ICON Planning Phase (Attn Anagonia, Darlingtown, Neo-Korea)

[Anagonia]

Ambassador Max Gill:

Anagonian interests have and will always be the protection of trade. Regardless of tarriff, regardless of price, regardless of what two nations trade, our interests are the protection of that economic prosperity. How we go about this process, regardless if we investigating the economic situation or not, I put forth we should first consider how best we all could contribute at protecting the avenues and assets utilized for trading.

Ambassador Gill takes a moment to look over a piece a paper he grabs from a folder briefly before replacing it.

I believe we have extensively agreed through back-channels what the debate process will be moving forward. If I recall correctly, item one is the ratification of Rules of Order. Item two is the ratification of rules of professional conduct. Item three is discussion of how to define humanitarian values, followed by clarification in the charter once those values have consensus. Item four is a discussion of implantation of economic cooperation. Item five is a plan for how to accomplish military cooperation. Somewhere between item three and item four, I believe we should consider not only the issues put forth by Ambassador Rolan, but furthermore the issues put forth by myself insofar as trade protection.

I would like to attribute these items to the respects and capabilities of Prince de Hulfe, who first assigned them. Thank you.

[Sombreland]

"If we are generally in agreement about the rules of order and professional conduct, then I would like to propose three things to address concerning economic cooperation for ICON," said Prince de Hulfe.

"First, Measures for the expansion of trade of developing countries in ICON as a means of furthering their economic development, Second: reduction or elimination of tariffs and other barriers to trade, and measures for access to markets for agricultural and other primary products.

"While I am sure that some might be happy to agree with this idea on general principle, as I am sure the learned folk here can imagine, implmenting that would be tricky. Ambassador Gill brought up trade protection. Some nations, I know, love the principle of free trade. For some nations, such as mine, this is a daunting prospect, and could undermine our country's domestic economy. What would happen, for instance, to farmers, fishermen, timber wrights, mineral miners and such, to say nothing of those who produce refined products like pharmaceuticals, furniture, petroleum products, if they could be undersold in our domestic markets by foreigners?

"So I would like to know: Ambassador Rohan and others concerned with this, what are your economic concerns insofar as ICON can address them?"

[Anagonia]

Ambassador Max Gill:

As I stated, Ambassador Prince de Hulfe, Anagonian interests are for trade protection. I elaborated on the precepts of paid trade, such as tariffs and taxes. While free trade agreements establish bountiful prospects, I do agree they do not generally promote any manner or form of economic prosperity. In that regard, we support and appreciate your viewpoint on this. As a matter of fact, Anagonia is presently an active member of the Trilateral Trade Association Accord. This is one of various active agreements we have pursued for economic security and prosperity. The Confederate States - Anagonia as a whole - is united in its ambitions to protect trade at all costs.

[Sombreland]

"I think, then," said Prince de Hulfe, "that we probably need to hear from everyone on this. I mean, if Anagonia's national policy is trade protection, then I might not be far off if Ambassador Gill were to say that no trade agreement is better than a trade agreement, if you follow me. I imagine that would mean no trade barrier reduction at all; no lessening of tariffs, no reduction of docking or port fees, no removal of any monopolies. I'm not sure what that would leave us open to discuss, if that is Anagonia's position. Are other delegates offering any trade agreements?"

[Civia Welephilostopia]

Arriving from a comercially converted FF-9 and touching down in Imperia City Min Ashung would step out of the plane and enter into the conference room where the ICON member states were discussing how to create an alliance like no other. He would hope like Welephilostopia he would be able to provide valuable comments and insights and allow a great alliance that treats all nations as equals. He would enter the room, say hello to all the delegates and apologise if his entrance was interrupting anything. He would then sit down and listen. He would introduce topics he wanted to when the time was right.

[Darlingtown]

- SACHI -

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"I'm glad to see that the Charter has been fully ratified, this is truly a momentous occasion. Though it certainly would not have been possible without all of us working together to forge such a thing cooperatively, and for that you all have my unending thanks. This could not have been done without y'all.

That said, I believe there's been a misunderstanding. Prince de Hulfe, I believe when Ambassador Gill refers to 'trade protection', he does not mean it as a stand-in for laissez faire economic policies. Rather, from what I can glean from the TTAA, 'trade protection' is more of establishing a regulatory body to insure that our nations, who are meant to be cooperating with each other, do not unjustly extort each other or allow abusive or maligned deals from being struck. It is quite the opposite, in fact, of such laissez faire doctrines.

