Global Entente of Nations & Alliances OOC & Sign Ups

[Southeast Marajarbia]

This has been explained a hundred times. Gonszwana's FT, so he cannot be in a MT's canon. Its very simple

By your logic, having MT concepts like Poseidon, a bunch of reverse engineered Russian or Chinese tech, is FT, then I am FT as well.

Tell me, what part of Gonswanza is FT? Cite source

They have a conflicting timeline of events which utilize a shit ton of advanced technology and/or isn’t acknowledged and never will be.

Like seriously, if it's that much of a problem for Gonswanza to acknowledge that the nation just doesn't exist, then he should go somewhere else where it does exist. It's not that big a deal as you or anyone else from the KTO is taking it.

[The Military State of the Galapagos]

SM how come you call Gonswanza FT when you’re the one with literal mechs?

[Southeast Marajarbia]

SM how come you call Gonswanza FT when your the one with literal mechs?

The mechs themselves have modifications. They aren't entirely based off of Code Geass mechs, so the design isn’t exact as you might believe. They are made for PMT-bordering roleplays specifically, so not equipped with wings or giant lasers or even energy shields. It's mostly just basic ass military equipment coupled onto a robot suit.

This means miniguns, rocket launchers, and all that kind of stuff, which I find hard to believe based on what you are implying wasn't double checked. I mean seriously, it's over a year's worth of lore that not many have paid as much attention to.

[The Military State of the Galapagos]

SM how come you call Gonswanza FT when your the one with literal mechs?

The mechs themselves have modifications. They aren't entirely based off of Code Geass mechs, so the design isn’t exact as you might believe. They are made for PMT-bordering roleplays specifically, so not equipped with wings or giant lasers or even energy shields. It's mostly just basic ass military equipment coupled onto a robot suit.

This means miniguns, rocket launchers, and all that kind of stuff, which I find hard to believe based on what you are implying wasn't double checked. I mean seriously, it's over a year's worth of lore that not many have paid as much attention to.

So, at best Gonswanza is PMT then

[Southeast Marajarbia]

The mechs themselves have modifications. They aren't entirely based off of Code Geass mechs, so the design isn’t exact as you might believe. They are made for PMT-bordering roleplays specifically, so not equipped with wings or giant lasers or even energy shields. It's mostly just basic ass military equipment coupled onto a robot suit.

This means miniguns, rocket launchers, and all that kind of stuff, which I find hard to believe based on what you are implying wasn't double checked. I mean seriously, it's over a year's worth of lore that not many have paid as much attention to.

So, at best Gonswanza is PMT then

Nope. Gonswanza is FT, and will remain FT. Additionally, this petty ass argument is getting tiring. If Gonswanza can't accept that they don't exist in neither my canon nor that of IHS, they should go somewhere else. Full stop. Any further attempts to continue this argument here on this thread will result in any of the 3 founders handing out alerts or bans from this thread entirely.

[Awesome Imperium]

So, at best Gonswanza is PMT then

Nope. Gonswanza is FT, and will remain FT. Additionally, this petty ass argument is getting tiring. If Gonswanza can't accept that they don't exist in neither my canon nor that of IHS, they should go somewhere else. Full stop. Any further attempts to continue this argument here on this thread will result in any of the 3 founders handing out alerts or bans from this thread entirely.

there not ft if they say there not ft, you cant just go around calling people non-canon or ft and decide cannon or playing the strings with alliances.

[Southeast Marajarbia]

Nope. Gonswanza is FT, and will remain FT. Additionally, this petty ass argument is getting tiring. If Gonswanza can't accept that they don't exist in neither my canon nor that of IHS, they should go somewhere else. Full stop. Any further attempts to continue this argument here on this thread will result in any of the 3 founders handing out alerts or bans from this thread entirely.

there not ft if they say there not ft, you cant just go around calling people non-canon or ft and decide cannon or playing the strings with alliances.

Yes I can. What's in my canon is in my canon because it's my canon. Those who have a problem with it can and always will have the opportunity to make things right unless its specific players, such as Gonswanza, who can just go anywhere else and deal with it instead of having their buddies come here and try to say otherwise.

Now since you want to continue this argument, I'm giving you a mere warning/alert not to do it here again. I was serious about this, and I won't have those who attempt to commit to doing such things get away scot free.

[GreatOceania]

SM how come you call Gonswanza FT when your the one with literal mechs?

The mechs themselves have modifications. They aren't entirely based off of Code Geass mechs, so the design isn’t exact as you might believe. They are made for PMT-bordering roleplays specifically, so not equipped with wings or giant lasers or even energy shields. It's mostly just basic ass military equipment coupled onto a robot suit.

