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London Peace Conference PHASE 1 (KTO-ODP, ARCHIVED)

A staging-point for declarations of war and other major diplomatic events. [In character]

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Postby New Georgia and the North Pacific » Sun Dec 11, 2022 12:38 pm

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Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
“For now, your homeland’s inability to not see Marajarbia as anything other than a significant threat makes you the sole representative to see things that way, so yes.”

"All of KTO sees this, not just him." Says Hindenburg "You are invaders, disguised as international aid."

“We are not. You on the other hand are just invaders, without even a hideous veil on.”
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Postby Countesia » Sun Dec 11, 2022 12:39 pm

Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
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As Joseph strode into the conference room, he could see discussions were already underway. He quickly glanced around for his seat and spotted the placard with "Countesia" written on it. He greeted his fellow KTO representatives with a nod and smile as he made his way towards them and took his seat. He listened for a while to get up to speed with the proceedings before chiming in with his own take

"Am i the only one among us that sees the Marajarbian proposal for a N.A.P as little more than a golden ticket for them to continue invading countries under the guise of humanitarian aid?" He said, making sure he gave a side glance to the Marajarbian representative for embellishment.


“For now, your homeland’s inability to not see Marajarbia as anything other than a significant threat makes you the sole representative to see things that way, so yes.”


"If that's the case, then i am the only sane person in this room." He spoke back to the Marajarbian "I implore my fellow KTO colleagues to take such a proposal with a very big grain of salt."

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Postby Southeast Marajarbia » Sun Dec 11, 2022 12:39 pm

GermanEmpire of kaisereich wrote:
Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
“For now, your homeland’s inability to not see Marajarbia as anything other than a significant threat makes you the sole representative to see things that way, so yes.”

"All of KTO sees this, not just him." Says Hindenburg "You are invaders, disguised as international aid."


“Oh? Then why have a presence here at peace negotiations?”
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Postby Neo-Western East Korea » Sun Dec 11, 2022 12:39 pm

Southeast Marajarbia wrote:“It sounds good, but Andreusville thinks that the idea of a permanent NAP, either with the punishments that the original proposal stated or with one’s decided by the alliances would work well. The main goal here is to acquire either a permanent peace, or a long term one, after all.”


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“While we are obviously not opposed to a permanent peace (the process of working towards that, of course, being the entire reason we are present) the Neo-Korean State….”

He trails off for a moment, looking for the proper way to place his words, before finally continuing.

“Ahem, the Neo-Korean State does not believe that the immediate and permanent imposition of a comprehensive non-aggression pact will be accepted to any extent in a manner that allows for future, more valuable sentiments of peace to truly come into extance.”

“It is, to some extent, rather likely to be taken as “Peace at (Metaphorical) Gunpoint” by those factions within certain nations fundamentally opposed to such an idea.”

“This is why we propose the 10-year period, as a way to continue the process of peace in a manner more fitting the hoped implementation of “Willing Peace”, or, if necessary, allowing for the democratic overturning of what may become more of a constraint than a valuable way for peace to continue onwards.”

“We will also stand by our decision to hand punishment to the alliances involved as a means to similarly increase the ability of the alliances to determine their own fates, so to say.”

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Postby Southeast Marajarbia » Sun Dec 11, 2022 12:41 pm

Neo-Western East Korea wrote:
Southeast Marajarbia wrote:“It sounds good, but Andreusville thinks that the idea of a permanent NAP, either with the punishments that the original proposal stated or with one’s decided by the alliances would work well. The main goal here is to acquire either a permanent peace, or a long term one, after all.”


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“While we are obviously not opposed to a permanent peace (the process of working towards that, of course, being the entire reason we are present) the Neo-Korean State….”

He trails off for a moment, looking for the proper way to place his words, before finally continuing.

“Ahem, the Neo-Korean State does not believe that the immediate and permanent imposition of a comprehensive non-aggression pact will be accepted to any extent in a manner that allows for future, more valuable sentiments of peace to truly come into extance.”

