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Bakivaland
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Postby Bakivaland » Thu Dec 01, 2022 6:14 am

"We'll prefer to stay neutral in this conflict, as it isn't our problem nor our battle,"
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Postby Southeast Marajarbia » Thu Dec 01, 2022 6:26 am

Bakivaland wrote:"We'll prefer to stay neutral in this conflict, as it isn't our problem nor our battle,"


“Sounds understandable. However, considering how many conflicts have plagued the entire world so far, the fight we ought to pursue is that of peace and prosperity. Does anybody else wish to share their thoughts?”
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Postby Cryochol » Thu Dec 01, 2022 8:34 am

"I believe it would not be too costly or dangerous to intervene in the war. Although we can remain neutral, it would most likely do us no harm to intervene."

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Southeast Marajarbia
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Postby Southeast Marajarbia » Thu Dec 01, 2022 9:51 am

Cryochol wrote:"I believe it would not be too costly or dangerous to intervene in the war. Although we can remain neutral, it would most likely do us no harm to intervene."


“Sounds reasonable. The only problem is that we’d have to pick sides in some of the wars we fight in. Because of some of Marajarbia’s now former enemies, the world is in a dangerous path, so we ought to pick our battles wisely.”
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Postby Bakivaland » Thu Dec 01, 2022 2:50 pm

Cryochol wrote:"I believe it would not be too costly or dangerous to intervene in the war. Although we can remain neutral, it would most likely do us no harm to intervene."

"Although doing so would require a proposal to be put in place, we could send both our country's military and the newly founded Response Force,"
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Postby Southeast Marajarbia » Thu Dec 01, 2022 4:32 pm

Bakivaland wrote:
Cryochol wrote:"I believe it would not be too costly or dangerous to intervene in the war. Although we can remain neutral, it would most likely do us no harm to intervene."

"Although doing so would require a proposal to be put in place, we could send both our country's military and the newly founded Response Force,"


“Marajarbia can agree with this. Until a good military proposal is in place, troops from each individual nation would have to be sent instead of official ODP forces. There’s an easy fix to that, but it might take time to accomplish. Time right now being…limited.”
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Postby Southeast Marajarbia » Fri Dec 02, 2022 5:21 pm

“Word just got back from Andreusville. Andreusville wants the ODP to take an aggressive stance against the invasion taking place in Kamchatska.”
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Bakivaland
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Postby Bakivaland » Fri Dec 02, 2022 6:27 pm

"Bakivaland wishes to stay neutral, or not intervene at all. Norrhammar has made that very clear, but they may wish to intervene if Russia interferes with any our planes,"
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Cachard Calia
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Postby Cachard Calia » Fri Dec 02, 2022 7:32 pm

Southeast Marajarbia wrote:“Word just got back from Andreusville. Andreusville wants the ODP to take an aggressive stance against the invasion taking place in Kamchatska.”

"I would propose that, as a show of strength, we invade Kamchatska by sandwiching the Russian forces between ours and the Kamchatskans, and then pushing through the defeated Russians and weakened Kamchatskans to the rest of the peninsula," suggests Bisnik. "This would both allow us to gain some territory and liberate the Kamchatskans from a monarchy by giving them democracy, with the added bonuses of proving our might to the rest of the world and showing that we will not allow the expansion of inhumane countries."
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Bakivaland
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Postby Bakivaland » Fri Dec 02, 2022 8:20 pm

Cachard Calia wrote:
Southeast Marajarbia wrote:“Word just got back from Andreusville. Andreusville wants the ODP to take an aggressive stance against the invasion taking place in Kamchatska.”

"I would propose that, as a show of strength, we invade Kamchatska by sandwiching the Russian forces between ours and the Kamchatskans, and then pushing through the defeated Russians and weakened Kamchatskans to the rest of the peninsula," suggests Bisnik. "This would both allow us to gain some territory and liberate the Kamchatskans from a monarchy by giving them democracy, with the added bonuses of proving our might to the rest of the world and showing that we will not allow the expansion of inhumane countries."

"I must disagree with that, at least not until a solid proposal is written and voted on,"
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Postby Cachard Calia » Fri Dec 02, 2022 8:53 pm

Bisnik pulls a sheet of paper out of her briefcase. "I submit the following proposal to the Ocean Defence Pact:"
The Ocean Defence Pact hereby:

1. Declares war on the Russian Republic and the Kingdom of Kamchatska;
2. Mandates the Ocean Defence Force to attack the Russian Republic and Kingdom of Kamchatska;
2.A. Declares the formation of the Kamchatska Task Force, and declares that said task force shall oversee the invasion of Kamchatska and removal of Russian troops under the supervision of the rest of the Ocean Defence Force;
3. Annexes the Kamchatskan peninsula;
4. Demands the withdrawal of Russian forces from Kamchatska and the surrender of all Kamchatskan forces;
5. Forms the Democratic State of Kamchatska;
5.A. Declares that this state shall be administered by a member of the Executive Council of the Ocean Defence Pact for its first ten years of existence;
6. Denounces the Russian Republic and Kingdom of Kamchatska.
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Russia18
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Postby Russia18 » Fri Dec 02, 2022 10:09 pm

Imperial Fiji wrote:“Perhaps we should discuss the recent Russian Invasion of Kamchatska, after all, the Nation is in the Pacific, and the ODP should not allow acts of Imperial Russian Expansion, I think the ODP should atleast send Humanitarian Aid to Kamchatska for the time being.” The Fijin Representative said.

