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Azmeny
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Postby Azmeny » Sun May 28, 2023 9:47 am

Neibeskiya wrote:
Southeast Marajarbia wrote:“Will there be any judges for the tribunal?”

"I believe there should be 6 Judes, and a Jury with a Collective Vote of 1."

“For the judges, how about we include nations with a wide variety of viewpoints, to ensure a lack of bias
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Postby Tyrantio Land » Sun May 28, 2023 9:47 am

Southeast Marajarbia wrote:“Will there be any judges for the tribunal?”

“I completely support the idea of a tribunal, but I do have a question. Will any criminals be brought before the court, or is it just about the nations of the CSL. Also, I think the most active nations should each send 1 judge.”
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Postby Neibeskiya » Sun May 28, 2023 9:50 am

"The Most Active Members should be Allotted the seats for the Judge. It will ensure efficiency."
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Gabeonia
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Postby Gabeonia » Sun May 28, 2023 9:50 am

Azmeny wrote:“I would like to propose a new idea to the CSL: an official code of conduct, to ensure that CSL members remain respectful to to other nations to avoid undue hostility.

Here is what I will implement:

CSL Code of conduct


    Laws

  • All CSL members and observers are to be respectful in the CSL forums, arguments will not be tolerated, if they are uncivil, hurtful or just tasteless

  • All CSL members and observers shall be respectful to other alliances, even CSL enemies, at least within the forums. Disrespect for other alliances or nations in the forums will not be accepted. In particular, insults in the forum threads of other alliances are not to be taken lightly.

  • CSL members may not engage in war crimes, slavery and mass violations of human rights, as this goes against the ethos of the CSL

  • CSL members must do the alliance proud in public, and show honour.

    Punishment and discipline
  • Any violations of the CSL code of conduct are to be punished in the CSL tribunal (OOC: a thread will soon be created), to ensure that transparency in maintained.

  • CSL members may be punished in the following ways: A suspension from posting in the CSL threads for 1 day, a 3 day suspension, ejection, sanctions or blacklisting.

  • CSL members are to be given notice before being punished

  • Punishments must be agreed to by 5 members to be valid.

  • Punishments are to be proportional to the severity of the offence, and repeat offenders are to be punished more severely.


"Gabeonia agrees. Gabeonia also abstains from voting for judges however supports the idea."
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Postby Southeast Marajarbia » Sun May 28, 2023 9:55 am

Azmeny wrote:
Neibeskiya wrote:"I believe there should be 6 Judes, and a Jury with a Collective Vote of 1."

“For the judges, how about we include nations with a wide variety of viewpoints, to ensure a lack of bias


“Marajarbia agrees, as that is why we nominated Tyrantio and Gabeonia.”
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Postby Azmeny » Sun May 28, 2023 10:00 am

Tyrantio Land wrote:
Southeast Marajarbia wrote:“Will there be any judges for the tribunal?”

“I completely support the idea of a tribunal, but I do have a question. Will any criminals be brought before the court, or is it just about the nations of the CSL. Also, I think the most active nations should each send 1 judge.”

OOC: It is for trying the members of the CSL. However, I do not see why we cannot try, say war criminals or terrorists in here at some point. I will also try to move the CSL blacklist there, when we get the tribunal properly up and running.
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Postby Azmeny » Sun May 28, 2023 10:37 am

I’ve just established the tribunal - the link is in the first post of the thread
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Gabeonia
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Postby Gabeonia » Sun May 28, 2023 10:58 am

Azmeny wrote:I’ve just established the tribunal - the link is in the first post of the thread


OOC: Awesome! A tribunal is a needed thing in an alliance.
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Postby Syrvanian Republic » Sun May 28, 2023 11:25 am

Maksim Semenov: Understand this, a tribunal run by only yesmen, will counteract democratic institutions. Which might I add is what this alliance supposedly upholds. I advise that a tribunal be assembled with international observers, groups of varying view point so it is not run by a one view crowd, nor the ever approaching enemy that is Socialism and Communism. We oppose allowing this to be run by Socialist-Thought judges alone, and I must officially request the judges be picked by both merit and reasonability. A group that holds the same views will only go so far.
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Postby Azmeny » Sun May 28, 2023 11:27 am

Syrvanian Republic wrote:
Maksim Semenov: Understand this, a tribunal run by only yesmen, will counteract democratic institutions. Which might I add is what this alliance supposedly upholds. I advise that a tribunal be assembled with international observers, groups of varying view point so it is not run by a one view crowd, nor the ever approaching enemy that is Socialism and Communism. We oppose allowing this to be run by Socialist-Thought judges alone, and I must officially request the judges be picked by both merit and reasonability. A group that holds the same views will only go so far.

