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A staging-point for declarations of war and other major diplomatic events. [In character]

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Postby New Georgia and the North Pacific » Sun Dec 11, 2022 1:18 pm

Hiram Land wrote:
Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
“What goods does your homeland produce?” Asked an intrigued James Harrison.

"The Hiram Lander people produce various goods, alongside our kangaroos and emus. In fact, I have enough wine from our homeland to provide to this assembly which will now be passed through."

At once, another person from the Hiram Land delegation arrived with bottles of local wine, and begun to pass wine bottles to interested parties.

“I believe, for a little friendly competition, it be up to the delegations to select and rate our alcoholic products. After all, Councillor Dubois has continuously insisted, competition is key.”

His entourage began passing the small glasses and brown glass bottles along. Each bottle had the label “Chateau DuBois, New Lyon Apellation d’Origine Contrôlée
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Postby Bakivaland » Sun Dec 11, 2022 1:18 pm

New Georgia and the North Pacific wrote:
Bakivaland wrote:"I know that you are trying to make us more agreeable, no? Alcohol shouldn't be allowed at important gatherings such as this,"

“Merely trying to break the ice my friend. And also, Councillor Dubois insists we bring cognac from his personal collection to every diplomatic event.”

"Ah, makes perfect sense now."

He pauses.

"Perhaps, we could create a jointly managed council? A sort of council that oversees both alliances operation, but doesn't have much of a say, merely an unbiased third party."
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Postby Laka Strolistandiler » Sun Dec 11, 2022 1:19 pm

Our requests are relatively simple and would come close to an old treaty that was once signed between ourselves and South Olpen- all we are interested in is the prevention of any incursions into our colonial assets. Say, a “non-intervention treaty” of some sorts.
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Postby New Georgia and the North Pacific » Sun Dec 11, 2022 1:20 pm

Laka Strolistandiler wrote:Our requests are relatively simple and would come close to an old treaty that was once signed between ourselves and South Olpen- all we are interested in is the prevention of any incursions into our colonial assets. Say, a “non-intervention treaty” of some sorts.

“Non intervention would ruin the point of both alliances.”
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Postby Hiram Land » Sun Dec 11, 2022 1:21 pm

New Georgia and the North Pacific wrote:
Hiram Land wrote:"The Hiram Lander people produce various goods, alongside our kangaroos and emus. In fact, I have enough wine from our homeland to provide to this assembly which will now be passed through."

At once, another person from the Hiram Land delegation arrived with bottles of local wine, and begun to pass wine bottles to interested parties.

“I believe, for a little friendly competition, it be up to the delegations to select and rate our alcoholic products. After all, Councillor Dubois has continuously insisted, competition is key.”

His entourage began passing the small glasses and brown glass bottles along. Each bottle had the label “Chateau DuBois, New Lyon Apellation d’Origine Contrôlée

"Perhaps."

See here for the wine being provided from our side: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brookland_Valley_Estate
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Postby GermanEmpire of kaisereich » Sun Dec 11, 2022 1:22 pm

"I don't think you heard my question so I'll say it again: What about the conflict of interest?" Says Hindenburg.
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Postby Neo-Western East Korea » Sun Dec 11, 2022 1:23 pm

Bakivaland wrote:"Ah, makes perfect sense now."

He pauses.

"Perhaps, we could create a jointly managed council? A sort of council that oversees both alliances operation, but doesn't have much of a say, merely an unbiased third party."



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The Neo-Korean State must distinctly oppose this measure as a matter of principle.

The self-determination of all those within both groups (and that of the groups itself) is crucial to the continuation of valuable diplomatic talks, and any subversion of that, even if minor, would be severely damaging to that crucial self-determination.

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Postby Southeast Marajarbia » Sun Dec 11, 2022 1:24 pm

Bakivaland wrote:
New Georgia and the North Pacific wrote:“Merely trying to break the ice my friend. And also, Councillor Dubois insists we bring cognac from his personal collection to every diplomatic event.”