Sasha Kristoff looked at the Fiji delegate confused, "We haven't invaded anybody by that name so why accuse us of such?"
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Southeast Marajarbia
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Postby Southeast Marajarbia » Sat Dec 03, 2022 5:03 am

Cachard Calia wrote:
Southeast Marajarbia wrote:“Word just got back from Andreusville. Andreusville wants the ODP to take an aggressive stance against the invasion taking place in Kamchatska.”

"I would propose that, as a show of strength, we invade Kamchatska by sandwiching the Russian forces between ours and the Kamchatskans, and then pushing through the defeated Russians and weakened Kamchatskans to the rest of the peninsula," suggests Bisnik. "This would both allow us to gain some territory and liberate the Kamchatskans from a monarchy by giving them democracy, with the added bonuses of proving our might to the rest of the world and showing that we will not allow the expansion of inhumane countries."


“It could work, but we shouldn’t occupy any part of land as an alliance. If any one of our member nations does try to occupy, they are free to do so, though.”
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Postby Hettic Republic » Sat Dec 03, 2022 9:27 am

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Bakivaland
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Postby Bakivaland » Sat Dec 03, 2022 9:31 am

Cachard Calia wrote:Bisnik pulls a sheet of paper out of her briefcase. "I submit the following proposal to the Ocean Defence Pact:"
The Ocean Defence Pact hereby:

1. Declares war on the Russian Republic and the Kingdom of Kamchatska;
2. Mandates the Ocean Defence Force to attack the Russian Republic and Kingdom of Kamchatska;
2.A. Declares the formation of the Kamchatska Task Force, and declares that said task force shall oversee the invasion of Kamchatska and removal of Russian troops under the supervision of the rest of the Ocean Defence Force;
3. Annexes the Kamchatskan peninsula;
4. Demands the withdrawal of Russian forces from Kamchatska and the surrender of all Kamchatskan forces;
5. Forms the Democratic State of Kamchatska;
5.A. Declares that this state shall be administered by a member of the Executive Council of the Ocean Defence Pact for its first ten years of existence;
6. Denounces the Russian Republic and Kingdom of Kamchatska.

"I disagree with this, and we already have created a joint Response Force, so there isn't any reason to create a separate task force for Kamchatska. Bakivaland opposes this proposal."

Asabelle pauses,

"And also, we shouldn't intervene in such a war without any reason to do so."
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Postby Southeast Marajarbia » Sat Dec 03, 2022 2:17 pm

Cachard Calia wrote:Bisnik pulls a sheet of paper out of her briefcase. "I submit the following proposal to the Ocean Defence Pact:"
The Ocean Defence Pact hereby:

1. Declares war on the Russian Republic and the Kingdom of Kamchatska;
2. Mandates the Ocean Defence Force to attack the Russian Republic and Kingdom of Kamchatska;
2.A. Declares the formation of the Kamchatska Task Force, and declares that said task force shall oversee the invasion of Kamchatska and removal of Russian troops under the supervision of the rest of the Ocean Defence Force;
3. Annexes the Kamchatskan peninsula;
4. Demands the withdrawal of Russian forces from Kamchatska and the surrender of all Kamchatskan forces;
5. Forms the Democratic State of Kamchatska;
5.A. Declares that this state shall be administered by a member of the Executive Council of the Ocean Defence Pact for its first ten years of existence;
6. Denounces the Russian Republic and Kingdom of Kamchatska.


“Marajarbia somewhat opposes this. It seems too aggressive towards Kamchatska and not very aggressive towards the legitimate invaders, those being Russia and Chong Qing.”
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Postby Imperial Fiji » Sat Dec 03, 2022 3:47 pm

The imperial Fijin representative left the room for a few minutes, before coming back,

“Ok, I have good news regarding Kamchatska, the good news is both them and Russia were able to hold peace talks and are currently discussing peace deals, so it looks like the issue solved itself”
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Postby Bakivaland » Sat Dec 03, 2022 4:21 pm

Cachard Calia wrote:Bisnik pulls a sheet of paper out of her briefcase. "I submit the following proposal to the Ocean Defence Pact:"
The Ocean Defence Pact hereby:

1. Declares war on the Russian Republic and the Kingdom of Kamchatska;
2. Mandates the Ocean Defence Force to attack the Russian Republic and Kingdom of Kamchatska;
2.A. Declares the formation of the Kamchatska Task Force, and declares that said task force shall oversee the invasion of Kamchatska and removal of Russian troops under the supervision of the rest of the Ocean Defence Force;
3. Annexes the Kamchatskan peninsula;
4. Demands the withdrawal of Russian forces from Kamchatska and the surrender of all Kamchatskan forces;
5. Forms the Democratic State of Kamchatska;
5.A. Declares that this state shall be administered by a member of the Executive Council of the Ocean Defence Pact for its first ten years of existence;
6. Denounces the Russian Republic and Kingdom of Kamchatska.