Would you like to be a judge to ensure balance? I would happily add you.
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Postby Southeast Marajarbia » Sun May 28, 2023 11:33 am

Gabeonia wrote:
Azmeny wrote:I’ve just established the tribunal - the link is in the first post of the thread


OOC: Awesome! A tribunal is a needed thing in an alliance.


OOC: I completely agree.
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Postby Islamic Holy Sites » Sun May 28, 2023 11:35 am

“I think we need to rotate who will be judged to ensure fairness.”
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Postby Gabeonia » Sun May 28, 2023 11:39 am

Islamic Holy Sites wrote:“I think we need to rotate who will be judged to ensure fairness.”


"Gabeonia agrees"
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Postby Southeast Marajarbia » Sun May 28, 2023 11:42 am

Islamic Holy Sites wrote:“I think we need to rotate who will be judged to ensure fairness.”


“Marajarbia will support this, as it sets a good example of an alliance justice system.”
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Postby Southeast Marajarbia » Sun May 28, 2023 1:18 pm

“Will anyone else be in favor of the proposed embargo of Jilia?”

OOC: I am a little busy rn, so the thread may be up by tonight or early tomorrow.
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Postby Azmeny » Sun May 28, 2023 1:57 pm

Right, a list of judges (also in the Tribunal)

CSL Tribunal Judges

  • Tyrantio Land

  • Gabeonia

  • Syrvanian Republic

  • Neibeskiya

  • Islamic Holy sites

  • Sum Tash
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Azmeny24: the latest headlines from Azmeny
Azmen ASP rep dead: shootout in headquarters| Azmeny remembers ‘national hero’ Osman Sakharov |Azmeny unveils “world-beating” B-4X main battle tank at arms expo|Azmeny welcomes  military assistance from Boldonia: Azmeny open to cooperation|Azmen and CSL forces liberate Cameroon from Jelorifa|Crisis in Azmenabad: east rinaeran troops infiltrate CSL headquarters, troops mobilised|Azmeny unveils cutting-edge Starfire anti missile defence|Azmen and CSL forces triumphant in Shieldstan: British surrender

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Postby Southeast Marajarbia » Sun May 28, 2023 2:01 pm

Azmeny wrote:Right, a list of judges (also in the Tribunal)

CSL Tribunal Judges

  • Tyrantio Land

  • Gabeonia

  • Syrvanian Republic

  • Neibeskiya

  • Islamic Holy sites

  • Sum Tash


“Marajarbia congratulates all of the new judges assigned to the tribunal, especially since the tribunal itself can set an example which will define the next big geopolitical era of the free world.”
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Postby Sum Tash » Sun May 28, 2023 2:05 pm

Congratulations fellow Judges! I look forward to working with you, however long that may be.
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Postby Gabeonia » Sun May 28, 2023 3:33 pm

Southeast Marajarbia wrote:“Will anyone else be in favor of the proposed embargo of Jilia?”

OOC: I am a little busy rn, so the thread may be up by tonight or early tomorrow.


"Gabeonia supports the proposed embargo."
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Postby Southeast Marajarbia » Sun May 28, 2023 3:45 pm

Gabeonia wrote:
Southeast Marajarbia wrote:“Will anyone else be in favor of the proposed embargo of Jilia?”

OOC: I am a little busy rn, so the thread may be up by tonight or early tomorrow.


"Gabeonia supports the proposed embargo."


“That is great to hear. We have given Jilia the notice that the CSL will begin an embargo, and will only cease it once slavery has been permanently abolished. Does anybody else support this?”
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Postby Sum Tash » Sun May 28, 2023 4:13 pm

What are the grounds for the embargo?
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Postby Southeast Marajarbia » Sun May 28, 2023 4:15 pm

Sum Tash wrote:What are the grounds for the embargo?


“Mainly Jilian involvement in the slave trade.”
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Postby Sum Tash » Sun May 28, 2023 4:19 pm

Oh! Well in that case, Sum Tash fully supports an embargo

However, I believe it would be pertinent to state that you are currently the subject of a Tribunal proceeding
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Postby Southeast Marajarbia » Sun May 28, 2023 4:31 pm

Sum Tash wrote:Oh! Well in that case, Sum Tash fully supports an embargo

However, I believe it would be pertinent to state that you are currently the subject of a Tribunal proceeding


OOC: That’s not even taking place. Didn’t you see what Azmeny said?
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Postby Sum Tash » Sun May 28, 2023 4:34 pm

Alright, then let's proceed with the embargo
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