In this regard, smaller nations like Darlingtown would be on more of an equal footing in negotiations compared to the larger economies of this alliance. Without such a regulatory body economies like Darlingtown's would easily become subjected to whatever potentially abusive or extortionate deals larger powers would force upon us. And while we could simply rely on good will and hope, I do think it is better that we set up a commission to ensure that no such abuses begin to worm their way into our goal of economic cooperation. And for the good of Darlingtown I must insist on such a regulatory body's creation, as the absence of such oversight into the fairness of trade between member states would mean that Darlingtown would lose its voice entirely on economic matters."

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[Awesome Imperium]

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- SACHI -

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"I'm glad to see that the Charter has been fully ratified, this is truly a momentous occasion. Though it certainly would not have been possible without all of us working together to forge such a thing cooperatively, and for that you all have my unending thanks. This could not have been done without y'all.

That said, I believe there's been a misunderstanding. Prince de Hulfe, I believe when Ambassador Gill refers to 'trade protection', he does not mean it as a stand-in for laissez faire economic policies. Rather, from what I can glean from the TTAA, 'trade protection' is more of establishing a regulatory body to insure that our nations, who are meant to be cooperating with each other, do not unjustly extort each other or allow abusive or maligned deals from being struck. It is quite the opposite, in fact, of such laissez faire doctrines.

In this regard, smaller nations like Darlingtown would be on more of an equal footing in negotiations compared to the larger economies of this alliance. Without such a regulatory body economies like Darlingtown's would easily become subjected to whatever potentially abusive or extortionate deals larger powers would force upon us. And while we could simply rely on good will and hope, I do think it is better that we set up a commission to ensure that no such abuses begin to worm their way into our goal of economic cooperation. And for the good of Darlingtown I must insist on such a regulatory body's creation, as the absence of such oversight into the fairness of trade between member states would mean that Darlingtown would lose its voice entirely on economic matters."

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"Agreed. The ICON Security Council and Secretariet have the power to set up commissions and commissioners to carry out various activities overseen by their commision and this would be a great way to use and apply this power in a usefull and meaningful way. Imperia proposes a Commisioner of Trade under the Overseer of Trade responsible for fair and protected trade and leading a commision discharged with overseeing the same."

[Romanic Imperium]

Captain Ara Bravdo walks in she goes over to Atalanta and whispers in her ear something that makes Atalanta smile. Ara doesnt leave she just Stands behind Atalanta

Atalanta: I have just received word that His majesty Jaguar Aquilion has ordered a line of Movies, Tv Shows, and comics to support ICON among the people its designed to target any doubts people may have of our fledgling alliance

[Anagonia]

Ambassador Max Gill:

I second the motion presented by Ambassador Nika Delphina as well as Ambassador SACHI who initially proposed the topic at hand. SACHI is correct, the TTA was formed as a regulatory body to oversee fair trade - not to be extorted, not to be abused, not to be undercut, but fair trade. To that end, I freely put forth the entire document for all members of this assembly to review and for ICON as a whole to copy as they please. By all means, Anagonia would be honored if you utilized even a portion of our policies to assist in fair and equal trade between members. I fully support the establishment of the department of trade or ministry of trade, whichever shall fit the construct of this alliance, along with the necessary staff and support structure to oversee fair and equal trade.

As Ambassador Gill says this, an assistant hands out a copy of the TTA Accord. He continues after a momentary pause.

I'd like to also address some concerning topics I've noted in the backrooms. That of proposing alliances and agreements with other organizations and alliances. I am all for better relations between ICON and other alliances, but I must state openly that Anagonia's position on such agreements does not extend to allowing representatives of foreign organizations free reign of our private debates. I want to submit a public complaint to this assembly that such a proposal was even brought up. I'd like to make it known that it's very clear from the backrooms voting that not even ICON as a whole appreciates the prospects. I hereby put forth the motion that we suspend - permanently - any future proposals mentioning foreign elements having any view of our private affairs.

After a moment of silence, Max looks to Atalanta

Ambassador Atalanta, that is very interesting news. Would this not fall under our department or ministry of culture, if we have one? If we don't, why not we discuss forming one?