“It is, to some extent, rather likely to be taken as “Peace at (Metaphorical) Gunpoint” by those factions within certain nations fundamentally opposed to such an idea.”

“This is why we propose the 10-year period, as a way to continue the process of peace in a manner more fitting the hoped implementation of “Willing Peace”, or, if necessary, allowing for the democratic overturning of what may become more of a constraint than a valuable way for peace to continue onwards.”

“We will also stand by our decision to hand punishment to the alliances involved as a means to similarly increase the ability of the alliances to determine their own fates, so to say.”


“Sounds reasonable enough, but would the alliances have to be limited in terms of which punishments can be dealt, or would all punishments be an option?”
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Postby GreatOceania » Sun Dec 11, 2022 12:42 pm

Adjusting his armband that had logo of a somewhat controversial group within Oceania Donovan replied to Marjarbian answer to the countesian question

"So basically you admit that if this poorly thought out NAP gets passed you'll continue invading countries under the excuse of being "Humanitarian" and then taking it over from there I don't think any of us should support this I would rather support the 10 year proposal by the Koreans"
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Postby GermanEmpire of kaisereich » Sun Dec 11, 2022 12:42 pm

New Georgia and the North Pacific wrote:
GermanEmpire of kaisereich wrote:"All of KTO sees this, not just him." Says Hindenburg "You are invaders, disguised as international aid."

“We are not. You on the other hand are just invaders, without even a hideous veil on.”

"Our alliance is created for peace, but remember, it was you who threatened me and another KTO ally of mine to start a war, the real threat, is right in front of me" Hindenburg says pointing to the neo-Georgian diplomat.
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Postby Countesia » Sun Dec 11, 2022 12:43 pm

Neo-Western East Korea wrote:
Southeast Marajarbia wrote:“It sounds good, but Andreusville thinks that the idea of a permanent NAP, either with the punishments that the original proposal stated or with one’s decided by the alliances would work well. The main goal here is to acquire either a permanent peace, or a long term one, after all.”


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“While we are obviously not opposed to a permanent peace (the process of working towards that, of course, being the entire reason we are present) the Neo-Korean State….”

He trails off for a moment, looking for the proper way to place his words, before finally continuing.

“Ahem, the Neo-Korean State does not believe that the immediate and permanent imposition of a comprehensive non-aggression pact will be accepted to any extent in a manner that allows for future, more valuable sentiments of peace to truly come into extance.”

“It is, to some extent, rather likely to be taken as “Peace at (Metaphorical) Gunpoint” by those factions within certain nations fundamentally opposed to such an idea.”

“This is why we propose the 10-year period, as a way to continue the process of peace in a manner more fitting the hoped implementation of “Willing Peace”, or, if necessary, allowing for the democratic overturning of what may become more of a constraint than a valuable way for peace to continue onwards.”

“We will also stand by our decision to hand punishment to the alliances involved as a means to similarly increase the ability of the alliances to determine their own fates, so to say.”


"I am in full agreement with you. Whilst Countesia is willing to make a an official and everlasting commitment to improve relations with the ODP, we would be very reluctant to accept an N.A.P outright." Joseph said "It would be giving the more imperialistic elements of the nations gathered here today a legal shield against retaliation. From both alliances."

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Postby Neo-Western East Korea » Sun Dec 11, 2022 12:44 pm

Southeast Marajarbia wrote:“Sounds reasonable enough, but would the alliances have to be limited in terms of which punishments can be dealt, or would all punishments be an option?”


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”We believe that it would be generally fairer if each alliance were allowed to pick their punishments to whatever extent they desired, although we are not opposed to implementing some form of minimum-maximum punishment if that is deemed necessary.”

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Postby Southeast Marajarbia » Sun Dec 11, 2022 12:45 pm

Countesia wrote:
Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
“For now, your homeland’s inability to not see Marajarbia as anything other than a significant threat makes you the sole representative to see things that way, so yes.”


"If that's the case, then i am the only sane person in this room." He spoke back to the Marajarbian "I implore my fellow KTO colleagues to take such a proposal with a very big grain of salt."


