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Treaty of Aurtumn II [IC]

A staging-point for declarations of war and other major diplomatic events. [In character]

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Southeast Marajarbia
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Postby Southeast Marajarbia » Wed Oct 05, 2022 4:43 am

Janpia wrote:Rep. Helmin:"I'll deny it as much as to what I personally like. And by you mean "everyone?", you mean just you? The rest are talking about how much should we pay on a reasonable pay, and you are whining there like a child. Consequences? Oh please, Marajarbia is a third-rate nation that has an unstable economy as stated from various sources!"


"So, you've admitted to denying that KTO lost this war, admitted that KTO violated the past treaty in order to "maintain" it and fulfill it's imperialist ambitions, and are currently attempting to get the modern "Capital of War Crimes" that are the Armenians to try to ignore diplomacy, all the while insulting fellow diplomats. Not a very good look for the leader of the KTO. Your homeland of Janpia just got its secrets revealed, so you feel desperate yet?"
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Postby Niran » Wed Oct 05, 2022 4:49 am

Charlie de la Mier watches with interest.

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Postby Southeast Marajarbia » Wed Oct 05, 2022 4:53 am

Niran wrote:Charlie de la Mier watches with interest.


The Marajarbian Representative, seeing this, motions for representative de la Mier to join in.
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Postby Niran » Wed Oct 05, 2022 5:00 am

" I do not know much of the things that went on between Janpia and Marajarbia as my armies were fighting on a different from against the SOL and greater Oceania but if this is all true then Janpia should pay up."

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Postby Southeast Marajarbia » Wed Oct 05, 2022 5:26 am

Niran wrote:" I do not know much of the things that went on between Janpia and Marajarbia as my armies were fighting on a different from against the SOL and greater Oceania but if this is all true then Janpia should pay up."


"Not only must they pay back the Aursian people for their illegal invasion without loans, but they also must pay back the Mitheledonians, admit the KTO lost, and KTO must publicly apologize for their actions. If they continue to refuse, there will be several consequences."
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Postby Niran » Wed Oct 05, 2022 5:31 am

Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
Niran wrote:" I do not know much of the things that went on between Janpia and Marajarbia as my armies were fighting on a different from against the SOL and greater Oceania but if this is all true then Janpia should pay up."


"Not only must they pay back the Aursian people for their illegal invasion without loans, but they also must pay back the Mitheledonians, admit the KTO lost, and KTO must publicly apologize for their actions. If they continue to refuse, there will be several consequences."


I agree, it is obvious who won and who lost this war. Janpia must admit the KTO's defeat and apologize before they make things worse for themselves."

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Postby Janpia » Wed Oct 05, 2022 5:36 am

Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
Niran wrote:" I do not know much of the things that went on between Janpia and Marajarbia as my armies were fighting on a different from against the SOL and greater Oceania but if this is all true then Janpia should pay up."


"Not only must they pay back the Aursian people for their illegal invasion without loans, but they also must pay back the Mitheledonians, admit the KTO lost, and KTO must publicly apologize for their actions. If they continue to refuse, there will be several consequences."


He laughs and mockingly said

"CoNsEqUeNcEs."

He whispered for a bit to himself

"Also known as none!"

Long live the Janpian Union of Revolutionary States!

5th Era


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- Nation doesn't totally reflect my political views.(Damn you random policies!)
- No. I ain't no FT nation
- Check my military equipments. Worked hard on dem drawings
- Currently trying to improve my RP quality, and improving past pain write-ups
-My favorite past time read. Probably the reference for my deathstar. But I still swear that I'm not an FT nation
- Sometimes I wonder what am I doing with my export program
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Postby Southeast Marajarbia » Wed Oct 05, 2022 5:41 am

Janpia wrote:
Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
"Not only must they pay back the Aursian people for their illegal invasion without loans, but they also must pay back the Mitheledonians, admit the KTO lost, and KTO must publicly apologize for their actions. If they continue to refuse, there will be several consequences."


He laughs and mockingly said

"CoNsEqUeNcEs."

He whispered for a bit to himself

"Also known as none!"


“Heh. That’s desperation. Also a refusal of the demands.”

He would then face the representative from Mitheldalond

“Looks like the Janpians aren’t going to pay up the, how much was it again, billion something NSD? What’s the Mitheldalondian response to this, as well as KTO’s refusal to admit defeat?” He said, loudly, knowing that the KTO’s representatives would predictably become even more angered and egotistical.
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Postby Aursi » Wed Oct 05, 2022 5:43 am

Janpia wrote:
Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
"Not only must they pay back the Aursian people for their illegal invasion without loans, but they also must pay back the Mitheledonians, admit the KTO lost, and KTO must publicly apologize for their actions. If they continue to refuse, there will be several consequences."


