And like I said, another GENA[/quote[
Kinda, but it doesn't have like 5 predecessors
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by Aursi » Sun Jun 19, 2022 6:58 am

by Southeast Marajarbia » Sun Jun 19, 2022 7:01 am

by Southeast Marajarbia » Sun Jun 19, 2022 7:04 am
Gonswanza wrote:Honestly, even if he (somehow) manages to build his little empire, nobody will recognize it, and infighting will ensue, it's bound to self-destruct as yet another useless body that had attempted to do the same. He's not the first, nor would he be the last.

by Southeast Marajarbia » Sun Jun 19, 2022 8:00 am
New Roma Republic wrote:(Image)Roman Senate Debates IFC Resolution 27a
New Rome, NRI – The controversial Resolution 27, which was edited into 27a, is the subject of debate in today’s Senate session. Members of the minority party, the Liberal Party, argued that the Conservative Party’s support of Resolution 27a is not necessary as those previsions are covered in Resolution 26. Party leadership also announced that they have a proposal for the next IFC resolution.
This resolution, which is being debated in the senate, will emphasize diplomacy, according to someone familiar with the resolution. This will shift the IFC’s current stance which has remained isolationist. The liberal Senators want the IFC to open lines of dialogue with all alliances. This will better facilitate diplomacy among alliances to prevent wars. Many liberals also hope that this will prevent conflict in the future.
The current party in power, the Conservative Party, has taken a hard line against alliances that harbor non-democratic nations. The liberals have been outspoken on this issue, as has the second minority party the Transhumanists. There are rumors that the Liberals and Transhumanists may be in talks to create a coalition government. The conservative party has 59 seats while the liberals and transhumanists have 39 and 25 respectively. Should they create a coalition, with will elect a Praetor that will oppose the Caesar and work to push their agenda.

by Southeast Marajarbia » Sun Jun 19, 2022 8:03 am

by New Roma Republic » Sun Jun 19, 2022 8:05 am
Southeast Marajarbia wrote:New Roma Republic wrote:(Image)Roman Senate Debates IFC Resolution 27a
New Rome, NRI – The controversial Resolution 27, which was edited into 27a, is the subject of debate in today’s Senate session. Members of the minority party, the Liberal Party, argued that the Conservative Party’s support of Resolution 27a is not necessary as those previsions are covered in Resolution 26. Party leadership also announced that they have a proposal for the next IFC resolution.
This resolution, which is being debated in the senate, will emphasize diplomacy, according to someone familiar with the resolution. This will shift the IFC’s current stance which has remained isolationist. The liberal Senators want the IFC to open lines of dialogue with all alliances. This will better facilitate diplomacy among alliances to prevent wars. Many liberals also hope that this will prevent conflict in the future.
The current party in power, the Conservative Party, has taken a hard line against alliances that harbor non-democratic nations. The liberals have been outspoken on this issue, as has the second minority party the Transhumanists. There are rumors that the Liberals and Transhumanists may be in talks to create a coalition government. The conservative party has 59 seats while the liberals and transhumanists have 39 and 25 respectively. Should they create a coalition, with will elect a Praetor that will oppose the Caesar and work to push their agenda.
Huh. Well this certainly explains why you signed up for my embassy program earlier.

by Southeast Marajarbia » Sun Jun 19, 2022 8:05 am

by New Roma Republic » Sun Jun 19, 2022 8:06 am

by Southeast Marajarbia » Sun Jun 19, 2022 8:07 am

by New Roma Republic » Sun Jun 19, 2022 8:09 am

by Southeast Marajarbia » Sun Jun 19, 2022 8:13 am
New Roma Republic wrote:Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
But you are opening up to diplomacy with it, no?
tbh, I'd like to think the embassy opening would be retconned to a while ago.
But the diplomacy debate in the Senate is an alliance to alliance level thing, not a nation to nation. Plus the liberals who want that don't have much say over the foreign policy atm since they don't have a majority in the Senate

by New Roma Republic » Sun Jun 19, 2022 8:16 am
Southeast Marajarbia wrote:New Roma Republic wrote:
tbh, I'd like to think the embassy opening would be retconned to a while ago.
But the diplomacy debate in the Senate is an alliance to alliance level thing, not a nation to nation. Plus the liberals who want that don't have much say over the foreign policy atm since they don't have a majority in the Senate
So, as an example, GENA-IFC relations are possible? Not that I'm that pleased with the idea, but if IFC wants to try legitimately getting involved in modern politics, I would say it sounds like a decent idea to do it the diplomatic way. Although I'm surprised IFC did not think of that before passing its 25th resolution.

by Southeast Marajarbia » Sun Jun 19, 2022 8:19 am
New Roma Republic wrote:Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
So, as an example, GENA-IFC relations are possible? Not that I'm that pleased with the idea, but if IFC wants to try legitimately getting involved in modern politics, I would say it sounds like a decent idea to do it the diplomatic way. Although I'm surprised IFC did not think of that before passing its 25th resolution.
Res 25 has nothing to do with opening alliance level relations

by New Roma Republic » Sun Jun 19, 2022 8:23 am
Southeast Marajarbia wrote:New Roma Republic wrote:
tbh, I'd like to think the embassy opening would be retconned to a while ago.
But the diplomacy debate in the Senate is an alliance to alliance level thing, not a nation to nation. Plus the liberals who want that don't have much say over the foreign policy atm since they don't have a majority in the Senate
So, as an example, GENA-IFC relations are possible? Not that I'm that pleased with the idea, but if IFC wants to try legitimately getting involved in modern politics, I would say it sounds like a decent idea to do it the diplomatic way. Although I'm surprised IFC did not think of that before passing its 25th resolution.

