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London Peace Conference PHASE 1 (KTO-ODP, ARCHIVED)

A staging-point for declarations of war and other major diplomatic events. [In character]

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Postby Southeast Marajarbia » Sun Dec 11, 2022 4:46 pm

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“That’s great. Now, do you have any other concerns about the NAP that can be resolved here today?”

"Have we resolved issues if conflicts of interest or has this not been discussed yet?"


“It has not been discussed yet, as far as Marajarbia is aware.”
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Postby The Military State of the Galapagos » Sun Dec 11, 2022 4:48 pm

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The Military State of the Galapagos wrote:Elisa Mondale: I believe the Galapagosian position has already been stated on this issue


“We will see if anyone supports the Neo Korean proposal first. There should be a majority in support, but it should be left up to the mediators in a democratic vote amongst all participants.”

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Postby Southeast Marajarbia » Sun Dec 11, 2022 4:49 pm

The Military State of the Galapagos wrote:
Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
“We will see if anyone supports the Neo Korean proposal first. There should be a majority in support, but it should be left up to the mediators in a democratic vote amongst all participants.”

Elisa Mondale: Like you know anything of democracy


“Just my recommendation. It’s ultimately up to the neutral mediators present, such as Mr. Mosely.”
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Postby Bakivaland » Sun Dec 11, 2022 4:50 pm

The Military State of the Galapagos wrote:
Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
“We will see if anyone supports the Neo Korean proposal first. There should be a majority in support, but it should be left up to the mediators in a democratic vote amongst all participants.”

Elisa Mondale: Like you know anything of democracy

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Postby Gonswanza » Sun Dec 11, 2022 4:53 pm

Francisco seems annoyed by the general ignorance of those present, but he simply takes a stroll over to the drink bar, grabs a few cubes, then walks over to the Marjarbian representative and slips them down his shirt (or attempts to, anyways) before walking off on his merry way as he tries to catch up on the conversation, checking his phone only to see Laura Ortiz ranting at him about "Marjarbian Lizard People".

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Postby GermanEmpire of kaisereich » Sun Dec 11, 2022 5:04 pm

Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
GermanEmpire of kaisereich wrote:"Have we resolved issues if conflicts of interest or has this not been discussed yet?"


“It has not been discussed yet, as far as Marajarbia is aware.”

"Then can we discuss this, as my last proposal was for that purpose."
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Postby Southeast Marajarbia » Sun Dec 11, 2022 5:07 pm

GermanEmpire of kaisereich wrote:
Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
“It has not been discussed yet, as far as Marajarbia is aware.”

"Then can we discuss this, as my last proposal was for that purpose."


“Very well. What’s KTO’s main conflict of interest in regards to the ODP?”
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Postby Gonswanza » Sun Dec 11, 2022 5:13 pm

Francisco waves his arms, whistling, even snapping his fingers in front of the glass-eyed Marjarbian animatronic which seemed to be blankly staring forwards at the other animatronics, having a conversation with them that was mimicking a human conference.

"Helloooo? Anyone home? I'm right here? The Gonswanzan Foreign Minister? Are you people even alive?"
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Postby GermanEmpire of kaisereich » Sun Dec 11, 2022 5:14 pm

Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
GermanEmpire of kaisereich wrote:"Then can we discuss this, as my last proposal was for that purpose."


“Very well. What’s KTO’s main conflict of interest in regards to the ODP?”

"My proposal was to avoid possible conflicts of interest of the members of both sides: For if we avoid that the interest of one member is threatened by the interest of another member of the other Alliance, it will avoid a greater probability of a conflict between the alliances. "
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Postby Southeast Marajarbia » Sun Dec 11, 2022 5:16 pm

GermanEmpire of kaisereich wrote:
Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
“Very well. What’s KTO’s main conflict of interest in regards to the ODP?”

