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Talonica
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Postby Talonica » Sat Jun 25, 2022 11:23 am

Biladu Al Rafidayn wrote:
Talonica wrote:You seem to be concerned when I do it, yet you have no qualms about other nations doing it.

And here comes the Phenyzia argument again. Let me write it here:

I. Had. No. Choice.

You actually did. No one was pointing a gun to your Head and Saying you had to. That argument is invalid.
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Biladu Al Rafidayn
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Postby Biladu Al Rafidayn » Sat Jun 25, 2022 11:30 am

Talonica wrote:
Biladu Al Rafidayn wrote:And here comes the Phenyzia argument again. Let me write it here:

I. Had. No. Choice.

You actually did. No one was pointing a gun to your Head and Saying you had to. That argument is invalid.

Maybe look at Janpia pointing a gun at my head
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Janpia
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Postby Janpia » Sun Jun 26, 2022 2:56 am

Biladu Al Rafidayn wrote:
Talonica wrote:You actually did. No one was pointing a gun to your Head and Saying you had to. That argument is invalid.

Maybe look at Janpia pointing a gun at my head


Ya do realize that ZN contributed A LOT during the invasion, yet I still kick him out for war crimes.

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Biladu Al Rafidayn
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Postby Biladu Al Rafidayn » Sun Jun 26, 2022 2:58 am

Janpia wrote:
Biladu Al Rafidayn wrote:Maybe look at Janpia pointing a gun at my head


Ya do realize that ZN contributed A LOT during the invasion, yet I still kick him out for war crimes.

ZN wasn’t really landing or anything except in Egypt, and Egypt was Oceania’s speciality
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Postby Phenyzia » Sun Jun 26, 2022 3:09 am

Janpia wrote:
Biladu Al Rafidayn wrote:Maybe look at Janpia pointing a gun at my head


Ya do realize that ZN contributed A LOT during the invasion, yet I still kick him out for war crimes.


If you did actually care about warcrimes you'd be kicking out Gonswanza, Oceania and Galapagos too, not just ZN. So stop trying to pretend you care.
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Janpia
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Postby Janpia » Sun Jun 26, 2022 4:09 am

Phenyzia wrote:
Janpia wrote:
Ya do realize that ZN contributed A LOT during the invasion, yet I still kick him out for war crimes.


If you did actually care about warcrimes you'd be kicking out Gonswanza, Oceania and Galapagos too, not just ZN. So stop trying to pretend you care.


Alas, no one talks loud about Gonswanza. Galapagos didnt commit war crimes on Muqaddasia, and GO only held Egypt doing COIN operations.

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- NS policies ain't real. (No prison policy? HAA)
- Yes. I am your average tankie commie.
- Nation doesn't totally reflect my political views.(Damn you random policies!)
- No. I ain't no FT nation
- Check my military equipments. Worked hard on dem drawings
- Currently trying to improve my RP quality, and improving past pain write-ups
-My favorite past time read. Probably the reference for my deathstar. But I still swear that I'm not an FT nation
- Sometimes I wonder what am I doing with my export program
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Southeast Marajarbia
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Postby Southeast Marajarbia » Sun Jun 26, 2022 5:04 am

If no one has seen the RMB, I would like GENA members to pay close attention to this: viewtopic.php?f=5&t=520381

There is a brand new, truly rival alliance in the works, and a third Cold War by extension. This is going to likely be pretty big, but not as big as the last one. Hopefully also not too far as the one against the KTO went, too.
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The Military State of the Galapagos
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Postby The Military State of the Galapagos » Sun Jun 26, 2022 5:25 am

Phenyzia wrote:
Janpia wrote:
Ya do realize that ZN contributed A LOT during the invasion, yet I still kick him out for war crimes.


If you did actually care about warcrimes you'd be kicking out Gonswanza, Oceania and Galapagos too, not just ZN. So stop trying to pretend you care.

I stopped committing warcrimes when SM left my country for good. Gonswanza is decanonized for being “FT” even though SM is the one that uses mechs
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Talonica
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Postby Talonica » Sun Jun 26, 2022 5:34 am

Biladu Al Rafidayn wrote:
Talonica wrote:You actually did. No one was pointing a gun to your Head and Saying you had to. That argument is invalid.

