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[Volksrepublik Germany]

Full Nation Name: Die Volksrepublik Deutschland (The People’s Republic of Germany)
Head of Government: Premier Kurt Albrecht
Head of State: Premier Kurt Albrecht
Are you a puppet? If so, who?: No
Name of Representative?: Marko Bachmann
Political Ideology of nation? (Communism, Capitalism, or Socialism?): Unitary socialist one-party democracy
What branch(es) would your nation like to be a part of?: All of them
Reasons for joining UADC (Stated)?: To gain new international allies
Reasons for joining UADC (Actual)?: same as listed
Will you follow the rules?: Yes

[Southeast Marajarbia]

Full Nation Name: Die Volksrepublik Deutschland (The People’s Republic of Germany)
Head of Government: Premier Kurt Albrecht
Head of State: Premier Kurt Albrecht
Are you a puppet? If so, who?: No
Name of Representative?: Marko Bachmann
Political Ideology of nation? (Communism, Capitalism, or Socialism?): Unitary socialist one-party democracy
What branch(es) would your nation like to be a part of?: All of them
Reasons for joining UADC (Stated)?: To gain new international allies
Reasons for joining UADC (Actual)?: same as listed
Will you follow the rules?: Yes

Ah, finally! A full member!

Accepted.

[Janpia]

Full Nation Name: Die Volksrepublik Deutschland (The People’s Republic of Germany)
Head of Government: Premier Kurt Albrecht
Head of State: Premier Kurt Albrecht
Are you a puppet? If so, who?: No
Name of Representative?: Marko Bachmann
Political Ideology of nation? (Communism, Capitalism, or Socialism?): Unitary socialist one-party democracy
What branch(es) would your nation like to be a part of?: All of them
Reasons for joining UADC (Stated)?: To gain new international allies
Reasons for joining UADC (Actual)?: same as listed
Will you follow the rules?: Yes

Ah, finally! A full member!

Accepted.

*condemns Janpia for being a one party socialist state*

Also SM:

[Southeast Marajarbia]

Ah, finally! A full member!

Accepted.

*condemns Janpia for being a one party socialist state*

Also SM:

The People’s Republic of Germany will be withdrawing from the KTO due to the baseless and aggressive blockade of Marajarbia.

(Bold mine) But they do agree that the blockade you are doing is a little too aggressive and has no real point.

[Janpia]

*condemns Janpia for being a one party socialist state*

Also SM:

The People’s Republic of Germany will be withdrawing from the KTO due to the baseless and aggressive blockade of Marajarbia.

(Bold mine) But they do agree that the blockade you are doing is a little too aggressive and has no real point.

*sigh* If people actually read the reason. Or even read a bunch of stuff at all.

[Southeast Marajarbia]

(Bold mine) But they do agree that the blockade you are doing is a little too aggressive and has no real point.

*sigh* If people actually read the reason. Or even read a bunch of stuff at all.

Ah yes, the year old IC grudge that you for some reason still have. Look, if you have grudges like that for that long instead of focusing on, idk, the here and now or the future, these are the kind of things that are going to happen.

[Janpia]

*sigh* If people actually read the reason. Or even read a bunch of stuff at all.

Ah yes, the year old IC grudge that you for some reason still have. Look, if you have grudges like that for that long instead of focusing on, idk, the here and now or the future, these are the kind of things that are going to happen.

Its simple. Actions have consequences. Unless you had your trial, the blockade will continue. And so far, its obvious that the KTO has the advantage

[Southeast Marajarbia]

Ah yes, the year old IC grudge that you for some reason still have. Look, if you have grudges like that for that long instead of focusing on, idk, the here and now or the future, these are the kind of things that are going to happen.

Its simple. Actions have consequences. Unless you had your trial, the blockade will continue. And so far, its obvious that the KTO has the advantage

(Bold mine) And you are facing them and yet not learning from quite a few of them from what I've seen. Now, this is just constructive criticism on my part, but I think you should use the antagonizing of you or the KTO as a moment to learn and try to fix stuff that other players see as wrong and fixable. For example, KTO's legislation. Sure, you propose it and pass it, and that has certainly increased, but it's not perfect. I'm sure you saw my post on my news thread that I made earlier calling for transparency in the votes? That's something you should use to try to improve upon KTO and make it more unique and genuine in a sense.

