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Postby Janpia » Sat May 21, 2022 11:25 am

Aursi wrote:
Mets Hayk wrote:
"Well, I've heard the contrary. According to some who will not be named, your nation has a rather BAD reputation when it comes to co-running things. I've seen what ULIBOR's become too; a shallow husk of its former self poisoned by both sides. And, if I'm not mistaken, you've previously helped?"

“I'd be pleasured if someone explained everything to me. And Aquaria was the one to illegally suspend Muqaddasia. We didn't fight before. So I don't see what we did wrong.”

"Shut with your lies. You wanted ULIBOR to merge. Unlike IHC, it wont! See the new GCN news? Theyve got interests already!"

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Postby Romanic Imperium » Sat May 21, 2022 11:27 am

Mets Hayk wrote:
Aursi wrote:Aquaria suspended muqaddasia using his OPness. Where Muqaddasia gave the idea and did a lot. I resigned in Protest. Otherwise I have no bad records about being Co-Founder in any other alliance. And I think I deserve Co-Founder because IHC is merging with IAD, an alliance of mine.

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"Well, I've heard the contrary. According to some who will not be named, your nation has a rather BAD reputation when it comes to co-running things. I've seen what ULIBOR's become too; a shallow husk of its former self poisoned by both sides. And, if I'm not mistaken, you've previously helped?"


Atalanta seeing the argument speaks up
"If I may. The nation of Aursi was rather disconnected from ULIBOR during its down fall"
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Postby Aursi » Sat May 21, 2022 12:10 pm

Janpia wrote:
Aursi wrote:“I'd be pleasured if someone explained everything to me. And Aquaria was the one to illegally suspend Muqaddasia. We didn't fight before. So I don't see what we did wrong.”

"Shut with your lies. You wanted ULIBOR to merge. Unlike IHC, it wont! See the new GCN news? Theyve got interests already!"

“I never shut up. One Military Officer once put a Gun on my Chest and said to shut up, I was unarmed. But I still didn't shut up. I got shot. We Aursians don't care about what you guys say. We are not lying. Yes, we wanted ULIBOR to merge, but did we want it for a bad cause?”
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Postby Aursi » Sat May 21, 2022 12:12 pm

Romanic Imperium wrote:
Mets Hayk wrote:
"Well, I've heard the contrary. According to some who will not be named, your nation has a rather BAD reputation when it comes to co-running things. I've seen what ULIBOR's become too; a shallow husk of its former self poisoned by both sides. And, if I'm not mistaken, you've previously helped?"


Atalanta seeing the argument speaks up
"If I may. The nation of Aursi was rather disconnected from ULIBOR during its down fall"

“We were not disconnected. But ULIBOR's downfall was caused by infighting. Which is being done by Janpia. He's just trying to start a Fight. Just Vote. If we have to argue, we can do it in a seperate meeting.”
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Xuanzhang
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Founded: May 16, 2022
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Postby Xuanzhang » Sat May 21, 2022 12:23 pm

Fu Ling had anticipated appointment to an organization dedicated to peacekeeping and international security. The Xuanzhang government, eager to take a role in the international community had sought membership to take a place in the community of nations as well as give experience to its military. Yet, all that Ling was seeing was squabbling over alliance bloc grievances. This made Representative Fu deeply uncomfortable. She stood, speaking loudly over the assembled delegates, saying, "Excuse me, can we please have order? The charter explicitly states that the IHC is not a place for alliance related squabbling. Please, by all means, allow myself to be made aware of the grievances as we are unfamiliar and as a neutral party may arbitrate, but otherwise take this to your respective diplomatic institutions."
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Postby Aursi » Sat May 21, 2022 12:30 pm

Xuanzhang wrote:Fu Ling had anticipated appointment to an organization dedicated to peacekeeping and international security. The Xuanzhang government, eager to take a role in the international community had sought membership to take a place in the community of nations as well as give experience to its military. Yet, all that Ling was seeing was squabbling over alliance bloc grievances. This made Representative Fu deeply uncomfortable. She stood, speaking loudly over the assembled delegates, saying, "Excuse me, can we please have order? The charter explicitly states that the IHC is not a place for alliance related squabbling. Please, by all means, allow myself to be made aware of the grievances as we are unfamiliar and as a neutral party may arbitrate, but otherwise take this to your respective diplomatic institutions."

