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Postby South Olpen » Sun Jun 26, 2022 7:47 am

GENA is an F. Acceptinbg fascists will eventually turn this into a , what was that, whatever Laka was in during the UCA Mereyica-SM hostilities. If I wasn't having an organized arc that leaves little room for alternation, then would be taking stronger actions then the IFC.
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Postby Southeast Marajarbia » Sun Jun 26, 2022 7:56 am

SOUTH OLPEN wrote:GENA is an F. Acceptinbg fascists will eventually turn this into a , what was that, whatever Laka was in during the UCA Mereyica-SM hostilities. If I wasn't having an organized arc that leaves little room for alternation, then would be taking stronger actions then the IFC.


Funny thing is that, since it is you doing it, it would actually matter more if you made a condemnation rather than the IFC, since you have a major role you are currently playing in modern politics, setting up your end of summer war and the like.
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Postby Guadalupador » Sun Jun 26, 2022 8:01 am

I have a question: What does “modern politics” mean in the context of NationStates International Incidents Roleplaying?
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Postby Southeast Marajarbia » Sun Jun 26, 2022 8:07 am

Guadalupador wrote:I have a question: What does “modern politics” mean in the context of NationStates International Incidents Roleplaying?


Basically which new-ish alliances contribute the most to or participate a lot in varying series of RP arcs which leave a general mark on just about everything. Prime examples being UDAF/UCA vs. PRS/WTA or the entire GCN-KTO Cold War.
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Postby Phenyzia » Sun Jun 26, 2022 8:11 am

SOUTH OLPEN wrote:GENA is an F. Acceptinbg fascists will eventually turn this into a , what was that, whatever Laka was in during the UCA Mereyica-SM hostilities. If I wasn't having an organized arc that leaves little room for alternation, then would be taking stronger actions then the IFC.


GENA is not accepting fascists, it does not suddenly become true if you just keep repeating your lies.
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Postby New Aeyariss » Sun Jun 26, 2022 8:14 am

@ Phenyzia

I am bored.

Would you be willing to have a war RP about Nifonese attack on your colonies?

I will use an alt-canon for this due to size of your nation.
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Postby The Military State of the Galapagos » Sun Jun 26, 2022 8:27 am

Phenyzia wrote:
SOUTH OLPEN wrote:GENA is an F. Acceptinbg fascists will eventually turn this into a , what was that, whatever Laka was in during the UCA Mereyica-SM hostilities. If I wasn't having an organized arc that leaves little room for alternation, then would be taking stronger actions then the IFC.


GENA is not accepting fascists, it does not suddenly become true if you just keep repeating your lies.

South Olpen was a founder of the GCN (GENA with a different name) and besides they didn’t just start accepting fascists, their owner has never had an election (to my knowledge correct me with a link if I’m wrong)
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Postby Southeast Marajarbia » Sun Jun 26, 2022 8:37 am

New Aeyariss wrote:@ Phenyzia

I am bored.

Would you be willing to have a war RP about Nifonese attack on your colonies?

I will use an alt-canon for this due to size of your nation.


This isn’t the place for this. Please refrain from posting stuff like this here, and instead move it to TGs.
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Postby South Olpen » Sun Jun 26, 2022 8:45 am

Talonica wrote:Full Nation Name: The Dictatorship of Talonica
Head of Government: Comrade Meow
Head of State: Comrade Meow
Are you a puppet? If so, who?: TKI
Name of Representative?: Alex Callum
Political Ideology of nation? (Communism, Capitalism, or Socialism?): Communist Dictatorship
What branch(es) would your nation like to be a part of?: Military Affairs branch
Unity and Stability branch
Reasons for joining GENA (Stated)?: to expand Diplomacy to help rebuild from the Revolution that Installed the Communist government
Reasons for joining GENA (Actual)?: to get help to rebuild
Will you follow the rules?: yes

