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Janpia
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Postby Janpia » Sat Jun 18, 2022 9:17 am

Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
Janpia wrote:
Bruh. Why with a timer. Doesnt do much other than say "swit in di corner and dont yu dew it agen"


That is for GENA to know and KTO to find out.


Ya know, we can see GENA RMB right?

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Southeast Marajarbia
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Postby Southeast Marajarbia » Sat Jun 18, 2022 9:18 am

Janpia wrote:
Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
That is for GENA to know and KTO to find out.


Ya know, we can see GENA RMB right?


Yes. Why do you think I frequently tagged you?
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Postby Janpia » Sat Jun 18, 2022 9:22 am

Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
Janpia wrote:
Ya know, we can see GENA RMB right?


Yes. Why do you think I frequently tagged you?


To show me what directions I will take? Its expect, or to not expect stuff?

Long live the Janpian Union of Revolutionary States!

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- NS policies ain't real. (No prison policy? HAA)
- Yes. I am your average tankie commie.
- Nation doesn't totally reflect my political views.(Damn you random policies!)
- No. I ain't no FT nation
- Check my military equipments. Worked hard on dem drawings
- Currently trying to improve my RP quality, and improving past pain write-ups
-My favorite past time read. Probably the reference for my deathstar. But I still swear that I'm not an FT nation
- Sometimes I wonder what am I doing with my export program
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Southeast Marajarbia
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Postby Southeast Marajarbia » Sat Jun 18, 2022 9:24 am

Janpia wrote:
Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
Yes. Why do you think I frequently tagged you?


To show me what directions I will take? Its expect, or to not expect stuff?


Wrong. There's two answers for that. One, transparency purposes (not everyone uses "diplomatic backchannels" afaik), and two, to discuss and prepare for certain things. A lot of the things that GENA does comes from discussions via TG or RMB.
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Postby Scandinavia21 » Sat Jun 18, 2022 3:17 pm

Full Nation Name: The Kingdom of Scandinavia
Name of Leader: Queen Anastasia the 3rd
Name of Representative: Ambassador Thomas Hauger
Are you a puppet? If so, who?: American Pere Housh
Nation: Kingdom of Scandinavia
Technology: MT- PMT
Year: 2025
Territory: Norway, Sweden, Finland, Denmark, Iceland, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Kola Peninsula
Leader: Queen Anastasia the 3rd
GENA Ambassador: Thomas Hauger

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Postby Southeast Marajarbia » Sat Jun 18, 2022 4:12 pm

Scandinavia21 wrote:Full Nation Name: The Kingdom of Scandinavia
Name of Leader: Queen Anastasia the 3rd
Name of Representative: Ambassador Thomas Hauger
Are you a puppet? If so, who?: American Pere Housh


Accepted as observer. Welcome back!
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Postby Southeast Marajarbia » Sat Jun 18, 2022 6:37 pm

Secret project is going well so far by the looks of it. It will benefit just about everyone should it go completely as intended.

Part of this project will slowly be revealed as time passes, preferably over the course of July and August.
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Postby New Roma Republic » Sat Jun 18, 2022 6:57 pm

Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
GreatOceania wrote:
unless you have proof of talks between the IFC and KTO allying with each other what you're saying is a lie the KTO and IFC have never interacted with one an another


Was NRR not a KTO member and an IFC member at one point? Did he not make the KTO logo? Additionally, isn’t NRR one of IFC’s leaders as well?


OMG SM, how many times do I need to tell you that the NRI's membership was retconned (or decanonized in your terms). And just bc I gave them a logo doesn't mean the NRI has any IC connection with KTO. Remember my OOC views, words, and actions do NOT and never will reflect the NRI's IC actions and vice versa.

Also disregard me being MIA for the next week. Plans changed
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Postby Southeast Marajarbia » Sat Jun 18, 2022 7:56 pm

Common Territories wrote:

To: Signatories of The Global Entente of Nations & Alliances and World Parliament Participants.
From: Rep. Kevin Mayer; On Behalf of Emperor JC, Emperor of TECT & Imperial Marshal of the Imperion Coalition.
Subject: Severing of Amicable Relations.
Encryption: None.

Dear World Parliamentarians of the GENA,

On behalf of His Imperial & Royal Majesty Emperor JC, Imperial Marshal of the Imperion Coalition - and of course the eleven member nations of the Imperion Coalition I am representing today - it is my sworn duty on this day to bring to your body's attention the decision made by the Imperion Coalition regarding its relationship with the Global Entente of Nations & Alliances.