“Exactly! This is the thing Janpian Diplomats don't understand.”
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Mets Hayk
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Postby Mets Hayk » Sat May 21, 2022 12:36 pm

Xuanzhang wrote:Fu Ling had anticipated appointment to an organization dedicated to peacekeeping and international security. The Xuanzhang government, eager to take a role in the international community had sought membership to take a place in the community of nations as well as give experience to its military. Yet, all that Ling was seeing was squabbling over alliance bloc grievances. This made Representative Fu deeply uncomfortable. She stood, speaking loudly over the assembled delegates, saying, "Excuse me, can we please have order? The charter explicitly states that the IHC is not a place for alliance related squabbling. Please, by all means, allow myself to be made aware of the grievances as we are unfamiliar and as a neutral party may arbitrate, but otherwise take this to your respective diplomatic institutions."


"Agreed. Friends, please, this is a place of peace! Now, back to the matters at hand; more specifically the humanitarian crisis that is the on-going conflict in Muqaddasia...not whatever, and excuse my language, bullshit you two are trying to start. So please, just keep it civil. We don't need the IHC collapsing in these...troubling times."
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Xuanzhang
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Postby Xuanzhang » Sat May 21, 2022 12:39 pm

Mets Hayk wrote:"Agreed. Friends, please, this is a place of peace! Now, back to the matters at hand; more specifically the humanitarian crisis that is the on-going conflict in Muqaddasia...not whatever, and excuse my language, bullshit you two are trying to start. So please, just keep it civil. We don't need the IHC collapsing in these...troubling times."


Ling bowed and thanked Mr. Saven. She then asked, "That said, the political atmosphere is relevant to our future operations. Would this delegation be willing to explain the basics of the seemingly numerous conflicts these alliances are waging?"
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Postby Mets Hayk » Sat May 21, 2022 12:46 pm

Xuanzhang wrote:
Mets Hayk wrote:"Agreed. Friends, please, this is a place of peace! Now, back to the matters at hand; more specifically the humanitarian crisis that is the on-going conflict in Muqaddasia...not whatever, and excuse my language, bullshit you two are trying to start. So please, just keep it civil. We don't need the IHC collapsing in these...troubling times."


Ling bowed and thanked Mr. Saven. She then asked, "That said, the political atmosphere is relevant to our future operations. Would this delegation be willing to explain the basics of the seemingly numerous conflicts these alliances are waging?"


"It all started a while ago...or so I'm told. Military operations in the Galapagos, countless civil wars, and who can forget not ONE, but TWO wars that continue to this day, one in Hidrandia and the aforementioned one in Muqaddasia? The KTO wages war on the GCN, and the GCN wages war on the KTO. It's a never-ending spew of geopolitical bullshit...you see, these two alliances don't have good records when it comes to preserving peace.

ULIBOR was supposed to, you know, help this. Something that could unite both the KTO and GCN together. And then along came talks of merges, and then came its downfall. And now, ULIBOR will go down in history books as a failure. But, I have high hopes that the IHC will work. I pray and pray that it'll at least help ease the world into peace. That's the glory of neutrality; you know?"
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Xuanzhang
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Postby Xuanzhang » Sat May 21, 2022 1:17 pm

Fu nodded and thanked Mr. Saven for his explanation. She then asked, “So in the Council Proposals, it appears that an intervention in Muqqdasia has been ratified. Should we begin discussing what form that will take?”
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Postby Southeast Marajarbia » Sat May 21, 2022 1:19 pm

Mets Hayk wrote:
Xuanzhang wrote:
Ling bowed and thanked Mr. Saven. She then asked, "That said, the political atmosphere is relevant to our future operations. Would this delegation be willing to explain the basics of the seemingly numerous conflicts these alliances are waging?"