“Peace is by far a wise decision, though. If your homeland refuses peace, then what’s the reason here? Is it to humiliate your homeland, by any chance? A diplomat saying these kinds of things here and now is controversial at best.”
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Postby New Georgia and the North Pacific » Sun Dec 11, 2022 12:45 pm

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New Georgia and the North Pacific wrote:“We are not. You on the other hand are just invaders, without even a hideous veil on.”

"Our alliance is created for peace, but remember, it was you who threatened me and another KTO ally of mine to start a war, the real threat, is right in front of me" Hindenburg says pointing to the neo-Georgian diplomat.

“These were the words of a lowly diplomat. It is your fault for being gullible enough to believe a low ranking diplomat could initiate a nuclear war.”
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Postby GermanEmpire of kaisereich » Sun Dec 11, 2022 12:46 pm

Countesia wrote:
Neo-Western East Korea wrote:


“While we are obviously not opposed to a permanent peace (the process of working towards that, of course, being the entire reason we are present) the Neo-Korean State….”
"I completely agree " says Hindenburg.
He trails off for a moment, looking for the proper way to place his words, before finally continuing.

“Ahem, the Neo-Korean State does not believe that the immediate and permanent imposition of a comprehensive non-aggression pact will be accepted to any extent in a manner that allows for future, more valuable sentiments of peace to truly come into extance.”

“It is, to some extent, rather likely to be taken as “Peace at (Metaphorical) Gunpoint” by those factions within certain nations fundamentally opposed to such an idea.”

“This is why we propose the 10-year period, as a way to continue the process of peace in a manner more fitting the hoped implementation of “Willing Peace”, or, if necessary, allowing for the democratic overturning of what may become more of a constraint than a valuable way for peace to continue onwards.”

“We will also stand by our decision to hand punishment to the alliances involved as a means to similarly increase the ability of the alliances to determine their own fates, so to say.”


"I am in full agreement with you. Whilst Countesia is willing to make a an official and everlasting commitment to improve relations with the ODP, we would be very reluctant to accept an N.A.P outright." Joseph said "It would be giving the more imperialistic elements of the nations gathered here today a legal shield against retaliation. From both alliances."

"I completely agree " says Hindenburg.
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Postby Southeast Marajarbia » Sun Dec 11, 2022 12:46 pm

Neo-Western East Korea wrote:
Southeast Marajarbia wrote:“Sounds reasonable enough, but would the alliances have to be limited in terms of which punishments can be dealt, or would all punishments be an option?”


Image


”We believe that it would be generally fairer if each alliance were allowed to pick their punishments to whatever extent they desired, although we are not opposed to implementing some form of minimum-maximum punishment if that is deemed necessary.”


“Makes sense. So, no permanent NAP in that case, but we have at least another peace talk in the future? It sounds like something which Marajarbia can agree to, provided that some of the neutral mediators here are present and whatnot.”
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Postby New Georgia and the North Pacific » Sun Dec 11, 2022 12:47 pm

Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
Neo-Western East Korea wrote:
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”We believe that it would be generally fairer if each alliance were allowed to pick their punishments to whatever extent they desired, although we are not opposed to implementing some form of minimum-maximum punishment if that is deemed necessary.”


“Makes sense. So, no permanent NAP in that case, but we have at least another peace talk in the future? It sounds like something which Marajarbia can agree to, provided that some of the neutral mediators here are present and whatnot.”

“I concur with my Marajarbian friend.”
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Postby Countesia » Sun Dec 11, 2022 12:49 pm

Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
Countesia wrote:
"If that's the case, then i am the only sane person in this room." He spoke back to the Marajarbian "I implore my fellow KTO colleagues to take such a proposal with a very big grain of salt."


“Peace is by far a wise decision, though. If your homeland refuses peace, then what’s the reason here? Is it to humiliate your homeland, by any chance? A diplomat saying these kinds of things here and now is controversial at best.”


