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London Peace Conference PHASE 1 (KTO-ODP, ARCHIVED)

A staging-point for declarations of war and other major diplomatic events. [In character]

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“For now, your homeland’s inability to not see Marajarbia as anything other than a significant threat makes you the sole representative to see things that way, so yes.”

"All of KTO sees this, not just him." Says Hindenburg "You are invaders, disguised as international aid."

"I mean, invasion should be tolerated if it is justified."
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Postby Hiram Land » Sun Dec 11, 2022 1:05 pm

Bakivaland wrote:
GermanEmpire of kaisereich wrote:"All of KTO sees this, not just him." Says Hindenburg "You are invaders, disguised as international aid."

"I mean, invasion should be tolerated if it is justified."

"In that logic we should invade your country and the entire of the ODP because of the justification that they have caused international crimes. That is justification for us and not for your side. Do you see the problem now?" says Willens.
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Postby Southeast Marajarbia » Sun Dec 11, 2022 1:06 pm

Bakivaland wrote:
GermanEmpire of kaisereich wrote:"All of KTO sees this, not just him." Says Hindenburg "You are invaders, disguised as international aid."

"I mean, invasion should be tolerated if it is justified."


“Most justification is usually plentiful. You never know which nation is on your doorstep threatening nuclear warfare, after all, and nations require defense by any means necessary.”
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Postby Staatza » Sun Dec 11, 2022 1:06 pm

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Postby Bakivaland » Sun Dec 11, 2022 1:06 pm

Hiram Land wrote:
Bakivaland wrote:"I mean, invasion should be tolerated if it is justified."

"In that logic we should invade your country and the entire of the ODP because of the justification that they have caused international crimes. That is justification for us and not for your side. Do you see the problem now?" says Willens.

"Honestly no, and also, under that logic, we should invade the entire KTO due to the crimes they've commited!"
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Postby Bakivaland » Sun Dec 11, 2022 1:07 pm

Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
Bakivaland wrote:"I mean, invasion should be tolerated if it is justified."


“Most justification is usually plentiful. You never know which nation is on your doorstep threatening nuclear warfare, after all, and nations require defense by any means necessary.”

"Remember, just because you have justification doesn't mean you should go to war. I'm just saying, justification in an invasion should make the invasion much more tolerated than an unjustified one."
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Postby Hiram Land » Sun Dec 11, 2022 1:08 pm

Bakivaland wrote:
Hiram Land wrote:"In that logic we should invade your country and the entire of the ODP because of the justification that they have caused international crimes. That is justification for us and not for your side. Do you see the problem now?" says Willens.

"Honestly no, and also, under that logic, we should invade the entire KTO due to the crimes they've commited!"

"And yet you are unable to see the problem. Anyone can justify anything, even if the justification is false or wrong or anything of that sort. If I were to blow your brains out it would be murder, and vice versa. Nobody wants murder and nobody wants war or invasion. Do you understand now?"
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Postby New Georgia and the North Pacific » Sun Dec 11, 2022 1:08 pm

“May I drag you all back to reality. Let’s not try killing each other right now, besides, we have “mining satellites”. May I interest you in a cognac?”
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Postby Southeast Marajarbia » Sun Dec 11, 2022 1:08 pm

Bakivaland wrote:
Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
“Most justification is usually plentiful. You never know which nation is on your doorstep threatening nuclear warfare, after all, and nations require defense by any means necessary.”

"Remember, just because you have justification doesn't mean you should go to war. I'm just saying, justification in an invasion should make the invasion much more tolerated than an unjustified one."


“Which Marajarbia understands and agrees with.”
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Postby Neo-Western East Korea » Sun Dec 11, 2022 1:08 pm

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“While the Neo-Korean State is not hypothetically opposed to cooperation with the ODP in some form, we believe that any such cooperation should be entirely humanitarian or diplomatic in nature, and dependent upon the consent of a majority of members in both groups before they may be carried out.”

He pauses a moment before continuing.

“I would not be opposed to some future attempt at economic collaboration (although I believe it should be kept out of the current discussion) either (although once again that should be determined by a majority of members of both groups) but I believe military cooperation should be entirely discounted as of the current moment.”

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Postby Bakivaland » Sun Dec 11, 2022 1:09 pm

New Georgia and the North Pacific wrote:“May I drag you all back to reality. Let’s not try killing each other right now, besides, we have “mining satellites”. May I interest you in a cognac?”

"No you may not. I'm not much of a drinker, and I don't wish to be poisoned."

Hiram Land wrote:
Bakivaland wrote:"Honestly no, and also, under that logic, we should invade the entire KTO due to the crimes they've commited!"

"And yet you are unable to see the problem. Anyone can justify anything, even if the justification is false or wrong or anything of that sort. If I were to blow your brains out it would be murder, and vice versa. Nobody wants murder and nobody wants war or invasion. Do you understand now?"