Phenyzia wrote:Full Nation Name: The Greater Kaiserreich of Phenyzia
Head of Government: Reichskanzler Alexander Richter
Head of State: Kaiser Friedrich IV
Are you a puppet? If so, who?: Not a puppet
Name of Representative?: Baron Johann von Hollweg
Political Ideology of nation? (Communism, Capitalism, or Socialism?): Chinese-styled State Capitalism, Monarchism
What branch(es) would your nation like to be a part of?: Military Affairs Branch, Unity and Stability Branch, Foreign Affairs Branch, Joint Colonial Affairs Branch
Reasons for joining GENA (Stated)?: Ensuring stability for the current global order, joining since we were already members of the GCN.
Reasons for joining GENA (Actual)?: A more aggressive anti-communist stance is to be taken in international affairs, especially with concerns regarding KTO's attempts to spread communism.
Will you follow the rules?: Of course
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Postby Phenyzia » Sun Jun 26, 2022 9:18 am

SOUTH OLPEN wrote:
Talonica wrote:Full Nation Name: The Dictatorship of Talonica
Head of Government: Comrade Meow
Head of State: Comrade Meow
Are you a puppet? If so, who?: TKI
Name of Representative?: Alex Callum
Political Ideology of nation? (Communism, Capitalism, or Socialism?): Communist Dictatorship
What branch(es) would your nation like to be a part of?: Military Affairs branch
Unity and Stability branch
Reasons for joining GENA (Stated)?: to expand Diplomacy to help rebuild from the Revolution that Installed the Communist government
Reasons for joining GENA (Actual)?: to get help to rebuild
Will you follow the rules?: yes

Phenyzia wrote:Full Nation Name: The Greater Kaiserreich of Phenyzia
Head of Government: Reichskanzler Alexander Richter
Head of State: Kaiser Friedrich IV
Are you a puppet? If so, who?: Not a puppet
Name of Representative?: Baron Johann von Hollweg
Political Ideology of nation? (Communism, Capitalism, or Socialism?): Chinese-styled State Capitalism, Monarchism
What branch(es) would your nation like to be a part of?: Military Affairs Branch, Unity and Stability Branch, Foreign Affairs Branch, Joint Colonial Affairs Branch
Reasons for joining GENA (Stated)?: Ensuring stability for the current global order, joining since we were already members of the GCN.
Reasons for joining GENA (Actual)?: A more aggressive anti-communist stance is to be taken in international affairs, especially with concerns regarding KTO's attempts to spread communism.
Will you follow the rules?: Of course


A communist and a monarchy. I think you need to look up the difference between authoritarian and fascism.
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Postby Aursi » Sun Jun 26, 2022 9:52 am

What the IC year rn?
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Postby Southeast Marajarbia » Sun Jun 26, 2022 10:10 am

Aursi wrote:What the IC year rn?


Time skip says late 2030-early 2031 for GENA.
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Postby Southeast Marajarbia » Sun Jun 26, 2022 11:42 am

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Opinion: GENA Delenda Est


Once upon a time, international relations were stable. The United Left, Santiago Anti-Communist Treaty Organization, and the International Freedom Coalition kept each other in check and allowed a balance of power. International relations were stable. Then The United Motherland tore down the United Left, destroying the balance of power. The resulting power struggle between SACTO and IFC lead to both alliances declining and becoming inactive. This was the worst thing for international relations.

It took several years, but a series of upstart alliances have tried to fill the void. These alliances, culminating in the Global Confederation of Nations followed by the Global Entente of Nations and Alliances. These alliances claimed to be for democracy, bringing in other alliances to create a forum for dialogue, and bringing peace to the world. But these alliances failed in that.

From now on, this piece will only refer to the Global Entente of Nations and Alliances (GENA), but many of these points apply to the Global Confederation of Nations as well. GENA lost the right to call itself a democratic organization when it brought in the League of Independent States (LIS), a group that stated up front that it was anti-democracy. And it sits idly by while the state that founded LIS, Phenyzia, runs amok murdering civilians across Europe and enslaves thousands, if not millions in its colonial possessions. Even with the arrest of slavers, conditions are not improving for those in these colonies.

Even before the absorption of LIS, GENA was on a negative path. From the beginning, the point of GENA was never about spreading democracy, it was about controlling the world. To join GENA means to lose sovereignty. The preamble of its constitution – note how GENA has a constitution like a nation and not a charter like organizations do – states how the two agendas are the Legislate, Enforce, and Control and to create the New World Order. These show that GENA wants to control the member states and create the New World Order run by the oligarchical committee of “Founders”.

