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Postby Guadalupador » Sat Aug 06, 2022 1:31 pm

Awesome Imperium wrote:
Guadalupador wrote:Doesn't RI have all of that besides Belgium?

I'm the ally that is not involved in the war just yet but assisting him via diplomatic and military support as well as a strong military presence in the area, and if you see my previous posts I sent a message to IFC saying I'm not at war yet but I will be if my forces are attacked.

Well good thing we didn't attack your forces.
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Postby Awesome Imperium » Sat Aug 06, 2022 1:32 pm

Guadalupador wrote:
Awesome Imperium wrote:I'm the ally that is not involved in the war just yet but assisting him via diplomatic and military support as well as a strong military presence in the area, and if you see my previous posts I sent a message to IFC saying I'm not at war yet but I will be if my forces are attacked.

Well good thing we didn't attack your forces.


You attacked military emplacements and infrastructure where my forces were present.

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Postby Guadalupador » Sat Aug 06, 2022 1:40 pm

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Guadalupador wrote:Well good thing we didn't attack your forces.


You attacked military emplacements and infrastructure where my forces were present.

Oh, all the assets you suddenly teleported there? Before that, you had just had naval and air assets (with no discernable base of operations by the way) which was acceptable I guess. Then I noticed in your post that you just suddenly mobilized and put ten legions and fortified the coastline within twelve hours? Are those the ones you're referring to?
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Postby Awesome Imperium » Sat Aug 06, 2022 1:41 pm

Guadalupador wrote:
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You attacked military emplacements and infrastructure where my forces were present.

Oh, all the assets you suddenly teleported there? Before that, you had just had naval and air assets (with no discernable base of operations by the way) which was acceptable I guess. Then I noticed in your post that you just suddenly mobilized and put ten legions and fortified the coastline within twelve hours? Are those the ones you're referring to?

One RI and me have connected roads and and military mobility agreements soo yes the legions were in the area.

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Postby Guadalupador » Sat Aug 06, 2022 1:45 pm

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Guadalupador wrote:Oh, all the assets you suddenly teleported there? Before that, you had just had naval and air assets (with no discernable base of operations by the way) which was acceptable I guess. Then I noticed in your post that you just suddenly mobilized and put ten legions and fortified the coastline within twelve hours? Are those the ones you're referring to?

One RI and me have connected roads and and military mobility agreements soo yes the legions were in the area.

Connected roads don't just magically teleport legions post-facto. RI didn't mention you having legions anywhere in his territory. If he did, then that would be different. Also, if that's the case then you got bombed in the first minutes of the war alongside RI if you suddenly just share installations and stuff, you would've gotten hit too.

Also it's still very surprising that you fortified an entire coastline full of smoking military debris within twelve hours.
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Postby Awesome Imperium » Sat Aug 06, 2022 1:46 pm

Guadalupador wrote:
Awesome Imperium wrote:One RI and I have connected roads and military mobility agreements soo yes the legions were in the area.

Connected roads don't just magically teleport legions post-facto. RI didn't mention you having legions anywhere in his territory. If he did, then that would be different. Also, if that's the case then you got bombed in the first minutes of the war alongside RI if you suddenly just share installations and stuff, you would've gotten hit too.

Also, it's still very surprising that you fortified an entire coastline full of smoking military debris within twelve hours.


I said they were already in the area and it ITS A LITERAL ROMAN LEGION DO YOU EVEN KNOW A THING ABOUT A ROMAN LEGION!? There taught to be efficient builders and Legions are supposed to be extremely mobile and self sufficient.

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Postby Guadalupador » Sat Aug 06, 2022 1:55 pm

Awesome Imperium wrote:
Guadalupador wrote:Connected roads don't just magically teleport legions post-facto. RI didn't mention you having legions anywhere in his territory. If he did, then that would be different. Also, if that's the case then you got bombed in the first minutes of the war alongside RI if you suddenly just share installations and stuff, you would've gotten hit too.

Also, it's still very surprising that you fortified an entire coastline full of smoking military debris within twelve hours.


I said they were already in the area and it ITS A LITERAL ROMAN LEGION DO YOU EVEN KNOW A THING ABOUT A ROMAN LEGION!? There taught to be efficient builders and Legions are supposed to be extremely mobile and self sufficient.

Alright, look. Calm down. I do in fact know a lot about roman legions, probably a lot more than you do, actually. But we're talking about modern military formations, and it takes a long time to fill holes in defenses along a coastline that's at least a thousand kilometers across, especially so soon after an engagement. You're not building stone roads in antiquity.
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Postby Shazbotdom » Sat Aug 06, 2022 2:50 pm

I'm seriously just about to indiscriminately bomb any military forces on the ground there. You can't just deploy forces and suddenly fully fortify a position in a matter of hours. That takes WEEKS to do. And, if you are in a war zone, you are a free target. Especially if you are assisting an enemy of the Empire and the IFC.