"My proposal was to avoid possible conflicts of interest of the members of both sides: For if we avoid that the interest of one member is threatened by the interest of another member of the other Alliance, it will avoid a greater probability of a conflict between the alliances. "


“It seems simple enough, but the only problem relies entirely on specific interests, most of which could come from desires to harm any member nation of either alliance, so how would this be resolved?”
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Postby Bakivaland » Sun Dec 11, 2022 5:17 pm

Gonswanza wrote:Francisco waves his arms, whistling, even snapping his fingers in front of the glass-eyed Marjarbian animatronic which seemed to be blankly staring forwards at the other animatronics, having a conversation with them that was mimicking a human conference.

"Helloooo? Anyone home? I'm right here? The Gonswanzan Foreign Minister? Are you people even alive?"

Mister Hermansen would walk in,

"Hello! How are you? Oh, the Marajarbian is... distracted."
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Postby GermanEmpire of kaisereich » Sun Dec 11, 2022 5:17 pm

"As I said at the beginning of the discussion, before you were saying that I was imitating your proposal: We must contain the spark first, then we can empty the powder keg, for there is no point in trying to empty the powder keg if at any moment a spark can blow everything up."
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Postby Southeast Marajarbia » Sun Dec 11, 2022 5:18 pm

GermanEmpire of kaisereich wrote:"As I said at the beginning of the discussion, before you were saying that I was imitating your proposal: We must contain the spark first, then we can empty the powder keg, for there is no point in trying to empty the powder keg if at any moment a spark can blow everything up."


“Sounds understandable.”
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Postby The Military State of the Galapagos » Sun Dec 11, 2022 5:21 pm

Gonswanza wrote:Francisco waves his arms, whistling, even snapping his fingers in front of the glass-eyed Marjarbian animatronic which seemed to be blankly staring forwards at the other animatronics, having a conversation with them that was mimicking a human conference.

"Helloooo? Anyone home? I'm right here? The Gonswanzan Foreign Minister? Are you people even alive?"

Elisa Mondale: I don’t think it has the brain capacity to understand words with more than one syllable. I wouldn’t waste my time if I were you
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Postby GermanEmpire of kaisereich » Sun Dec 11, 2022 5:21 pm

Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
GermanEmpire of kaisereich wrote:"As I said at the beginning of the discussion, before you were saying that I was imitating your proposal: We must contain the spark first, then we can empty the powder keg, for there is no point in trying to empty the powder keg if at any moment a spark can blow everything up."


“Sounds understandable.”

"I've finally been heard!" Hindenburg cries out in euphoria after finally having a proposal accepted.
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Postby Southeast Marajarbia » Sun Dec 11, 2022 5:25 pm

GermanEmpire of kaisereich wrote:
Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
“Sounds understandable.”

"I've finally been heard!" Hindenburg cries out in euphoria after finally having a proposal accepted.


“Still, the only problem is the specific interests. Both alliances have tried for so long to one up the other, which in and of itself may have to be based on interest alone. How would that spark be contained?”
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Postby Gonswanza » Sun Dec 11, 2022 5:26 pm

Bakivaland wrote:
Gonswanza wrote:Francisco waves his arms, whistling, even snapping his fingers in front of the glass-eyed Marjarbian animatronic which seemed to be blankly staring forwards at the other animatronics, having a conversation with them that was mimicking a human conference.

"Helloooo? Anyone home? I'm right here? The Gonswanzan Foreign Minister? Are you people even alive?"

Mister Hermansen would walk in,

"Hello! How are you? Oh, the Marajarbian is... distracted."

"Oh that's fucking great, then. I suppose I'll have to wait for their programming to be freed up. Regardless, I am well! How are you?"

He'd turn to the Bakialandian representative, with a smile upon his face, before the Galapagosian speaks up.

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Gonswanza wrote:Francisco waves his arms, whistling, even snapping his fingers in front of the glass-eyed Marjarbian animatronic which seemed to be blankly staring forwards at the other animatronics, having a conversation with them that was mimicking a human conference.