This means miniguns, rocket launchers, and all that kind of stuff, which I find hard to believe based on what you are implying wasn't double checked. I mean seriously, it's over a year's worth of lore that not many have paid as much attention to.

Mechs aren't a great practical weapon due to having a ton of flaws basic research on internet will tell you why Tanks will be better than a Mech

1-Legs vs Treads

A Mech is a bipedal vehicle standing at whatever height you want it if said leg gets hit by explosives or stepped on an anti-tank mine that thing will be coming down hitting the ground causing more damage to the thing itself and the pilot sustaining injuries from the impact of the mech hitting the ground and plus how are you gonna recover or repair the thing in the middle of a fight? parts for it will be expensive and you have to make sure every mech is maintained which could lead to shortages of said parts

For tanks, they have treads if they run over an Anti-tank mine the tread will get destroyed, and the transmission may or may not get destroyed and the crew sustained minor injuries but the tank is still operational and can be recovered by tank recovery vehicles and repair much more quickly due to parts being on hand

-space
A Mech only has so much space on it and could only carry so much thing ranging from ammunition to fuel, and to other things to keep it operational because of this you'll need logistic vehicles to follow it everywhere

with tanks, they have the space to carry spare ammunition, fuel, and tools allowing them to fight longer than a mech but of course while they can go long periods without resupplying they still need said stuff to operate effectively so logistic will still need to follow behind

-firepower
A mech depends if it has Arms and hands but in this case, we are gonna consider that they do have arms and hands they could have various weaponry ranging from machineguns, autocannons, and rockets but these calibers could range from 20mm to 57mm, of course, to keep on fighting they would have spare ammunition this will cause a problem that being space again where are they gonna put it? you got to sacrifice something to have something else and also what you gonna do when there's a tank in the distance that thing could hit you pretty accurately with its gun

on tanks (depending on the model and whos operating it) the main standard tank guns are either 120mm or 125mm mostly smoothbore and are pretty accurate with both can shoot an APFSDS and HEAT-FS at about 4,000 meters and on the 2A46 125mm gun it can shoot ATGM up to about 5,000 meters and on the 120mm to about 8,000mm meaning they could sit back at a far distance and pick off each mech one by one.

-Protection

I can take look at various mechs on the internet and say "Hmm I don't think this will do well against modern APFSDS, HEAT, and ATGMs" why because they have protection against said stuff I don't see Slate armor, NERA, ERA, or any APS systems it may stop I don't know probably stop autocannon calibers such 23mm, and up to 30mm but it won't stop anything larger

On tanks, they got everything they got Slate armor, NERA, ERA, and APS however it is still best to not get shot as older stuff may or may not fully destroy the projectile.

-Profile

I don't need to say it but you have a tall bipedal made of steel, metal and other stuff it isn't that hard to spot something like that roaming about the place plus it would be hard to camouflage this for an ambush or to conceal its position

Depending on the type of Tank they have a much smaller profile (Size comparison between M60 Patton and a T-62) allowing the crew to camouflage it to make it harder to spot and allowing them to set up an ambush

Tanks also have access to stuff like Fire Control Systems, IR lights, commander sights, FLIR and thermals sights/scopes, and NVGs allowing them to also be effective at night and spot stuff quickly and faster a mech however would need to sacrifice space for said stuff to be effective night-fighter

In support roles why use a mech when you got armored vehicles that could do something yes while they can't pick stuff up they don't have to worry about spare parts and why spend the money to buy a support mech when you could convert a few of your tanks or armored vehicles to a support role.

On top of that, a tank has better mobility while they might encounter issues driving in areas such as a swamp but a smart person would just go around they however a mech however will also need to go around said swamp cause of the difference in-ground pressure now let's say a mech could well the logistic corp ain't gonna do that they gonna get bogged down real quick and so your mech with short-range, low fuel capacity and ammo would be on its own

[Phenyzia]

The mechs themselves have modifications. They aren't entirely based off of Code Geass mechs, so the design isn’t exact as you might believe. They are made for PMT-bordering roleplays specifically, so not equipped with wings or giant lasers or even energy shields. It's mostly just basic ass military equipment coupled onto a robot suit.

This means miniguns, rocket launchers, and all that kind of stuff, which I find hard to believe based on what you are implying wasn't double checked. I mean seriously, it's over a year's worth of lore that not many have paid as much attention to.