Maybe look at Janpia pointing a gun at my head

Please just Accept me
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Talonica
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Postby Talonica » Sun Jun 26, 2022 5:37 am

And also, there is no Rule that says "you can't ban protests"

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Islamic Holy Sites
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Postby Islamic Holy Sites » Sun Jun 26, 2022 5:38 am

Talonica wrote:And also, there is no Rule that says "you can't ban protests"

The new acceptance law only allows democratic nations into GENA, I believe
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Talonica
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Postby Talonica » Sun Jun 26, 2022 5:39 am

Islamic Holy Sites wrote:
Talonica wrote:And also, there is no Rule that says "you can't ban protests"

The new acceptance law only allows democratic nations into GENA, I believe

"OOC:
Rules:

Don't Join and leave until after 48 hours have passed
Only 3 nations allowed to join (Main alongside 2 puppets, or three puppets. Confirm if account is OOC or IC puppet and of who first)
Don't Spam
Be a week old to join alliance
Try to limit OOC posts on IC thread to OOC thread
Don't spam TGs for regional password"

It says nothing about being democratic
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Biladu Al Rafidayn
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Postby Biladu Al Rafidayn » Sun Jun 26, 2022 5:41 am

Talonica wrote:
Islamic Holy Sites wrote:The new acceptance law only allows democratic nations into GENA, I believe

"OOC:
Rules:

Don't Join and leave until after 48 hours have passed
Only 3 nations allowed to join (Main alongside 2 puppets, or three puppets. Confirm if account is OOC or IC puppet and of who first)
Don't Spam
Be a week old to join alliance
Try to limit OOC posts on IC thread to OOC thread
Don't spam TGs for regional password"

It says nothing about being democratic

The rules are not updated, I think. Check the legislative assembly
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Talonica
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Postby Talonica » Sun Jun 26, 2022 5:44 am

Biladu Al Rafidayn wrote:
Talonica wrote:"OOC:
Rules:

Don't Join and leave until after 48 hours have passed
Only 3 nations allowed to join (Main alongside 2 puppets, or three puppets. Confirm if account is OOC or IC puppet and of who first)
Don't Spam
Be a week old to join alliance
Try to limit OOC posts on IC thread to OOC thread
Don't spam TGs for regional password"

It says nothing about being democratic

The rules are not updated, I think. Check the legislative assembly

Yeah, but I was already accepted by SM

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Southeast Marajarbia
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Postby Southeast Marajarbia » Sun Jun 26, 2022 6:25 am

New Roma Republic wrote:"Ladies and Gentleman of the Council, while we are voting on Resolution 29, I have been sent a proposed revision to Resolution 27a. This was written and drafted by my nation's legislature. They have requested I submit this resolution post-haste. It has been updated to include Phenyzia's most recent atrocity: the massacre of innocent Parisians."

Federali Unyone do Guadalupador
Galia Elde
Imperatorskaya RossiyaDame Antasia Sedorov
Novus Romanum Imperium
Gegania Apellina




Condemnation of the Global Entente of Nations and Alliances

[Resolution Number: 27b]


FIRMLY COMMITTED to the goals of this very Coalition in the face of extreme opposition from other alliances,

REAFFIRMING Resolution 18,

NOTICING the nature of the Global Entente of Nations and Alliances' need to expand and spread itself across the world which in itself presents a possible danger,

NOTING the preamble of the Global Entente of Nations and Alliances’ Constitution that states the alliance is dedicated to coopting sovereignty from nations through the two agendas of Legislate, Enforce, Control (LEC) and the New World Order (NWO),

NOTING Article 7 of the Global Entente of Nations and Alliances’ Constitution which threatens foreign actors who criticize the Global Entente of Nations and Alliances, which in effect suppresses free speech and press,

NOTING Article 9 of the Global Entente of Nations and Alliances’ Constitution which codifies the abhorrent practice of colonization as a spoil of war,

NOTING Article 13 of the Global Entente of Nations and Alliances’ Constitution which explicitly states that it prevents alliances that have been merged into the Global Entente of Nations and Alliances from leaving without “major repercussions”, while making it nearly impossible to leave the Entente,

REACTING to the blatant war crimes and treaty violations committed by a member (Phenyzia) of the Global Entente of Nations and Alliances (GENA), and the leadership of the respective alliance's inaction on disciplining said member,

The Council of the International Freedom Coalition:

CONDEMNS in the strongest possible manner, the entirety of the Global Entente of Nations and Alliances for its suppression of freedoms, allowing of colonization, and goal of coopting national sovereignty.

CONDEMNS the Global Entente of Nations and Alliances’ sanctioned use of colonization as a spoil of war called out in the organization’s constitution.

CONDEMNS the nation of Phenyzia for its warcrimes and orders that memberstates of the International Freedom Coalition issues sanctions on both the governmental leadership and economic interests of Phenyzia up to, but not limited it:
    *Prohibition of travel with or without visas
    *Revocation of visas issued to any Phenyzian citizens
    *Total trade embargo, especially towards critical military equipment like computer chips, ammunition, and heavy military equipment
    *Total trade boycott
    *Revocation of any business licenses held in IFC memberstates by Phenyzian citizens

CONDEMNS the partial destruction of Paris and the massacre of Parisians enacted by Phenyzia.

CONDEMNS Phenyzia’s use of the barbaric act of colonization.

REJECTS the contents of the letter from Viktoria von Hohenzollern, Heir-apparent of the Imperial Throne of the Eternal Phenyzian Kaiserreich as actions have shown these were hollow words.