In Article 7 of this constitution, GENA gives its judiciary to persecute anyone who criticizes GENA (and once this article is published, that will include myself). It states that it will prosecute “individuals from economic or political rival nations and alliances who seek to spread blatant falsehoods and instigate violence through bias and propaganda without the usage of valid fact checkers”, but GENA itself controls the narrative for what is a “blatant falsehood”. And they can reject “fact checkers” if their findings are not to the oligarchs’ liking. Needless to say, as an outspoken critic of GENA, I will not be traveling to a GENA member state or nation with an extradition treaty to a GENA member state.

Back in 2015, the IFC condemned colonization. Shortly after the Senate passed a similar statement in solidarity. GENA, on the other hand, has decided that colonization is perfectly acceptable practice, and is a great “spoil of war”. Nothing says humanitarian alliance like colonizing your enemies! In the end, the article codifying colonization, Article 9, just feeds into the LEC and NWO agendas. It is how GENA strives to control those who oppose it. Invade, massacre, and force the nation to join. Colonization is an archaic practice. It has no place in the modern world where self-determination is key.

GENA wants nothing but control. I hope that my previous points have shown the reader that. But the penultimate article of the GENA constitution (Article 13) shows that. They only care about expansion. And once GENA has its claws in your alliance, it’s impossible to escape. Article 13 requires that alliances that wish to leave to pass 3 votes, one in each of GENA’s legislatures. This has the effect of if the oligarchs don’t want an alliance to leave, the alliance won’t. Self determination is nonextant in GENA, and soon so will sovereignty.

GENA presents a clear and present danger to the world as a whole. This is why I led the authoring of the revised Resolution 27b currently being debated in the IFC Council. This resolution takes all my previously stated points and condemns GENA. Globalization on this scale is a threat to national sovereignty. It is a threat to freedom. It is a threat to democracy. My tri-partisan group that authored Resolution 27b did not agree on everything, and it is a lot less hostile than I was hoping. But those in the other parties wished for an opening of democracy, so we compromised. This is what democracy is about. Working together to get the job done. Yes, we disagree. Yes, we are inefficient. But that is just how this works. GENA doesn’t want what we have. It doesn’t want what the IFC has. It wants control. It wants to be the only nation in the world, controlling everything.

GENA dēlenda est.
Marcus Porcius Cato is a Senator and a leading member in the Optimates party.





Opinion: Creating a New Normal In Foreign Relations


I come from a long line of politicians. My family has worked in politics in some capacity for the last 150 years. Not all of it was on the national stage. Some were local, some provincial. But we are politicians. When I joined the foreign ministry out of college, my family was a bit shocked. They had lined a job up for me as a Senator’s aid. A job that would allow me to learn the trade and make connections. But I wanted my own path. I went abroad and worked in embassies. I have been at peace talks and have witnessed the rise and fall of many, many alliances. I even was the aide to Gegania Apellina in the IFC Council before she was Speaker. My experiences have shown me that the political landscape in foreign relations is never static. And to long for a time in the past is futile. We will never have the stable era of three giants again. Instead, we must focus on the future.

My colleague, Senator Cato, informed me of the opinion piece he was writing and even had me read over it. Though I disagree with him on many topics, he knows I will keep it straight with him. And that is why I am writing this piece to come out at the same time as his article. The Roman people know we work together but also disagree. This is my rebuttal.

I worked with Cato and a number of other Senators on the creation of Resolution 27b. Frankly, I don’t like it. But my reasons for not liking it is neither here nor there. As I stated in my introduction, international relations are a constantly changing landscape. We must open lines of dialogue with all nations, even those who we may be hostile with. That is why I have championed a thawing of relations with SACTO nations. We must have open dialogue to keep a stable world.

Global Entente of Nations and Alliances (GENA) is no different. This alliance may not hold the same values as this great nation, or our alliance, but that does not mean we should cut off relations and play in our own corner. Like it or not, GENA is a large alliance with many nations in it. There is trading potential there. Opening relations would be mutually beneficial. I was hoping for more negotiation wording to be put in Resolution 27b, but what my fellow Senators and I were able to get in there is a start. It creates a solid foundation for us to go in the future and build upon it.