Mechs aren't a great practical weapon due to having a ton of flaws basic research on internet will tell you why Tanks will be better than a Mech

1-Legs vs Treads

A Mech is a bipedal vehicle standing at whatever height you want it if said leg gets hit by explosives or stepped on an anti-tank mine that thing will be coming down hitting the ground causing more damage to the thing itself and the pilot sustaining injuries from the impact of the mech hitting the ground and plus how are you gonna recover or repair the thing in the middle of a fight? parts for it will be expensive and you have to make sure every mech is maintained which could lead to shortages of said parts

For tanks, they have treads if they run over an Anti-tank mine the tread will get destroyed, and the transmission may or may not get destroyed and the crew sustained minor injuries but the tank is still operational and can be recovered by tank recovery vehicles and repair much more quickly due to parts being on hand

-space
A Mech only has so much space on it and could only carry so much thing ranging from ammunition to fuel, and to other things to keep it operational because of this you'll need logistic vehicles to follow it everywhere

with tanks, they have the space to carry spare ammunition, fuel, and tools allowing them to fight longer than a mech but of course while they can go long periods without resupplying they still need said stuff to operate effectively so logistic will still need to follow behind

-firepower
A mech depends if it has Arms and hands but in this case, we are gonna consider that they do have arms and hands they could have various weaponry ranging from machineguns, autocannons, and rockets but these calibers could range from 20mm to 57mm, of course, to keep on fighting they would have spare ammunition this will cause a problem that being space again where are they gonna put it? you got to sacrifice something to have something else and also what you gonna do when there's a tank in the distance that thing could hit you pretty accurately with its gun

on tanks (depending on the model and whos operating it) the main standard tank guns are either 120mm or 125mm mostly smoothbore and are pretty accurate with both can shoot an APFSDS and HEAT-FS at about 4,000 meters and on the 2A46 125mm gun it can shoot ATGM up to about 5,000 meters and on the 120mm to about 8,000mm meaning they could sit back at a far distance and pick off each mech one by one.

-Protection

I can take look at various mechs on the internet and say "Hmm I don't think this will do well against modern APFSDS, HEAT, and ATGMs" why because they have protection against said stuff I don't see Slate armor, NERA, ERA, or any APS systems it may stop I don't know probably stop autocannon calibers such 23mm, and up to 30mm but it won't stop anything larger

On tanks, they got everything they got Slate armor, NERA, ERA, and APS however it is still best to not get shot as older stuff may or may not fully destroy the projectile.

-Profile

I don't need to say it but you have a tall bipedal made of steel, metal and other stuff it isn't that hard to spot something like that roaming about the place plus it would be hard to camouflage this for an ambush or to conceal its position

Depending on the type of Tank they have a much smaller profile (Size comparison between M60 Patton and a T-62) allowing the crew to camouflage it to make it harder to spot and allowing them to set up an ambush

Tanks also have access to stuff like Fire Control Systems, IR lights, commander sights, FLIR and thermals sights/scopes, and NVGs allowing them to also be effective at night and spot stuff quickly and faster a mech however would need to sacrifice space for said stuff to be effective night-fighter

In support roles why use a mech when you got armored vehicles that could do something yes while they can't pick stuff up they don't have to worry about spare parts and why spend the money to buy a support mech when you could convert a few of your tanks or armored vehicles to a support role.

On top of that, a tank has better mobility while they might encounter issues driving in areas such as a swamp but a smart person would just go around they however a mech however will also need to go around said swamp cause of the difference in-ground pressure now let's say a mech could well the logistic corp ain't gonna do that they gonna get bogged down real quick and so your mech with short-range, low fuel capacity and ammo would be on its own

To be fair, I do think mechs can work if they are smaller, more akin to something like power armor to be used in situations where even a light tank would not fit.
...Now that I think about it I think I just found my next experimental weapon Phenyzia is going to deply soon.

[GreatOceania]

To be fair, I do think mechs can work if they are smaller, more akin to something like power armor to be used in situations where even a light tank would not fit.
...Now that I think about it I think I just found my next experimental weapon Phenyzia is going to deply soon.

Even power armor has its flaws while it may stop I don't know let's say a 12.7mm it certainly won't stop kinetic energy produced by said impact so while you didn't get killed by a heavy bullet you do however have broken ribs

[Aursi]

AI is trying to do something. They're gonna launch a war on MCA, if everything goes like this

[Phenyzia]

AI is trying to do something. They're gonna launch a war on MCA, if everything goes like this

AI just closed down Suez and Gibraltar...that's literally asking for just about everyone to stomp his navy into the ground.

[Biladu Al Rafidayn]

AI is trying to do something. They're gonna launch a war on MCA, if everything goes like this

AI just closed down Suez and Gibraltar...that's literally asking for just about everyone to stomp his navy into the ground.

Decanonisation goes brrrr

[Southeast Marajarbia]

Any and all members of the Global Senate are advised to check the thread, as there is an ongoing proposal up for debate.