[Civia Welephilostopia]

Min Ashung would speak up, "I do not mean to impose but I think that some language changes may be in order, forgive me if I change up the language to better suite ICON." He would later hand out a revised copy of the TTA Accords which would read as follows:

The Trilateral Trade Association Accord


On this day the nations of the Confederate States of Anagonia, the United Revolutionary States of Janpia, Darlingtown, the Republic of Civia Welephilostopia, the State of Neo-Korea, the Imperial Commonwealth of Imperia, the Kingdom of Sombreland, the Federal Republic of Countesia the Romanic Imperium & Europe A Nation come into terms concerning issues pertaining to trade and commerce. Henceforth these are the agreed upon terms of compliance for this Accord:

1.) The Confederate States of Anagonia, the United Revolutionary States of Janpia, Darlingtown, the Republic of Civia Welephilostopia, the State of Neo-Korea, the Imperial Commonwealth of Imperia, the Kingdom of Sombreland, the Federal Republic of Countesia the Romanic Imperium & Europe A Nation shall be classified as the founding members of the Trilateral Trade Association (TTA) and shall contribute 1% of an agreed-upon amount of funding to appropriately fund the formation, management, supervision, and operation of the TTA as an independent and unbiased entity. Funds provided shall go to payment of staff, which shall consist staff of equal portion applicable each member-nation within the TTA.

2.) The responsibility of the TTA shall be to oversee the fair acts of commerce and trade between member-nations. That therefore staff of the TTA with the responsibility thereof shall use their best, unbiased judgement to fairly monitor and advise trade routes between member-nations of the TTA. That the Confederate States of Anagonia shall be utilized as an unbiased third-party trade and redistribution point upon which trades between member-nations may be accumulated and thereupon a resource or item of trade or commerce of equal or needed value may be redistributed in the process of said fair and unbiased trade and commerce in return for the original appropriated item of trade or commerce. That such redistribution of trade and commerce shall not constitute an unfair taxation, tariff, or fee in the process of redistribution.

3.) The TTA shall oversee and fairly distribute taxes and tariffs in the process of fair and unbiased commerce and trade between member-nations. That such taxes, tariffs, fees, and trades or therefore any amount of currency gained as fees in the process of the act of commerce or trade shall not violate an unfair and biased proportion as determined by the TTA. That such transactions overseen and preformed by the TTA shall be monitored, fairly initiated, fairly concluded, with the funds and accumulated fees thereof fairly distributed to relevant member-nations after such conclusion of commerce or trade.

4.) That therefore this Accord of the Trilateral Trade Association shall be made open to additional member-nations upon agreement of the original founding members and ratification of this Accord. That such new member-nations shall additionally fall under the jurisdiction of the articles listed in this Accord including but not limited to be required to provide 1% of an agreed upon fund to fund the TTA as a whole. That additional member-nations may be added by agreement of the original founding member-nations of this Accord. That staff of the newly added member-nations may also be fairly and equally represented in the TTA as applicable by this Accord. That newly added member-nations shall also fall under the protections and responsibilities of this Accord.

5.) That all member-nations, upon agreement, may ratify this Accord to add or detract articles of jurisdiction and enforcement as necessary for the continuation of the Trilateral Trade Association. That all member-nations, at any time, with a fair vote and voice, may dissolve the responsibilities and enforcement of this Accord should it no longer be necessary for the economic prosperity of all member-nations involved.

6.) That therefore any newly added member-nations shall have their representatives name added to this Accord to be applicable to the provisions and articles of this Accord. That therefore any member-nations concluded either voluntarily or by determination of a majority of member-nations to be out of agreement of this Accord shall have their representatives struck out as null and void to longer be applicable to the provisions and articles of this Accord. That with the exclusion of the founding member-nations of this Accord, any newly added member-nations may be struck out as null and void of found in violation of the provisions and articles of this Accord by majority decision of this Accords founding member-nations.

7.) That therefore the funds distributed for the proper functioning of the TTA, as required by this Accord of all member-nations, may also be utilized by the TTA for but not limited to the following:
-Acquisition of assets to assist the functioning of the TTA such as office supplies, computerized assets, vehicles, aircraft, office spaces.
-Anything agreed upon by the TTA to assist with its proper functioning, up to the limit that such assets or property acquired shall not be utilized for a military purpose.
-Maintenance of property and assets as required for proper functioning.
-Fair and equitable funding of all staff and persons utilized in the process of TTA operations.