"It all started a while ago...or so I'm told. Military operations in the Galapagos, countless civil wars, and who can forget not ONE, but TWO wars that continue to this day, one in Hidrandia and the aforementioned one in Muqaddasia? The KTO wages war on the GCN, and the GCN wages war on the KTO. It's a never-ending spew of geopolitical bullshit...you see, these two alliances don't have good records when it comes to preserving peace.

ULIBOR was supposed to, you know, help this. Something that could unite both the KTO and GCN together. And then along came talks of merges, and then came its downfall. And now, ULIBOR will go down in history books as a failure. But, I have high hopes that the IHC will work. I pray and pray that it'll at least help ease the world into peace. That's the glory of neutrality; you know?"


"Time will have to tell" said a random, approaching voice as the doors opened. As he approached his seat, Marajarbian representative Jacob Smith started to speak:

"Time and time again, the same things keep on happening. The GCN and KTO are rivals, through and through, and while many peace attempts have been made unsuccessfully, this genuinely seems like it might work. However, here is the thing. The Janpians here are responsible. All the death, destruction, and chaos their KTO has caused pursuing their goal of complete and total destruction of GCN is proof of that. But here is another, more important thing. Both alliances have redefined the natural order of international affairs in this, how do you put it, political atmosphere of things. We are in Civil War Season, which basically means that new alliances rise while old ones die, and those that rise become not only mighty, but extremely influential. So, to sum it up, if peace between both as well as succeeding ULIBOR is in fact the IHC's goals, then it ought to be prepared to deal with the hardship that is being the third faction in global geopolitical matters."
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Postby Mets Hayk » Sat May 21, 2022 1:33 pm

Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
Mets Hayk wrote:
"It all started a while ago...or so I'm told. Military operations in the Galapagos, countless civil wars, and who can forget not ONE, but TWO wars that continue to this day, one in Hidrandia and the aforementioned one in Muqaddasia? The KTO wages war on the GCN, and the GCN wages war on the KTO. It's a never-ending spew of geopolitical bullshit...you see, these two alliances don't have good records when it comes to preserving peace.

ULIBOR was supposed to, you know, help this. Something that could unite both the KTO and GCN together. And then along came talks of merges, and then came its downfall. And now, ULIBOR will go down in history books as a failure. But, I have high hopes that the IHC will work. I pray and pray that it'll at least help ease the world into peace. That's the glory of neutrality; you know?"


"Time will have to tell" said a random, approaching voice as the doors opened. As he approached his seat, Marajarbian representative Jacob Smith started to speak:

"Time and time again, the same things keep on happening. The GCN and KTO are rivals, through and through, and while many peace attempts have been made unsuccessfully, this genuinely seems like it might work. However, here is the thing. The Janpians here are responsible. All the death, destruction, and chaos their KTO has caused pursuing their goal of complete and total destruction of GCN is proof of that. But here is another, more important thing. Both alliances have redefined the natural order of international affairs in this, how do you put it, political atmosphere of things. We are in Civil War Season, which basically means that new alliances rise while old ones die, and those that rise become not only mighty, but extremely influential. So, to sum it up, if peace between both as well as succeeding ULIBOR is in fact the IHC's goals, then it ought to be prepared to deal with the hardship that is being the third faction in global geopolitical matters."


"Ah, I was wondering when you'd arrive, Mister Smith. Those hardships you speak of may already be manifesting, I'm afraid; especially between Janpia and Aursi. The latter of which, if I recall correctly, is your ally? Nonetheless; as did the initial noble cause of the now-doomed ULIBOR, I am, no, WE are, willing to take up the torch and lead the world to state of peaceful coexistence. Forget the rivalries, forget the wars, Mister Smith. Times are changing; and so is the goddamn world. Were we to continue at this rate with these new ultra-militarized alliances, hell, there might not be much left to care about. Point and case: Muqaddasia's war with Janpia.