As you should be aware by now, a member of the Global Entente of Nations & Alliances publicly threatened to commit the sin of conducting an offensive nuclear strike on not only a member of this Coalition, but also against the world itself. Their threats cannot be misunderstood or ignored - they threatened to start global nuclear apocalypse. This flagrant hostility from a member of this organization came as a shock to my Emperor, but what concerned him more was the total silence from GENA authorities concerning this matter. Our lines sat silent as we waited for emergency deconfliction communications from GENA. When none arrived, we were left with no choice but to assume the worst case scenario, that GENA had decided nuclear war with the Coalition was its prerogative. As such, the Coalition prepared for the worst and readied its nuclear arsenals for retaliatory strikes if the Phenyzian Kaiserreich or other members of GENA fired first. It was only after confidants within Phenyzia assured us there would be no nuclear exchange that the Coalition gave its stand down order. For this entire heated exchange, GENA did not engage with the Coalition using public or deconfliction lines, a complete and utter violation of the Amicable Relations Agreement agreed to by both the Coalition and GENA. Worst yet, it is many hours later - an entire day in fact - and authorities within GENA have yet to engage with Imperion counterparts concerning this issue. It's as if GENA refuses to engage with the Imperion Coalition at any level of talks. Nuclear weapons were armed and aimed at every single member of GENA in response to a threat posed by one of its members, and the entirety of GENA had nothing to say concerning it? We have been left in silence and have come to the understanding that two possible answers to this dilemma exist. First, GENA refuses to either acknowledge or even engage with the Imperion Coalition, or second, take responsibility for the actions of its member for almost starting a nuclear war. To be frank with your body, HRIM believes it's a combination of the two.

Thus with resolve stronger than steel, it is my duty to inform the Global Entente of Nations & Alliances that by decision of HRIM the Imperial Marshal, the Amicable Relations Agreement agreed to between our two organizations is now terminated. We have already severed our public and deconfliction lines with your authorities, and as you read this, members of the Coalition are implementing new procedures concerning GENA as per our refocused directives. If GENA has no use for such lines of communications, then the Coalition will not bother wasting either of our times maintaining them. This impertinent violation to our agreement can only be viewed as an insult to this Coalition. We approached GENA in good faith and believed in this new relationship, truly. But this insult will not be forgotten any time soon. If your goal was to build animosity with this Coalition by giving it the cold shoulder, consider your objectives achieved. Furthermore, it has reached our ears that the Phenyzian Kaiserreich has received zero punishment for its actions in this entire debacle even though it is entirely the Kaiserreich's fault. For nearly bringing about nuclear hell upon its fellow GENA members it is "punished" by two days demotion to observer status? In the Empire you would be punished harsher for littering. Regardless of its change of heart after its leadership responsible is removed, such a slap on the wrist for these egregious actions is a complete and unacceptable affront to this Coalition. We deserve better and so does everyone else involved. As such, on behalf of HRIM the Imperial Marshal, I bring to you today the total condemnation of the Global Entente of Nations & Alliances. GENA's failure to act during this heated nuclear standoff, combined with its refusal to engage with Coalition authorities during or after the fact, and its perceived support of the actions by its member Phenyzia are all reasons why the Imperion Coalition and The Empire of Common Territories hereby condemns in the strongest degree the Global Entente of Nations & Alliances. With that said, I will leave you in silence, as you have us throughout this entire quagmire. Flectere si nequeo superos, Acheronta movebo!


Sincerely,
Representative Kevin Mayer of TECT
HIRM Emperor JC, Imperial Marshal of the Imperion Coalition
The Imperion Coalition.


I would say that this is a little bit harsh, but eh. I would also say a little deserved and expected, coming from someone experienced who I happen to respect.
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Postby Common Territories » Sat Jun 18, 2022 8:57 pm

Like what was said IC, we take the fact we were threatened with nuclear war very, very seriously. War in general yea, but said nation threatened to nuke a member and just nuke everything else while they were at it. There was no communication so this was the result. So to not even really see much of a punishment afterwards or an attempt to satisfy our grievances really upsets Coalition authorities. Granted yes we're being fairly heavy handed diplomatically, but that's nothing compared to an entity we'd actively consider an enemy. I'd say our relationship is over for the time being, but not utterly destroyed in the long term.