8.) The TTA shall not acquire assets that over-extend the provisional monetary supply of funding from member-nations. That the TTA shall fairly and sensibly utilize said funding and maintain a positive flow. That at no time shall any acquisition gained by the TTA for its proper functioning be utilized against the sovereign national interests of any member-nation of this Accord, in any capacity, for any reason.

[Sombreland]

Prince de Hulfe made a few notes, and handed them to one of his staff, and then leaned forward, lacing fingers of both hands together.

"First, a slight change of topic to respond to Ambassador Gill's concern about non signatories being included in our councils: I would agree with a hard no on behalf of my government. If governments want to be included, they can apply to join. Otherwise, they can be dealt with through representatives from ICON. We want this organization to be effective, I presume, and not chaotic. Having said that, there is no reason we cannot make efforts to be cooperative with other organizations, within reason.

"As to the TTA agreement, I have several concerns I would like to raise with both the original document and with Prime Minister Ashung's suggestions.

"Concerning article one: No contention at this time.

"Concerning article two: There are two points of clarification my government would like here. First: it is not clear to my government why TTA is being proposed as a regulatory body rather than as an advisory body. How far does its power reach, in that case? Can it advise that tariffs imposed on a non domestic product are unlawful? if so, what can be done by the agency?

"And also within article two: why would Anagonia be a distribution point? That seems very inefficient.

"Concerning article three: The TTA shall oversee and fairly distribute taxes and tariffs in the process of fair and unbiased commerce and trade between member-nations.. This seems like a reduction of sovereignty. What are these taxes and tariffs being collected for? Is the treaty proposing that nations shall no longer collect taxes, or are these extra taxes?

"Concerning article four: no argument at this time.

"Concerning article five: see item three. Enforcement and jurisdiction for what purpose?

"Concerning article six: no concerns at this time.

"Concerning article seven: no concerns at this time.

"Concerning article eight: no concerns at this time

"Concerning article nine: no concern at this time."

"As we can readily see, ladies and gentlemen, my government does not have a great many concerns, but there are a few which His Majesty's government would like to see addressed. Thank you."

[Civia Welephilostopia]

Prime Minister Min Ashung would reply stating that "This is merely a revised version, unchanged except to change the previous signatories with those present. I believe that should clear up the misunderstanding," he would turn to the others, "I think as Prince de Hulfe does that the accords is larglely agreable however in some ares it shall need some tweaking." He would usher one of his aides to send a report back to parliment and to fetch him a glass of water.

[Civia Welephilostopia]

Welephilostopian Revision 1:

1.) The Confederate States of Anagonia, the United Revolutionary States of Janpia, Darlingtown, the Republic of Civia Welephilostopia, the State of Neo-Korea, the Imperial Commonwealth of Imperia, the Kingdom of Sombreland, the Federal Republic of Countesia the Romanic Imperium & Europe A Nation shall be classified as the founding members of the Trilateral Trade Association (TTA) and shall contribute 1% of an agreed-upon amount of funding to appropriately fund the formation, management, supervision, and operation of the TTA as an independent and unbiased entity. Funds provided shall go to payment of staff, which shall consist staff of equal portion applicable each member-nation within the TTA.

2.) The responsibility of the TTA shall be to oversee the fair acts of commerce and trade between member-nations. That therefore staff of the TTA with the responsibility thereof shall use their best, unbiased judgement to fairly monitor and advise trade routes between member-nations of the TTA. That such redistribution of trade and commerce shall not constitute an unfair taxation, tariff, or fee in the process of redistribution.

3.) The TTA shall oversee and fairly distribute voluntary dues and tariffs in the process of fair and unbiased commerce and trade between member-nations. That such dues, tariffs, fees, and trades or therefore any amount of currency gained as fees in the process of the act of commerce or trade shall not violate an unfair and biased proportion as determined by the TTA. That such transactions overseen and preformed by the TTA shall be monitored, fairly initiated, fairly concluded, with the funds and accumulated fees thereof fairly distributed to relevant ICON enforcement organisations.

