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Gothian Crimea
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Postby Gothian Crimea » Tue Jun 14, 2022 7:01 pm

Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
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I know IHC was never officially involved, but I guess I could hold a vote on whether or not we could begin operations in Eastern Anatolia. Perhaps we could all meet in Tsolakert and discuss the future of Turkey?


Sounds like something agreeable. Although Gonswanza still does not quite exist in my canon due to them being FT.

I’m not super familiar with them but how are they FT?
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Postby Zarnicovia nova » Tue Jun 14, 2022 7:02 pm

Mets Hayk wrote:
Zarnicovia nova wrote:YOU didn’t directly kill them but YOUR actions resulted in their deaths. So basically That’s like bombing a bridge, the bomb kills no one but the bridge collapsing kills a lot of people. Your argument is that the bomb never directly killed anyone. Also the cult killed 70% of people in that war so don’t blame AZNUP for the deaths in the ZN war.

I did not say ‘no reason’ I said many people said 1 squad of dead peacekeepers doesn’t justify a full-scale invasion under any circumstances.


Hence why I put "and their lackies".

The attack on OUR peacekeepers was not only an attack on Armenia; but on ALL of the IHC; an attack on a completely NEUTRAL side. Seems like an act of aggression to me. As such, the invasion WAS justified.

20 dead SOLDIERS definitely justifies a war that leads to the slaughter over 10 million civilians.
Tho I’ll give you it you didn’t know the exact number that would die and had reason to believe it could be even higher with the fact that AZNUP had and still has nukes.

Cultists. Are. Not. And. Will. Never. Be. AZNUP. Allies. They have:
1. Killed AZNUP leaders
2. Attacked the Zarnicovian church
3. Killed millions of Zarnicovian Novans

They are not AZNUP. They are their own side in this conflict
Diplomacy: Tensions decrease between KTO and GCN. AZNUP puts foward ZN hold negiotations | politics: Protests in many states have quite following strong AZNUP response | economy: New Zeeland stock exchange keeps falling now by 42.3% as AZNUP looks to try and fix multiple economic issues. Debt continues to rise.

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Postby Southeast Marajarbia » Tue Jun 14, 2022 7:05 pm

Gothian Crimea wrote:
Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
Sounds like something agreeable. Although Gonswanza still does not quite exist in my canon due to them being FT.

I’m not super familiar with them but how are they FT?


They just have a confusing and very conflicting timeline full of events that usually involve post-PMT bordering on FT tech in events that aren't exactly canon to the main timeline this entire group uses. These events were far enough that very few people actually pay attention to their posts. A minority of players do still acknowledge their posts nowadays, but I certainly do not, and neither do my closest allies, such as IHS.
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Postby The Military State of the Galapagos » Tue Jun 14, 2022 7:08 pm

So can we talk about the treaty now?
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Postby Southeast Marajarbia » Tue Jun 14, 2022 7:09 pm

The Military State of the Galapagos wrote:So can we talk about the treaty now?


I say let's wait for the OP. It seems fair to wait considering the circumstances and possibility of TCS being one of their puppets.
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Postby Reich of the New World Order » Tue Jun 14, 2022 7:11 pm

Why not let Aegeonia just annex the remains of TCS. They suffered enough and deserve that land.
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Postby Zarnicovia nova » Tue Jun 14, 2022 7:12 pm

Zarnicovia nova wrote:
Mets Hayk wrote:
They'd heard the roars of the engines before they'd seen them. Their tanks bore the ensign of the Reich of the New World Order, yet ANOTHER nation with a disregard for the lives. Even more so than the Zarnicovian Novans; they embodied the human condition. Twas cruelty; not faith nor glory that had fed their lustful greed. And now, they stood; facing these marauders. Pillaging barbarians not too unlike the Huns, or perhaps even the Mongols. After all; their type are only after one thing: power. Absoulte, unquestioned power. It was in their nature, after all. Satan had opened a gaping portal to Hell, and these were but his minions.

"HALT! HALT!"

The screams of peacekeepers erupted as they slowly approached the convoy, their rifles trained on these...careless fools. Men who'd fought for nothing, and were willing to die for NOTHING.

"Bucharest is under the jurisdiction of the International Humanitarian Coalition and her government allies. Disperse immediately!"

Taking advantage of the chaos in the south of Romania the Zarnicovian Novans and their allied militias would declare the Autonomus Peoples Republic of Northern Bessarabia in small parts of Moldova. They'd organize relatively free and fair elections with the Social Democratic canidate of the People's Party winning. ZN forces would see more general deployments across Moldova and Romania following IHC actions as the ZN army seeing the IHC occupy cities decided to condemn the IHC as 'just occupying land not as an agreesor but as a fake peacekeeper'.

1 squad, 8 men would be to land in central Bucharest and secure the cultural heritage. With airsupport the troops stormed 2 building in the center of the city declaring them to be cultural protection regions. The elite troops helping a few locals arm themself and defend the places themselfs as the ZN airforce continue a campaign of bombing both IHC and Reich troops that threatened the building as they slowly got the cultural artifacts out and into The Autonomus Peoples Republic of Northern Bessarabia.