"We don't refuse peace. We are refusing to entertain the idea of an N.A.P." Joseph replied, smirking as he began to speak again. "Would it be any less controversial if it were coming from a member of the Countesian cabinet?"
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Postby Southeast Marajarbia » Sun Dec 11, 2022 12:50 pm

Countesia wrote:
Neo-Western East Korea wrote:


“While we are obviously not opposed to a permanent peace (the process of working towards that, of course, being the entire reason we are present) the Neo-Korean State….”

He trails off for a moment, looking for the proper way to place his words, before finally continuing.

“Ahem, the Neo-Korean State does not believe that the immediate and permanent imposition of a comprehensive non-aggression pact will be accepted to any extent in a manner that allows for future, more valuable sentiments of peace to truly come into extance.”

“It is, to some extent, rather likely to be taken as “Peace at (Metaphorical) Gunpoint” by those factions within certain nations fundamentally opposed to such an idea.”

“This is why we propose the 10-year period, as a way to continue the process of peace in a manner more fitting the hoped implementation of “Willing Peace”, or, if necessary, allowing for the democratic overturning of what may become more of a constraint than a valuable way for peace to continue onwards.”

“We will also stand by our decision to hand punishment to the alliances involved as a means to similarly increase the ability of the alliances to determine their own fates, so to say.”


"I am in full agreement with you. Whilst Countesia is willing to make a an official and everlasting commitment to improve relations with the ODP, we would be very reluctant to accept an N.A.P outright." Joseph said "It would be giving the more imperialistic elements of the nations gathered here today a legal shield against retaliation. From both alliances."


“Do tell, what’s wrong with preventing any efforts of retaliation? Hostilities in general are very tense and problematic for the times, so it would be good to know.”
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Postby GermanEmpire of kaisereich » Sun Dec 11, 2022 12:52 pm

New Georgia and the North Pacific wrote:
GermanEmpire of kaisereich wrote:"Our alliance is created for peace, but remember, it was you who threatened me and another KTO ally of mine to start a war, the real threat, is right in front of me" Hindenburg says pointing to the neo-Georgian diplomat.

“These were the words of a lowly diplomat. It is your fault for being gullible enough to believe a low ranking diplomat could initiate a nuclear war.”

"Do you think Bismarck can be easily fooled, do you think I look like a Clown? Bismarck saw it in that diplomat's eyes, he said you could see the madness in those evil eyes, Bismarck is one of the best ministers we've had in Our History, he lived in rooms of peace negotiations, his father trained him to be a great diplomat, and when he says it was a real threat, it's a real threat" says Hindenburg, picking up Bismarck's worksheet.
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Postby Neo-Western East Korea » Sun Dec 11, 2022 12:52 pm

Southeast Marajarbia wrote:“Makes sense. So, no permanent NAP in that case, but we have at least another peace talk in the future? It sounds like something which Marajarbia can agree to, provided that some of the neutral mediators here are present and whatnot.”


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“There is no opposition from the Neo-Korean State to the future meeting possessing the same neutral mediators as this one, as long as those meditators remain suitable for the purpose.”

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Postby Southeast Marajarbia » Sun Dec 11, 2022 12:53 pm

Countesia wrote:
Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
“Peace is by far a wise decision, though. If your homeland refuses peace, then what’s the reason here? Is it to humiliate your homeland, by any chance? A diplomat saying these kinds of things here and now is controversial at best.”


"We don't refuse peace. We are refusing to entertain the idea of an N.A.P." Joseph replied, smirking as he began to speak again. "Would it be any less controversial if it were coming from a member of the Countesian cabinet?"


“I doubt much controversy would really come considering the main purpose of these talks. Marajarbia will support the Neo-Korean proposal, as well.”
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Postby GermanEmpire of kaisereich » Sun Dec 11, 2022 12:54 pm

Neo-Western East Korea wrote:
Southeast Marajarbia wrote:“Makes sense. So, no permanent NAP in that case, but we have at least another peace talk in the future? It sounds like something which Marajarbia can agree to, provided that some of the neutral mediators here are present and whatnot.”