4.) That therefore this Accord of the Trilateral Trade Association shall be made open to additional member-nations upon agreement of the original founding members and ratification of this Accord. That such new member-nations shall additionally fall under the jurisdiction of the articles listed in this Accord including but not limited to be required to provide 1% of an agreed upon fund to fund the TTA as a whole. That additional member-nations may be added by agreement of the original founding member-nations of this Accord. That staff of the newly added member-nations may also be fairly and equally represented in the TTA as applicable by this Accord. That newly added member-nations shall also fall under the protections and responsibilities of this Accord.

5.) That all member-nations, upon agreement, may ratify this Accord to add or detract articles of jurisdiction and enforcement as necessary for the continuation of the Trilateral Trade Association. That all member-nations, at any time, with a fair vote and voice, may dissolve the responsibilities and enforcement of this Accord should it no longer be necessary for the economic prosperity of all member-nations involved.

6.) That therefore any newly added member-nations shall have their representatives name added to this Accord to be applicable to the provisions and articles of this Accord. That therefore any member-nations concluded either voluntarily or by determination of a majority of member-nations to be out of agreement of this Accord shall have their representatives struck out as null and void to longer be applicable to the provisions and articles of this Accord. That with the exclusion of the founding member-nations of this Accord, any newly added member-nations may be struck out as null and void of found in violation of the provisions and articles of this Accord by majority decision of this Accords founding member-nations.

7.) That therefore the funds distributed for the proper functioning of the TTA, as required by this Accord of all member-nations, may also be utilized by the TTA for but not limited to the following:
-Acquisition of assets to assist the functioning of the TTA such as office supplies, computerized assets, vehicles, aircraft, office spaces.
-Anything agreed upon by the TTA to assist with its proper functioning, up to the limit that such assets or property acquired shall not be utilized for a military purpose.
-Maintenance of property and assets as required for proper functioning.
-Fair and equitable funding of all staff and persons utilized in the process of TTA operations.

8.) The TTA shall not acquire assets that over-extend the provisional monetary supply of funding from member-nations. That the TTA shall fairly and sensibly utilize said funding and maintain a positive flow. That at no time shall any acquisition gained by the TTA for its proper functioning be utilized against the sovereign national interests of any member-nation of this Accord, in any capacity, for any reason.

We would also like if these accords were renamed to the ICON Trading Agreement/Accords.

[Europe a Nation]

Welephilostopian Revision 1:

1.) The Confederate States of Anagonia, the United Revolutionary States of Janpia, Darlingtown, the Republic of Civia Welephilostopia, the State of Neo-Korea, the Imperial Commonwealth of Imperia, the Kingdom of Sombreland, the Federal Republic of Countesia the Romanic Imperium & Europe A Nation shall be classified as the founding members of the Trilateral Trade Association (TTA) and shall contribute 1% of an agreed-upon amount of funding to appropriately fund the formation, management, supervision, and operation of the TTA as an independent and unbiased entity. Funds provided shall go to payment of staff, which shall consist staff of equal portion applicable each member-nation within the TTA.

2.) The responsibility of the TTA shall be to oversee the fair acts of commerce and trade between member-nations. That therefore staff of the TTA with the responsibility thereof shall use their best, unbiased judgement to fairly monitor and advise trade routes between member-nations of the TTA. That such redistribution of trade and commerce shall not constitute an unfair taxation, tariff, or fee in the process of redistribution.

3.) The TTA shall oversee and fairly distribute voluntary dues and tariffs in the process of fair and unbiased commerce and trade between member-nations. That such dues, tariffs, fees, and trades or therefore any amount of currency gained as fees in the process of the act of commerce or trade shall not violate an unfair and biased proportion as determined by the TTA. That such transactions overseen and preformed by the TTA shall be monitored, fairly initiated, fairly concluded, with the funds and accumulated fees thereof fairly distributed to relevant ICON enforcement organisations.

4.) That therefore this Accord of the Trilateral Trade Association shall be made open to additional member-nations upon agreement of the original founding members and ratification of this Accord. That such new member-nations shall additionally fall under the jurisdiction of the articles listed in this Accord including but not limited to be required to provide 1% of an agreed upon fund to fund the TTA as a whole. That additional member-nations may be added by agreement of the original founding member-nations of this Accord. That staff of the newly added member-nations may also be fairly and equally represented in the TTA as applicable by this Accord. That newly added member-nations shall also fall under the protections and responsibilities of this Accord.