[Janpia]

Its simple. Actions have consequences. Unless you had your trial, the blockade will continue. And so far, its obvious that the KTO has the advantage

(Bold mine) And you are facing them and yet not learning from quite a few of them from what I've seen. Now, this is just constructive criticism on my part, but I think you should use the antagonizing of you or the KTO as a moment to learn and try to fix stuff that other players see as wrong and fixable. For example, KTO's legislation. Sure, you propose it and pass it, and that has certainly increased, but it's not perfect. I'm sure you saw my post on my news thread that I made earlier calling for transparency in the votes? That's something you should use to try to improve upon KTO and make it more unique and genuine in a sense.

Transparency of votes? Do you know the sanctity of ballots? Ever wonder why in general elections the voter's name is hidden from public? And as I said a countless times, KTO legislations depends on the players if they want to. I'm not the guy to pursue stuff that violates national sovereignty by altering state affairs like education and stuff under the guise of international legislating enforcement. But anywho, grudges simply don't go away that easily. WW2 was 60+ years ago, yet they still never forget. So my suggestion for you is to actually attend a trial, a meeting regarding the international code of conduct, or the blockade would continue.

[Southeast Marajarbia]

(Bold mine) And you are facing them and yet not learning from quite a few of them from what I've seen. Now, this is just constructive criticism on my part, but I think you should use the antagonizing of you or the KTO as a moment to learn and try to fix stuff that other players see as wrong and fixable. For example, KTO's legislation. Sure, you propose it and pass it, and that has certainly increased, but it's not perfect. I'm sure you saw my post on my news thread that I made earlier calling for transparency in the votes? That's something you should use to try to improve upon KTO and make it more unique and genuine in a sense.

Transparency of votes? Do you know the sanctity of ballots? Ever wonder why in general elections the voter's name is hidden from public? And as I said a countless times, KTO legislations depends on the players if they want to. I'm not the guy to pursue stuff that violates national sovereignty by altering state affairs like education and stuff under the guise of international legislating enforcement. But anywho, grudges simply don't go away that easily. WW2 was 60+ years ago, yet they still never forget. So my suggestion for you is to actually attend a trial, a meeting regarding the international code of conduct, or the blockade would continue.

This is an OOC thread and my post was clearly not taken as constructive criticism by you. If you wish to continue this IC grudge of yours, please refrain from posting it or anything related on this OOC thread and take it elsewhere.

[Janpia]

Transparency of votes? Do you know the sanctity of ballots? Ever wonder why in general elections the voter's name is hidden from public? And as I said a countless times, KTO legislations depends on the players if they want to. I'm not the guy to pursue stuff that violates national sovereignty by altering state affairs like education and stuff under the guise of international legislating enforcement. But anywho, grudges simply don't go away that easily. WW2 was 60+ years ago, yet they still never forget. So my suggestion for you is to actually attend a trial, a meeting regarding the international code of conduct, or the blockade would continue.

This is an OOC thread and my post was clearly not taken as constructive criticism by you. If you wish to continue this IC grudge of yours, please refrain from posting it or anything related on this OOC thread and take it elsewhere.

The entire thing is an OOC reply of mine, regarding an IC topic. Its not that hard to differentiate between OOC and IC. The IC grudge is justified given actual rl stuff and example I have stated. I replied to your constructive criticism of how rl voting works and in legislations which I applied for KTO. Incase you dont know, entire reply of mine is OOC. Simple as is.

[Common Territories]

Okay, I'm literally at the end of my rope here about this entire ordeal. I've tried literally everything to get some sort of response from you as time went on. I started positive by being friends IC, I've moved to being rivals because we were ignored, and now I'm trying to be an adversary due to the fact you ignore us and are against our interests. You've ignored me at every stage other than a side pleasantry here and there OOC, and now you'll just spit venom at me without ever being direct now. So I have a pretty good idea what you think about me at this point. As such, I want an answer here and now before I continue forward wasting any more of my time: Are you going to continue ignore cannoning me and Imperion unofficially, or will you finally be open to actually RPing? Your response will determine the future of this relationship of ours, so I ask you be up front with me on what you really want going forward.