Also I am known for being unable to read well but where is AZNUP in here?
Diplomacy: Tensions decrease between KTO and GCN. AZNUP puts foward ZN hold negiotations | politics: Protests in many states have quite following strong AZNUP response | economy: New Zeeland stock exchange keeps falling now by 42.3% as AZNUP looks to try and fix multiple economic issues. Debt continues to rise.

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Postby The Military State of the Galapagos » Tue Jun 14, 2022 7:12 pm

Reich of the New World Order wrote:Why not let Aegeonia just annex the remains of TCS. They suffered enough and deserve that land.

I don’t care about territory gains I’m talking about the neutrality
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Postby Mets Hayk » Tue Jun 14, 2022 7:13 pm

Reich of the New World Order wrote:Why not let Aegeonia just annex the remains of TCS. They suffered enough and deserve that land.


I'm keeping the lands I've annexed. The Armenian Genocide still occurred canonically, and I think this is a sort of "ultimate" punishment - per se.
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Postby Mets Hayk » Tue Jun 14, 2022 7:14 pm

Zarnicovia nova wrote:
Zarnicovia nova wrote:Taking advantage of the chaos in the south of Romania the Zarnicovian Novans and their allied militias would declare the Autonomus Peoples Republic of Northern Bessarabia in small parts of Moldova. They'd organize relatively free and fair elections with the Social Democratic canidate of the People's Party winning. ZN forces would see more general deployments across Moldova and Romania following IHC actions as the ZN army seeing the IHC occupy cities decided to condemn the IHC as 'just occupying land not as an agreesor but as a fake peacekeeper'.

1 squad, 8 men would be to land in central Bucharest and secure the cultural heritage. With airsupport the troops stormed 2 building in the center of the city declaring them to be cultural protection regions. The elite troops helping a few locals arm themself and defend the places themselfs as the ZN airforce continue a campaign of bombing both IHC and Reich troops that threatened the building as they slowly got the cultural artifacts out and into The Autonomus Peoples Republic of Northern Bessarabia.

Also I am known for being unable to read well but where is AZNUP in here?


AZNUP effectively runs Zarnicovia Nova, correct? Therefore - who's to say these soldiers weren't supporters of said group?
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Postby Gonswanza » Tue Jun 14, 2022 7:15 pm

Mets Hayk wrote:
Reich of the New World Order wrote:Why not let Aegeonia just annex the remains of TCS. They suffered enough and deserve that land.


I'm keeping the lands I've annexed. The Armenian Genocide still occurred canonically, and I think this is a sort of "ultimate" punishment - per se.

True, true.

Also how the hell does this concern AZNUP when they never got involved in the first place, short of the refugee crisis?
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Postby Reich of the New World Order » Tue Jun 14, 2022 7:15 pm

Mets Hayk wrote:
Reich of the New World Order wrote:Why not let Aegeonia just annex the remains of TCS. They suffered enough and deserve that land.


I'm keeping the lands I've annexed. The Armenian Genocide still occurred canonically, and I think this is a sort of "ultimate" punishment - per se.


I said remains, what you took is rightfully yours


The Military State of the Galapagos wrote:
Reich of the New World Order wrote:Why not let Aegeonia just annex the remains of TCS. They suffered enough and deserve that land.

I don’t care about territory gains I’m talking about the neutrality



Aegeonia is a KTO member, them being neutral wouldn't benefit you.
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Postby Mets Hayk » Tue Jun 14, 2022 7:16 pm

Gonswanza wrote:
Mets Hayk wrote:
I'm keeping the lands I've annexed. The Armenian Genocide still occurred canonically, and I think this is a sort of "ultimate" punishment - per se.

True, true.

Also how the hell does this concern AZNUP when they never got involved in the first place, short of the refugee crisis?


ZN just wants to frame the IHC as "evil", so it seems. Otherwise; it doesn't.
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Postby Zarnicovia nova » Tue Jun 14, 2022 7:18 pm

Mets Hayk wrote:
Zarnicovia nova wrote:Also I am known for being unable to read well but where is AZNUP in here?


AZNUP effectively runs Zarnicovia Nova, correct? Therefore - who's to say these soldiers weren't supporters of said group?

At this time: Their rule was extremely decentralized. ZN was a federal ‘republic’ militias and the church had large if not complete sway over AZNUP. AZNUP was run by the strong man of Long who led a nationalist way following defeat by the hands of SO. The military was not under much rule by AZNUP. AZNUP primarily had rule threw voter discrimination, gerrymandering and appeasing the militias/church. Not totalitarian means.
Diplomacy: Tensions decrease between KTO and GCN. AZNUP puts foward ZN hold negiotations | politics: Protests in many states have quite following strong AZNUP response | economy: New Zeeland stock exchange keeps falling now by 42.3% as AZNUP looks to try and fix multiple economic issues. Debt continues to rise.