He laughs and mockingly said

"CoNsEqUeNcEs."

He whispered for a bit to himself

"Also known as none!"

Serik Ulyanov: ❝Okay, so give me proofs that We were the one to break the treaty, not you. If you are able to proof, then no need to apologize.❞
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Janpia
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Postby Janpia » Wed Oct 05, 2022 5:44 am

Janpia wrote:
Mitheldalond wrote:The Mitheldalondian representative nods. "I agree that those tactics constitute war crimes, and that Niran should be penalized for them. My suggestion would be that Niran forfeits any reparations for the loss and damage of their ships, the deaths of their men, and expended munitions."


"It's true that Mitheldalond has suffered few casualties thus far. The numbers I have here indicate no more than a few dozen killed, another few dozen wounded, and only minor equipment losses. However, we have also expended significant amounts of ordnance and ammunition in the course of the war - as I'm sure your own fleet is well aware, and Mitheldalondian soldiers have repeatedly risked their own lives to rescue the wounded and survivors of KTO aligned nations.

"This is not the matter I would have chosen to discuss first, but since you ask, I have our current estimates for the cost of our munitions expenditure here." He flipped through a stack of papers and drew one out, reading from it. "From Armenia: $200,424,000. From Countesia: $278,280,000. From Tartania: approximately $96,287,000. From Galapagos: $303,417,000. And from Janpia: $1,092,576,000."

He lowered the piece of paper. "I am instructed to note that these are only preliminary estimates, and may change with a more thorough investigation. We are also attempting to calculate the war costs incurred by Aursi and our other allies, though this is proving far more difficult. This is part of the reason we wish to first establish an official ceasefire."

Resting his hands on the table and watching his Janpian counterpart closely, he continued. "Mitheldalondian forces did not strafe any Countesians whatsoever. In fact, our soldiers risked their own lives flying helicopters out over the combat area to rescue Countesian survivors. I would appreciate it if you would refrain from slandering men whose courage far exceeds both yours and mine."

He relaxes slightly before continuing. "And your claim that Aursi violated the Treaty of Aurtumn are baseless and false, as was clearly explained by King Eldahir before this war even began. The treaty, in addition to being so poorly written as to be unenforceable in the first place, only prevented Aursi from becoming an absolute monarchy, not from becoming a constitutional monarchy. There has never been the slightest bit of evidence presented to indicate that the referendum was in any way undemocratic.

"I do not know whether your government was fooled by the lies of Aquaria or bought into them willingly, but it was your alliance, sir, and your allies that violated the treaty, not Aursi."


Rep. Unya Soriya:"I believe that the cost of Mitheldalondian wasted armaments and among other things is not the choice of ours, but on to your government. I also believe that those amounts must be taken for audit purposes since I believe that a simple spy drone won't cause much to say, a bunch of missile spam against the Armenians. As a matter of fact, the KTO is willing to provide for the humanitarian, military, or infrastructure damage that it has inflicted on Aursi"



Rep. Unya:"Stated it better and way ahead of you buddy"

Long live the Janpian Union of Revolutionary States!

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- Nation doesn't totally reflect my political views.(Damn you random policies!)
- No. I ain't no FT nation
- Check my military equipments. Worked hard on dem drawings
- Currently trying to improve my RP quality, and improving past pain write-ups
-My favorite past time read. Probably the reference for my deathstar. But I still swear that I'm not an FT nation
- Sometimes I wonder what am I doing with my export program
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Postby Southeast Marajarbia » Wed Oct 05, 2022 5:51 am

Aursi wrote:
Janpia wrote:
He laughs and mockingly said

"CoNsEqUeNcEs."

He whispered for a bit to himself

"Also known as none!"

Serik Ulyanov: ❝Okay, so give me proofs that We were the one to break the treaty, not you. If you are able to proof, then no need to apologize.❞


"Wow, so quiet from the Janpians! Looks like they truly don't want peace at all!!!" exclaimed the representative.
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Niran
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Postby Niran » Wed Oct 05, 2022 5:51 am

"I think he's got you there"

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Postby Janpia » Wed Oct 05, 2022 5:51 am

Aursi wrote:
Janpia wrote:
He laughs and mockingly said

"CoNsEqUeNcEs."