"Ah, makes perfect sense now."

He pauses.

"Perhaps, we could create a jointly managed council? A sort of council that oversees both alliances operation, but doesn't have much of a say, merely an unbiased third party."


“That was on Marajarbia’s list of demands regarding cooperation actually. Andreusville even wanted to recommend a few nations from both sides who might be fit for the task, such as the Countesians, Europeans, and Janpians for KTO, and the Bakavish, New Georgians, and Oseanreidensens for ODP.”
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Postby Bakivaland » Sun Dec 11, 2022 1:24 pm

Neo-Western East Korea wrote:
Bakivaland wrote:"Ah, makes perfect sense now."

He pauses.

"Perhaps, we could create a jointly managed council? A sort of council that oversees both alliances operation, but doesn't have much of a say, merely an unbiased third party."



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The Neo-Korean State must distinctly oppose this measure as a matter of principle.

The self-determination of all those within both groups (and that of the groups itself) is crucial to the continuation of valuable diplomatic talks, and any subversion of that, even if minor, would be severely damaging to that crucial self-determination.

"I'll take note of that."
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Postby New Georgia and the North Pacific » Sun Dec 11, 2022 1:24 pm

Hiram Land wrote:
New Georgia and the North Pacific wrote:“I believe, for a little friendly competition, it be up to the delegations to select and rate our alcoholic products. After all, Councillor Dubois has continuously insisted, competition is key.”

His entourage began passing the small glasses and brown glass bottles along. Each bottle had the label “Chateau DuBois, New Lyon Apellation d’Origine Contrôlée

"Perhaps."

See here for the wine being provided from our side: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brookland_Valley_Estate

Our one would be something like this, as it’s the choicest selection made by a professional cook with the budget of the diplomatic corp: https://www.louisxiii-cognac.com/produc ... ee-dun-roi
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Your local up and coming technological menace.

According to viewtopic.php?f=23&t=363018 somewhere around 5-7, because civilian tech is hyper-advanced, military, not so much. About 4.8 if we include project Hercules, which created superhumans.

Population: 35 billion (cuz moon colony cool)

Founder of the ODP, and Foreign Lead.

FT: https://www.nationstates.net/nation=new ... id=1816164

https://www.nationstates.net/nation=new ... id=1816323

F7 is where I use FT Canon


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Postby Bakivaland » Sun Dec 11, 2022 1:26 pm

New Georgia and the North Pacific wrote:
Hiram Land wrote:"Perhaps."

See here for the wine being provided from our side: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brookland_Valley_Estate

Our one would be something like this, as it’s the choicest selection made by a professional cook with the budget of the diplomatic corp: https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=i&url=h ... HQAAAAAQAw

"We're not here to discuss cuisine, we're here to discuss peace!"
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Postby The free city of Kravolec » Sun Dec 11, 2022 1:28 pm

Bakivaland wrote:
New Georgia and the North Pacific wrote:Our one would be something like this, as it’s the choicest selection made by a professional cook with the budget of the diplomatic corp: https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=i&url=h ... HQAAAAAQAw

"We're not here to discuss cuisine, we're here to discuss peace!"

idk man this tastes pretty good

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Postby Hiram Land » Sun Dec 11, 2022 1:28 pm

Bakivaland wrote:
New Georgia and the North Pacific wrote:Our one would be something like this, as it’s the choicest selection made by a professional cook with the budget of the diplomatic corp: https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=i&url=h ... HQAAAAAQAw

"We're not here to discuss cuisine, we're here to discuss peace!"

"You've never heard of ping pong diplomacy, or panda diplomacy, or even medical diplomacy. Keep up."

The representative sighs.

"A third party would indeed be wonderful however it would be best to have only two members of each side and two from an organization we both pick whihc we deem as neutral in order to settle our affairs. A council would be wonderful."
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Postby Neo-Western East Korea » Sun Dec 11, 2022 1:32 pm

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”They do say food is a key to the heart……”

After no one laughs, he awkwardly coughs before continuing.