"Ok, ok, I understand!"
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Postby GermanEmpire of kaisereich » Sun Dec 11, 2022 1:09 pm

Bakivaland wrote:
Hiram Land wrote:"In that logic we should invade your country and the entire of the ODP because of the justification that they have caused international crimes. That is justification for us and not for your side. Do you see the problem now?" says Willens.

"Honestly no, and also, under that logic, we should invade the entire KTO due to the crimes they've commited!"

"If you want to do this try your luck if you want to'' says Hindenburg defiantly.
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Postby Bakivaland » Sun Dec 11, 2022 1:10 pm

Neo-Western East Korea wrote:


“While the Neo-Korean State is not hypothetically opposed to cooperation with the ODP in some form, we believe that any such cooperation should be entirely humanitarian or diplomatic in nature, and dependent upon the consent of a majority of members in both groups before they may be carried out.”

He pauses a moment before continuing.

“I would not be opposed to some future attempt at economic collaboration (although I believe it should be kept out of the current discussion) either (although once again that should be determined by a majority of members of both groups) but I believe military cooperation should be entirely discounted as of the current moment.”

"I must agree, any collaboration should remain economic, political, and humanitarian in nature. Military affairs should be handled by the alliance themselves, never jointly between the two,"
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Postby Bakivaland » Sun Dec 11, 2022 1:11 pm

GermanEmpire of kaisereich wrote:
Bakivaland wrote:"Honestly no, and also, under that logic, we should invade the entire KTO due to the crimes they've commited!"

"If you want to do this try your luck if you want to'' says Hindenburg defiantly.

"I'm just tossing it out there to prove a point, let's be civil."
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Postby Hiram Land » Sun Dec 11, 2022 1:11 pm

New Georgia and the North Pacific wrote:“May I drag you all back to reality. Let’s not try killing each other right now, besides, we have “mining satellites”. May I interest you in a cognac?”

"I will not drink what may be poison. As for the co-operation if we were to do so militarily other countries may try to kill us both, in addition to the major squabbles we've had beforehand. Economically, however, we can do."
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Postby Southeast Marajarbia » Sun Dec 11, 2022 1:11 pm

Neo-Western East Korea wrote:


“While the Neo-Korean State is not hypothetically opposed to cooperation with the ODP in some form, we believe that any such cooperation should be entirely humanitarian or diplomatic in nature, and dependent upon the consent of a majority of members in both groups before they may be carried out.”

He pauses a moment before continuing.

“I would not be opposed to some future attempt at economic collaboration (although I believe it should be kept out of the current discussion) either (although once again that should be determined by a majority of members of both groups) but I believe military cooperation should be entirely discounted as of the current moment.”


“Understandable. Let’s start small by saying that the first step is a little diplomacy. As in, both sides cooperate by first securing peace, and then proceeding with economics, and then going all the way towards military matters and whatnot. How does that sound?”
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Postby New Georgia and the North Pacific » Sun Dec 11, 2022 1:11 pm

Neo-Western East Korea wrote:


“While the Neo-Korean State is not hypothetically opposed to cooperation with the ODP in some form, we believe that any such cooperation should be entirely humanitarian or diplomatic in nature, and dependent upon the consent of a majority of members in both groups before they may be carried out.”

He pauses a moment before continuing.

“I would not be opposed to some future attempt at economic collaboration (although I believe it should be kept out of the current discussion) either (although once again that should be determined by a majority of members of both groups) but I believe military cooperation should be entirely discounted as of the current moment.”

“I would like to agree with my socialist brethren. Economically and diplomatically we can, and should work together. I agree military cooperation should be discounted, which is why we must have a NAP. Cognac?”

He took a sip to prove it was not poisoned.
Your local up and coming technological menace.

According to viewtopic.php?f=23&t=363018 somewhere around 5-7, because civilian tech is hyper-advanced, military, not so much. About 4.8 if we include project Hercules, which created superhumans.

Population: 35 billion (cuz moon colony cool)

Founder of the ODP, and Foreign Lead.

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https://www.nationstates.net/nation=new ... id=1816323

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Postby GermanEmpire of kaisereich » Sun Dec 11, 2022 1:13 pm

Bakivaland wrote:
Neo-Western East Korea wrote:


“While the Neo-Korean State is not hypothetically opposed to cooperation with the ODP in some form, we believe that any such cooperation should be entirely humanitarian or diplomatic in nature, and dependent upon the consent of a majority of members in both groups before they may be carried out.”

He pauses a moment before continuing.

“I would not be opposed to some future attempt at economic collaboration (although I believe it should be kept out of the current discussion) either (although once again that should be determined by a majority of members of both groups) but I believe military cooperation should be entirely discounted as of the current moment.”