I fear that this war will only spiral into something greater; something that would break your little cold war and instigate something even worse; the threat of a global war. The world engulfed in flames as the powerful take order. That is why WE MUST remain neutral; lest we upset the balance even more."
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Postby Coliantia » Sat May 21, 2022 1:38 pm

Xuanzhang wrote:Fu nodded and thanked Mr. Saven for his explanation. She then asked, “So in the Council Proposals, it appears that an intervention in Muqqdasia has been ratified. Should we begin discussing what form that will take?”

Foreign Minister Palenko said, "Our country is not well-equipped for military interventions. As such, we would, instead, be sending food and aid to victimized people of the war, like rice, corn, first aid kits, and other medical equipment."
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Postby Southeast Marajarbia » Sat May 21, 2022 1:39 pm

Mets Hayk wrote:
Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
"Time will have to tell" said a random, approaching voice as the doors opened. As he approached his seat, Marajarbian representative Jacob Smith started to speak:

"Time and time again, the same things keep on happening. The GCN and KTO are rivals, through and through, and while many peace attempts have been made unsuccessfully, this genuinely seems like it might work. However, here is the thing. The Janpians here are responsible. All the death, destruction, and chaos their KTO has caused pursuing their goal of complete and total destruction of GCN is proof of that. But here is another, more important thing. Both alliances have redefined the natural order of international affairs in this, how do you put it, political atmosphere of things. We are in Civil War Season, which basically means that new alliances rise while old ones die, and those that rise become not only mighty, but extremely influential. So, to sum it up, if peace between both as well as succeeding ULIBOR is in fact the IHC's goals, then it ought to be prepared to deal with the hardship that is being the third faction in global geopolitical matters."


"Ah, I was wondering when you'd arrive, Mister Smith. Those hardships you speak of may already be manifesting, I'm afraid; especially between Janpia and Aursi. The latter of which, if I recall correctly, is your ally? Nonetheless; as did the initial noble cause of the now-doomed ULIBOR, I am, no, WE are, willing to take up the torch and lead the world to state of peaceful coexistence. Forget the rivalries, forget the wars, Mister Smith. Times are changing; and so is the goddamn world. Were we to continue at this rate with these new ultra-militarized alliances, hell, there might not be much left to care about. Point and case: Muqaddasia's war with Janpia.

I fear that this war will only spiral into something greater; something that would break your little cold war and instigate something even worse; the threat of a global war. The world engulfed in flames as the powerful take order. That is why WE MUST remain neutral; lest we upset the balance even more."



Jacob Smith: “That’s why I propose a solution to avoid the next big World War. The actions of the Janpians and their allies are quite obviously the problem, with their aggressive warmongering, no? So, IHC as the third faction kicks the KTO out of Muqaddasi soil. This might just so happen to be the only solution, as who knows what will actually happen if this current conflict starts going hot.”
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Postby Mets Hayk » Sat May 21, 2022 1:46 pm

Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
Mets Hayk wrote:
"Ah, I was wondering when you'd arrive, Mister Smith. Those hardships you speak of may already be manifesting, I'm afraid; especially between Janpia and Aursi. The latter of which, if I recall correctly, is your ally? Nonetheless; as did the initial noble cause of the now-doomed ULIBOR, I am, no, WE are, willing to take up the torch and lead the world to state of peaceful coexistence. Forget the rivalries, forget the wars, Mister Smith. Times are changing; and so is the goddamn world. Were we to continue at this rate with these new ultra-militarized alliances, hell, there might not be much left to care about. Point and case: Muqaddasia's war with Janpia.

I fear that this war will only spiral into something greater; something that would break your little cold war and instigate something even worse; the threat of a global war. The world engulfed in flames as the powerful take order. That is why WE MUST remain neutral; lest we upset the balance even more."



Jacob Smith: “That’s why I propose a solution to avoid the next big World War. The actions of the Janpians and their allies are quite obviously the problem, with their aggressive warmongering, no? So, IHC as the third faction kicks the KTO out of Muqaddasi soil. This might just so happen to be the only solution, as who knows what will actually happen if this current conflict starts going hot.”