It depends honestly. You’ve switched sides and committed so hard to them all in general that it is kind of a hard choice to make or thing to discuss about.

Im gonna be real here. I never switched sides because I was never on a side to begin with. KTO and Imperion have a healthy relationship because they honor their agreement and actually respond to us, even though we're on totally different ideological plains. You've never so much as wrote an IC post concerning us let alone a communique to us. Even as a member threatened a nuclear holocaust upon us, you did literally nothing during and after it. Don't give me that one day suspension bs neither. It's not hard to choose between two sides when one side will actually talk with you and reciprocate actions. So quite honestly, I don't know where this "we have friendly experiences" comes from. I threw a bait & hook out and you refused so much as a nibble. I actually tried on several occasions to get something rolling with you all ranging from positive to negative and nothing was responded to. If you really wanted "positive experiences" you had more than several opportunities to make that a reality from my attempts alone; the fact is your ignored every attempt of mine and you never made an attempt yourself because you've made it clear we're to be ignored if possible. Like if you didn't wish to lose the agreement with Imperion, maybe actually sending a proper invitation to a summit in order to fix our issues after the collapse of the agreement would have done literally something? Or how about swallowing your pride and apologizing with the promise to do better? My point here is that this is an unhealthy relationship we have where I try to interact with you and you totally ignore me completely until I put my foot down at some point, then you compliment me and expect me to forgive you after you literally just stated I (and my creations) don't matter to you in the slightest. So which is it? Since I finally have your attention, do I totally not matter to you or am I someone you respect and have good ground to stand with on? Because I already know the answer, and I suspect you do too, but wont say it out loud.

So im gonna ask again for an answer to my question: Are you going to properly interact with myself and Imperion, or are you going to continue to ignore us? If you fail to properly answer this time, I will make that decision for you. Just as people have noted, you danced around the question completely and refused to even ask for time to think. I don't mind asking for time, but you dodged it completely and now moved the topic away from it - something you've done previously. So im not going to accept an excuse here. Either you want to interact with me or you don't, simple as that. Make your decision now or I will make it for you here and now.

[Volksrepublik Germany]

(Bold mine) But they do agree that the blockade you are doing is a little too aggressive and has no real point.

*sigh* If people actually read the reason. Or even read a bunch of stuff at all.

IC opinion ≠ OOC opinion

[Southeast Marajarbia]

It depends honestly. You’ve switched sides and committed so hard to them all in general that it is kind of a hard choice to make or thing to discuss about.

Im gonna be real here. I never switched sides because I was never on a side to begin with. KTO and Imperion have a healthy relationship because they honor their agreement and actually respond to us, even though we're on totally different ideological plains. You've never so much as wrote an IC post concerning us let alone a communique to us. Even as a member threatened a nuclear holocaust upon us, you did literally nothing during and after it. Don't give me that one day suspension bs neither. It's not hard to choose between two sides when one side will actually talk with you and reciprocate actions. So quite honestly, I don't know where this "we have friendly experiences" comes from. I threw a bait & hook out and you refused so much as a nibble. I actually tried on several occasions to get something rolling with you all ranging from positive to negative and nothing was responded to. If you really wanted "positive experiences" you had more than several opportunities to make that a reality from my attempts alone; the fact is your ignored every attempt of mine and you never made an attempt yourself because you've made it clear we're to be ignored if possible. Like if you didn't wish to lose the agreement with Imperion, maybe actually sending a proper invitation to a summit in order to fix our issues after the collapse of the agreement would have done literally something? Or how about swallowing your pride and apologizing with the promise to do better? My point here is that this is an unhealthy relationship we have where I try to interact with you and you totally ignore me completely until I put my foot down at some point, then you compliment me and expect me to forgive you after you literally just stated I (and my creations) don't matter to you in the slightest. So which is it? Since I finally have your attention, do I totally not matter to you or am I someone you respect and have good ground to stand with on? Because I already know the answer, and I suspect you do too, but wont say it out loud.