by Southeast Marajarbia » Sun Jun 19, 2022 8:24 am
New Roma Republic wrote:Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
So, as an example, GENA-IFC relations are possible? Not that I'm that pleased with the idea, but if IFC wants to try legitimately getting involved in modern politics, I would say it sounds like a decent idea to do it the diplomatic way. Although I'm surprised IFC did not think of that before passing its 25th resolution.
it actually doesn't require memberstates that were members during the passing to drop their membership status as long as they stay committed to the ideals of democracy. That was something the NRI government chose to do on its own. Also, it doesn't prevent prospective and current members from joining any modern alliances. Just those that have undemocratic nations in them.
Also, could you please let Guad post here again? He has no animosity toward you

by New Roma Republic » Sun Jun 19, 2022 8:27 am
Southeast Marajarbia wrote:New Roma Republic wrote:
it actually doesn't require memberstates that were members during the passing to drop their membership status as long as they stay committed to the ideals of democracy. That was something the NRI government chose to do on its own. Also, it doesn't prevent prospective and current members from joining any modern alliances. Just those that have undemocratic nations in them.
Also, could you please let Guad post here again? He has no animosity toward you
Oh ok.
No. I need proof of him playing nice first.

by Southeast Marajarbia » Sun Jun 19, 2022 8:29 am
New Roma Republic wrote:
viewtopic.php?f=23&t=389002&p=39654896#p39654896 Here's the actual text
What kind of proof? And if not here, we may want to create a neutral ground to talk. Maybe a discord server

by New Roma Republic » Sun Jun 19, 2022 8:32 am
Southeast Marajarbia wrote:New Roma Republic wrote:
viewtopic.php?f=23&t=389002&p=39654896#p39654896 Here's the actual text
What kind of proof? And if not here, we may want to create a neutral ground to talk. Maybe a discord server
No discord server for me.
Proof being that he won't be disrespectful and will be more constructive rather than before he was banned. He did a lot of disrespectful things and argued a lot instead of just giving helpful advice.

by Southeast Marajarbia » Sun Jun 19, 2022 8:35 am
New Roma Republic wrote:Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
No discord server for me.
Proof being that he won't be disrespectful and will be more constructive rather than before he was banned. He did a lot of disrespectful things and argued a lot instead of just giving helpful advice.
Rip. Discord is best communication method for me
Tbh, idk how to show you that proof without him posting here. Or having a neutral ground to talk

by New Roma Republic » Sun Jun 19, 2022 8:37 am

by Southeast Marajarbia » Sun Jun 19, 2022 10:02 am
Romanic Imperium wrote:You know what. I think I'm gonna take a break from international incidents I'm tired of all the KTO-GCN bullshit. Every single time it come back around to that. Maybe you guys should live and let live. The constant arguing is pushing away new players from international incidents. When was the last time you saw a new player write on IL?

by Biladu Al Rafidayn » Sun Jun 19, 2022 10:31 am
Common Territories wrote:Islamic Holy Sites wrote:Guess what, we did punish him, or did you forget that? You seem to have no idea what you even want. If Phenyzia pointed nukes at you, you don’t point your goddamn at me, who did nothing to you.
Well maybe I didn’t see it?
No, no you didn't. Two days OOC suspension is a weekend off school, and you know it. I know full well what I want and am not saying it because GENA has already made up its mind it will never enact such policies. Plus im being polite in not asking you for what we'd do/demand in this circumstance. What good will it do if I tell you to boot him from this organization? Or demand he reimburse Imperion money for the wasted military orders that had to be issued? You're not gonna do any of that, are you? Will you take total control over Phenyzia and execute anyone above the rank of governor for their territories and remove all their nukes, giving them to us? No? Thought so. You should be aware what an empire or kingdom does to any nation, or anyone, who challenges the very existence of their nation. I don't believe for a single second you or most in GENA would ignore the fact we glassed Phenyzia and would refrain from returning fire. Only a fool would refrain from defending their ally in such clear circumstances.

by Biladu Al Rafidayn » Sun Jun 19, 2022 10:35 am

by Aursi » Sun Jun 19, 2022 10:37 am
Southeast Marajarbia wrote:Romanic Imperium wrote:You know what. I think I'm gonna take a break from international incidents I'm tired of all the KTO-GCN bullshit. Every single time it come back around to that. Maybe you guys should live and let live. The constant arguing is pushing away new players from international incidents. When was the last time you saw a new player write on IL?
I agree with you, but I disagree on newer players being pushed away. The Cold War ended a while ago, so cooperation (as evidenced by the recent establishment of a Marajarbian Embassy in Janpia) has to start. Without cooperation, there is nothing.

by Romanic Imperium » Sun Jun 19, 2022 10:38 am
Southeast Marajarbia wrote:Romanic Imperium wrote:You know what. I think I'm gonna take a break from international incidents I'm tired of all the KTO-GCN bullshit. Every single time it come back around to that. Maybe you guys should live and let live. The constant arguing is pushing away new players from international incidents. When was the last time you saw a new player write on IL?
I agree with you, but I disagree on newer players being pushed away. The Cold War ended a while ago, so cooperation (as evidenced by the recent establishment of a Marajarbian Embassy in Janpia) has to start. Without cooperation, there is nothing.
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