5.) That all member-nations, upon agreement, may ratify this Accord to add or detract articles of jurisdiction and enforcement as necessary for the continuation of the Trilateral Trade Association. That all member-nations, at any time, with a fair vote and voice, may dissolve the responsibilities and enforcement of this Accord should it no longer be necessary for the economic prosperity of all member-nations involved.

6.) That therefore any newly added member-nations shall have their representatives name added to this Accord to be applicable to the provisions and articles of this Accord. That therefore any member-nations concluded either voluntarily or by determination of a majority of member-nations to be out of agreement of this Accord shall have their representatives struck out as null and void to longer be applicable to the provisions and articles of this Accord. That with the exclusion of the founding member-nations of this Accord, any newly added member-nations may be struck out as null and void of found in violation of the provisions and articles of this Accord by majority decision of this Accords founding member-nations.

7.) That therefore the funds distributed for the proper functioning of the TTA, as required by this Accord of all member-nations, may also be utilized by the TTA for but not limited to the following:
-Acquisition of assets to assist the functioning of the TTA such as office supplies, computerized assets, vehicles, aircraft, office spaces.
-Anything agreed upon by the TTA to assist with its proper functioning, up to the limit that such assets or property acquired shall not be utilized for a military purpose.
-Maintenance of property and assets as required for proper functioning.
-Fair and equitable funding of all staff and persons utilized in the process of TTA operations.

8.) The TTA shall not acquire assets that over-extend the provisional monetary supply of funding from member-nations. That the TTA shall fairly and sensibly utilize said funding and maintain a positive flow. That at no time shall any acquisition gained by the TTA for its proper functioning be utilized against the sovereign national interests of any member-nation of this Accord, in any capacity, for any reason.

We would also like if these accords were renamed to the ICON Trading Agreement/Accords.

Sort of busy looking Ms Talleyrand asks
"Could you please specify what do you mean by 1% contribution in Article 1?"
She rearranges some papers on her desk and continues..
"Anyway thank you for your proposal Mr... (OOC...who is your representative or it's PM himself who paid us a visit?). I'll present it to the government and eventually propose changes."

[Sombreland]

Prince de Hulfe replied,

"2.) The responsibility of the TTA shall be to oversee the fair acts of commerce and trade between member-nations. That therefore staff of the TTA with the responsibility thereof shall use their best, unbiased judgement to fairly monitor and advise trade routes between member-nations of the TTA. That such redistribution of trade and commerce shall not constitute an unfair taxation, tariff, or fee in the process of redistribution. Redistribution?" he raised his palms a moment. "Why do we need redistribution? It does not matter, Ambassador, if you call it taxation or redistribution, it would still be taking a nation's resources and putting it where a bureaucratic organization wanted. Why? For what purpose?

"3.) The TTA shall oversee and fairly distribute voluntary dues and tariffs in the process of fair and unbiased commerce and trade between member-nations. That such dues, tariffs, fees, and trades or therefore any amount of currency gained as fees in the process of the act of commerce or trade shall not violate an unfair and biased proportion as determined by the TTA. That such transactions overseen and preformed by the TTA shall be monitored, fairly initiated, fairly concluded, with the funds and accumulated fees thereof fairly distributed to relevant ICON enforcement organisations. This ties in with the previous point. What exactly is this for?

"Ladies and gentlemen, this seems to be the heart of the TTA's purpose, unless I am much mistaken. Unless there is something I am missing, I would like to propose, instead, that a committee be organized which will simply attempt to find a series of compromises on tariffs, duties, and trade arrangements to the mutual benefit of the organization. It does not have to work out everything immediately. I would like to propose, unless there is any disagreement, to the formation of such a committee, which we can simply call "The Economic and Trade Affairs Committee."

[Darlingtown]

- SACHI -

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"I must agree with Ambassador Gill and Prince de Hulfe on the matter of adding non-signatories to our councils. Not only do I not see a reason to allow for such things, but it would also undermine the entirety of our inter-alliance relations department as we'd be possible undoing any carefully constructed liaison between said alliances by revealing our alliance's decision-making process through a very unfiltered lens. As Overseer of Inter-Alliance Relations I must propose we vigilantly ensure no such error be made again, as another such failure in security could compromise the optics through which the international community views us from even the simplest misunderstanding.