I hope that one day we – the nations of the IFC – and the nations of GENA will be able to have a summit to talk out our differences and work on getting relations normalized. Until that happens, I will work in the Senate to get the NRI to do that on its own. We shall spearhead the start of a new age in foreign relations. United we stand, divided we fall.
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EDIT: Fixed typo of New World Order acronym (NOW to NWO)



I do not think that anyone would want to do business with the NRI at all. There is too much aggression and very little diplomacy, and I’m pretty certain that diplomacy with GENA isn’t that popular an idea in the opinions of those in the NRI.

Hate to break it to you, but if you truly want diplomacy NRR, the Marajarbian Government will want to see if it’s a popular idea with the people of both nations first. Same might fall for others, seeing as how you wrote two opinion articles for two different characters which contradict each other.
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Postby Guadalupador » Sun Jun 26, 2022 11:48 am

Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
I do not think that anyone would want to do business with the NRI at all. There is too much aggression and very little diplomacy, and I’m pretty certain that diplomacy with GENA isn’t that popular an idea in the opinions of those in the NRI.

Hate to break it to you, but if you truly want diplomacy NRR, the Marajarbian Government will want to see if it’s a popular idea with the people of both nations first. Same might fall for others, seeing as how you wrote two opinion articles for two different characters which contradict each other.

That's the point of an opinion article, the two senators are at odds about engaging with GENA.

They're disagreeing with each other on how best to talk to GENA, of course they contradict each other, it's actually very realistic for people in power to have opposing viewpoints on a matter.
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Postby Southeast Marajarbia » Sun Jun 26, 2022 11:56 am

Guadalupador wrote:
Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
I do not think that anyone would want to do business with the NRI at all. There is too much aggression and very little diplomacy, and I’m pretty certain that diplomacy with GENA isn’t that popular an idea in the opinions of those in the NRI.

Hate to break it to you, but if you truly want diplomacy NRR, the Marajarbian Government will want to see if it’s a popular idea with the people of both nations first. Same might fall for others, seeing as how you wrote two opinion articles for two different characters which contradict each other.

That's the point of an opinion article, the two senators are at odds about engaging with GENA.

They're disagreeing with each other on how best to talk to GENA, of course they contradict each other, it's actually very realistic for people in power to have opposing viewpoints on a matter.


It's more realistic to see an alliance try a diplomatic approach rather than an aggressive approach to certain scenarios, but eh, this is a fictional political simulator game where just about any form of bullshit can genuinely happen in great detail 2/3rds of the time after all.
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Postby Awesome Imperium » Sun Jun 26, 2022 12:00 pm

Full Nation Name: Amerionic Principate of Awesome Imperium
Head of Government: Proconsul Alex Cooper and President Luna Impervia
Head of State: Emperess Julia Ivsilla Aestiva
Are you a puppet? If so, who?: No
Name of Representative?: Castor Heim
Political Ideology of nation? (Communism, Capitalism, or Socialism?): Capitalism
What branch(es) would your nation like to be a part of?: Foreign Affairs Branch, Military Affairs Branch, and Unity and Stability Branch.
Reasons for joining GENA (Stated)?: To be more involved in the global community and geopolitics
Reasons for joining GENA (Actual)?: Same as above + gaining influence and power.
Will you follow the rules?: YES.

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Postby Southeast Marajarbia » Sun Jun 26, 2022 12:04 pm

Awesome Imperium wrote:Full Nation Name: Amerionic Principate of Awesome Imperium
Head of Government: Proconsul Alex Cooper and President Luna Impervia
Head of State: Emperess Julia Ivsilla Aestiva
Are you a puppet? If so, who?: No
Name of Representative?: Castor Heim
Political Ideology of nation? (Communism, Capitalism, or Socialism?): Capitalism
What branch(es) would your nation like to be a part of?: Foreign Affairs Branch, Military Affairs Branch, and Unity and Stability Branch.
Reasons for joining GENA (Stated)?: To be more involved in the global community and geopolitics
Reasons for joining GENA (Actual)?: Same as above + gaining influence and power.
Will you follow the rules?: YES.


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Postby Talonica » Sun Jun 26, 2022 12:04 pm

Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
New Roma Republic wrote:



Opinion: GENA Delenda Est


Once upon a time, international relations were stable. The United Left, Santiago Anti-Communist Treaty Organization, and the International Freedom Coalition kept each other in check and allowed a balance of power. International relations were stable. Then The United Motherland tore down the United Left, destroying the balance of power. The resulting power struggle between SACTO and IFC lead to both alliances declining and becoming inactive. This was the worst thing for international relations.