Don't want to get fired at? leave the area. It's as simple as that.
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Postby Romanic Imperium » Sat Aug 06, 2022 3:33 pm

Just to tell things. My coast has been updated time and time agian. The only weak part is the British coast. But Normandy and all that is heavily fortified with anti air, anti sub, and anti ship
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Postby Awesome Imperium » Sat Aug 06, 2022 6:52 pm

Shazbotdom wrote:I'm seriously just about to indiscriminately bomb any military forces on the ground there. You can't just deploy forces and suddenly fully fortify a position in a matter of hours. That takes WEEKS to do. And, if you are in a war zone, you are a free target. Especially if you are assisting an enemy of the Empire and the IFC.

Don't want to get fired at? leave the area. It's as simple as that.


Or how about I threaten nuclear action and send even more forces do that me and RI outnumber you!?

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Postby Shazbotdom » Sat Aug 06, 2022 8:58 pm

Awesome Imperium wrote:
Shazbotdom wrote:I'm seriously just about to indiscriminately bomb any military forces on the ground there. You can't just deploy forces and suddenly fully fortify a position in a matter of hours. That takes WEEKS to do. And, if you are in a war zone, you are a free target. Especially if you are assisting an enemy of the Empire and the IFC.

Don't want to get fired at? leave the area. It's as simple as that.


Or how about I threaten nuclear action and send even more forces do that me and RI outnumber you!?


Do you really think that your combined militaries outnumber me? I easily have 3.7 Million ACTIVE Military. That's not counting Reserves that can be called up if needed. That is also not counting my nuclear arsenal that would be used in retaliatory attacks against your country, which number in the tens of thousands of independent warheads that I can rain down on you from not only imperial land stations but also submarines and aircraft launched ones as well.

And I don't know what's with you all and immediately threatening nuclear actions. It's a sign of weak RPing ability, to be honest.
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Postby Phenyzia » Sat Aug 06, 2022 9:04 pm

Shazbotdom wrote:
Awesome Imperium wrote:
Or how about I threaten nuclear action and send even more forces do that me and RI outnumber you!?


Do you really think that your combined militaries outnumber me? I easily have 3.7 Million ACTIVE Military. That's not counting Reserves that can be called up if needed. That is also not counting my nuclear arsenal that would be used in retaliatory attacks against your country, which number in the tens of thousands of independent warheads that I can rain down on you from not only imperial land stations but also submarines and aircraft launched ones as well.

And I don't know what's with you all and immediately threatening nuclear actions. It's a sign of weak RPing ability, to be honest.


3.7 million? That's cute.

Regardless, I did almost forget about this thread, time to unleash drone-based hell.
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Postby Shazbotdom » Sat Aug 06, 2022 9:10 pm

Phenyzia wrote:
Shazbotdom wrote:
Do you really think that your combined militaries outnumber me? I easily have 3.7 Million ACTIVE Military. That's not counting Reserves that can be called up if needed. That is also not counting my nuclear arsenal that would be used in retaliatory attacks against your country, which number in the tens of thousands of independent warheads that I can rain down on you from not only imperial land stations but also submarines and aircraft launched ones as well.

And I don't know what's with you all and immediately threatening nuclear actions. It's a sign of weak RPing ability, to be honest.


3.7 million? That's cute.

Regardless, I did almost forget about this thread, time to unleash drone-based hell.


I mean, we like to focus on training, not throwing half-assed trained troops into war to try and overwhelm an opposition. Very few wars are won by overwhelming force.
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Postby Phenyzia » Sat Aug 06, 2022 9:15 pm

Shazbotdom wrote:
Phenyzia wrote:
3.7 million? That's cute.

Regardless, I did almost forget about this thread, time to unleash drone-based hell.


I mean, we like to focus on training, not throwing half-assed trained troops into war to try and overwhelm an opposition. Very few wars are won by overwhelming force.


I was mostly pointing out the numerical superiority thing. The Phenyzian military can only be described as stupid large. Sure the equipment may suck and poorly trained conscripts may not have the highest survival rate but if there's one thing the empire is good at it's throwing a lot of bodies at a problem.
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Postby Shazbotdom » Sat Aug 06, 2022 9:16 pm

Phenyzia wrote:
Shazbotdom wrote:
I mean, we like to focus on training, not throwing half-assed trained troops into war to try and overwhelm an opposition. Very few wars are won by overwhelming force.


I was mostly pointing out the numerical superiority thing. The Phenyzian military can only be described as stupid large. Sure the equipment may suck and poorly trained conscripts may not have the highest survival rate but if there's one thing the empire is good at it's throwing a lot of bodies at a problem.


And how many times has that actually worked against an actual RPer who is really good at RPing?
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Postby Phenyzia » Sat Aug 06, 2022 9:23 pm

Shazbotdom wrote:
Phenyzia wrote:
I was mostly pointing out the numerical superiority thing. The Phenyzian military can only be described as stupid large. Sure the equipment may suck and poorly trained conscripts may not have the highest survival rate but if there's one thing the empire is good at it's throwing a lot of bodies at a problem.