"Helloooo? Anyone home? I'm right here? The Gonswanzan Foreign Minister? Are you people even alive?"

Elisa Mondale: I don’t think it has the brain compactor to understand words with more than one syllable. I wouldn’t waste my time if I were you


"-Indeed, that seems quite... Evident."
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Postby GermanEmpire of kaisereich » Sun Dec 11, 2022 5:40 pm

Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
GermanEmpire of kaisereich wrote:"I've finally been heard!" Hindenburg cries out in euphoria after finally having a proposal accepted.


“Still, the only problem is the specific interests. Both alliances have tried for so long to one up the other, which in and of itself may have to be based on interest alone. How would that spark be contained?”

"In my opinion, the best way to avoid this is for alliances to avoid interfering in the political and economic interests of both, if one does not threaten, the other does not need to prepare to defend itself."
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Postby The Military State of the Galapagos » Sun Dec 11, 2022 5:47 pm

GermanEmpire of kaisereich wrote:
Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
“Still, the only problem is the specific interests. Both alliances have tried for so long to one up the other, which in and of itself may have to be based on interest alone. How would that spark be contained?”

"In my opinion, the best way to avoid this is for alliances to avoid interfering in the political and economic interests of both, if one does not threaten, the other does not need to prepare to defend itself."


Elisa Mondale: That might be a problem as leaving some ODP members unchecked could lead to unmeasurable amounts of human suffering
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Postby GermanEmpire of kaisereich » Sun Dec 11, 2022 5:50 pm

The Military State of the Galapagos wrote:
GermanEmpire of kaisereich wrote:"In my opinion, the best way to avoid this is for alliances to avoid interfering in the political and economic interests of both, if one does not threaten, the other does not need to prepare to defend itself."


Elisa Mondale: That might be a problem as leaving some ODP members unchecked could lead to unmeasurable amounts of human suffering

" But of course we will amend the proposal with other updates that will be made throughout the discussion, so if you want to add something to the proposal, feel free "
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Postby Bakivaland » Sun Dec 11, 2022 5:50 pm

The Military State of the Galapagos wrote:
GermanEmpire of kaisereich wrote:"In my opinion, the best way to avoid this is for alliances to avoid interfering in the political and economic interests of both, if one does not threaten, the other does not need to prepare to defend itself."


Elisa Mondale: That might be a problem as leaving some ODP members unchecked could lead to unmeasurable amounts of human suffering

"Agreed."
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Postby Southeast Marajarbia » Sun Dec 11, 2022 6:15 pm

The Military State of the Galapagos wrote:
GermanEmpire of kaisereich wrote:"In my opinion, the best way to avoid this is for alliances to avoid interfering in the political and economic interests of both, if one does not threaten, the other does not need to prepare to defend itself."


Elisa Mondale: That might be a problem as leaving some ODP members unchecked could lead to unmeasurable amounts of human suffering


“Both sides could use it. Not just ODP, but also KTO, specifically in its war department.”
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Postby The Military State of the Galapagos » Sun Dec 11, 2022 7:18 pm

Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
The Military State of the Galapagos wrote:
Elisa Mondale: That might be a problem as leaving some ODP members unchecked could lead to unmeasurable amounts of human suffering


“Both sides could use it. Not just ODP, but also KTO, specifically in its war department.”

Elisa Mondale: I don’t know this seems to be more in favor of the ODP since their military is either to incompetent or to weak to even a single KTO member state much less threaten us
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Postby New England and Greater New Brunswick » Sun Dec 11, 2022 7:23 pm

The Military State of the Galapagos wrote:
Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
“Both sides could use it. Not just ODP, but also KTO, specifically in its war department.”

Elisa Mondale: I don’t know this seems to be more in favor of the ODP since their military is either to incompetent or to weak to even a single KTO member state much less threaten us

King Jakob II: Ambassador, please. There is no reason to use such aggressive language. May I hear what the Marajarbian is proposing?
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