He whispered for a bit to himself

"Also known as none!"

Serik Ulyanov: ❝Okay, so give me proofs that We were the one to break the treaty, not you. If you are able to proof, then no need to apologize.❞


Rep. Unya's tone suddenly went formal and more professional. Adjusting his seating position and his ties for a bit, he spoke up

Rep. Unya:"As I believe, the Article 6 provides it more clearly"

He then laid down a piece of paper

6. Aursi's first election will be held after half of the year, voted by every Aursian's hand. After this election, the president will be elected. The next election will be held in 4 years. The president is able to be in power in two terms only. independent parties, as long as they are not fascist or extremist, should be allowed to participate in the elections and elected to be the ruling party. If rightist parties win the elections, oversea alliances should have the power to verify if there is fraud in it.


Rep. Unya:"Now, this referendum is done while breaking away from Article 5. Which accordingly, the state government should and must be compromised of the communist party, the democratic party, and the united party, which comprise of independent, non-rightist parties. Neither did the upcoming monarch is part of it as so I've heard. Now, this argument can be further strengthened that the Article 6 stated that the form of government MUST be presidential and can only run for 2 terms only. That means, any form of monarchy is not allowed as stated"
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Long live the Janpian Union of Revolutionary States!

5th Era


- NS policies ain't real. (No prison policy? HAA)
- Yes. I am your average tankie commie.
- Nation doesn't totally reflect my political views.(Damn you random policies!)
- No. I ain't no FT nation
- Check my military equipments. Worked hard on dem drawings
- Currently trying to improve my RP quality, and improving past pain write-ups
-My favorite past time read. Probably the reference for my deathstar. But I still swear that I'm not an FT nation
- Sometimes I wonder what am I doing with my export program
Alliances with:
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-LDO

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Postby Janpia » Wed Oct 05, 2022 5:53 am

Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
Aursi wrote:Serik Ulyanov: ❝Okay, so give me proofs that We were the one to break the treaty, not you. If you are able to proof, then no need to apologize.❞


"Wow, so quiet from the Janpians! Looks like they truly don't want peace at all!!!" exclaimed the representative.

Rep. Unya:"I believe sir Serik, that non-diplomatic idiots like the Marajarbians, which arent even involved in any form during the war, should be removed. Furthermore, he has provided NOTHING throughout the peace conference. Other than that, he's only here as an unnamed jester"
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Long live the Janpian Union of Revolutionary States!

5th Era


- NS policies ain't real. (No prison policy? HAA)
- Yes. I am your average tankie commie.
- Nation doesn't totally reflect my political views.(Damn you random policies!)
- No. I ain't no FT nation
- Check my military equipments. Worked hard on dem drawings
- Currently trying to improve my RP quality, and improving past pain write-ups
-My favorite past time read. Probably the reference for my deathstar. But I still swear that I'm not an FT nation
- Sometimes I wonder what am I doing with my export program
Alliances with:
-KTO
-LDO

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Southeast Marajarbia
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Postby Southeast Marajarbia » Wed Oct 05, 2022 5:54 am

Janpia wrote:
Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
"Wow, so quiet from the Janpians! Looks like they truly don't want peace at all!!!" exclaimed the representative.

Rep. Unya:"I believe sir Serik, that non-diplomatic idiots like the Marajarbians, which arent even involved in any form during the war, should be removed. Furthermore, he has provided NOTHING throughout the peace conference. Other than that, he's only here as an unnamed jester"


"The refusal to take losses and make a mere apology isn't a good look for your socialist homeland hellhole, Mr. Desperate."
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Postby Janpia » Wed Oct 05, 2022 5:56 am

Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
Janpia wrote:Rep. Unya:"I believe sir Serik, that non-diplomatic idiots like the Marajarbians, which arent even involved in any form during the war, should be removed. Furthermore, he has provided NOTHING throughout the peace conference. Other than that, he's only here as an unnamed jester"


"The refusal to take losses and make a mere apology isn't a good look for your socialist homeland hellhole, Mr. Desperate."


Rep. Unya:"Keep providing further proof of my statement."

Long live the Janpian Union of Revolutionary States!