“Anyways, I propose that, instead of a constantly active and extant council of nations, that we instead simply assemble a severely weakened one when matters of material joint-cooperation is currently occurring to coordinate the transfer of materials in a fashion that allows for the best outcome for whatever group is being assisted.”

Pausing a moment, he continues

“I believe this group’s membership should be determinant upon which nations are actually participating in the ongoing event, or, if that does not function for whatever reason, based on a vote by each group to elect 3 nations to head the council for a time before it is disbanded when the situation is over.”

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Postby Southeast Marajarbia » Sun Dec 11, 2022 1:34 pm

Neo-Western East Korea wrote:


”They do say food is a key to the heart……”

After no one laughs, he awkwardly coughs before continuing.

“Anyways, I propose that, instead of a constantly active and extant council of nations, that we instead simply assemble a severely weakened one when matters of material joint-cooperation is currently occurring to coordinate the transfer of materials in a fashion that allows for the best outcome for whatever group is being assisted.”

Pausing a moment, he continues

“I believe this group’s membership should be determinant upon which nations are actually participating in the ongoing event, or, if that does not function for whatever reason, based on a vote by each group to elect 3 nations to head the council for a time before it is disbanded when the situation is over.”


“It would work, but what would the duties of the council be?”
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Postby Hiram Land » Sun Dec 11, 2022 1:34 pm

Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
Neo-Western East Korea wrote:


”They do say food is a key to the heart……”

After no one laughs, he awkwardly coughs before continuing.

“Anyways, I propose that, instead of a constantly active and extant council of nations, that we instead simply assemble a severely weakened one when matters of material joint-cooperation is currently occurring to coordinate the transfer of materials in a fashion that allows for the best outcome for whatever group is being assisted.”

Pausing a moment, he continues

“I believe this group’s membership should be determinant upon which nations are actually participating in the ongoing event, or, if that does not function for whatever reason, based on a vote by each group to elect 3 nations to head the council for a time before it is disbanded when the situation is over.”


“It would work, but what would the duties of the council be?”

"Prevention of conflict, mostly. Negotiations and the like, to ensure that we need not go to conferences and conferences in different places and achieve nil."
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Postby Bakivaland » Sun Dec 11, 2022 1:36 pm

Hiram Land wrote:
Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
“It would work, but what would the duties of the council be?”

"Prevention of conflict, mostly. Negotiations and the like, to ensure that we need not go to conferences and conferences in different places and achieve nil."

"I was thinking the council would, yes, prevent conflict, but also ensure cooperation and peace between the two alliances."
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Postby New Georgia and the North Pacific » Sun Dec 11, 2022 1:36 pm

“As a demonstration of why we should trade economically,” Rep. Fischer said, whilst having a food replicator wheeled out, “this is one of our most advanced methods of food production. In fact we have replicators for industrial purposes as well. If you would, please choose a recipe, from the menu of 70 choice recipes from Councillor DuBois’ kitchen.”

“On the other hand, I agree on the principle of a council.”
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According to viewtopic.php?f=23&t=363018 somewhere around 5-7, because civilian tech is hyper-advanced, military, not so much. About 4.8 if we include project Hercules, which created superhumans.

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Postby Neo-Western East Korea » Sun Dec 11, 2022 1:36 pm

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”As I believe I said, coordination of material transport in relation to humanitarian efforts and nothing more.

“This can be changed later down the line, but we believe that ensuring that we keep all of its duties in the material realm shall prevent the subversion of national self-determination.”

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Postby CONGOlese republic » Sun Dec 11, 2022 1:37 pm

Hiram Land wrote:
Bakivaland wrote:"We're not here to discuss cuisine, we're here to discuss peace!"

"You've never heard of ping pong diplomacy, or panda diplomacy, or even medical diplomacy. Keep up."

The representative sighs.