Furthermore, as much as I would prefer to start from scratch rather than adapt an agreement made under completely different circumstances for our own purposes, I will nevertheless engage with such debate by agreeing wholesale with the Sombrelandian delegation. As it currently stands, copying the TTA one-to-one would violate the Charter by imposing regulations that would violate the sovereignty of all member nations. It would be better to rework this as an 'advisory' body as Prince de Hulfe has suggested, but this does also illustrate why simply adapting a preexisting agreement has very clear inherent flaws. It would be best if we started from scratch rather than trying to Frankenstein a new agreement from an old one. Because of this, I shall second Sombreland's proposal to form a committee to establish a new agreement that better suits ICON and it's unique situation.

But besides all that, we do need to establish where exactly the funds for this organization are going to be coming from. Shall we create a membership tax so we can sustain our operations? Will we impose a tariff on trade? Will we somehow subsist solely on charitable donation? Because as great as setting up a regulatory or advisory body is, we do need to fund ICON's administration and infrastructure in a dependable way that is not prone to collapse at a moment's notice. For that reason I suggest we first establish our treasury, taxation, and the likes through legislation before we go trying to build any amount of administrative burden on our fledgling alliance. Foundations first, then we may begin dreaming of gilded halls and ivory towers."

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[Anagonia]

Ambassador Max Gill:

I am in agreement with Ambassador SACHI and Prince de Hulfe that, while it is flattering the alliance is considering copying the TTA, I had not seriously pondered the consequences of an actual copy. We must rather adapt it's intentions to the purpose of our alliance. As SACHI has stated, we should do so after we get the appropriate departments in place. In this I agree and support.

[Civia Welephilostopia]

Min Ashung would usher an aide to get him a glass of water. After clearing his throat he'd speak. "Clearly it seems that the alliance is more interested in advisory bodies rather than formulating agreements that would infringe in some way on national sovereingty." He would stop awaiting for ideas to be presented.

[Sombreland]

“PrimevMinister, that is partly correct. This alliance is for mutual benefit, in the view of my government, not to direct the workings of government. The TTA does not provide any understanding of what allocation of funds would, precisely, provide. Nor does it give us any idea of what the standards for economic cooperation should be. The committee is to determine what each nation wants from the alliance in terms of economic cooperation. Once it has done it’s work, we can establish what executive and operative policy implementation is required.”

[Krow-Bock]

As the night sky around Awesome Imperium largest international airport come alive, three large 747s land at one of the empty hangers where 13,000 of 50,000 of the President's private security emerge from all three aircrafts disturbing the quiet peace. Only 13 security soldiers accompany me in the convoy to the national capital to speak with the allied leader.

"Hello citizens of Awesome Imperium, I heard of wonderful friend and fellow leader is assembling their own alliance organization and too show our support and cooperation, I, Michael Draven, President of Krow-Bock are interested and 100% open to joining your alliance economically and militarily."

I talk to a few politicians before sending the night in one of the prestigious hotels in the capital before leaving the next day, returning home.

[Awesome Imperium]

As the night sky around Awesome Imperium largest international airport come alive, three large 747s land at one of the empty hangers where 13,000 of 50,000 of the President's private security emerge from all three aircrafts disturbing the quiet peace. Only 13 security soldiers accompany me in the convoy to the national capital to speak with the allied leader.

"Hello citizens of Awesome Imperium, I heard of wonderful friend and fellow leader is assembling their own alliance organization and too show our support and cooperation, I, Michael Draven, President of Krow-Bock are interested and 100% open to joining your alliance economically and militarily."

I talk to a few politicians before sending the night in one of the prestigious hotels in the capital before leaving the next day, returning home.

OOC: What!? Also everyone else don’t respond to this message until I’ve dealt with this, just continue the main rp.

[Awesome Imperium]

As the night sky around Awesome Imperium largest international airport come alive, three large 747s land at one of the empty hangers where 13,000 of 50,000 of the President's private security emerge from all three aircrafts disturbing the quiet peace. Only 13 security soldiers accompany me in the convoy to the national capital to speak with the allied leader.

"Hello citizens of Awesome Imperium, I heard of wonderful friend and fellow leader is assembling their own alliance organization and too show our support and cooperation, I, Michael Draven, President of Krow-Bock are interested and 100% open to joining your alliance economically and militarily."