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“There is no opposition from the Neo-Korean State to the future meeting possessing the same neutral mediators as this one, as long as those meditators remain suitable for the purpose.”

"I completely agree" says Hindenburg.
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Postby Countesia » Sun Dec 11, 2022 12:56 pm

Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
Countesia wrote:
"I am in full agreement with you. Whilst Countesia is willing to make a an official and everlasting commitment to improve relations with the ODP, we would be very reluctant to accept an N.A.P outright." Joseph said "It would be giving the more imperialistic elements of the nations gathered here today a legal shield against retaliation. From both alliances."


“Do tell, what’s wrong with preventing any efforts of retaliation? Hostilities in general are very tense and problematic for the times, so it would be good to know.”


"I can tell you exactly why. What's to stop you from orchestrating another Galapagos?"


Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
Countesia wrote:
"We don't refuse peace. We are refusing to entertain the idea of an N.A.P." Joseph replied, smirking as he began to speak again. "Would it be any less controversial if it were coming from a member of the Countesian cabinet?"


“I doubt much controversy would really come considering the main purpose of these talks. Marajarbia will support the Neo-Korean proposal, as well.”


"At least we agree on something, I suppose."

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Postby Hiram Land » Sun Dec 11, 2022 12:57 pm

The representative from Hiram Land, Jan Willens, approaches the meeting table. With them comes a small piece of paper and the KTO Charter on a booklet the size of a Bible. They look around again before sitting at their seat and, after looking at the demands so far, began to speak:

"If the imperialist power of Marajarbia attempts to provide a pact where, so far as the KTO cannot save smaller countries from the dark cloud of the purple-green banner of the ODP, then why sign this piece of parchment?"

They sigh before looking around again.
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Postby Southeast Marajarbia » Sun Dec 11, 2022 12:58 pm

Countesia wrote:
Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
“Do tell, what’s wrong with preventing any efforts of retaliation? Hostilities in general are very tense and problematic for the times, so it would be good to know.”


"I can tell you exactly why. What's to stop you from orchestrating another Galapagos?"


Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
“I doubt much controversy would really come considering the main purpose of these talks. Marajarbia will support the Neo-Korean proposal, as well.”


"At least we agree on something, I suppose."


“A change in leadership, perhaps? Emperor Thomas has been considering retirement for a while now.”
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Postby GermanEmpire of kaisereich » Sun Dec 11, 2022 1:00 pm

Hiram Land wrote:The representative from Hiram Land, Jan Willens, approaches the meeting table. With them comes a small piece of paper and the KTO Charter on a booklet the size of a Bible. They look around again before sitting at their seat and, after looking at the demands so far, began to speak:

"If the imperialist power of Marajarbia attempts to provide a pact where, so far as the KTO cannot save smaller countries from the dark cloud of the purple-green banner of the ODP, then why sign this piece of parchment?"

They sigh before looking around again.

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Postby Southeast Marajarbia » Sun Dec 11, 2022 1:03 pm

Hiram Land wrote:The representative from Hiram Land, Jan Willens, approaches the meeting table. With them comes a small piece of paper and the KTO Charter on a booklet the size of a Bible. They look around again before sitting at their seat and, after looking at the demands so far, began to speak:

"If the imperialist power of Marajarbia attempts to provide a pact where, so far as the KTO cannot save smaller countries from the dark cloud of the purple-green banner of the ODP, then why sign this piece of parchment?"

They sigh before looking around again.


“KTO thinks they are righteous like my homeland does? Well, if KTO wants to believe that, my homeland sees no problem with it. Anyways, since the majority so far supports the Neo-Korean proposal instead of a permanent NAP, the next demand is regarding mutual cooperation.

Both sides have to cooperate and work together on certain issues. There could be other threats out there, which both sides could face together, or there could be other issues plaguing the world, such as issues regarding rampant WMD usage or slavery. Both sides need to cooperate in order to help one another, and this could even lead to both sides becoming friends instead of enemies.”
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