The Council of the International Freedom Coalition requires the Executive Branch of the International Freedom Coalition:
1) Prepare the International Freedom Coalition-Peacekeeping Forces to provide rapid response for the defense of International Freedom Coalition memberstates
2) Establish diplomatic dialogue with the Global Entente of Nations and Alliances
3) Creation of a “Red Line” with Global Entente of Nations and Alliances for emergency use to deescalate crises

Signed,


Galia Elde, Federali Unyone do Guadalupador; Dame Antasia Sedorov, Imperatorskaya Rossiya; Gegania Apellina, New Roman Imperium

NOTE: Added Previous authors names


Putting aside the fact that a condemnation from the IFC against the GENA wouldn't do much outside of one or two minuscule things, it intrigues me to see that IFC is not only condemning the GENA, but also wants to establish a diplomatic form of dialogue between the two all the same. It sounds like a very weird thing to put in a condemnation, but regardless it's good at least someone outside of GENA read the constitution. Only bad thing is the misinterpretation of the LEC agenda, but tbf that might be on me for not clearing that up.
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Talonica
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Postby Talonica » Sun Jun 26, 2022 6:27 am

Can I post in the IC thread since I was accepted?

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Biladu Al Rafidayn
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Postby Biladu Al Rafidayn » Sun Jun 26, 2022 6:30 am

Talonica wrote:Can I post in the IC thread since I was accepted?

No. The rules and me override SM, since he’s done nothing to stop your rejection
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Postby Southeast Marajarbia » Sun Jun 26, 2022 6:31 am

Talonica wrote:Can I post in the IC thread since I was accepted?


Talonican membership is on hold for now until the entire protest thing is taken care of. TKI and East Tideland are accepted, so you can post on both of those on the World Parliament or Legislative Assembly threads.
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Talonica
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Postby Talonica » Sun Jun 26, 2022 6:40 am

Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
Talonica wrote:Can I post in the IC thread since I was accepted?


Talonican membership is on hold for now until the entire protest thing is taken care of. TKI and East Tideland are accepted, so you can post on both of those on the World Parliament or Legislative Assembly threads.

So let me get this straight, Phenyzia was allowed to stay after Killing a bunch of people. Yet we get denied even though no one has been killed by us yet
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Postby Biladu Al Rafidayn » Sun Jun 26, 2022 6:42 am

Talonica wrote:
Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
Talonican membership is on hold for now until the entire protest thing is taken care of. TKI and East Tideland are accepted, so you can post on both of those on the World Parliament or Legislative Assembly threads.

So let me get this straight, Phenyzia was allowed to stay after Killing a bunch of people. Yet we get denied even though no one has been killed by us yet

I didn’t have much choice in that, mate. We suspended him, and I am now looking for diplomatic ways of changing that. They also did arrest 7,000 slavers
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Postby Talonica » Sun Jun 26, 2022 6:44 am

Biladu Al Rafidayn wrote:
Talonica wrote:So let me get this straight, Phenyzia was allowed to stay after Killing a bunch of people. Yet we get denied even though no one has been killed by us yet

I didn’t have much choice in that, mate. We suspended him, and I am now looking for diplomatic ways of changing that. They also did arrest 7,000 slavers

Slavery is Illegal in Talonica too

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Postby Southeast Marajarbia » Sun Jun 26, 2022 6:45 am

Talonica wrote:
Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
Talonican membership is on hold for now until the entire protest thing is taken care of. TKI and East Tideland are accepted, so you can post on both of those on the World Parliament or Legislative Assembly threads.

So let me get this straight, Phenyzia was allowed to stay after Killing a bunch of people. Yet we get denied even though no one has been killed by us yet


Phenyzia has been here since before we passed the Member Entrance Act, so outside of him, nations which have a bad anti-democratic and/or anti-human rights record are denied or put under review until their actions either cease or their stance changes entirely. In your case it’s under review, especially since one founder accepted you while the other one denied you on this account.
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Postby Aursi » Sun Jun 26, 2022 6:46 am

Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
Talonica wrote:So let me get this straight, Phenyzia was allowed to stay after Killing a bunch of people. Yet we get denied even though no one has been killed by us yet


Phenyzia has been here since before we passed the Member Entrance Act, so outside of him, nations which have a bad anti-democratic and/or anti-human rights record are denied or put under review until their actions either cease or their stance changes entirely. In your case it’s under review, especially since one founder accepted you while the other one denied you on this account.

Well, I would accept him. But I think it should be put under review.
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Talonica
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Postby Talonica » Sun Jun 26, 2022 6:47 am

I mean, we'll help eliminate slavery if you want

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Postby Southeast Marajarbia » Sun Jun 26, 2022 6:51 am

Talonica wrote:I mean, we'll help eliminate slavery if you want


Sounds good.
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