It took several years, but a series of upstart alliances have tried to fill the void. These alliances, culminating in the Global Confederation of Nations followed by the Global Entente of Nations and Alliances. These alliances claimed to be for democracy, bringing in other alliances to create a forum for dialogue, and bringing peace to the world. But these alliances failed in that.

From now on, this piece will only refer to the Global Entente of Nations and Alliances (GENA), but many of these points apply to the Global Confederation of Nations as well. GENA lost the right to call itself a democratic organization when it brought in the League of Independent States (LIS), a group that stated up front that it was anti-democracy. And it sits idly by while the state that founded LIS, Phenyzia, runs amok murdering civilians across Europe and enslaves thousands, if not millions in its colonial possessions. Even with the arrest of slavers, conditions are not improving for those in these colonies.

Even before the absorption of LIS, GENA was on a negative path. From the beginning, the point of GENA was never about spreading democracy, it was about controlling the world. To join GENA means to lose sovereignty. The preamble of its constitution – note how GENA has a constitution like a nation and not a charter like organizations do – states how the two agendas are the Legislate, Enforce, and Control and to create the New World Order. These show that GENA wants to control the member states and create the New World Order run by the oligarchical committee of “Founders”.

In Article 7 of this constitution, GENA gives its judiciary to persecute anyone who criticizes GENA (and once this article is published, that will include myself). It states that it will prosecute “individuals from economic or political rival nations and alliances who seek to spread blatant falsehoods and instigate violence through bias and propaganda without the usage of valid fact checkers”, but GENA itself controls the narrative for what is a “blatant falsehood”. And they can reject “fact checkers” if their findings are not to the oligarchs’ liking. Needless to say, as an outspoken critic of GENA, I will not be traveling to a GENA member state or nation with an extradition treaty to a GENA member state.

Back in 2015, the IFC condemned colonization. Shortly after the Senate passed a similar statement in solidarity. GENA, on the other hand, has decided that colonization is perfectly acceptable practice, and is a great “spoil of war”. Nothing says humanitarian alliance like colonizing your enemies! In the end, the article codifying colonization, Article 9, just feeds into the LEC and NWO agendas. It is how GENA strives to control those who oppose it. Invade, massacre, and force the nation to join. Colonization is an archaic practice. It has no place in the modern world where self-determination is key.

GENA wants nothing but control. I hope that my previous points have shown the reader that. But the penultimate article of the GENA constitution (Article 13) shows that. They only care about expansion. And once GENA has its claws in your alliance, it’s impossible to escape. Article 13 requires that alliances that wish to leave to pass 3 votes, one in each of GENA’s legislatures. This has the effect of if the oligarchs don’t want an alliance to leave, the alliance won’t. Self determination is nonextant in GENA, and soon so will sovereignty.

GENA presents a clear and present danger to the world as a whole. This is why I led the authoring of the revised Resolution 27b currently being debated in the IFC Council. This resolution takes all my previously stated points and condemns GENA. Globalization on this scale is a threat to national sovereignty. It is a threat to freedom. It is a threat to democracy. My tri-partisan group that authored Resolution 27b did not agree on everything, and it is a lot less hostile than I was hoping. But those in the other parties wished for an opening of democracy, so we compromised. This is what democracy is about. Working together to get the job done. Yes, we disagree. Yes, we are inefficient. But that is just how this works. GENA doesn’t want what we have. It doesn’t want what the IFC has. It wants control. It wants to be the only nation in the world, controlling everything.

GENA dēlenda est.
Marcus Porcius Cato is a Senator and a leading member in the Optimates party.





Opinion: Creating a New Normal In Foreign Relations


I come from a long line of politicians. My family has worked in politics in some capacity for the last 150 years. Not all of it was on the national stage. Some were local, some provincial. But we are politicians. When I joined the foreign ministry out of college, my family was a bit shocked. They had lined a job up for me as a Senator’s aid. A job that would allow me to learn the trade and make connections. But I wanted my own path. I went abroad and worked in embassies. I have been at peace talks and have witnessed the rise and fall of many, many alliances. I even was the aide to Gegania Apellina in the IFC Council before she was Speaker. My experiences have shown me that the political landscape in foreign relations is never static. And to long for a time in the past is futile. We will never have the stable era of three giants again. Instead, we must focus on the future.