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Postby The Military State of the Galapagos » Tue Jun 14, 2022 7:21 pm

Reich of the New World Order wrote:
Mets Hayk wrote:
I'm keeping the lands I've annexed. The Armenian Genocide still occurred canonically, and I think this is a sort of "ultimate" punishment - per se.


I said remains, what you took is rightfully yours


The Military State of the Galapagos wrote:

I don’t care about territory gains I’m talking about the neutrality



Aegeonia is a KTO member, them being neutral wouldn't benefit you.

I know SM wants them to be
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Postby Reich of the New World Order » Tue Jun 14, 2022 7:22 pm

The Military State of the Galapagos wrote:
Reich of the New World Order wrote:
I said remains, what you took is rightfully yours





Aegeonia is a KTO member, them being neutral wouldn't benefit you.

I know SM wants them to be


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Postby The Military State of the Galapagos » Tue Jun 14, 2022 7:24 pm

Reich of the New World Order wrote:
The Military State of the Galapagos wrote:I know SM wants them to be


He has no say in other nations foreign affairs

Exactly
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Postby Southeast Marajarbia » Tue Jun 14, 2022 7:25 pm

The Military State of the Galapagos wrote:
Reich of the New World Order wrote:
I said remains, what you took is rightfully yours





Aegeonia is a KTO member, them being neutral wouldn't benefit you.

I know SM wants them to be


Oh? And what is wrong with neutrality? In fact, what would be wrong with holding a referendum on wether or not they become neutral. I say that if KTO wants them to stay in KTO that a referendum be held.
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Postby Janpia » Tue Jun 14, 2022 7:29 pm

Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
The Military State of the Galapagos wrote:I know SM wants them to be


Oh? And what is wrong with neutrality? In fact, what would be wrong with holding a referendum on wether or not they become neutral. I say that if KTO wants them to stay in KTO that a referendum be held.


Looks like someone havent read KTO articles. Plus, we acted as stated on Article I. What gives you the right to remove Aegeonia from KTO? No referendum unless the Aegeonia Government said it itself

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Postby Southeast Marajarbia » Tue Jun 14, 2022 7:31 pm

Janpia wrote:
Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
Oh? And what is wrong with neutrality? In fact, what would be wrong with holding a referendum on wether or not they become neutral. I say that if KTO wants them to stay in KTO that a referendum be held.


Looks like someone havent read KTO articles. Plus, we acted as stated on Article I. What gives you the right to remove Aegeonia from KTO? No referendum unless the Aegeonia Government said it itself


Then we just wait. It's that simple.
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Postby The Military State of the Galapagos » Tue Jun 14, 2022 7:32 pm

Janpia wrote:
Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
Oh? And what is wrong with neutrality? In fact, what would be wrong with holding a referendum on wether or not they become neutral. I say that if KTO wants them to stay in KTO that a referendum be held.


Looks like someone havent read KTO articles. Plus, we acted as stated on Article I. What gives you the right to remove Aegeonia from KTO? No referendum unless the Aegeonia Government said it itself

And Article XII stating that they have to alert us before they leave
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Postby Phenyzia » Tue Jun 14, 2022 7:32 pm

Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
Janpia wrote:
Looks like someone havent read KTO articles. Plus, we acted as stated on Article I. What gives you the right to remove Aegeonia from KTO? No referendum unless the Aegeonia Government said it itself


Then we just wait. It's that simple.


Perhaps we could as a compromise instead add a non-communist turkey to the GENA if Aegonia remains in KTO?
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Postby Zarnicovia nova » Tue Jun 14, 2022 7:33 pm

Mets Hayk wrote:
Zarnicovia nova wrote:Also I am known for being unable to read well but where is AZNUP in here?


AZNUP effectively runs Zarnicovia Nova, correct? Therefore - who's to say these soldiers weren't supporters of said group?

This operation was small enough it would have been run by a lieutenant. A lieutenant… sure he may have been an AZNUP supporter.
Diplomacy: Tensions decrease between KTO and GCN. AZNUP puts foward ZN hold negiotations | politics: Protests in many states have quite following strong AZNUP response | economy: New Zeeland stock exchange keeps falling now by 42.3% as AZNUP looks to try and fix multiple economic issues. Debt continues to rise.

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Postby Southeast Marajarbia » Tue Jun 14, 2022 7:34 pm

Phenyzia wrote:
Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
Then we just wait. It's that simple.


Perhaps we could as a compromise instead add a non-communist turkey to the GENA if Aegonia remains in KTO?


Nah. Not really. As stated already in the treaty Turkey can't join either or.
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Postby Janpia » Tue Jun 14, 2022 7:35 pm

Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
Phenyzia wrote:
Perhaps we could as a compromise instead add a non-communist turkey to the GENA if Aegonia remains in KTO?


Nah. Not really. As stated already in the treaty Turkey can't join either or.


If your saying about Aegeonia, then it is KTO. Tho as for Turkey, its gonna be divided up anyway

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