"Indeed...but I fear reprisals from the KTO. Were we to stand against one of their founding members' actions, or another higher-up one; who's to say they wouldn't go after us next? Then again, that could maybe apply to the GCN...goddamnit, I hate all of this. It's like that goddamn red scare all those years ago. Listen, Mister Smith, as much as I may be appalled by some of the actions of some of the KTO's members; it doesn't mean we need to necessarily alienate them from our little group here. We ARE neutral, and WILL work with each other regardless of our allegiances.

I've heard that you've got quite the good bit of friends, at least your nation does. As such, I worry that your group will flood out the neutral, such as myself, and KTO members; as you, or the KTO, did to ULIBOR...so, I'd like to get things out of the way. I'm NOT merging with either of the two groups. If rumours of that bullshit spreads on your side; I want you to take action and disprove it, alright?"
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Postby Southeast Marajarbia » Sat May 21, 2022 1:51 pm

Mets Hayk wrote:
Southeast Marajarbia wrote:

Jacob Smith: “That’s why I propose a solution to avoid the next big World War. The actions of the Janpians and their allies are quite obviously the problem, with their aggressive warmongering, no? So, IHC as the third faction kicks the KTO out of Muqaddasi soil. This might just so happen to be the only solution, as who knows what will actually happen if this current conflict starts going hot.”


"Indeed...but I fear reprisals from the KTO. Were we to stand against one of their founding members' actions; who's to say they wouldn't go after us next? Then again, that could maybe apply to the GCN...goddamnit, I hate all of this. It's like that goddamn red scare all those years ago. Listen, Mister Smith, as much as I may be appalled by some of the actions of the KTO's members; it doesn't mean we need to necessarily alienate them from our little group here. We ARE neutral, and WILL work with each other regardless of our allegiances.

I've heard that you've got quite the good bit of friends, at least your nation does. As such, I worry that your group will flood out the neutral, such as myself, and KTO members; as you, or the KTO, did to ULIBOR...so, I'd like to get things out of the way. I'm NOT merging with either of the two groups. If rumours of that bullshit spreads on your side; I want you to take action and disprove it, alright?"


Jacob Smith: “That sounds like something that can be arranged. Anyways, I’d like to take a moment to tell you that there is somewhat of a peace agreement between the two factions that is in the works. KTO has some demands that are a little hard to follow, while GCN has demands that start off with the signing of a valuable Non-Aggression Pact, but on the behalf of GCN and world peace, I believe it is safe to say that in order to properly enforce aforementioned proposed NAP, that IHC become a third party that dishes out the punishments to any nation that violates it, regardless of any allegiance to any of the two alliances.

This could be something for the history books of the proposed NAP is successful.”
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Postby Mets Hayk » Sat May 21, 2022 1:59 pm

Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
Mets Hayk wrote:
"Indeed...but I fear reprisals from the KTO. Were we to stand against one of their founding members' actions; who's to say they wouldn't go after us next? Then again, that could maybe apply to the GCN...goddamnit, I hate all of this. It's like that goddamn red scare all those years ago. Listen, Mister Smith, as much as I may be appalled by some of the actions of the KTO's members; it doesn't mean we need to necessarily alienate them from our little group here. We ARE neutral, and WILL work with each other regardless of our allegiances.

I've heard that you've got quite the good bit of friends, at least your nation does. As such, I worry that your group will flood out the neutral, such as myself, and KTO members; as you, or the KTO, did to ULIBOR...so, I'd like to get things out of the way. I'm NOT merging with either of the two groups. If rumours of that bullshit spreads on your side; I want you to take action and disprove it, alright?"


Jacob Smith: “That sounds like something that can be arranged. Anyways, I’d like to take a moment to tell you that there is somewhat of a peace agreement between the two factions that is in the works. KTO has some demands that are a little hard to follow, while GCN has demands that start off with the signing of a valuable Non-Aggression Pact, but on the behalf of GCN and world peace, I believe it is safe to say that in order to properly enforce aforementioned proposed NAP, that IHC become a third party that dishes out the punishments to any nation that violates it, regardless of any allegiance to any of the two alliances.