[Southeast Marajarbia]

Well, looks like Mets Hayk gave me permission to run IHC alongside a few others for a couple of days or weeks. IDK wether to accept the offer yet due to GENA being my primary concern, but if I do accept I will be dividing my time equally for both GENA and IHC whenever I am able to come online.

[Janpia]

By your logic, having MT concepts like Poseidon, a bunch of reverse engineered Russian or Chinese tech, is FT, then I am FT as well.

Tell me, what part of Gonswanza is FT? Cite source

They have a conflicting timeline of events which utilize a shit ton of advanced technology and/or isn’t acknowledged and never will be.

Like seriously, if it's that much of a problem for Gonswanza to acknowledge that the nation just doesn't exist, then he should go somewhere else where it does exist. It's not that big a deal as you or anyone else from the KTO is taking it.

Which specific technology?

[Southeast Marajarbia]

Janpia is now tempbanned from this thread for a week.

[Awesome Imperium]

AI is trying to do something. They're gonna launch a war on MCA, if everything goes like this

Who said I'm gonna declare war? I'm just in defcon 1 defence fir war not declaring, plus we can't declare war now, not until after the 12th which is the festival to Athena, Aestiva, Apollo, and Artemis. But we will prep our entire military for war if mca enters the mare nostrum or the EEZ, which is when they shall face war with iron, blood, and the fury of the Imperium.

[Awesome Imperium]

AI is trying to do something. They're gonna launch a war on MCA, if everything goes like this

AI just closed down Suez and Gibraltar...that's literally asking for just about everyone to stomp his navy into the ground.

Only to mca. Gena ,aco, and igc are fine.

[Awesome Imperium]

And I've also given them chances to negotiate with her majesty Julia Aestiva but they missed the last chance and prepped their naval forces, disgraced us, and kicked out our representative so yea I'm on defcon 1 and any funny buisness will be met with force and fury and in not afraid to use our nuclear arsenal.

[Awesome Imperium]

They also said that I will anger other alliances but I'm only blocking mca ships and 3 mca members excluded from the ban, Aursi, SM, and the King Isle.

[Sebrenskiya]

So, at best Gonswanza is PMT then

Nope. Gonswanza is FT, and will remain FT. Additionally, this petty ass argument is getting tiring. If Gonswanza can't accept that they don't exist in neither my canon nor that of IHS, they should go somewhere else. Full stop. Any further attempts to continue this argument here on this thread will result in any of the 3 founders handing out alerts or bans from this thread entirely.

Gonswanza is not at all FT and i'm not seeing any specific military technology which appears to be FT in any way shape or form

[Aursi]

They also said that I will anger other alliances but I'm only blocking mca ships and 3 mca members excluded from the ban, Aursi, SM, and the King Isle.

Please don't post four times in a row. You could've just edited your past message.

[Southeast Marajarbia]

They also said that I will anger other alliances but I'm only blocking mca ships and 3 mca members excluded from the ban, Aursi, SM, and the King Isle.

Please don't post four times in a row. You could've just edited your past message.

^
What Aursi said.

[Southeast Marajarbia]

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IFC Condemns GENA, Phenyzia

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Kairaku, Kirishima – In an overwhelming majority, the Roman Senate written revision of Resolution 27, 27b, was passed by the International Freedom Coalition Council. This resolution condemns the Global Entente of Nations and Alliances (GENA) for coopting national sovereignty. GENA has been stated by some as the “greatest threat to national sovereignty” of modern times. GENA critic Senator Cato celebrated the passing of the resolution stating “this organization wishes to be a global hegemony. This is an important step to preventing the destruction of modern civilization as we know it.”

The resolution also condemned Phenyzia for various crimes against humanity including, but not limited to the massacre of Parisians and use of colonization. The IFC condemned colonialism in 2015. It also forces all IFC members to institute a number of sanctions on Phenyzian citizens.

This resolution also condemns GENA for not removing Phenyzian membership from the organization. The organization has, in the face of international criticism, not removed Phenyzian membership. The leadership of the organization did demote Phenyzian membership to “observer” status for 48 hours after the first IFC condemnation of Phenyzia for the massacre of democratic protestors, but it has been starkly silent on Phenyzia after the massacre of Parisians.

This resolution has been very controversial with politicians on both sides of the aisle supporting and criticizing it. This resolution was championed by the NRI Foreign Affairs Ministry and the Office of the Caesar. The Praetor, which had a recent shakeup, criticized many parts of the resolution.

I don't think many GENA members really care as much about an IFC condemnation. It's a condemnation coming from an irrelevant alliance which is desperately trying extremely hard to be relevant that it doesn’t even give any damns regarding its own issues, much less an organization that isn't GENA.