"A third party would indeed be wonderful however it would be best to have only two members of each side and two from an organization we both pick whihc we deem as neutral in order to settle our affairs. A council would be wonderful."

I agree with both the Hiramese and the Korean representative. I believe a council should be made consisting of three members from KTO amd ODP and having one country be a mediator and neutral. This council shouldn't always be active and will only play a role during conflict and issues between the two sides. This council should also have an economic branch in charge of overseeing Trade between the two alliances.
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Postby New Georgia and the North Pacific » Sun Dec 11, 2022 1:38 pm

“Pass the plates along, no, don’t be shy, go up and order. May I suggest the roast?”
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Your local up and coming technological menace.

According to viewtopic.php?f=23&t=363018 somewhere around 5-7, because civilian tech is hyper-advanced, military, not so much. About 4.8 if we include project Hercules, which created superhumans.

Population: 35 billion (cuz moon colony cool)

Founder of the ODP, and Foreign Lead.

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Postby GermanEmpire of kaisereich » Sun Dec 11, 2022 1:38 pm

Neo-Western East Korea wrote:


”As I believe I said, coordination of material transport in relation to humanitarian efforts and nothing more.

“This can be changed later down the line, but we believe that ensuring that we keep all of its duties in the material realm shall prevent the subversion of national self-determination.”

"I completely agree with that line" says Hindenburg, a little confused by the mix of discussions in the room.
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Postby Bakivaland » Sun Dec 11, 2022 1:39 pm

CONGOlese republic wrote:
Hiram Land wrote:"You've never heard of ping pong diplomacy, or panda diplomacy, or even medical diplomacy. Keep up."

The representative sighs.

"A third party would indeed be wonderful however it would be best to have only two members of each side and two from an organization we both pick whihc we deem as neutral in order to settle our affairs. A council would be wonderful."

I agree with both the Hiramese and the Korean representative. I believe a council should be made consisting of three members from KTO amd ODP and having one country be a mediator and neutral. This council shouldn't always be active and will only play a role during conflict and issues between the two sides. This council should also have an economic branch in charge of overseeing Trade between the two alliances.

"I must agree as well."
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Postby New Georgia and the North Pacific » Sun Dec 11, 2022 1:39 pm

GermanEmpire of kaisereich wrote:
Neo-Western East Korea wrote:


”As I believe I said, coordination of material transport in relation to humanitarian efforts and nothing more.

“This can be changed later down the line, but we believe that ensuring that we keep all of its duties in the material realm shall prevent the subversion of national self-determination.”

"I completely agree with that line" says Hindenburg, a little confused by the mix of discussions in the room.

“Oh, the German. Try the Wiener schnitzel. Tell me what you think.”
Your local up and coming technological menace.

According to viewtopic.php?f=23&t=363018 somewhere around 5-7, because civilian tech is hyper-advanced, military, not so much. About 4.8 if we include project Hercules, which created superhumans.

Population: 35 billion (cuz moon colony cool)

Founder of the ODP, and Foreign Lead.

FT: https://www.nationstates.net/nation=new ... id=1816164

https://www.nationstates.net/nation=new ... id=1816323

F7 is where I use FT Canon


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Postby GermanEmpire of kaisereich » Sun Dec 11, 2022 1:40 pm

CONGOlese republic wrote:
Hiram Land wrote:"You've never heard of ping pong diplomacy, or panda diplomacy, or even medical diplomacy. Keep up."

The representative sighs.

"A third party would indeed be wonderful however it would be best to have only two members of each side and two from an organization we both pick whihc we deem as neutral in order to settle our affairs. A council would be wonderful."

I agree with both the Hiramese and the Korean representative. I believe a council should be made consisting of three members from KTO amd ODP and having one country be a mediator and neutral. This council shouldn't always be active and will only play a role during conflict and issues between the two sides. This council should also have an economic branch in charge of overseeing Trade between the two alliances.

"I vote for it, if everyone agrees."
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