This could be something for the history books of the proposed NAP is successful.”


"As much as I, and as much as most of Armenia, is all for non-aggression; were I to sign this hypothetical Non-Aggression Pact on behalf of YOUR side only it would violate the charter's policies on bipartisanism. How about this; we ALL, regardless of our alliances, come up with a pact that's accepted by a majority of our members. This, of course, would take time; but it'd all be worth it, no?

I have nothing against YOUR ideas, but then again we cannot favour only yours, nor can we only favour the KTO's, nor only the neutral nations'. If we want the IHC to succeed, we must all have a say."
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Postby Southeast Marajarbia » Sat May 21, 2022 2:35 pm

Mets Hayk wrote:
Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
Jacob Smith: “That sounds like something that can be arranged. Anyways, I’d like to take a moment to tell you that there is somewhat of a peace agreement between the two factions that is in the works. KTO has some demands that are a little hard to follow, while GCN has demands that start off with the signing of a valuable Non-Aggression Pact, but on the behalf of GCN and world peace, I believe it is safe to say that in order to properly enforce aforementioned proposed NAP, that IHC become a third party that dishes out the punishments to any nation that violates it, regardless of any allegiance to any of the two alliances.

This could be something for the history books of the proposed NAP is successful.”


"As much as I, and as much as most of Armenia, is all for non-aggression; were I to sign this hypothetical Non-Aggression Pact on behalf of YOUR side only it would violate the charter's policies on bipartisanism. How about this; we ALL, regardless of our alliances, come up with a pact that's accepted by a majority of our members. This, of course, would take time; but it'd all be worth it, no?

I have nothing against YOUR ideas, but then again we cannot favour only yours, nor can we only favour the KTO's, nor only the neutral nations'. If we want the IHC to succeed, we must all have a say."


Jacob Smith: “I completely agree. Very well, then the demands on part of GCN are simple. Not only must a NAP be signed, but the entire KTO has to pay back Muqaddasia for damages, and the IHC serves as the neutral third party that punishes anyone who so much as violates the NAP. These are made from what you have told me.” he says as he points towards the Armenian representative.
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Postby Mets Hayk » Sat May 21, 2022 2:44 pm

Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
Mets Hayk wrote:
"As much as I, and as much as most of Armenia, is all for non-aggression; were I to sign this hypothetical Non-Aggression Pact on behalf of YOUR side only it would violate the charter's policies on bipartisanism. How about this; we ALL, regardless of our alliances, come up with a pact that's accepted by a majority of our members. This, of course, would take time; but it'd all be worth it, no?

I have nothing against YOUR ideas, but then again we cannot favour only yours, nor can we only favour the KTO's, nor only the neutral nations'. If we want the IHC to succeed, we must all have a say."


Jacob Smith: “I completely agree. Very well, then the demands on part of GCN are simple. Not only must a NAP be signed, but the entire KTO has to pay back Muqaddasia for damages, and the IHC serves as the neutral third party that punishes anyone who so much as violates the NAP. These are made from what you have told me.” he says as he points towards the Armenian representative.


"I think you may have misunderstood me...we're not going to base our entire goddamn alliance on 'punishing', we also want to, you know, play host to fair debates to ALL nations. For we are a place for diplomacy; not warmongering like the ULIBOR. Hence why we are NEUTRAL. Also, again, that seems OVERWHELMINGLY unfair to our friends in the KTO. Were this war to be resolved; it'd be ideally without territory loss, yet would of course bring about some war-time reparations. From who? Well, I've got two in mind: from Janpia and Aquaria, though these reparations won't be as much as you're expecting. We're running a joint-fund too, and I've been stockpiling enough money for relief funds; meaning we too would help rebuild Muqaddasia.