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Postby Biladu Al Rafidayn » Sun Jun 19, 2022 2:17 am

Common Territories wrote:Like what was said IC, we take the fact we were threatened with nuclear war very, very seriously. War in general yea, but said nation threatened to nuke a member and just nuke everything else while they were at it. There was no communication so this was the result. So to not even really see much of a punishment afterwards or an attempt to satisfy our grievances really upsets Coalition authorities. Granted yes we're being fairly heavy handed diplomatically, but that's nothing compared to an entity we'd actively consider an enemy. I'd say our relationship is over for the time being, but not utterly destroyed in the long term.

We demoted Phenyzia for that. We didn’t just stand there and do nothing
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Janpia
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Postby Janpia » Sun Jun 19, 2022 2:20 am

Biladu Al Rafidayn wrote:
Common Territories wrote:Like what was said IC, we take the fact we were threatened with nuclear war very, very seriously. War in general yea, but said nation threatened to nuke a member and just nuke everything else while they were at it. There was no communication so this was the result. So to not even really see much of a punishment afterwards or an attempt to satisfy our grievances really upsets Coalition authorities. Granted yes we're being fairly heavy handed diplomatically, but that's nothing compared to an entity we'd actively consider an enemy. I'd say our relationship is over for the time being, but not utterly destroyed in the long term.

We demoted Phenyzia for that. We didn’t just stand there and do nothing


For 2 days. Atleast KTO made ZN an observer for an indefinite time until they fix themselves.

Long live the Janpian Union of Revolutionary States!

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- NS policies ain't real. (No prison policy? HAA)
- Yes. I am your average tankie commie.
- Nation doesn't totally reflect my political views.(Damn you random policies!)
- No. I ain't no FT nation
- Check my military equipments. Worked hard on dem drawings
- Currently trying to improve my RP quality, and improving past pain write-ups
-My favorite past time read. Probably the reference for my deathstar. But I still swear that I'm not an FT nation
- Sometimes I wonder what am I doing with my export program
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Postby Biladu Al Rafidayn » Sun Jun 19, 2022 2:24 am

Janpia wrote:
Biladu Al Rafidayn wrote:We demoted Phenyzia for that. We didn’t just stand there and do nothing


For 2 days. Atleast KTO made ZN an observer for an indefinite time until they fix themselves.

Is ZN member again?

Yes, for two days. It was enough, wasn’t it?
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Postby Janpia » Sun Jun 19, 2022 2:47 am

Biladu Al Rafidayn wrote:
Janpia wrote:
For 2 days. Atleast KTO made ZN an observer for an indefinite time until they fix themselves.

Is ZN member again?

Yes, for two days. It was enough, wasn’t it?


No. Been like what, a month now.

2 days isnt enough.

Long live the Janpian Union of Revolutionary States!

5th Era


- NS policies ain't real. (No prison policy? HAA)
- Yes. I am your average tankie commie.
- Nation doesn't totally reflect my political views.(Damn you random policies!)
- No. I ain't no FT nation
- Check my military equipments. Worked hard on dem drawings
- Currently trying to improve my RP quality, and improving past pain write-ups
-My favorite past time read. Probably the reference for my deathstar. But I still swear that I'm not an FT nation
- Sometimes I wonder what am I doing with my export program
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Biladu Al Rafidayn
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Postby Biladu Al Rafidayn » Sun Jun 19, 2022 2:53 am

Janpia wrote:
Biladu Al Rafidayn wrote:Is ZN member again?

Yes, for two days. It was enough, wasn’t it?


No. Been like what, a month now.

2 days isnt enough.

Ok

It was enough to find out everything
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Postby Janpia » Sun Jun 19, 2022 2:57 am

Biladu Al Rafidayn wrote:
Janpia wrote:
No. Been like what, a month now.

2 days isnt enough.

Ok

It was enough to find out everything


. . . w h a t ?

Long live the Janpian Union of Revolutionary States!

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- NS policies ain't real. (No prison policy? HAA)
- Yes. I am your average tankie commie.
- Nation doesn't totally reflect my political views.(Damn you random policies!)
- No. I ain't no FT nation
- Check my military equipments. Worked hard on dem drawings
- Currently trying to improve my RP quality, and improving past pain write-ups
-My favorite past time read. Probably the reference for my deathstar. But I still swear that I'm not an FT nation
- Sometimes I wonder what am I doing with my export program
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Postby Biladu Al Rafidayn » Sun Jun 19, 2022 2:58 am

Janpia wrote:
Biladu Al Rafidayn wrote:Ok

It was enough to find out everything


. . . w h a t ?

The truth about the nuke threats
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Postby Janpia » Sun Jun 19, 2022 2:59 am

Biladu Al Rafidayn wrote:
Janpia wrote:
. . . w h a t ?