5th Era


- NS policies ain't real. (No prison policy? HAA)
- Yes. I am your average tankie commie.
- Nation doesn't totally reflect my political views.(Damn you random policies!)
- No. I ain't no FT nation
- Check my military equipments. Worked hard on dem drawings
- Currently trying to improve my RP quality, and improving past pain write-ups
-My favorite past time read. Probably the reference for my deathstar. But I still swear that I'm not an FT nation
- Sometimes I wonder what am I doing with my export program
Alliances with:
-KTO
-LDO

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Postby Southeast Marajarbia » Wed Oct 05, 2022 5:59 am

Janpia wrote:
Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
"The refusal to take losses and make a mere apology isn't a good look for your socialist homeland hellhole, Mr. Desperate."


Rep. Unya:"Keep providing further proof of my statement."


"I don't have to, as you are doing so yourself, with that ego of yours and so much desperation that you refuse to properly represent your hellhole of a homeland, you've admitted that KTO came to Aursi for bloodshed, nothing more and nothing less."
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Postby Niran » Wed Oct 05, 2022 6:05 am

"And they got bloodshed in return because they got destroyed by Ausri and its allies".

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Postby Janpia » Wed Oct 05, 2022 6:07 am

Rep. Unya:"After this meeting, I suggest we put the Niranians on war crime trials for utilizing suicide prisoner squads."

Long live the Janpian Union of Revolutionary States!

5th Era


- NS policies ain't real. (No prison policy? HAA)
- Yes. I am your average tankie commie.
- Nation doesn't totally reflect my political views.(Damn you random policies!)
- No. I ain't no FT nation
- Check my military equipments. Worked hard on dem drawings
- Currently trying to improve my RP quality, and improving past pain write-ups
-My favorite past time read. Probably the reference for my deathstar. But I still swear that I'm not an FT nation
- Sometimes I wonder what am I doing with my export program
Alliances with:
-KTO
-LDO

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Postby Southeast Marajarbia » Wed Oct 05, 2022 6:09 am

Niran wrote:"And they got bloodshed in return because they got destroyed by Ausri and its allies".


“Exactly. Kind of hard to deny that KTO lost their little illegal invasion, yet the egotistical Mr. Desperate over here does it anyways. Talk about the hypocritical predictability.”
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Postby Niran » Wed Oct 05, 2022 6:09 am

"You can't put a nation that's nowhere near you on trial. You all may abide by the same law, but Niran only abides by the law of the OEG."

The OEG was the Omni explorer's guild, and it decided the law of three nations. Aurelleon, Niran and Homofront.
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Janpia
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Postby Janpia » Wed Oct 05, 2022 6:14 am

Completely ignoring the Marajarbians, he spoke to the Niranian representative

Rep. Unya:"Places no matter where, is still subject to pre-existing laws of international body or by moral questioning. We will put them on trial, as we put the Emperor of Marajarbia on trial"

Long live the Janpian Union of Revolutionary States!

5th Era


- NS policies ain't real. (No prison policy? HAA)
- Yes. I am your average tankie commie.
- Nation doesn't totally reflect my political views.(Damn you random policies!)
- No. I ain't no FT nation
- Check my military equipments. Worked hard on dem drawings
- Currently trying to improve my RP quality, and improving past pain write-ups
-My favorite past time read. Probably the reference for my deathstar. But I still swear that I'm not an FT nation
- Sometimes I wonder what am I doing with my export program
Alliances with:
-KTO
-LDO

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Niran
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Postby Niran » Wed Oct 05, 2022 6:15 am

"How about....no"

"Niran's task force OM are heroes and will be treated as such, they will stay home in Niran and won't bother to go to any sort of trial."
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Postby Southeast Marajarbia » Wed Oct 05, 2022 6:16 am

Janpia wrote:Rep. Unya:"After this meeting, I suggest we put the Niranians on war crime trials for utilizing suicide prisoner squads."


“With that logic, I suggest putting the Armenians on trial for their war crimes in “their” territory.”
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Postby Janpia » Wed Oct 05, 2022 6:20 am

Rep. Unya:"Armenians are for other talks. As you may have know, this is for the Aursi-KTO war. So shut with your sly whataboutism. As for Niran, we will take you to the court. I believe the Mitheldalondians have also agreed with my statement"

Long live the Janpian Union of Revolutionary States!

5th Era


- NS policies ain't real. (No prison policy? HAA)
- Yes. I am your average tankie commie.
- Nation doesn't totally reflect my political views.(Damn you random policies!)
- No. I ain't no FT nation
- Check my military equipments. Worked hard on dem drawings
- Currently trying to improve my RP quality, and improving past pain write-ups
-My favorite past time read. Probably the reference for my deathstar. But I still swear that I'm not an FT nation
- Sometimes I wonder what am I doing with my export program
Alliances with:
-KTO
-LDO

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