A Storm of Swords (OOC/Invite Only/ATTN: RI/AI)

[Shazbotdom]

This is the OOC Thread for the conflict thread A Storm of Swords.


Those involved are the following:
International Freedom Coalition
Concord of Independent States


Please keep all OCC Talk within this thread and all IC Talk within the IC Thread

[New Roma Republic]

Thank you Shaz for making this

[Romanic Imperium]

Yeah thanks

[Guadalupador]

Really needed this. I’ll have a post coming soon. Stand by

[Romanic Imperium]

I also have a post coming soon

[Undemocacy]

can some one explain to me what this is about?

[Sebrenskiya]

sigh

My first post in the OOC i promised like half a week ago is to neutralize someone's post.

"Your Majesty, Marsillian forces have launched aircraft against the RIA fleet who is in a dire situation, Phenizia has joined the conflict but this would only escalate it on the global scale." Reported Supreme Chancellor Wren Valora.
Julia "What!? how many carriers do we have in the area?"
Wren "Only the AIA Vengence and its capacity is 70+ aircraft."
Julia "We need to call a War council. Get the Consuls, Praetors, President, Prime Minister, and meet me at the Snowflake."
Wren "Yes your Majesty."

So the point of an RP is to tell a story first, even if there's a competitive element (read: no clear outcome pre-decided), the first goal of any RP is to tell a story. Phenyzia has made no public claim to have joined the effort, nor did it ICly state that it was maneuvering forces in support. This knowledge is OOC knowledge with nowhere in the IC for there to be a way that AI knows this information. In this post, you just already know it. You don't tell us how, and there's no element to tell us how, you skip a plot point that may seem minor but is actually pretty significant in determining how aware AI actually is of what is happening around them.

Wren "Marisillia has launched aircraft against RIA and is beginning to attack Romanic Legions in Britannia. We've also gotten word from other IFC nations and Phenyzia entering the conflicts."

Ignoring the significant and egregious spelling errors, these events are literally happening in the most recent post and RI has yet to respond to them to provide this communication in any way. IFC states who are already present in theatre may know about this, but IFC states who are not in the immediate area of this incident are not going to be 100% aware of this situation. Its a concept that we know as "Fog of War", where the only people who really knows whats going on is who's there, as it takes time for this information to disseminate through the commands. Even non-military witnesses won't be exactly sure what's going on.

They may have more ships but they probably don't have more advanced or ships of the same power, Plus our ships rival theirs in technology and power and we also have the home turf advantage, the Imperial Avian Force has more than enough planes in the area to do a large raid on their ships and maybe even sink some and we can also use the WSP-SWARM systems to attack them with large numbers of drones, We can also send 12 Vigilance class supercarriers which would gain us Naval and Air superiority since we should have a total of 142 ships in the area, most of the Cruisers and Subs have hypersonic missiles which we could use to attack IFC forces the same way they attacked RIA forces."

This seems quite a bit too specific for the level that you are speaking at. I guess its fine, but you have yet to determine how many ships are in theatre, something that should probably be crucial. I would suggest instead maybe pressing contacts in the RI navy to see exactly whats going on, maybe doing some kind of reconnaissance. I say this because 142 ships is actually lesser than what's already present in theatre (Marasalia fields 75 ships in theatre, GRCS has ~90 in theatre, and Battlegroup Atlantis is also in there at some size level). There's a lot of implications here that are not actually grounded in whats going on, and again, you just seem to know this information somehow.

Kameron "Praefect!, new orders from CIC: Send warning to Marisillian Forces Cese hostilities at once or the Imperium will intervene.
Varus "What are you waiting for! Send the warning."

Varus GFNS Sol Vera this is that AIA Polaris, we demand you cease hostilities at once or the AIA 4rth and 5th fleets will intervene."

I'm actually going to go as far as voiding this section of your post. There's about several dozen things that are impossible and unrealistic about these just a few sentences, including the incorrect spelling.

FIRSTLY the ship you named is not a Marasalian Ship. Marasalian ships have the prefix MNS. SECONDLY, the ship you named is a submarine, which is far far far far far outside of your possible detection range. I'm not individually sure that you've exactly spotted a ship (a claim that RI has not made despite having already taken a few dozen missiles to the face), let alone the entire battle group (which is practicing a concept known as fleet spacing, in which ships can be several or dozens of nautical miles apart to avoid enemy ships or reconnaissance from being able to locate the entire group in one fell swoop). Additionally, while you've not actually indicated how you've found these ships, you've also not indicated how you know the ship you think you're looking at isn't a decoy of some kind. Again, this is a significant plot point which has been ignored.

