. They have you cornered. They have no reason to give in to a small nation, especially a communist one. It would look bad to them."
The Mokan certainly had a good point, although the plans of the Ice States still could not be disclosed. Straub waited for Franshaw-Serain to finish, before speaking to the representative. "We believe a public statement signed not only by the Ice States, but by multiple other notable powers in the region, will provide a very strong reputational incentive to return the items. If that is not the case, we can plan further action then. We note that we do plan on increasing our military defense near the Nicaroan border should the dictatorship of the bourgeoisie we border decide to engage in aggression against our nation. We may even elect to terminate the agreement to meet a quota of annual purchases, which per our calculations is even greater than the market value of the items removed, so as to provide a financial net disincentive to the Golden Throne for keeping the items. We assure you that take these arguments under consideration, should the time come. But for now we are here to draft a statement, and we want to make sure that such a statement can be issued promptly."
Elizabeth sighed, "We will sign a request to return the cultural artifacts in question, and agree with our Marshite comrades about removing any reference to economic systems. If you want the sympathy of the international community, do not make enemies of neutral capitalist nations. Unofficially, I find your lack of a planning ahead foolish, but the Communal Union is Sovereign, after all." Illahee herself did acknowledge that the draft by and large would pass Marshite approval. "This will be acceptable. We will sign."
An additional signature was received by the government of Gortenia, which had elected not to send diplomats participate in the meeting in-person, yet still sign on to the statement. It was thus issued as follows,
Statement On Looting Of Ice Territory By The Golden Throne
To all ladies, gentlemen, foreigners, Icers, and all others around the region, we come to issue a statement regarding recent actions by the Golden Throne within our nation. We wish to emphasise that the actions of the Golden Throne occurred without our knowledge or consent, until we discovered it after it had already concluded. The acts are undoubtedly shocking, especially when done by a nation of such stature within the region.
The ending of the "Green Zone" occupation of Ice territories in Ormont by the Golden Throne is one which should relieve us all; yet, in greed, the Golden Throne has elected to conduct its withdrawal in an ultimately bad-faith manner which violates the trust we afforded to it. Specifically, it turns out that Macabean forces had looted the territory they had occupied during their withdrawal from the Green Zone.
This looting took the form of confiscating culturally and economically significant items found within the occupied areas. Cultural artefacts we have lost to this act include renowned paintings such as "Piepowder's Moss-Weed Court" and "The Lizards of Eden", literary items such as the original copies of "Larks' Tongues in Aspic", and even one of the oldest known copies of the Holy Book of Klyprer. We have also noted that the Golden Throne effectively bribed businesses under Ice jurisdiction to relocate to the Golden Throne, although given that to our knowledge the businesses themselves decided to relocate this is not as heinous as the looting of Ice territory.
In the strongest possible terms, the nations of The Ice States, Holy Marsh, Gortenia, and the People's Unified Federation, hereby condemn this looting of Ice territories as shocking and a gross violation of trust placed in the Golden Throne by the Ice States. To that end, we demand that all items removed during this looting be unconditionally returned to Ice jurisdiction as promptly as possible.
Signed,
~Courtney Hazelbush,
Elected President,
The Communal Union of the Ice States
~Lyda Straub,
Minister of Foreign Affairs,
The Communal Union of the Ice States
~Ashala Illahee,
Ambassador to the Ice States,
Holy Marsh
~Elizabeth Franshaw-Serain,
Foreign Minister,
The People's United Federation
~Government of Gortenia
Despite the meeting, a military response was organised. The border with Nicaro, as well as the coast with the Sea of Ice, had a significant amount of military personnel and resources given, with supply chains being reinforced from Wingcaster, Deephedge and other nearby sites to the areas, through the rocky, low-lying terrains of Northwestern Ormont. Thousands of reserves were activated; now there were over 1 million active personnel throughout the Ice States. In Surisjardinar and Hinnaland, reserves were called up to train in case they needed to be activated. A quarter of the entire active military of the Ice States was now deployed around the Ormontian border, ready to stop any attempted attack from the Golden Throne.
If the Golden Throne attempted any military action, the Ice forces were there to stop them in their tracks. Macabean forces would have to get through a marine deployment in the coast of the Sea of Ice, and then a land deployment around the same coast, were they to attempt any invasion. Along the direct border with the Golden Throne, land forces also were stationed around the area. Finally, there were air forces patrolling the entire area, which would be regularly reloaded and refueled from Wingcaster and Deephedge; with automated systems being present to detect need for fuel and weaponry for each aircraft. Any Macabean attempt to invade the Ice States would face fire from both air and the surface. Air patrols were also reinforced throughout the rest of the Ice States, in case invasion was attempted from another part than the Sea of Ice and Nicaroan border.
The Gortenian government had sent a letter to the Ice government, promising monetary support to Ice war efforts,
To The Ice States.
Before stating what is being said, this must not seen by any one except that in the most high of the Ice States government.
We have sent 18.3 million Gortgens (which is worth 15 million guinea) to fund any military efforts due to the recent happenings with The Golden Throne.
From, the Gortenian government.
The monies indeed promptly reached the Ice States, although comparatively speaking, they were a relatively small amount, especially compared to what the war would cost. This was the start of a new period in Ice history; that of the Battle of Glass Tears...