And how many times has that actually worked against an actual RPer who is really good at RPing?


I very rarely get to fight proper land wars so I couldn't tell you.
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Postby Guadalupador » Sat Aug 06, 2022 9:24 pm

Phenyzia wrote:
Shazbotdom wrote:
Do you really think that your combined militaries outnumber me? I easily have 3.7 Million ACTIVE Military. That's not counting Reserves that can be called up if needed. That is also not counting my nuclear arsenal that would be used in retaliatory attacks against your country, which number in the tens of thousands of independent warheads that I can rain down on you from not only imperial land stations but also submarines and aircraft launched ones as well.

And I don't know what's with you all and immediately threatening nuclear actions. It's a sign of weak RPing ability, to be honest.


3.7 million? That's cute.

Regardless, I did almost forget about this thread, time to unleash drone-based hell.

I thought you weren't into RPing that much anymore.
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Postby Phenyzia » Sat Aug 06, 2022 9:28 pm

Guadalupador wrote:
Phenyzia wrote:
3.7 million? That's cute.

Regardless, I did almost forget about this thread, time to unleash drone-based hell.

I thought you weren't into RPing that much anymore.


That was almost a month ago, after CIS started being an absolute clusterfuck with one founder throwing around nukes and another founder having civil war/regime change #229873

Now? First I'm gonna take care of some wars and then refound CIS again fully under my control, or perhaps RI as well, because apparently if I don't do it myself CIS just doesn't function.
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Postby Shazbotdom » Sat Aug 06, 2022 10:20 pm

Phenyzia wrote:
Shazbotdom wrote:
And how many times has that actually worked against an actual RPer who is really good at RPing?


I very rarely get to fight proper land wars so I couldn't tell you.


So 0 wins, then.

In my time here, I've defeated several RPers in ground-based wars. Many of them date all the way back to the Jolt forums. I've RPed with some of the best to play the game. The Kraven Corporation, AutoMagFreek, Dephire, etc.

Nothing and I mean nothing, beats precision strikes against high-value targets on the ground before you use superior weaponry and tactics with smaller numbers to annihilate the enemy.
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Postby Guadalupador » Sun Aug 07, 2022 12:10 pm

Romanic Imperium wrote:Just to tell things. My coast has been updated time and time agian. The only weak part is the British coast. But Normandy and all that is heavily fortified with anti air, anti sub, and anti ship

The coast of both France and Britain were targeted by the second salvo Marasalian missiles following the attack on your fleet in the channel in a previous post.
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Postby Guadalupador » Sun Aug 07, 2022 12:13 pm

Awesome Imperium wrote:
Shazbotdom wrote:I'm seriously just about to indiscriminately bomb any military forces on the ground there. You can't just deploy forces and suddenly fully fortify a position in a matter of hours. That takes WEEKS to do. And, if you are in a war zone, you are a free target. Especially if you are assisting an enemy of the Empire and the IFC.

Don't want to get fired at? leave the area. It's as simple as that.


Or how about I threaten nuclear action and send even more forces do that me and RI outnumber you!?

Also, RI and I talked on discord and he said that he has no recollection of allowing your ground forces within his territory, and that the both of you don't share any bases. He didn't approve them operating within his territory either.
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Postby Undemocacy » Sun Aug 07, 2022 2:32 pm

does any one know why my previous post was removed?
is war profiteering not allowed or would it be better suited on the IC one?
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Postby Seorabeol Federation » Sun Aug 07, 2022 2:37 pm

Undemocacy wrote:does any one know why my previous post was removed?
is war profiteering not allowed or would it be better suited on the IC one?


I didn't know the post had been removed. I just found out.
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Postby Undemocacy » Sun Aug 07, 2022 2:45 pm

I posted one after this one, but its gone now

Shazbotdom wrote:
Phenyzia wrote:
I very rarely get to fight proper land wars so I couldn't tell you.


So 0 wins, then.

In my time here, I've defeated several RPers in ground-based wars. Many of them date all the way back to the Jolt forums. I've RPed with some of the best to play the game. The Kraven Corporation, AutoMagFreek, Dephire, etc.

Nothing and I mean nothing, beats precision strikes against high-value targets on the ground before you use superior weaponry and tactics with smaller numbers to annihilate the enemy.
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Postby Shazbotdom » Sun Aug 07, 2022 2:49 pm

Undemocacy wrote:I posted one after this one, but its gone now

Shazbotdom wrote:
So 0 wins, then.

In my time here, I've defeated several RPers in ground-based wars. Many of them date all the way back to the Jolt forums. I've RPed with some of the best to play the game. The Kraven Corporation, AutoMagFreek, Dephire, etc.

Nothing and I mean nothing, beats precision strikes against high-value targets on the ground before you use superior weaponry and tactics with smaller numbers to annihilate the enemy.


I will not allow this thread to be used for hocking your weapons from your storefront. I requested it be removed in Moderation.
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