My colleague, Senator Cato, informed me of the opinion piece he was writing and even had me read over it. Though I disagree with him on many topics, he knows I will keep it straight with him. And that is why I am writing this piece to come out at the same time as his article. The Roman people know we work together but also disagree. This is my rebuttal.

I worked with Cato and a number of other Senators on the creation of Resolution 27b. Frankly, I don’t like it. But my reasons for not liking it is neither here nor there. As I stated in my introduction, international relations are a constantly changing landscape. We must open lines of dialogue with all nations, even those who we may be hostile with. That is why I have championed a thawing of relations with SACTO nations. We must have open dialogue to keep a stable world.

Global Entente of Nations and Alliances (GENA) is no different. This alliance may not hold the same values as this great nation, or our alliance, but that does not mean we should cut off relations and play in our own corner. Like it or not, GENA is a large alliance with many nations in it. There is trading potential there. Opening relations would be mutually beneficial. I was hoping for more negotiation wording to be put in Resolution 27b, but what my fellow Senators and I were able to get in there is a start. It creates a solid foundation for us to go in the future and build upon it.

I hope that one day we – the nations of the IFC – and the nations of GENA will be able to have a summit to talk out our differences and work on getting relations normalized. Until that happens, I will work in the Senate to get the NRI to do that on its own. We shall spearhead the start of a new age in foreign relations. United we stand, divided we fall.
Seia Libois a Senator and the ranking Senator in the Populares party.


EDIT: Fixed typo of New World Order acronym (NOW to NWO)



I do not think that anyone would want to do business with the NRI at all. There is too much aggression and very little diplomacy, and I’m pretty certain that diplomacy with GENA isn’t that popular an idea in the opinions of those in the NRI.

Hate to break it to you, but if you truly want diplomacy NRR, the Marajarbian Government will want to see if it’s a popular idea with the people of both nations first. Same might fall for others, seeing as how you wrote two opinion articles for two different characters which contradict each other.

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Opinion: GENA Delenda Est


Once upon a time, international relations were stable. The United Left, Santiago Anti-Communist Treaty Organization, and the International Freedom Coalition kept each other in check and allowed a balance of power. International relations were stable. Then The United Motherland tore down the United Left, destroying the balance of power. The resulting power struggle between SACTO and IFC lead to both alliances declining and becoming inactive. This was the worst thing for international relations.

It took several years, but a series of upstart alliances have tried to fill the void. These alliances, culminating in the Global Confederation of Nations followed by the Global Entente of Nations and Alliances. These alliances claimed to be for democracy, bringing in other alliances to create a forum for dialogue, and bringing peace to the world. But these alliances failed in that.

From now on, this piece will only refer to the Global Entente of Nations and Alliances (GENA), but many of these points apply to the Global Confederation of Nations as well. GENA lost the right to call itself a democratic organization when it brought in the League of Independent States (LIS), a group that stated up front that it was anti-democracy. And it sits idly by while the state that founded LIS, Phenyzia, runs amok murdering civilians across Europe and enslaves thousands, if not millions in its colonial possessions. Even with the arrest of slavers, conditions are not improving for those in these colonies.

Even before the absorption of LIS, GENA was on a negative path. From the beginning, the point of GENA was never about spreading democracy, it was about controlling the world. To join GENA means to lose sovereignty. The preamble of its constitution – note how GENA has a constitution like a nation and not a charter like organizations do – states how the two agendas are the Legislate, Enforce, and Control and to create the New World Order. These show that GENA wants to control the member states and create the New World Order run by the oligarchical committee of “Founders”.

In Article 7 of this constitution, GENA gives its judiciary to persecute anyone who criticizes GENA (and once this article is published, that will include myself). It states that it will prosecute “individuals from economic or political rival nations and alliances who seek to spread blatant falsehoods and instigate violence through bias and propaganda without the usage of valid fact checkers”, but GENA itself controls the narrative for what is a “blatant falsehood”. And they can reject “fact checkers” if their findings are not to the oligarchs’ liking. Needless to say, as an outspoken critic of GENA, I will not be traveling to a GENA member state or nation with an extradition treaty to a GENA member state.