I talk to a few politicians before sending the night in one of the prestigious hotels in the capital before leaving the next day, returning home.

To join, we accept the not posts here as this is an exclusive thread only for existing member. My nation’s name is Imperia not Awesome Imperium and some of this stuff is gifmidfing as I didn’t consent to this and ICIA would absolutely not have 50,000 foreign security emerge onto Roman Soil, that kind of stuff is considered an act of war in the Roman Empire.

[Awesome Imperium]

Also how do you plan on fitting 50,000 people in like 4 747's like what? That much security and all that effort just do deliver like a one-liner speech? Yea please dont post in my exclusive threads like this, the people invited are shown on the title and everyone else is a member of ICON and communications like this are usually done via tg or discord.

[Krow-Bock]

As the night sky around Awesome Imperium largest international airport come alive, three large 747s land at one of the empty hangers where 13,000 of 50,000 of the President's private security emerge from all three aircrafts disturbing the quiet peace. Only 13 security soldiers accompany me in the convoy to the national capital to speak with the allied leader.

"Hello citizens of Awesome Imperium, I heard of wonderful friend and fellow leader is assembling their own alliance organization and too show our support and cooperation, I, Michael Draven, President of Krow-Bock are interested and 100% open to joining your alliance economically and militarily."

I talk to a few politicians before sending the night in one of the prestigious hotels in the capital before leaving the next day, returning home.

To join, we accept the not posts here as this is an exclusive thread only for existing member. My nation’s name is Imperia not Awesome Imperium and some of this stuff is gifmidfing as I didn’t consent to this and ICIA would absolutely not have 50,000 foreign security emerge onto Roman Soil, that kind of stuff is considered an act of war in the Roman Empire.

Well I do apologize my dear friend on the interruption as I eagerly and out of respect, wanted to submit an invite as you're still in planning phase or in a stage long the way. Since I value your cooperation, political and economical ties I figured to visit your nation personally to discuss the terms of joining and speak to several of your politicians just in general to further growth with both of our nations. I mean no harm or any intent of invade and I truly sorry your borders and your people. As such, I will take accountability and remove myself from such thread out of respect for you, the fellow other nations, and the organization foundation structure and purpose.

As such take care and be well,
Michael Draven.
President of Krow-Bock

[Neo-Western East Korea]

Rolan, seemingly requiring a moment to finalize something within his skull, takes a decent period of time to continue the conversation after the end of De Hulfe’s statement.

“It has taken me some time to get everything written down properly, but I would like to propose something to be discussed in regards to the economic conversation I inadvertently started.”

He takes a moment to hand out a copy of a document to the individuals currently within the room.

ECONOMIC AND TRADE AFFAIRS COMMITTEE
DRAFT 0.1:

1:
All members of ICON as of the date of the writing of this paper (IC OR OOC DATE HERE) shall be classified as the founders (unless they do not wish to join or otherwise be involved) of the body dedicated to establishing an body able to fairly regulate trade in regards to the membership of ICON, to be formed by this document.
The budgetary concerns of this body shall be addressed at a later date when budgetary concerns overall are handled (SUBJECT TO CHANGE).

2:
The responsibility of this body shall be to facilitate fair acts of trade and commerce between the membership of this body, with the understanding that under no circumstances should this body infringe on the inherent rights of a nation to determine its own actions and future.
This shall be be done, preferably, through offering a space for economic agreements to be undertaken that is free of bias or other forms of specific favoritism of groups or nations that would threaten the ability to make agreements in good favor.

3:
This organization shall, additionally, with the consent of all within its body, attempt to find compromises in regards to systems of tariffs, duties, and trade arrangements that benefit both ICON and the nations involved to the maximum possible extent, while still assuring that national sovereignty is preserved and maintained to the maximum extent.
These attempts to find compromises shall also (when applicable) (with the consent of these groups through deals made by the Committee of Economic Affairs) attempt to incorporate groups relating to the banking systems extant within nations already within the Economic and Trade Affairs Committee to assure effective results in these endeavors.

4: The Committee of Economic Affairs will be the aforementioned representative body under the Office of the Overseer of Finance which shall be a forum for discussion, deliberation and debate about economic and financial concerns.

“If the basic outline is agreeable to all who would be involved, I believe we can move to further discussion on the details”.