The truth about the nuke threats


That isnt even the point of multiple condemnations

Long live the Janpian Union of Revolutionary States!

5th Era


- NS policies ain't real. (No prison policy? HAA)
- Yes. I am your average tankie commie.
- Nation doesn't totally reflect my political views.(Damn you random policies!)
- No. I ain't no FT nation
- Check my military equipments. Worked hard on dem drawings
- Currently trying to improve my RP quality, and improving past pain write-ups
-My favorite past time read. Probably the reference for my deathstar. But I still swear that I'm not an FT nation
- Sometimes I wonder what am I doing with my export program
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-LDO

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Postby Biladu Al Rafidayn » Sun Jun 19, 2022 3:01 am

Janpia wrote:
Biladu Al Rafidayn wrote:The truth about the nuke threats


That isnt even the point of multiple condemnations

The Imperion Coalition was not talking about that, was it?
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Postby Common Territories » Sun Jun 19, 2022 3:40 am

Biladu Al Rafidayn wrote:
Janpia wrote:
That isnt even the point of multiple condemnations

The Imperion Coalition was not talking about that, was it?

Our condemnation was not about any other alliance's views or condemnations. We don't care about you democracy based alliances squabbling nor do such events influence us in such ways. Imperion condemned GENA of its own free will, doing so because GENA failed to take any action while the situation was happening, and it failed again to even contact us after the situation. Normally if your organization made a mistake at some level the responsible authorities would make a call to deescalate the situation and apologize. This, in our opinion, was a total violation of the agreement we had made concerning deconfliction lines and the entire spirit of the agreement as a whole. As I've said repeatedly, we take threats very, very seriously, hence why we aimed nukes at all of you since we were left in the dark other than a GENA member preparing to fire nuclear weapons at us. If this had been a threat to deploy a naval force or perform an air strike, we would have conducted a preemptive strike or show of force. Imperion/SEC has existed solely to protect its members and it has done so through violent means through every step of the way.

The condemnation itself, however, was mostly egged on by the fact this nation - who almost brought your alliance into total nuclear war - only got a slap on the wrist. Well to us it didn't even look like that, it looked as if you supported his actions but had to keep face somehow by literally doing anything. But if you want my OOC opinion, demoting to observer for two days isn't even a punishment. It's a weekend off. If a member of the Coalition had done this exact thing, he would either be removed, servery punished, or we'd help them successfully bluff/strike their way to victory - when we go, we go all in. So you can understand hopefully why Imperion took this entire debacle as a straight up insult. It could live after such a nuclear scare, but seeing a group of nations it tried to have an amicable relationship with betray it in its eyes so blatantly totally destroyed any hope or trust that was starting to build.

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Postby Southeast Marajarbia » Sun Jun 19, 2022 3:51 am

Common Territories wrote:Like what was said IC, we take the fact we were threatened with nuclear war very, very seriously. War in general yea, but said nation threatened to nuke a member and just nuke everything else while they were at it. There was no communication so this was the result. So to not even really see much of a punishment afterwards or an attempt to satisfy our grievances really upsets Coalition authorities. Granted yes we're being fairly heavy handed diplomatically, but that's nothing compared to an entity we'd actively consider an enemy. I'd say our relationship is over for the time being, but not utterly destroyed in the long term.


Understandable, and good to hear.
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Postby Biladu Al Rafidayn » Sun Jun 19, 2022 4:04 am

Common Territories wrote:
Biladu Al Rafidayn wrote:The Imperion Coalition was not talking about that, was it?

Our condemnation was not about any other alliance's views or condemnations. We don't care about you democracy based alliances squabbling nor do such events influence us in such ways. Imperion condemned GENA of its own free will, doing so because GENA failed to take any action while the situation was happening, and it failed again to even contact us after the situation. Normally if your organization made a mistake at some level the responsible authorities would make a call to deescalate the situation and apologize. This, in our opinion, was a total violation of the agreement we had made concerning deconfliction lines and the entire spirit of the agreement as a whole. As I've said repeatedly, we take threats very, very seriously, hence why we aimed nukes at all of you since we were left in the dark other than a GENA member preparing to fire nuclear weapons at us. If this had been a threat to deploy a naval force or perform an air strike, we would have conducted a preemptive strike or show of force. Imperion/SEC has existed solely to protect its members and it has done so through violent means through every step of the way.