Again, the NAP must be approved of by a majority of us. Your sole demands are not of the highest priority at the moment."
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Postby Southeast Marajarbia » Sat May 21, 2022 2:52 pm

Mets Hayk wrote:
Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
Jacob Smith: “I completely agree. Very well, then the demands on part of GCN are simple. Not only must a NAP be signed, but the entire KTO has to pay back Muqaddasia for damages, and the IHC serves as the neutral third party that punishes anyone who so much as violates the NAP. These are made from what you have told me.” he says as he points towards the Armenian representative.


"I think you may have misunderstood me...we're not going to base our entire goddamn alliance on 'punishing', we also want to, you know, play host to fair debates to ALL nations. For we are a place for diplomacy; not warmongering like the ULIBOR. Hence why we are NEUTRAL. Also, again, that seems OVERWHELMINGLY unfair to our friends in the KTO. Were this war to be resolved; it'd be ideally without territory loss, yet would of course bring about some war-time reparations. From who? Well, I've got two in mind: from Janpia and Aquaria, though these reparations won't be as much as you're expecting. We're running a joint-fund too, and I've been stockpiling enough money for relief funds; meaning we too would help rebuild Muqaddasia.

Again, the NAP must be approved of by a majority of us. Your sole demands are not of the highest priority at the moment."


Jacob Smith: "I see. There are things that will have to be resolved without the complete and total usage of IHC in that case, and that is understandable. Additionally, it's not only the Janpians and Aquarians that have accumulated Cold War debt, not even Muqaddasia nor the Marajarbian Federation. In fact, it's not just rebuilding Muqaddasia that's an ultimate priority, seeing as how they are pretty much the world's capital for energy-based resources, it's making sure that those who further pursued conflict over peace are punished and move on from this. While IHC won't be the one doing the punishing, it's another hardship fixing what needs to be fixed. Not only rebuilding Muqaddasia, but Hidrandia, and any other nation that any of the two sides have fought in. Without a functional, uncorrupt court, there's no way to try the Janpians responsible for aggressive actions, nor other war criminals from the GCN's side. It's not something that only the IHC can fulfill."
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Postby Mets Hayk » Sat May 21, 2022 2:58 pm

Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
Mets Hayk wrote:
"I think you may have misunderstood me...we're not going to base our entire goddamn alliance on 'punishing', we also want to, you know, play host to fair debates to ALL nations. For we are a place for diplomacy; not warmongering like the ULIBOR. Hence why we are NEUTRAL. Also, again, that seems OVERWHELMINGLY unfair to our friends in the KTO. Were this war to be resolved; it'd be ideally without territory loss, yet would of course bring about some war-time reparations. From who? Well, I've got two in mind: from Janpia and Aquaria, though these reparations won't be as much as you're expecting. We're running a joint-fund too, and I've been stockpiling enough money for relief funds; meaning we too would help rebuild Muqaddasia.

Again, the NAP must be approved of by a majority of us. Your sole demands are not of the highest priority at the moment."


Jacob Smith: "I see. There are things that will have to be resolved without the complete and total usage of IHC in that case, and that is understandable. Additionally, it's not only the Janpians and Aquarians that have accumulated Cold War debt, not even Muqaddasia nor the Marajarbian Federation. In fact, it's not just rebuilding Muqaddasia that's an ultimate priority, seeing as how they are pretty much the world's capital for energy-based resources, it's making sure that those who further pursued conflict over peace are punished and move on from this. While IHC won't be the one doing the punishing, it's another hardship fixing what needs to be fixed. Not only rebuilding Muqaddasia, but Hidrandia, and any other nation that any of the two sides have fought in. Without a functional, uncorrupt court, there's no way to try the Janpians responsible for aggressive actions, nor other war criminals from the GCN's side. It's not something that only the IHC can fulfill."