Finally, based on everything I've read, there is no way on God's green earth that you would be capable of identifying any single ship. You could identify "hostile" ships, "unknown" ships, and maybe get a gist of its classification based on size, but there's no way you could name the ship at long range detection ranges. Calling a ship out by name is not individually plausible under most circumstances unless you are in boarding ranges and can read the hull numbers and have the information to that readily available.

Comms Officer "Admiral,l CIC orders, AIA Polaris has sent the Warning Transmission, prepare for war.
Admiral Shaw "Have the others get the signal?"
Comms Officer "Yes sir."
Admiral Shaw "Then battle stations everyone prepare for war!

This is a relatively minor nitpick, but this isn't quite how this would work in any context. The above voiding makes this section moot, but if you are to have come across a Marasalian or Roman or GRCS or Dorian ship, your correct response would be

General Quarters General Quarters. All Hands to Battlestations. Unidentified warship detected

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I welcome you to actually come and write a story, and help the Romanic Imperium out. But these posts are below what one would call subpar, and venture heavily into both lazy writing and godmodding territory. I do not want to have to ban you from this thread, but I will do so if it will keep the flow of RP consistent with elements of a story. Romanic Imperium is in a tight spot and you are the closest nation to be able to assist at this time, but you are building a conflict which is happening concurrently with the Imperion Coalition's attack against the CIS, and godmodding and lazy writing will just increase toxicity. I suppose consider this an unofficial thread warning.

[Awesome Imperium]

Ok then most of the post is voided except for the Order of Battle and the Plan to attack.

[The United Remnants of America]

Thank God finally

[The United Remnants of America]

can some one explain to me what this is about?

This is an OOC thread.

[Sebrenskiya]

Ok then most of the post is voided except for the Order of Battle and the Plan to attack.

I would actually prefer if you deleted the post and re-did it correctly, if I'm honest.

the good news about an OOC thread being present for this conflict specifically is that you can ask specific questions about writing. There are plenty of people who are willing to help with writing and keeping things somewhat realistic.

[Sebrenskiya]

can some one explain to me what this is about?

this particular conflict is based on the International Freedom Coalition coming to cull the Concord of Independent States (a cool name tbh) based on a series of aggresively imperialistic and downright genocidal affairs which can be located on the Global Affairs thread by South Americanastan.

The premise of the conflict so far is that a Marasalian Missile Cruiser under a Carrier Strike Group to the west of Romanic Imperium held France/UK falsified a missile attack against it to serve as causus belli for the IFC to attack the Romanic Imperium, who has invaded the Isle of Great Britain but has yet to fully secure it. Because this specific carrier strike group was not in range of any allied radar detection, it comes down to who believes who. Naturally, the IFC believes that Marasalia was attacked, and the CIS believes that Marasalia fired first.

[Awesome Imperium]

can some one explain to me what this is about?

this particular conflict is based on the International Freedom Coalition coming to cull the Concord of Independent States (a cool name tbh) based on a series of aggresively imperialistic and downright genocidal affairs which can be located on the Global Affairs thread by South Americanastan.

The premise of the conflict so far is that a Marasalian Missile Cruiser under a Carrier Strike Group to the west of Romanic Imperium held France/UK falsified a missile attack against it to serve as causus belli for the IFC to attack the Romanic Imperium, who has invaded the Isle of Great Britain but has yet to fully secure it. Because this specific carrier strike group was not in range of any allied radar detection, it comes down to who believes who. Naturally, the IFC believes that Marasalia was attacked, and the CIS believes that Marasalia fired first.

Wait why did you choose RI specifically out of all the CIS members?

[Sebrenskiya]

this particular conflict is based on the International Freedom Coalition coming to cull the Concord of Independent States (a cool name tbh) based on a series of aggresively imperialistic and downright genocidal affairs which can be located on the Global Affairs thread by South Americanastan.

The premise of the conflict so far is that a Marasalian Missile Cruiser under a Carrier Strike Group to the west of Romanic Imperium held France/UK falsified a missile attack against it to serve as causus belli for the IFC to attack the Romanic Imperium, who has invaded the Isle of Great Britain but has yet to fully secure it. Because this specific carrier strike group was not in range of any allied radar detection, it comes down to who believes who. Naturally, the IFC believes that Marasalia was attacked, and the CIS believes that Marasalia fired first.