Back in 2015, the IFC condemned colonization. Shortly after the Senate passed a similar statement in solidarity. GENA, on the other hand, has decided that colonization is perfectly acceptable practice, and is a great “spoil of war”. Nothing says humanitarian alliance like colonizing your enemies! In the end, the article codifying colonization, Article 9, just feeds into the LEC and NWO agendas. It is how GENA strives to control those who oppose it. Invade, massacre, and force the nation to join. Colonization is an archaic practice. It has no place in the modern world where self-determination is key.

GENA wants nothing but control. I hope that my previous points have shown the reader that. But the penultimate article of the GENA constitution (Article 13) shows that. They only care about expansion. And once GENA has its claws in your alliance, it’s impossible to escape. Article 13 requires that alliances that wish to leave to pass 3 votes, one in each of GENA’s legislatures. This has the effect of if the oligarchs don’t want an alliance to leave, the alliance won’t. Self determination is nonextant in GENA, and soon so will sovereignty.

GENA presents a clear and present danger to the world as a whole. This is why I led the authoring of the revised Resolution 27b currently being debated in the IFC Council. This resolution takes all my previously stated points and condemns GENA. Globalization on this scale is a threat to national sovereignty. It is a threat to freedom. It is a threat to democracy. My tri-partisan group that authored Resolution 27b did not agree on everything, and it is a lot less hostile than I was hoping. But those in the other parties wished for an opening of democracy, so we compromised. This is what democracy is about. Working together to get the job done. Yes, we disagree. Yes, we are inefficient. But that is just how this works. GENA doesn’t want what we have. It doesn’t want what the IFC has. It wants control. It wants to be the only nation in the world, controlling everything.

GENA dēlenda est.
Marcus Porcius Cato is a Senator and a leading member in the Optimates party.





Opinion: Creating a New Normal In Foreign Relations


I come from a long line of politicians. My family has worked in politics in some capacity for the last 150 years. Not all of it was on the national stage. Some were local, some provincial. But we are politicians. When I joined the foreign ministry out of college, my family was a bit shocked. They had lined a job up for me as a Senator’s aid. A job that would allow me to learn the trade and make connections. But I wanted my own path. I went abroad and worked in embassies. I have been at peace talks and have witnessed the rise and fall of many, many alliances. I even was the aide to Gegania Apellina in the IFC Council before she was Speaker. My experiences have shown me that the political landscape in foreign relations is never static. And to long for a time in the past is futile. We will never have the stable era of three giants again. Instead, we must focus on the future.

My colleague, Senator Cato, informed me of the opinion piece he was writing and even had me read over it. Though I disagree with him on many topics, he knows I will keep it straight with him. And that is why I am writing this piece to come out at the same time as his article. The Roman people know we work together but also disagree. This is my rebuttal.

I worked with Cato and a number of other Senators on the creation of Resolution 27b. Frankly, I don’t like it. But my reasons for not liking it is neither here nor there. As I stated in my introduction, international relations are a constantly changing landscape. We must open lines of dialogue with all nations, even those who we may be hostile with. That is why I have championed a thawing of relations with SACTO nations. We must have open dialogue to keep a stable world.

Global Entente of Nations and Alliances (GENA) is no different. This alliance may not hold the same values as this great nation, or our alliance, but that does not mean we should cut off relations and play in our own corner. Like it or not, GENA is a large alliance with many nations in it. There is trading potential there. Opening relations would be mutually beneficial. I was hoping for more negotiation wording to be put in Resolution 27b, but what my fellow Senators and I were able to get in there is a start. It creates a solid foundation for us to go in the future and build upon it.

I hope that one day we – the nations of the IFC – and the nations of GENA will be able to have a summit to talk out our differences and work on getting relations normalized. Until that happens, I will work in the Senate to get the NRI to do that on its own. We shall spearhead the start of a new age in foreign relations. United we stand, divided we fall.
Seia Libois a Senator and the ranking Senator in the Populares party.


EDIT: Fixed typo of New World Order acronym (NOW to NWO)



I do not think that anyone would want to do business with the NRI at all. There is too much aggression and very little diplomacy, and I’m pretty certain that diplomacy with GENA isn’t that popular an idea in the opinions of those in the NRI.