"Also, if this somehow is actually held up for vote, Bakivaland is threatening to use their veto power in the vote,"
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Postby Cachard Calia » Sat Dec 03, 2022 8:10 pm

Bakivaland wrote:
Cachard Calia wrote:Bisnik pulls a sheet of paper out of her briefcase. "I submit the following proposal to the Ocean Defence Pact:"
The Ocean Defence Pact hereby:

1. Declares war on the Russian Republic and the Kingdom of Kamchatska;
2. Mandates the Ocean Defence Force to attack the Russian Republic and Kingdom of Kamchatska;
2.A. Declares the formation of the Kamchatska Task Force, and declares that said task force shall oversee the invasion of Kamchatska and removal of Russian troops under the supervision of the rest of the Ocean Defence Force;
3. Annexes the Kamchatskan peninsula;
4. Demands the withdrawal of Russian forces from Kamchatska and the surrender of all Kamchatskan forces;
5. Forms the Democratic State of Kamchatska;
5.A. Declares that this state shall be administered by a member of the Executive Council of the Ocean Defence Pact for its first ten years of existence;
6. Denounces the Russian Republic and Kingdom of Kamchatska.

"Also, if this somehow is actually held up for vote, Bakivaland is threatening to use their veto power in the vote,"

"Is it not the case that other EC nations can overrule?"
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Postby Cachard Calia » Sat Dec 03, 2022 8:12 pm

Cachard Calia wrote:Bisnik pulls a sheet of paper out of her briefcase. "I submit the following proposal to the Ocean Defence Pact:"
The Ocean Defence Pact hereby:

1. Declares war on the Russian Republic and the Kingdom of Kamchatska;
2. Mandates the Ocean Defence Force to attack the Russian Republic and Kingdom of Kamchatska;
2.A. Declares the formation of the Kamchatska Task Force, and declares that said task force shall oversee the invasion of Kamchatska and removal of Russian troops under the supervision of the rest of the Ocean Defence Force;
3. Annexes the Kamchatskan peninsula;
4. Demands the withdrawal of Russian forces from Kamchatska and the surrender of all Kamchatskan forces;
5. Forms the Democratic State of Kamchatska;
5.A. Declares that this state shall be administered by a member of the Executive Council of the Ocean Defence Pact for its first ten years of existence;
6. Denounces the Russian Republic and Kingdom of Kamchatska.

"I withdraw the proposal, due to its nullification."
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Postby Southeast Marajarbia » Sun Dec 04, 2022 4:00 am

Imperial Fiji wrote:The imperial Fijin representative left the room for a few minutes, before coming back,

“Ok, I have good news regarding Kamchatska, the good news is both them and Russia were able to hold peace talks and are currently discussing peace deals, so it looks like the issue solved itself”


“Sounds great”
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Postby Kamchatska » Sun Dec 04, 2022 9:59 am

The Representative of Kamchatska Arrives in the Boardoom, Mr. Danyl Ivan

“Hallo Fellow Representatives, what is that matter we are Discussing?”
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Postby Southeast Marajarbia » Sun Dec 04, 2022 10:02 am

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Kamchatska wrote:The Representative of Kamchatska Arrives in the Boardoom, Mr. Danyl Ivan

“Hallo Fellow Representatives, what is that matter we are Discussing?”


“Well, your homeland and its recent crises, of course.”
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Postby Kamchatska » Sun Dec 04, 2022 10:04 am

Southeast Marajarbia wrote:8)
Kamchatska wrote:The Representative of Kamchatska Arrives in the Boardoom, Mr. Danyl Ivan

“Hallo Fellow Representatives, what is that matter we are Discussing?”


“Well, your homeland and its recent crises, of course.”

“Oh yes, The Russians…it felt like only yesterday…wait.”

Then he checked his watch for the day.

“Oh, it was yesterday, Either Way, I’m glad to say the war is now over and we are discussing peace, my King is currently in Santoak Doing Negotiations, even though this war is over, Kamchatska still is Largely left in Ruins, many are homeless and families are destroyed, perhaps the ODP could send humanitarian aid to Kamchatska?”
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Postby Southeast Marajarbia » Sun Dec 04, 2022 10:05 am

Kamchatska wrote:
Southeast Marajarbia wrote:8)

“Well, your homeland and its recent crises, of course.”

“Oh yes, The Russians…it felt like only yesterday…wait.”

Then he checked his watch for the day.

“Oh, it was yesterday, Either Way, I’m glad to say the war is now over and we are discussing peace, my King is currently in Santoak Doing Negotiations, even though this war is over, Kamchatska still is Largely left in Ruins, many are homeless and families are destroyed, perhaps the ODP could send humanitarian aid to Kamchatska?”


“We could send economic and humanitarian aid as an alliance. Furthermore, we’ve heard reports of the establishment of a DMZ, and would like our own forces to protect that specific area, if possible.”
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