Global Entente of Nations & Alliances OOC & Sign Ups

[Southeast Marajarbia]

We are 100% fucked if we don't eject Phenyzia from the alliance. The IFC's making us seem like pariahs, and I don't think ANYONE wants a feud with them too. We've already got KTO to worry about.

Just ignore or decanonize their existence, which is something I've already done to the point in which they do exist, but aren't recognized as an alliance. They are still pretty irrelevant and still don't have much a say in modern politics. Plus it's just a condemnation and contingency plans exist in case they get too pushy.

[Mets Hayk]

We are 100% fucked if we don't eject Phenyzia from the alliance. The IFC's making us seem like pariahs, and I don't think ANYONE wants a feud with them too. We've already got KTO to worry about.

Just ignore or decanonize their existence, which is something I've already done to the point in which they do exist, but aren't recognized as an alliance. They are still pretty irrelevant and still don't have much a say in modern politics. Plus it's just a condemnation and contingency plans exist in case they get too pushy.

Alright then...

[Southeast Marajarbia]

Just ignore or decanonize their existence, which is something I've already done to the point in which they do exist, but aren't recognized as an alliance. They are still pretty irrelevant and still don't have much a say in modern politics. Plus it's just a condemnation and contingency plans exist in case they get too pushy.

Alright then...

Also, forgot to mention that the Cold War with KTO is already over. Not sure why I have to keep on repeating it when its more than obvious that things are getting back on track in an even better manner. There's still some minor yet expected aggression, but both sides are at a period of peace at this point.

[Sebrenskiya]

We are 100% fucked if we don't eject Phenyzia from the alliance. The IFC's making us seem like pariahs, and I don't think ANYONE wants a feud with them too. We've already got KTO to worry about.

Just ignore or decanonize their existence, which is something I've already done to the point in which they do exist, but aren't recognized as an alliance. They are still pretty irrelevant and still don't have much a say in modern politics. Plus it's just a condemnation and contingency plans exist in case they get too pushy.

Just a comment on this: I look forward to irrelevantly enforcing the liberation of Europe, as it were.

The IFC seems pretty clear, stop the wars, stop the annexations. GENA doesn't have to do much but enforce modern human decency. But that's ok, I guess, since the international laws are probably decanonized and therefore irrelevant.

[Phenyzia]

Just ignore or decanonize their existence, which is something I've already done to the point in which they do exist, but aren't recognized as an alliance. They are still pretty irrelevant and still don't have much a say in modern politics. Plus it's just a condemnation and contingency plans exist in case they get too pushy.

Just a comment on this: I look forward to irrelevantly enforcing the liberation of Europe, as it were.

The IFC seems pretty clear, stop the wars, stop the annexations. GENA doesn't have to do much but enforce modern human decency. But that's ok, I guess, since the international laws are probably decanonized and therefore irrelevant.

The Empire was pretty clear that they are willing to negotiate with the IFC on several matters and will not pursue further invasions since they achieved what they consider their natural borders, but returning territory is a red line.

[Sebrenskiya]

Just a comment on this: I look forward to irrelevantly enforcing the liberation of Europe, as it were.

The IFC seems pretty clear, stop the wars, stop the annexations. GENA doesn't have to do much but enforce modern human decency. But that's ok, I guess, since the international laws are probably decanonized and therefore irrelevant.

The Empire was pretty clear that they are willing to negotiate with the IFC on several matters and will not pursue further invasions since they achieved what they consider their natural borders, but returning territory is a red line.

Its a pretty bad red line to die for, i'm not sure that's exactly the best strategy.

But, that's up to you, of course.

[Phenyzia]

The Empire was pretty clear that they are willing to negotiate with the IFC on several matters and will not pursue further invasions since they achieved what they consider their natural borders, but returning territory is a red line.

Its a pretty bad red line to die for, i'm not sure that's exactly the best strategy.

But, that's up to you, of course.

I mean, I do maintain that actually invading a major nuclear power would be an amazingly stupid move. What exactly do you expect happens the moment the IFC tries to go from cold war to hot war and lands troops in europe? That would actually properly threaten the existence of the empire and therefore nukes start flying and the RP is over. There's a reason nobody is seriously considering invading nuclear powers no matter what they do.

[Guadalupador]

Its a pretty bad red line to die for, i'm not sure that's exactly the best strategy.

But, that's up to you, of course.

I mean, I do maintain that actually invading a major nuclear power would be an amazingly stupid move. What exactly do you expect happens the moment the IFC tries to go from cold war to hot war and lands troops in europe? That would actually properly threaten the existence of the empire and therefore nukes start flying and the RP is over. There's a reason nobody is seriously considering invading nuclear powers no matter what they do.

That implies Phenyzia has parity in its arsenal with the collective arsenal of the entire International Freedom Coalition.

[Romanic Imperium]

Bruh. IFC approaching the strait of Gibraltar when I own it and the coasts there

[New Roma Republic]

Bruh. IFC approaching the strait of Gibraltar when I own it and the coasts there

Good thing international waters exist.

Also, it's just Mara, not an IFC operation

[Phenyzia]

I mean, I do maintain that actually invading a major nuclear power would be an amazingly stupid move. What exactly do you expect happens the moment the IFC tries to go from cold war to hot war and lands troops in europe? That would actually properly threaten the existence of the empire and therefore nukes start flying and the RP is over. There's a reason nobody is seriously considering invading nuclear powers no matter what they do.

That implies Phenyzia has parity in its arsenal with the collective arsenal of the entire International Freedom Coalition.

Let me ask you this: Does China have parity with NATO in terms of it's arsenal? It doesn't, not even closely, yet nobody in NATO seriously entertains the idea of invading them no matter what they do.