Wait why did you choose RI specifically out of all the CIS members?

(un)luck of the draw.

We were going to do something similar to Phenyzia, but Phenyzia didn't bite (and completely stopped responding) so we moved on to someone who seemed more receptive.

[Awesome Imperium]

Wait why did you choose RI specifically out of all the CIS members?

(un)luck of the draw.

We were going to do something similar to Phenyzia, but Phenyzia didn't bite (and completely stopped responding) so we moved on to someone who seemed more receptive.

You do know the Roman Empire (me and RI) can get TPA, B-V Pact, and CIS on this right? Then you would be hopelessly outnumbered by multiple nuclear-armed superpowers and nations with strong militaries.

[Undemocacy]

I have two questions:
are WMDs allowed?
and
can I use my Etrout?
https://www.nationstates.net/nation=und ... id=1660857

[The United Remnants of America]

(un)luck of the draw.

We were going to do something similar to Phenyzia, but Phenyzia didn't bite (and completely stopped responding) so we moved on to someone who seemed more receptive.

You do know the Roman Empire (me and RI) can get TPA, B-V Pact, and CIS on this right? Then you would be hopelessly outnumbered by multiple nuclear-armed superpowers and nations with strong militaries.

You say nuclear as if nobody has WMDs.

If you want to test MAD, go ahead. I don't have nuclear weapons, but other nations do. I'll just Kessler you and do the same thing.

[Sebrenskiya]

I have two questions:
are WMDs allowed?
and
can I use my Etrout?
https://www.nationstates.net/nation=und ... id=1660857

ok who are you exactly?

[Sebrenskiya]

(un)luck of the draw.

We were going to do something similar to Phenyzia, but Phenyzia didn't bite (and completely stopped responding) so we moved on to someone who seemed more receptive.

You do know the Roman Empire (me and RI) can get TPA, B-V Pact, and CIS on this right? Then you would be hopelessly outnumbered by multiple nuclear-armed superpowers and nations with strong militaries.

BVP doesn't seem like its actually important
who actually even is TPA
CIS is literally being attacked by the Imperion Coalition at the same time. Who's outnumbering who here?

Ultimately, we're here because we wanted a story, I'm not here for OOC shenanigans. If you want to get a bunch of inactive nations together to try and fight off the IFC you are more than welcome to try.

[Undemocacy]

I have two questions:
are WMDs allowed?
and
can I use my Etrout?
https://www.nationstates.net/nation=und ... id=1660857

ok who are you exactly?

I Am a member of the Concord of Independent States.

[Sebrenskiya]

ok who are you exactly?

I Am a member of the Concord of Independent States.

sigh

Ok, no, WMDs will generally not be allowed unless it reasonably fits into the story.
And augmented trout is somehow both demented and FanT, which is outside of the tech range of this arc.

[Romanic Imperium]

ok who are you exactly?

I Am a member of the Concord of Independent States.

FELLOW LENI MEMBER WELCOME THE MAFIOSO IS UNDER ATTACK

[Phenyzia]

Wait why did you choose RI specifically out of all the CIS members?

(un)luck of the draw.

We were going to do something similar to Phenyzia, but Phenyzia didn't bite (and completely stopped responding) so we moved on to someone who seemed more receptive.

To clarify that was right around the time I was getting admittedly quite annoyed about the piling up people did and decided to take a break for roughly 2 weeks. Apologies for leaving you and Shaz just hanging there suddenly.

[Awesome Imperium]

You do know the Roman Empire (me and RI) can get TPA, B-V Pact, and CIS on this right? Then you would be hopelessly outnumbered by multiple nuclear-armed superpowers and nations with strong militaries.

BVP doesn't seem like its actually important
who actually even is TPA
CIS is literally being attacked by the Imperion Coalition at the same time. Who's outnumbering who here?

Ultimately, we're here because we wanted a story, I'm not here for OOC shenanigans. If you want to get a bunch of inactive nations together to try and fight off the IFC you are more than welcome to try.

Well if you do win ro you plan on taking any territory from RI.

[New Roma Republic]

BVP doesn't seem like its actually important
who actually even is TPA
CIS is literally being attacked by the Imperion Coalition at the same time. Who's outnumbering who here?

Ultimately, we're here because we wanted a story, I'm not here for OOC shenanigans. If you want to get a bunch of inactive nations together to try and fight off the IFC you are more than welcome to try.

Well if you do win ro you plan on taking any territory from RI.

No. We're not evil colonial nations