"I hope this doesn't, you know, detract from your view on us. At the very most, we shall eject nations that have been found guilty of committing crimes against humanity whilst operating under our banner. These expulsions of course, unlike the KTO, shall be permanent. Perhaps we can put these confirmed criminals on trial in a potential bipartisan criminal court in the coming future?"
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Postby Southeast Marajarbia » Sat May 21, 2022 3:08 pm

Mets Hayk wrote:
Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
Jacob Smith: "I see. There are things that will have to be resolved without the complete and total usage of IHC in that case, and that is understandable. Additionally, it's not only the Janpians and Aquarians that have accumulated Cold War debt, not even Muqaddasia nor the Marajarbian Federation. In fact, it's not just rebuilding Muqaddasia that's an ultimate priority, seeing as how they are pretty much the world's capital for energy-based resources, it's making sure that those who further pursued conflict over peace are punished and move on from this. While IHC won't be the one doing the punishing, it's another hardship fixing what needs to be fixed. Not only rebuilding Muqaddasia, but Hidrandia, and any other nation that any of the two sides have fought in. Without a functional, uncorrupt court, there's no way to try the Janpians responsible for aggressive actions, nor other war criminals from the GCN's side. It's not something that only the IHC can fulfill."


"I hope this doesn't, you know, detract from your view on us. At the very most, we shall eject nations that have been found guilty of committing crimes against humanity whilst operating under our banner. These expulsions of course, unlike the KTO, shall be permanent. Perhaps we can put these confirmed criminals on trial in a potential bipartisan criminal court in the coming future?"


Jacob Smith: “This doesn’t quite change the views that the Marajarbian Government has on this alliance. Emperor Jackson himself actually sees this as a more successful, uncorrupt spiritual successor to ULIBOR. I will have to discuss the possibility of a bi-partisan court and the like with my superiors in the Marajarbian Government.”
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Postby Mets Hayk » Sat May 21, 2022 3:10 pm

Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
Mets Hayk wrote:
"I hope this doesn't, you know, detract from your view on us. At the very most, we shall eject nations that have been found guilty of committing crimes against humanity whilst operating under our banner. These expulsions of course, unlike the KTO, shall be permanent. Perhaps we can put these confirmed criminals on trial in a potential bipartisan criminal court in the coming future?"


Jacob Smith: “This doesn’t quite change the views that the Marajarbian Government has on this alliance. Emperor Jackson himself actually sees this as a more successful, uncorrupt spiritual successor to ULIBOR. I will have to discuss the possibility of a bi-partisan court and the like with my superiors in the Marajarbian Government.”


"I see...well then, that's quite a relief."
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Postby Southeast Marajarbia » Sat May 21, 2022 3:25 pm

Mets Hayk wrote:
Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
Jacob Smith: “This doesn’t quite change the views that the Marajarbian Government has on this alliance. Emperor Jackson himself actually sees this as a more successful, uncorrupt spiritual successor to ULIBOR. I will have to discuss the possibility of a bi-partisan court and the like with my superiors in the Marajarbian Government.”


"I see...well then, that's quite a relief."


Jacob Smith: “That being said, in order to ensure that this alliance lasts long, some things have to be defined. This includes, but aren’t limited to having a diverse agenda, a unifying legal document such as a charter or constitution, and how leadership is chosen. Those would make this more successful than ULIBOR. This could have the potential to be the next ICDN-esque alliance, even.”
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Postby Mets Hayk » Sat May 21, 2022 3:31 pm

Southeast Marajarbia wrote:
Mets Hayk wrote:
"I see...well then, that's quite a relief."


Jacob Smith: “That being said, in order to ensure that this alliance lasts long, some things have to be defined. This includes, but aren’t limited to having a diverse agenda, a unifying legal document such as a charter or constitution, and how leadership is chosen. Those would make this more successful than ULIBOR. This could have the potential to be the next ICDN-esque alliance, even.”


"We've already got a charter; and we've appointed a monthly election system. Albeit, the former more or less focuses on basic laws. As for the latter; representatives are able to run for three terms, each lasting, as the 'monthly' part suggests, a month. As of now, actually, for a bit, the position of president will be held by me. After a few months are so; perhaps earlier, as the IHC exits its infancy, we'll think of allowing a presidential election."
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