[Romanic Imperium]

Bruh. IFC approaching the strait of Gibraltar when I own it and the coasts there

Good thing international waters exist.

Also, it's just Mara, not an IFC operation

Hmmmm. Maybe I do another Inspection attempt. Remember NRR

[New Roma Republic]

Good thing international waters exist.

Also, it's just Mara, not an IFC operation

Hmmmm. Maybe I do another Inspection attempt. Remember NRR

No, what are you talking about?

[Romanic Imperium]

Hmmmm. Maybe I do another Inspection attempt. Remember NRR

No, what are you talking about?

The Cypriots civil war. Remember

[New Roma Republic]

No, what are you talking about?

The Cypriots civil war. Remember

Nope, not ringing any bells

[Sebrenskiya]

That implies Phenyzia has parity in its arsenal with the collective arsenal of the entire International Freedom Coalition.

Let me ask you this: Does China have parity with NATO in terms of it's arsenal? It doesn't, not even closely, yet nobody in NATO seriously entertains the idea of invading them no matter what they do.

China doesn't need parity with the whole of NATO (the UK and France do not add much to this, I might add), it just needs relative parity with the United States, which insofar as nuclear weapons are concerned, China is certainly close enough.

China is also a lot closer to parity in military strength with the United States, which is probably also a factor in deterrance.

[Guadalupador]

That implies Phenyzia has parity in its arsenal with the collective arsenal of the entire International Freedom Coalition.

Let me ask you this: Does China have parity with NATO in terms of it's arsenal? It doesn't, not even closely, yet nobody in NATO seriously entertains the idea of invading them no matter what they do.

So here's the thing, in-character, would Phenyzia have any reason to believe that it would be backed up by any allies to help set the weapons parity?

I am reminded of when your country backed down when TECT and the Empire of Shazbotdom, (which is an IFC state btw) put on a show of strength. That implies that you don't have parity with individual states, nonetheless two entire alliances. (Imperion and the IFC) Where were Phenyzia's allies when that happened?

[Romanic Imperium]

The Cypriots civil war. Remember

Nope, not ringing any bells

viewtopic.php?f=5&t=518193

This one. Remember our battle that got cut off?

[Phenyzia]

Let me ask you this: Does China have parity with NATO in terms of it's arsenal? It doesn't, not even closely, yet nobody in NATO seriously entertains the idea of invading them no matter what they do.

China doesn't need parity with the whole of NATO (the UK and France do not add much to this, I might add), it just needs relative parity with the United States, which insofar as nuclear weapons are concerned, China is certainly close enough.

China is also a lot closer to parity in military strength with the United States, which is probably also a factor in deterrance.

If I'm not mistaken their arsenal is about 10% of what the US has.

I do question whether conventional parity is a major factor. Don't get me wrong it is far from irrelevant but even if you're confident you win conventionally nukes will always be a much more significant deterrent. Russia would be a perfect example of that.

[Scandinavia21]

Full Nation Name: The Kingdom of Scandinavia
Head of Government: Queen Anastasia the 3rd
Head of State: Prime Minister Kirsten Lystad
Are you a puppet? If so, who?: American Pere Housh
Name of Representative: Ambassador Thomas Lauger
Political Ideology of nation? (Communism, Capitalism, or Socialism?): Capitalism
What branch(es) would your nation like to be a part of?: All branches
Reasons for joining GENA (Stated)?: To gain allies
Reasons for joining GENA (Actual)?: To gain allies
Will you follow the rules?: Yes

[South Olpen]

China doesn't need parity with the whole of NATO (the UK and France do not add much to this, I might add), it just needs relative parity with the United States, which insofar as nuclear weapons are concerned, China is certainly close enough.

China is also a lot closer to parity in military strength with the United States, which is probably also a factor in deterrance.

If I'm not mistaken their arsenal is about 10% of what the US has.

I do question whether conventional parity is a major factor. Don't get me wrong it is far from irrelevant but even if you're confident you win conventionally nukes will always be a much more significant deterrent. Russia would be a perfect example of that.

Nukes are like human feet. You don't need 3,000+ to be concerned, just 3.

[New Roma Republic]

Nope, not ringing any bells

viewtopic.php?f=5&t=518193

This one. Remember our battle that got cut off?

Hmmm, that seems vaguely familiar

[Scandinavia21]

If I'm not mistaken their arsenal is about 10% of what the US has.

I do question whether conventional parity is a major factor. Don't get me wrong it is far from irrelevant but even if you're confident you win conventionally nukes will always be a much more significant deterrent. Russia would be a perfect example of that.

Nukes are like human feet. You don't need 3,000+ to be concerned, just 3.

Just look at North Korea.

[Phenyzia]

If I'm not mistaken their arsenal is about 10% of what the US has.

I do question whether conventional parity is a major factor. Don't get me wrong it is far from irrelevant but even if you're confident you win conventionally nukes will always be a much more significant deterrent. Russia would be a perfect example of that.

Nukes are like human feet. You don't need 3,000+ to be concerned, just 3.

Exactly. Which is why I'm so baffled some IFC members seem so eager to invade nuclear powers. I mean I'm all for a cold war and proxy conflicts, that stuff is fun but I see no way an actual proper hot war would make sense.

[The Military State of the Galapagos]

Decanonization is a way of saying you lost. When an entire ass coalition occupied my country did I just go, “nope decanonized sorry?”

True. Despite some slip-ups *hmm hmm overthrowing tens of soldiers with one post,* Galapagos was incredibly good during the occupation. I mean, I have a problem with pretending your country are all patriotic boys with no self-protectionist instinct that will give their lives like lemurs, but everyone does that during occupations.

I was still learning how to RP during the occupation as all of us where. Some of us grew and some of us may never change but I feel the occupation of the Galapagos was (at least for me) an important stepping stone in learning RP etiquette