So im gonna ask again for an answer to my question: Are you going to properly interact with myself and Imperion, or are you going to continue to ignore us? If you fail to properly answer this time, I will make that decision for you. Just as people have noted, you danced around the question completely and refused to even ask for time to think. I don't mind asking for time, but you dodged it completely and now moved the topic away from it - something you've done previously. So im not going to accept an excuse here. Either you want to interact with me or you don't, simple as that. Make your decision now or I will make it for you here and now.

Alright, if that's the case I'll try to interact more with you guys.

[Janpia]

*sigh* If people actually read the reason. Or even read a bunch of stuff at all.

IC opinion ≠ OOC opinion

You neither lend an opinion nor anything from the proposal to the enforcement, other than say that it is baseless and aggressive. Then you leave after its been like a week its on effect. What are the specifics of your IC opinion? None? Other than that, it looks like you didn't read the IC opinion in the first place. You IC leave, I allow you.

[Guadalupador]

Interact as in actually do In-Character things with us?

[Southeast Marajarbia]

Interact as in actually do In-Character things with us?

With you specifically? No. I was referring more specifically to TECT.

[Guadalupador]

Interact as in actually do In-Character things with us?

With you specifically? No. I was referring more specifically to TECT.

We come as a package deal, buddy. Given TECT and I's collective past, he's canon to me, and vice versa.

[Southeast Marajarbia]

With you specifically? No. I was referring more specifically to TECT.

We come as a package deal, buddy. Given TECT and I's collective past, he's canon to me, and vice versa.

TECT's different there dude. You and him aren't equals, the same package, whateverthefuck you wish to call it. If TECT wants me to interact with him, I interact with him, the same doesn’t fall for you, especially with the recent shit you did against IHS.

[Guadalupador]

Yeah, I did an in-character action against your ally, IHS. IHS reacted to it in-character. That's what an RP is. I like RPing with other people, collective storytelling is pretty rad and I respect IHS, Aursi, Janpia, TECT, Shaz, Roma and others for actually RPing their countries interacting with nations. It sounds like you're blending IC and OOC again.

I don't see why you possess such animosity toward me OOCly, honestly.

[Southeast Marajarbia]

Yeah, I did an in-character action against your ally, IHS. IHS reacted to it in-character. That's what an RP is. I like RPing with other people, collective storytelling is pretty rad and I respect IHS, Aursi, Janpia, TECT, Shaz, Roma and others for actually RPing their countries interacting with nations. It sounds like you're blending IC and OOC again.

I don't see why you possess such animosity toward me OOCly, honestly.

Let's just say you've left a bad impression towards me ever since you joined the overall group.

[Guadalupador]

Let's just say you've left a bad impression towards me ever since you joined the overall group.

Well is there any way we can repair our OOC relations? I'm definitely open to ideas.

I also want to ask you how I left such a bad impression on you, and if I did anything that you would consider apropos of offending you, I apologize for it.

[Southeast Marajarbia]

Let's just say you've left a bad impression towards me ever since you joined the overall group.

Well is there any way we can repair our OOC relations? I'm definitely open to ideas.

I also want to ask you how I left such a bad impression on you, and if I did anything that you would consider apropos of offending you, I apologize for it.

Well, there’s not much that can be done, honestly. At least, not at the moment.


It’s about two months or so of stuff to look at. Specifics are going to take a while to find, and I am a little tired rn, so I will probably look tomorrow.

[United Calanworie]

It depends honestly. You’ve switched sides and committed so hard to them all in general that it is kind of a hard choice to make or thing to discuss about.

Sorry to break it but please realize this isn't a question that should be avoided, it's a yes or no question. I'd honestly just answer the question that's been put and not skirt around it because that will not end well homie. I strongly urge you to realize this. You are at a point now where respected members of II aren't fond of your name in the community and this I definitely know - I'd strongly urge you to reverse course before things get worse. cheers and this will be my definitive last one until he unbans.

Per thread OP, you are not welcome here. Do not continue posting here, or you risk official sanction.

[Southeast Marajarbia]

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Looks like KTO is going on the good path now. Meretica being a part of KTO would actually do a lot of good.