The condemnation itself, however, was mostly egged on by the fact this nation - who almost brought your alliance into total nuclear war - only got a slap on the wrist. Well to us it didn't even look like that, it looked as if you supported his actions but had to keep face somehow by literally doing anything. But if you want my OOC opinion, demoting to observer for two days isn't even a punishment. It's a weekend off. If a member of the Coalition had done this exact thing, he would either be removed, servery punished, or we'd help them successfully bluff/strike their way to victory - when we go, we go all in. So you can understand hopefully why Imperion took this entire debacle as a straight up insult. It could live after such a nuclear scare, but seeing a group of nations it tried to have an amicable relationship with betray it in its eyes so blatantly totally destroyed any hope or trust that was starting to build.

True. But Phenyzia apologised and executed the person responsible, so I don’t think that expelling them would be very practical, you see?
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Postby Janpia » Sun Jun 19, 2022 4:09 am

Biladu Al Rafidayn wrote:
Common Territories wrote:Our condemnation was not about any other alliance's views or condemnations. We don't care about you democracy based alliances squabbling nor do such events influence us in such ways. Imperion condemned GENA of its own free will, doing so because GENA failed to take any action while the situation was happening, and it failed again to even contact us after the situation. Normally if your organization made a mistake at some level the responsible authorities would make a call to deescalate the situation and apologize. This, in our opinion, was a total violation of the agreement we had made concerning deconfliction lines and the entire spirit of the agreement as a whole. As I've said repeatedly, we take threats very, very seriously, hence why we aimed nukes at all of you since we were left in the dark other than a GENA member preparing to fire nuclear weapons at us. If this had been a threat to deploy a naval force or perform an air strike, we would have conducted a preemptive strike or show of force. Imperion/SEC has existed solely to protect its members and it has done so through violent means through every step of the way.

The condemnation itself, however, was mostly egged on by the fact this nation - who almost brought your alliance into total nuclear war - only got a slap on the wrist. Well to us it didn't even look like that, it looked as if you supported his actions but had to keep face somehow by literally doing anything. But if you want my OOC opinion, demoting to observer for two days isn't even a punishment. It's a weekend off. If a member of the Coalition had done this exact thing, he would either be removed, servery punished, or we'd help them successfully bluff/strike their way to victory - when we go, we go all in. So you can understand hopefully why Imperion took this entire debacle as a straight up insult. It could live after such a nuclear scare, but seeing a group of nations it tried to have an amicable relationship with betray it in its eyes so blatantly totally destroyed any hope or trust that was starting to build.

True. But Phenyzia apologised and executed the person responsible, so I don’t think that expelling them would be very practical, you see?


Say that to Galapagos talks then, regarding his nukes, and disregard of NAP

Long live the Janpian Union of Revolutionary States!

5th Era


- NS policies ain't real. (No prison policy? HAA)
- Yes. I am your average tankie commie.
- Nation doesn't totally reflect my political views.(Damn you random policies!)
- No. I ain't no FT nation
- Check my military equipments. Worked hard on dem drawings
- Currently trying to improve my RP quality, and improving past pain write-ups
-My favorite past time read. Probably the reference for my deathstar. But I still swear that I'm not an FT nation
- Sometimes I wonder what am I doing with my export program
Alliances with:
-KTO
-LDO

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Postby Biladu Al Rafidayn » Sun Jun 19, 2022 4:14 am

Janpia wrote:
Biladu Al Rafidayn wrote:True. But Phenyzia apologised and executed the person responsible, so I don’t think that expelling them would be very practical, you see?


Say that to Galapagos talks then, regarding his nukes, and disregard of NAP

?
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Postby Janpia » Sun Jun 19, 2022 4:15 am

Biladu Al Rafidayn wrote:
Janpia wrote:
Say that to Galapagos talks then, regarding his nukes, and disregard of NAP

?


"True. But Galapagos apologised and and admitted they are responsible for the nuke and breaky breaky NAP, so I don’t think that blocking them from getting Churches would be very practical, you see?"
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Long live the Janpian Union of Revolutionary States!

5th Era


- NS policies ain't real. (No prison policy? HAA)
- Yes. I am your average tankie commie.
- Nation doesn't totally reflect my political views.(Damn you random policies!)
- No. I ain't no FT nation
- Check my military equipments. Worked hard on dem drawings
- Currently trying to improve my RP quality, and improving past pain write-ups
-My favorite past time read. Probably the reference for my deathstar. But I still swear that I'm not an FT nation
- Sometimes I wonder what am I doing with my export program
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-KTO
-LDO

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