Hate to break it to you, but if you truly want diplomacy NRR, the Marajarbian Government will want to see if it’s a popular idea with the people of both nations first. Same might fall for others, seeing as how you wrote two opinion articles for two different characters which contradict each other.

These aren't policy documents. Cato is a hardliner. I don't see much in the way of aggression. There are condemnations of a GENA memberstate, yes, but no one in the executive branch is calling for war with GENA
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Postby Southeast Marajarbia » Sun Jun 26, 2022 2:34 pm

New Roma Republic wrote:
Southeast Marajarbia wrote:

I do not think that anyone would want to do business with the NRI at all. There is too much aggression and very little diplomacy, and I’m pretty certain that diplomacy with GENA isn’t that popular an idea in the opinions of those in the NRI.

Hate to break it to you, but if you truly want diplomacy NRR, the Marajarbian Government will want to see if it’s a popular idea with the people of both nations first. Same might fall for others, seeing as how you wrote two opinion articles for two different characters which contradict each other.

These aren't policy documents. Cato is a hardliner. I don't see much in the way of aggression. There are condemnations of a GENA memberstate, yes, but no one in the executive branch is calling for war with GENA


Looks at IFC condemnation

Yes…no aggression at all.
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Postby Zarnicovia nova » Sun Jun 26, 2022 2:38 pm

Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
New Roma Republic wrote:These aren't policy documents. Cato is a hardliner. I don't see much in the way of aggression. There are condemnations of a GENA memberstate, yes, but no one in the executive branch is calling for war with GENA


Looks at IFC condemnation

Yes…no aggression at all.

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Yes… no support of authoritarianism at all.
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Postby New Roma Republic » Sun Jun 26, 2022 2:45 pm

Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
New Roma Republic wrote:These aren't policy documents. Cato is a hardliner. I don't see much in the way of aggression. There are condemnations of a GENA memberstate, yes, but no one in the executive branch is calling for war with GENA


Looks at IFC condemnation

Yes…no aggression at all.

Again, no one in the Roman executive branch is calling for war. If the Marajarbian Government is scared of that, they're jumping at shadows

Also, as you've said multiple times, the IFC condemnation doesn't matter, so the Marajarbian Government shouldn't be worried about that
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Postby Southeast Marajarbia » Sun Jun 26, 2022 2:57 pm

New Roma Republic wrote:
Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
Looks at IFC condemnation

Yes…no aggression at all.

Again, no one in the Roman executive branch is calling for war. If the Marajarbian Government is scared of that, they're jumping at shadows

Also, as you've said multiple times, the IFC condemnation doesn't matter, so the Marajarbian Government shouldn't be worried about that


If you truly want diplomacy, the Marajarbian Govt. will want to see a referendum on it in both nations. Will you hold one, though?
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Postby New Roma Republic » Sun Jun 26, 2022 3:09 pm

Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
New Roma Republic wrote:Again, no one in the Roman executive branch is calling for war. If the Marajarbian Government is scared of that, they're jumping at shadows

Also, as you've said multiple times, the IFC condemnation doesn't matter, so the Marajarbian Government shouldn't be worried about that


If you truly want diplomacy, the Marajarbian Govt. will want to see a referendum on it in both nations. Will you hold one, though?


The NRI does no hold referendums to determine its foreign policy, so this would never cross the minds of anyone in the government to do that. The closest thing to a "referendum" for foreign policy is the Caesar and Senate elections. It would probably take a formal request from the Marajarbian Government for them to even consider it. And then a debate and vote in the Senate, which then would go to the Caesar to sign into law. If vetoed, it would go back to the Senate who could over turn the veto via a second vote with a 3/4 majority for
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Postby Southeast Marajarbia » Sun Jun 26, 2022 3:16 pm

New Roma Republic wrote:
Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
If you truly want diplomacy, the Marajarbian Govt. will want to see a referendum on it in both nations. Will you hold one, though?


The NRI does no hold referendums to determine its foreign policy, so this would never cross the minds of anyone in the government to do that. The closest thing to a "referendum" for foreign policy is the Caesar and Senate elections. It would probably take a formal request from the Marajarbian Government for them to even consider it. And then a debate and vote in the Senate, which then would go to the Caesar to sign into law. If vetoed, it would go back to the Senate who could over turn the veto via a second vote with a 3/4 majority for


Then do that. It’s better to see if establishing diplomatic relations is possible.
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