"I must agree, any collaboration should remain economic, political, and humanitarian in nature. Military affairs should be handled by the alliance themselves, never jointly between the two,"

"But what about the conflict of interest on both sides?" Says Hindenburg.
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Postby Southeast Marajarbia » Sun Dec 11, 2022 1:13 pm

Hiram Land wrote:
New Georgia and the North Pacific wrote:“May I drag you all back to reality. Let’s not try killing each other right now, besides, we have “mining satellites”. May I interest you in a cognac?”

"I will not drink what may be poison. As for the co-operation if we were to do so militarily other countries may try to kill us both, in addition to the major squabbles we've had beforehand. Economically, however, we can do."


“What goods does your homeland produce?” Asked an intrigued James Harrison.
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Postby Neo-Western East Korea » Sun Dec 11, 2022 1:14 pm

Southeast Marajarbia wrote:“Understandable. Let’s start small by saying that the first step is a little diplomacy. As in, both sides cooperate by first securing peace, and then proceeding with economics, and then going all the way towards military matters and whatnot. How does that sound?”


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This concept is acceptable as of the current moment, and may be a decent subject for the first conference in 10 year’s time to cover, although we remain fundamentally opposed to military collaboration at any time as of this time.

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Postby Bakivaland » Sun Dec 11, 2022 1:14 pm

New Georgia and the North Pacific wrote:
Neo-Western East Korea wrote:


“While the Neo-Korean State is not hypothetically opposed to cooperation with the ODP in some form, we believe that any such cooperation should be entirely humanitarian or diplomatic in nature, and dependent upon the consent of a majority of members in both groups before they may be carried out.”

He pauses a moment before continuing.

“I would not be opposed to some future attempt at economic collaboration (although I believe it should be kept out of the current discussion) either (although once again that should be determined by a majority of members of both groups) but I believe military cooperation should be entirely discounted as of the current moment.”

“I would like to agree with my socialist brethren. Economically and diplomatically we can, and should work together. I agree military cooperation should be discounted, which is why we must have a NAP. Cognac?”

He took a sip to prove it was not poisoned.

"I know that you are trying to make us more agreeable, no? Alcohol shouldn't be allowed at important gatherings such as this,"
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Postby Southeast Marajarbia » Sun Dec 11, 2022 1:15 pm

Neo-Western East Korea wrote:
Southeast Marajarbia wrote:“Understandable. Let’s start small by saying that the first step is a little diplomacy. As in, both sides cooperate by first securing peace, and then proceeding with economics, and then going all the way towards military matters and whatnot. How does that sound?”


Image


This concept is acceptable as of the current moment, and may be a decent subject for the first conference in 10 year’s time to cover, although we remain fundamentally opposed to military collaboration at any time as of this time.


“Understood.”
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Postby New Georgia and the North Pacific » Sun Dec 11, 2022 1:15 pm

Bakivaland wrote:
New Georgia and the North Pacific wrote:“I would like to agree with my socialist brethren. Economically and diplomatically we can, and should work together. I agree military cooperation should be discounted, which is why we must have a NAP. Cognac?”

He took a sip to prove it was not poisoned.

"I know that you are trying to make us more agreeable, no? Alcohol shouldn't be allowed at important gatherings such as this,"

“Merely trying to break the ice my friend. And also, Councillor Dubois insists we bring cognac from his personal collection to every diplomatic event.”
Your local up and coming technological menace.

According to viewtopic.php?f=23&t=363018 somewhere around 5-7, because civilian tech is hyper-advanced, military, not so much. About 4.8 if we include project Hercules, which created superhumans.

Population: 35 billion (cuz moon colony cool)

Founder of the ODP, and Foreign Lead.

FT: https://www.nationstates.net/nation=new ... id=1816164

https://www.nationstates.net/nation=new ... id=1816323

F7 is where I use FT Canon


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Postby Hiram Land » Sun Dec 11, 2022 1:16 pm

Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
Hiram Land wrote:"I will not drink what may be poison. As for the co-operation if we were to do so militarily other countries may try to kill us both, in addition to the major squabbles we've had beforehand. Economically, however, we can do."


“What goods does your homeland produce?” Asked an intrigued James Harrison.

"The Hiram Lander people produce various goods, alongside our kangaroos and emus. In fact, I have enough wine from our homeland to provide to this assembly which will now be passed through."

At once, another person from the Hiram Land delegation arrived with bottles of local wine, and begun to pass wine bottles to interested parties.
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Postby Southeast Marajarbia » Sun Dec 11, 2022 1:17 pm

Hiram Land wrote:
Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
“What goods does your homeland produce?” Asked an intrigued James Harrison.

"The Hiram Lander people produce various goods, alongside our kangaroos and emus. In fact, I have enough wine from our homeland to provide to this assembly which will now be passed through."

At once, another person from the Hiram Land delegation arrived with bottles of local wine, and begun to pass wine bottles to interested parties.


Interesting
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